From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V7 #466 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, October 25 2002 Volume 07 : Number 466 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V7 #___ gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] RE:When did it stop being about the music? TOM H ["kevin maguire" <] [EDA] sarah mclachlan [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] Humphry's By The Bay VHS [GroovGerLC@aol.com] Re: [EDA] sarah mclachlan ["Tom H" ] [EDA] Serve The Ego (a.k.a. What universe is this?) ["Scott" ] [EDA] Lilith Fair ["Sarah Fennell" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:55:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "kevin maguire" Subject: [EDA] RE:When did it stop being about the music? TOM H Tom you said "And disliking any artist for a reason like that is pathetic. When did it stop being about the music? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 02:19:48 EDT From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] sarah mclachlan I heard at some point that Sarah was angry at Jewel over the whole time magazine "queen of lilith fair" article... Jewel said something about it in an interview when Spirit came out - she said she heard through something she read in Rolling Stone, but that she wasn't sure if it was true and didn't want to talk about it, or something like that. I doubt there'll be another Lilith Fair for a while. I read an interview with someone at Sarah McLachlan's record label, or perhaps her manager.. not sure which... he said that she wanted to tour properly on her own and not be restricted to a 40 minute "greatest hits" set every night like she was at Lilith Fair. Jewel said something about Lilith Fair that I think is very valid - she said it made her uncomfortable that everybody thought Lilith Fair "reinvented women in music"... she thinks that's disrespectful to so many of the female musicians of the past who did as much for women in music as anybody, in her opinion. I agree with that. Also, I don't think Lilith Fair itself was the cause of women being played more on the radio. I think it was a natural progression in the music industry, and Lilith Fair took advantage of it. If Lilith Fair had been mounted 2 or 3 years earlier it probably would've flopped. I'm not saying it was a bad thing.. but it doesn't deserve all the credit. Neither does Sarah McLachlan. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 04:53:29 EDT From: GroovGerLC@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Humphry's By The Bay VHS I have the 2002 Humphry's By The Bay live recording and am willing to make copies. It will cost 10 dollars for the tape and shipping. If anyone is intrested please email me. It is a great tape. Christel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:28:15 +0100 From: "Tom H" Subject: Re: [EDA] sarah mclachlan <> Of course Sarah doesn't deserve all the credit for the resurgence of women making real music. I doubt she's ever said anything of the sort as she seems pretty humble about it all in interviews I've read. What she *does* deserve credit for is writing one of the best albums of all time - Fumbling Towards Ecstasy. Someone said Kelly Clarkson'll be writing on her album (read: co-writing 3 or 4 tracks, Britney style). Let's wait and see if it is anywhere near the brilliance of FTE. I seriously doubt it. Seriously, I wouldn't expect Lilith to come back next year - Sarah will probably do her own tour after her new album's released... I could see it happening maybe in 04 or 05 when she's not so busy with her own promotion and when India's a bit older. Of course, Tara Maclean'll be back on the scene probably by then... So the wait is all the more worth it! Cheers, Tom. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:16:53 -0400 From: "Scott" Subject: [EDA] Serve The Ego (a.k.a. What universe is this?) What alternate universe am I living in? Jewel has a #1 smash club hit, but hasn't had an album or single on the mainstream charts for months? Weird. Cool as hell, but weird. I'm enjoying all the alternate routes that are being taken to get Jewel out there.. Sweet Home Alabama, the club mixes.. It's refreshing. <<***"SERVE THE EGO" UPDATE You heard it first! We just received news that the next Billboard "Hot Dance Music" chart will feature Jewel's remix single of "Serve The Ego" at number 1! This chart topping single is currently available as an Atlantic Records 12" vinyl two-record set, as well as a maxi-CD single.>> scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevan112 . scott@tanweb.com PICKING UP | A Syd Fansite -- [[ http://outofhabit.org/syd ]] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://scott.rocket-fish.org ] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:33:37 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: [EDA] FWD: JeweLink: October 25, 2002 Here is the latest issue of JeweLink, directly from Jewel's "people", if you want to get a copy of this directly as each issue comes out, you can sub- scribe to it by sending a blank email to join-jewelink@list.jeweljk.com ******************************************** JeweLink - The Official Jewel Communications List ******************************************** In this edition of JeweLink: ***"SERVE THE EGO" UPDATE ***JEWEL'S TORONTO CONCERT ON CBC ******************************************** ***"SERVE THE EGO" UPDATE You heard it first! We just received news that the next Billboard "Hot Dance Music" chart will feature Jewel's remix single of "Serve The Ego" at number 1! This chart topping single is currently available as an Atlantic Records 12" vinyl two-record set, as well as a maxi-CD single. ******************************************** ***JEWEL'S TORONTO CONCERT ON CBC Our Canadian friends might recall that when Jewel and her band hit Massey Hall in Toronto last June 28th, CBC radio was on hand to record the show for future broadcast. Segments of that concert are now scheduled to broadcast during CBC Radio One's transmission of "Definitely Not The Opera" on Saturday, November 23rd at 1:00 p.m. est. CBC Radio One is also available on ExpressVu and Starchoice Canadian satellite TV service. ******************************************** Now Playing: Lisa Sanders - "Isn't Life Fine" Lisa will be performing a small intimate show tomorrow night in Northampton, MA. I'll be there and I hope to see some of you! Details follow. -MrBB Lisa Sanders Saturday, October 26th Fire and Water Cafe 5 Old South Street Northampton, MA (413) 586-8336 7 p.m. You can listen to Lisa and learn more about her at our guest artist archive located on the "Favorites" page at www.jeweljk.com. ******************************************** Jewel concert information, radio and TV broadcast scheduling updates available 24 hours a day at: http://jeweljk.com/low/calendar.html ******************************************** - --- You can help a friend subscribe by having them send a blank email to join-jewelink@list.jeweljk.com To view selected back issues of JeweLink, please visit the JeweLink Archive at the www.jeweljk.com calendar page. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:10:49 +0100 From: "Sarah Fennell" Subject: [EDA] Lilith Fair Thought I'd come out of lurkerdom and post an article about Lilith fair/women in music. We're Lilith Fairless over here, but as long as Jewel, Patty Griffin and the Dixie Chicks were in there somewhere, I'd be happy :) Click here to read this story online: http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1025/p13s01-almp.html Headline: Rock on, sister Byline: Lynne Margolis Special to The Christian Science Monitor Date: 10/25/2002 If you think your neighborhood record-store chain has an unusually high selection of diva-type releases on its shelves this fall, or that your favorite radio station is airing more female voices than ever, welcome to the male-dominated music industry's latest discovery: It's OK to market multiple women artists at once. The Dixie Chicks, Avril Lavigne, Michelle Branch, Norah Jones, Pink, and India.Arie are just a few of the names that have been anchoring the upper reaches of record sales and airplay charts. In fact, 12 of Billboard's Top 20 songs this week feature women. These artists are being joined - or about to be - by Faith Hill, J. Lo, Christina Aguilera, Shania Twain, Alison Krauss, Missy Elliott, and several other women dropping new discs in time for holiday buying. And no one seems to be batting an eye - least of all consumers. "It's come to that, finally, that it doesn't matter any more," says John Artale, buyer for Galaxy Music Distributors in Pittsburgh. "As long as they have some individuality, as long as you can tell 'em apart, it's fine." Not too long ago, the music industry wasn't so sure Americans could tell one soprano from another. "Back when I was making my first records [12 years ago], men were the ones selling country records," says country singer/songwriter Kelly Willis. "Today it's completely the opposite. Women are selling way more records than men ever did." Ms. Willis remembers that radio stations refused to play two women artists in a row, and "there weren't a whole lot of women who were writing their own songs or being allowed to." It used to be even worse. Woodstock veteran Melanie, who has just released a new CD, recalls being told that if a woman got played on the radio, "they couldn't play another one for, like, six hours." The folk singer, who had a string of hits in the 1970s including "Brand New Key," admits that didn't even seem wrong to her then. "It was just the way it was," she says, "so you had to be good." While other genres haven't seen as dramatic a turnaround as country, there's no question that women are being celebrated this fall. Rolling Stone released its second-ever "Women in Rock" issue. This month's Vanity Fair music issue features nine of the hottest stars in the business - all women - surrounding a single guy: quintessential ladies' man Barry White. Exposure on radio airwaves and on MTV, VH1, BET, and other cable networks certainly has a lot to do with women's greater presence. Other causes range from a take-charge performer named Madonna, who had no interest in being managed by a male Svengali, to a little experiment called Lilith Fair. No back-to-back airplay was still the norm in 1997, when Canadian Sarah McLachlan organized the first concert festival featuring only female performers (or female-fronted bands). Lilith came at a time when women like McLachlan, Alanis Morissette, and Jewel dominated pop radio. Its phenomenal success - it actually set attendance records at some venues - - went a long way toward shaking up the status quo in the music industry. One of Lilith's strongest messages was that women can control their own careers, and more are doing just that. Teen singer-guitarist Michelle Branch lays it out in her online bio: "I'm not a fan of changing yourself for anything. With me, what you see is what you get." Newcomer Ms. Jade, the first woman signed to rapper Timbaland's Beat Club label, agrees. "Everybody knows exactly how I am. They can take it or leave it." But not all radio stations are tuned in to the trend. When it comes to rock, testosterone still rules. The only way a female gets heard is if she happens to be the drumming half of hot garage-rock duo the White Stripes. And some artists say that if they don't want to bare their midriffs while wailing about love - or, preferably, sex - the industry does not want to hear from them. As Rolling Stone magazine notes, "Rock radio won't even touch female artists, while the pop factory keeps churning out sound-alike clones, and ambitious musicians with something to say find themselves out in the cold." Neo-soul pioneer Meshell Ndegeocello feels the chill. "Because I don't want to write song after song about designer clothes, liquor, cars, and booty, I am deemed outside of the 'urban' demographic, i.e., my music isn't 'black enough' for MTV or BET or Clear Channel [radio] to convince Coke or Lincoln or McDonald's to buy some airtime. "Maybe if I was a little more '-er' - younger, cuter, lighter, thinner ... just maybe I'd get an opportunity or two more to be a bigger part of the popular-cultural machine." Rosemary Welsch, program director at Pittsburgh public radio station WYEP-FM, says, "There's some improvement, but I think the industry tries to make itself feel better by saying how much better it is." WYEP often provides the first or only airplay given to artists like Willis or Ndegeocello, who don't neatly fit into mainstream genres. Ms. Welsch notes, "Even though we play more women than most stations, it's still more heavily focused on men, and we'll still get the occasional complaint that we play too many women." Certain formats, such as adult contemporary, feature women because they're trying to grab well-to-do female listeners, she says. "But it's indicative of the industry that programmers don't think that men, and especially boys, are interested in hearing what women have to say unless it's a sexy song." A half-hour of MTV watching reinforces that point. Even Branch's new video with Carlos Santana for "The Game of Love" is filled with overt sexual imagery, though the two artists themselves don't participate in the caressing. But most artists say they have control over their songs and images, and many choose to market themselves as sex vixens. Singer/songwriter Julie Miller, whose songs have been covered by the Dixie Chicks, Lee Ann Womack, Brooks & Dunn, and Emmylou Harris, recalls dressing "like a hooker" in her bar-band days. "I was at that place in my life where I thought, 'This is cool that I look like this' and that it gave me some kind of power.... Now, when I see someone like that, I'm so embarrassed for them. It doesn't look cool or beautiful, it looks sad and pathetic." Still others fight it. Drummer Torry Castellano, aka Donna C. of punk band the Donnas, says, "It's kind of crazy when you're working with a photographer and they're, like, 'You know what would be really cool? If you guys all just sat around in your bras and we took pictures. Whaddya think?' And we're like, 'No. We think no.' And they don't get it." Bonnie Raitt, one of the first rock-era women who gained respect as an electric guitarist, says, "I've never listened to any record company.... They can never pick my material or comment on it. Luckily, I signed with people that respected me, and if they ever said anything about what I wore or what I sang, I would just say, 'It's not your place to tell me that.' But on the other hand ... because I wasn't accepting their advice, they penalized me by not promoting my records." This is still a reality for many artists of both sexes, though women are no longer prevented from having husbands or children, as rockabilly pioneer Lorrie Collins and her envelope-busting sisters sometimes were. Raitt also points out, "Especially in the Lilith era, there are many more women respected as musicians and on the charts ... in all kinds of music. But in terms of managers, executives, and editors and engineers ... there's still a Neanderthal level of acceptance in terms of positions of power." The few who do rise, she notes, "sometimes have the worst qualities of the more piggish men." Adds Castellano, "It's a really, really slow process." And sometimes, she finds, the best thing to do is stand up and fight. Like a man. Listen up: These women rock The following albums won't top the charts, but they're just as worthy, if not more so. Kelly Willis - Easy (Rykodisc): Willis, an affectation-free charmer, wraps her pure, plaintive voice around her own heartache songs and those of other well-chosen authors, including husband Bruce Robison and the late Kirsty MacColl, with backing by Vince Gill and other A-team Austinite/Nashvillians. Kim Richey - Rise (Lost Highway): Richey easily straddles pop and country while dipping into jazz and rock, but it's Richey's nuanced, crystalline vocals and her knack for inhabiting an aching lyric so completely - no matter how she sings it - that make "Rise" a quiet stunner. Shemekia Copeland - Talking to Strangers (Alligator): This young blues mama, daughter of the late Johnny "Clyde" Copeland, ain't foolin' when she belts out songs of desire and don't-mess-with-me attitude. Producer Dr. John contributes piano and keyboards, and Arthur Nielson squeezes out guitar licks so hot, he could be charged with arson. Karrin Allyson - In Blue (Concord Jazz): Though not a blues album per se, jazz singer Allyson's disc embraces the concept of blues. The colorations she brings to "The Meaning of the Blues" and 12 other tunes couldn't be further from Copeland's, which goes to show what a spectrum we could be experiencing if mainstream radio would let us. Meshell Ndegeocello - Cookie: The Anthropological Mix Tape (Maverick): A female Gil Scott-Heron who challenges the status quo in gender, racial, and other realms, Ndegeocello melds jazz, hip-hop, funk, soul, and poetry in masterly fashion. Neko Case - Black Listed (Bloodshot): Patsy Cline comparisons abound, but Case's torch and twang leanings, while owing heavily to tradition, still carry twinges of her punk-rock background. Sinead O'Connor - Sean-Nos Nua (Vanguard): O'Connor calls these Gaelic folk tunes "true soul music," and when she wraps her angelic voice around them, that's exactly how they sound. (c) Copyright 2002 The Christian Science Monitor. All rights reserved. Click here to email this story to a friend: http://www.csmonitor.com/cgi-bin/send-story?2002/1025/p13s01-almp.txt _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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