From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #467 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, October 26 2002 Volume 07 : Number 467 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] SHA [shawn e williams ] [EDA] new music [shawn e williams ] [EDA] Serve the Ego/techno stations [shawn e williams ] [EDA] NJC: speaking of Lilith Fair... ["Amy Emerman" ] Re: [EDA] What's Going On In The Music Business? ["jack velte" Subject: [EDA] SHA i finally heard "Sweet Home Alabama!!" I don't really like the chorus, but how she sings the verses is awesome!! i like the instrumentation in it, but they should have left it original. love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:48:50 -0400 From: shawn e williams Subject: [EDA] new music sorry, my keyboard was broken so I didn't get to say what I think about her jazz/rnb.. I think it's awesome that she's trying new stuff, but I just hope that she doesn't do stuff that sounds like "the other woman" or " i won't walk away." i don't like the way she sings the verses on "IWWA." and i don't really like the way she sings "tow," but that's just my opinion. i wish they would release "lmjlma" or "ste" b4 she puts out a new cd. love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:31:39 -0400 From: shawn e williams Subject: [EDA] Serve the Ego/techno stations that's so awesome about Serve the Ego being #1!!! But it saddens me that they don't release it as a single to radio, this is really one of her best songs ever, and like someone else said it is a very sexy song. ha ha. also, is there such thing as a techno radio station? maybe they will play "STE." love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 22:26:17 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [EDA] lilith fair Several things. 1. I don't think that Sarah McLachlan was annoyed at Jewel for being on the cover of Time. I think she was annoyed that the doofaces over at Time Magazine put Jewel on the cover of the North American version of the magazine (Sarah was on the cover of the Canadian version) when it was Sarah's baby and Jewel wasn't at every show. I don't think she had any hard feelings at Jewel personally. It was just that Sarah probably felt like she worked so hard to organize Lilith and why did they put Jewel on the cover (maybe the execs thought a sexy young blonde would sell more magazines...who knows?) I might be annoyed too if I were Sarah, but not at Jewel...at the mag. 2. I think LIlith Fair was very cool, and it broke ground for women in the music industry. Women have always been instrumental in music, and that's nothing new. But the music industry is extremely sexist and still sucks for women. Sarah helped to break the glass ceiling by promoting an all-female line-up, which I personally have absolutely no problem with. I also think it gave many lesser known women performers like Patty Griffin and others the opportunity to be seen and heard by new audience members who might not have otherwise seen them. 3. For the person who mentioned that they'd love to see JEwel, Patty Griffin and the Dixie Chicks at Lilith, I know they all did play Lilith Fair dates, although I don't think they were all at the same concert. I thought Lilith had excellent lineups, and many of their lesser known acts were really good, too. I found it very empowering, even though "women in music" is certainly nothing new! But to be selling out the large venues and and kicking major booty...that talks to the music industry. It helped them realize that people want to hear women musicians and there is a huge market out there for them, which Jewel has certainly benefited from. Of course, I also respect that Jewel would probably want to be recognized as an artist first and foremost, regardless of what chromosomes she has. I think what Sarah did was use her influence to do something positive for all women in music, and that deserves credit. Not a Nobel Prize necessarily, but certainly credit for being such an awesome woman, and so supportive of her sisters in music. _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:23:36 +0000 From: "Amy Emerman" Subject: [EDA] NJC: speaking of Lilith Fair... If you are in the NYC area, I just organized a concert of independent women female singer/songwriters in the NYC area of which I am one. This is my first gig in awhile after a self-imposed hiatus, but I love singing and want to keep it up on some level (not just with the kids I work with). So, if you live in the NYC area and want to see a diverse group of indie artists (some of whom are full time indie musicans), come and check out this gig at Bar B on November 27th. I'm playing from 8-8:30. Here's the info: Here's the lineup: 7 Donna Long 7:30 Christina Ward 8 Amy Emerman 8:30 Julia Brown 9 Dani Linnetz 9:30 Steph Furness 10 Carolann Solebello 10:30 Rebecca Jensen An Evening of Indiegrrl Music Wed. 11/27, 7-11pm Bar B 188 Allen Street, NYC (between Houston & Stanton) Directions: Take the F train to 2nd ave., when you come out, you'll be on the corner of Allen and Houston,..Just cross Allen street and voila, you're there! It's on Allen Street, right next door to the Living Room. _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 19:03:18 -0700 From: "jack velte" Subject: Re: [EDA] What's Going On In The Music Business? Last night's BBC radio 2 documentary featuring Jewel was available online for a week at the following link... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/rpms/musicseries.rpm A summary of the show... "Paul Gambaccini investigates what's happening in different musical genres on both sides of the Atlantic - pop, rock, R n B, country, and also takes a look at the state of the music business. Partial Transcript: What's going on with singer song writers with Paul Gambaccini Don't hide away. Like an ocean that you can't see, but you can smell in the sound of waves crash down. I am no superman. I have no reasons for you. I am no hero, ah, that's for sure, but I do know one thing, is where you are, is where I belong. I do know, where you go, is where I wanna be. Where are you going? Paul: _Where are you Going_, by the Dave Mathews band, is emblematic of the challenges facing the record business. That track, from their album _Busted Stuff_, were available for free on the Internet before the LP came out in stores. It's just one of the problems faced by the music business which now confronts international piracy to a degree not known before It faces declines in album sales in almost every country. And it's the collapse of the American singles market that is confusing chart followers around the world. The record industry is also being besieged by artists themselves. The artists coalition led by Don Henley and Sheryl Crow is bringing up important issues such as length of contracts and ownership of master recordings. Beth Nelson Chapman is only one of the artists that realizes. Beth Nelson Chapman: It's going through a huge transition right now. We forget, there was a time, when tin pan alley was making the transition, that when sheet music was sold, that's the only way you learned a song. Suddenly there was radio. We've been here before. Hopefully people keep talking to each other and being reasonable. What's a little frightening to me right now is there is an entire generation of young people that they don't have the experience of going and buying a record I was talking to someone if you make an example if you take a basically law abiding person and you say, you have half an hour to go into the store and take anything you want. You'd be stealing, but would you do it? That sense of what's right isn't getting through to an entire generation. They just assume it's theirs to own, but somebody made it. Beth Nelson Chapman: [world of hurt] Day one, god smiled, gave us all the wisdom of a new born child. But by the time we take our first step, we've already begun to forget what the heart knows, what the heart sees, we're just as much forest as the trees. Every little seed trying to find where the light comes from. It's a world of hurt. Nothing works. It's a lonely little planet made of dust and dirt. Who'd ever think in the midst of all this, something as beautiful as love exists. Baby, I hold you, and you hold me and heaven doesn't seem like such a mystery. In a world of hurt, you make me feel so good. You make me feel so good. Paul Gambaccini: _World of Hurt_, by Beth Nelson Chapman. The Internet has been a source of hurt for the music business, which after all is run by middle aged persons who for the most part manage to accomidate computers into their lives but did not have an enthusiasm for them. They underestimated the extent to which young users would want to get their music from the web. So many record companies don't understand what the young fans want. And so many of the fans don't understand what the artists suffer as a consequence. Jewel understands. Jewel: It'd be great to have fans be educated about what publishing is, how artists make money, how hard it is to make money without publishing, how hard it is for artists that are song writers to make money. But, I think artists also need to take a long hard look at other ways to make money besides record sales. I don't know if we'll always be able to rely on a `record sale' as our income. Looking at other ways now, profiting of the icon, of the personality. Maybe looking at records as a promotional expense, I don't know. You know, I bought a copy of my record in Madrid for three dollars, burnt on a CD off a computer. And, the way we set up the industry, is that we base ourselves on record sales. Right now you can't tell how many records I'm selling, you know, I can't tell how many records I'm selling in Germany because they're guessing right now at least a half are bootlegged. So, all of your charts, all of your statistics, all of your projections for how much you're going to be able to spend on marketing the next month, you know, it throws a monkey wrench in all of it. Paul Gambaccini: So really, you can almost better tell how you're doing by who turns up for your gigs. Yeah, I've always just tried to rely on live shows. I've toured with Neal Young and Bob Dylan, one thing you learn from those guys is not to rely on radio, not to rely on record sales, rely on being a good live artist, remain really true to being a song writer, and hopefully you'll have a career that'll weather whatever fads are happening in fifty years. [standing still] Paul: We have had this artist's coalition with Don Henley and Sheryl Crow and some other people who are fighting for artist's rights in Washington. is there any of the items in their platform that get you going? Jewel: I went there for the artist's coalition several years ago. I spoke on the senate floor. There are lots of things I think are worthy on that platform. There are a lot of things that don't get talked about. I think there are a lot of things musicians aren't aware of, there are a lot of things in their contracts they have no idea about, what is recoup-able, what isn't, what are mechanicals, royalties, where and who and what is making the money. Musicians are not in a position to make money on the records. We're just not the position even though the whole industry is supposedly built around us. I'd love to see a lot of changes, but they're so engraved in tradition right now, that it's hard. Paul: Jewel, though young, is old enough to have had top ten singles that sold in large numbers. One change in the music business in America in the last couple of years is that record companies have virtually abandoned the single since they are not money makers except in the case of the biggest sellers, they've decided to stop issuing them. They only put out promotional CD singles to the radio stations. The class of 2002, including Michelle Branch, are doing without singles in the shops completely. Michelle Branch: I never put out a single and I probably never will. I remember when i was younger, and I'm only 19, I remember buying singles. I'm really not aware when that all started changing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:12:01 -0400 From: shawn e williams Subject: Re: [EDA] What's Going On In The Music Business? i agree w/ what Jewel said below!! it's all about the live shows and the artist theirself, and this is what makes Jewel so awesome!! Yeah, I've always just tried to rely on live shows. I've toured with Neal Young and Bob Dylan, one thing you learn from those guys is not to rely on radio, not to rely on record sales, rely on being a good live artist, remain really true to being a song writer, and hopefully you'll have a career that'll weather whatever fads are happening in fifty years. love ya, shawney the hippie angel ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 00:31:58 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: [EDA] J Card (CD Insert) Hosting Has anyone ever attempted to make a large collection of J-Card or CD Insert files on the web? I think disc covers etc are great to have, and I was just wondering if anyone had ever brought up trying to host a web page with lots of them... Does anyone have any links for j-cards a/o CD inserts? Lastly, I ordered some double-CD clear jewel cases with clear trays... I've got about 50 extra that I'd like to trade off for angelfood... posters, concerts, whatever... I'm up for a good ole concert-for-concert trade too. I've got quite a few new shows... You can check out my list at http://www.geocities.com/transcenda/angelfood.htm Thanks! James ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #467 ***************************