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Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh ["jake skyles" ] Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh ["jake skyles" ] [EDA] My "A Life Uncommon" DVD review [Paul Schreiber ] Re: [EDA] Half Playback ! [maggan81@ngo.as] Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) [Rasputina11@aol.com] Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) [Rasputina11@aol.com] [EDA] vh1fresh [Cember76@aol.com] Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) [GnG849@aol.com] Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh ["Sandy" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:13:18 -0400 From: "jake skyles" Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh OK it definatly counts all your votes you can vote as many times as you want. I startesd voting when that site first came up to vote for Jewel and It went up one percent everytime i voted. That was when there werent many votes. NOw there are a lot of votes probably in the thousands thats why it will take longer to go up a percentage, I went to the No Doubt board and they are doing the same thing we are, voting over and over again. So everyone keep voting. Jake >From: "Sandy" >To: >Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh >Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 15:58:56 -0400 > > > I don't think that's true. I voted for like 10 minutes straight > > consecutively and I got it to go up about 4%. I think it does work if > > you keep voting. > >No offense, but logically - do you think if you voted for 10 minutes >straight, it would only go up 4%? There aren't that many people on the >site >voting that it would take that long for it to go up... mostly likely the 4% >it went up in the time you were voting was from other EDA's who received >the >same email and got going and voting themselves.... I sat and clicked it >back and forth, for 3 minutes straight, and it only took me maybe 3 secs >each time to vote.... that's 60 votes in 3 minutes, and it did not go up >*at >all*... there just aren't that many people voting at the exact same time to >make 60 votes not move the percentage point... >so this actually just furthered my point...our votes obviously only count >as >one no matter how many times you do it, which isn't surprising, because >most >polls are set up with cookies so people can't screw with the *real* results >by voting multiple times. > >~ Sandy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:21:56 EDT From: DixieJewelAngel@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh Hey ya'll i just got done watching a movie and i "accidentaly" left my phone on the enter tab and it voted for Jewel over and over on fresh pick...and that was for like an hour..hehe, i think i'll leave my phone on the enter key again tonite on accident and go to bed..... *xx* ~The *Dixie* Angel~ ~*~mIcHeLe mAnDeViLLe~*~ Don't ever give away what you can't take back-Jewel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Listen to Jewel Break Me Here http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/emails/breakmefriend.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:42:01 EDT From: SullMa84@aol.com Subject: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 I think NO Doubt sold out. I loved thier album return of saturn even though it didn't do well. So what did they do? they make a cd of dancy-pop songs. SELL OUTS! Be like Jewel! Stick to what you are good at even if its not dancy-pop! Jewel forever! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:43:46 EDT From: SullMa84@aol.com Subject: [EDA] EDA Gathering 7-02: Milwaukee Summerfest Concert I am organizing an eda gathering before Jewel's show at summerfest in Milwaukee on july 02. If you are going to the show or want to help, e-mail me. 'll have the complete list of details when everything is all oraganized. Hope to see evryone there! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:35:35 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh > OK it definatly counts all your votes you can vote as many times as you > want. > I startesd voting when that site first came up to vote for Jewel and It went > up one percent everytime i voted. That was when there werent many votes. NOw > there are a lot of votes probably in the thousands thats why it will take > longer to go up a percentage, I went to the No Doubt board and they are > doing the same thing we are, voting over and over again. So everyone keep > voting. Yes, you started voting when the site first came up, when *everyone* one this list first got the email and starting voting, that's why it was going up a percent everytime, because so many people were voting at the same time. The reason they aren't going up now is because the same people are voting over and over again and it doesn't count. I did the same thing when we first got the email and I voted about 100 times in 3 minutes, then I counted to make sure 100 the next time I did it for 3 minutes.... it *never* went up... they don't want people messing with the results, it works on cookies, once you've voted, it won't count it again, at least for a certain period of time, probably 24 hours. ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:53:19 -0400 From: "jake skyles" Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh No actually I wrote the first email so when I was voting no one on this list were voting yet, this is when I got it up from 27% to about 70%. Then I sent the email to the list. Thats when a TON of people started voting including people on the NoDoubt board. It was back and forth between Jewel and NoDoubt winning for a long time. Trust me it counts all the votes. I don't know how y ou voted 100 times in 3 minuites unless you think holding down the enter key will work, wich it doesn't, I tried it at the very begining and I held it down for about a minuite and it still only went up one percent like it was only one vote. Maybee the cookies aren't enabled or maybee it lets you vote about 100 times a day, not sure. But I do know it will count all your votes at least up to about 50 cause thats about how many times i voted when I was getting her up 1% every time i voted. Jake >From: "Sandy" >To: >Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:35:35 -0400 > > > OK it definatly counts all your votes you can vote as many times as you > > want. > > I startesd voting when that site first came up to vote for Jewel and It >went > > up one percent everytime i voted. That was when there werent many votes. >NOw > > there are a lot of votes probably in the thousands thats why it will >take > > longer to go up a percentage, I went to the No Doubt board and they are > > doing the same thing we are, voting over and over again. So everyone >keep > > voting. > >Yes, you started voting when the site first came up, when *everyone* one >this list first got the email and starting voting, that's why it was going >up a percent everytime, because so many people were voting at the same >time. >The reason they aren't going up now is because the same people are voting >over and over again and it doesn't count. I did the same thing when we >first got the email and I voted about 100 times in 3 minutes, then I >counted >to make sure 100 the next time I did it for 3 minutes.... it *never* went >up... they don't want people messing with the results, it works on cookies, >once you've voted, it won't count it again, at least for a certain period >of >time, probably 24 hours. > >~ Sandy _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 02:55:42 -0400 From: "jake skyles" Subject: [EDA] one more thing about fresh Also the Sheryl Crow board got her to win three weeks in a row(the video retires after winning three weeks) by voting over and over. This is definatly proof that it works. Jake _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:15:25 -0700 From: Paul Schreiber Subject: [EDA] My "A Life Uncommon" DVD review I wanted to write this in January when I got the DVD, but somehow, it kept getting put off. Yesterday, I finally said "enough with the procrastination," sat down and rewatched the video, and took notes. Without further ado... Summary - ------- "A Life Uncommon" is an interesting, but incomplete, portrait of Jewel Kilcher's life and musical career. It could have been so much more than it is. The good - -------- Atz Kilcher, Jr.: Atz stole the show with his relaxed screen presence and honest and sincere commentary. I looked forward to his interview segments the most. Favourite quote: "You turn on the radio and it's crap, crap city." The picture quality was generally quite good, and even the home movie footage -- probably shot on 8mm -- was more than watchable. Steve Poltz's interview. Steve's a great storyteller. Too bad they didn't give him more airtime. Format - ------ ALU is very short. Sixty minutes isn't a lot of time. This wasn't a DVD so much as it was shovelware -- a video repackaged as a DVD. They didn't take advantage of the DVD format at all. This meant: - - no widescreen - - no subtitles - - no multiple camera angle scenes - - no foreign language voiceovers - - no "deleted scenes" - - the chapter titles are confusing, lack meaning and don't describe their contents There were so many opportunities to do well here. ALU could have included: - - all of Jewel's music videos -- WWSYS, YWMFM, FG, Hands - - still photos from the Kennerly and Rolston photo shoots - - Jewel's early Atlantic promo video -- oh, how I longed to see this It would have been nice if they showed the names of the interviewees more often. I lost track of all the record industry people. What's up with the scar business under her arm and the goofy post-production blurring of it? Content - ------- Missing in action: Jewel's father, Atz Kilcher, was shown once, but never interviewed. Neither was her brother, Nikos or her long-time friend Lee Greene. I'm sure they would have had a lot to contribute. There was very little in terms of one-on-one interviews with Jewel. There's virtually no mention of Interlochen, though it's alluded to at least once. And: there's no discussion of Jewel's musical style, how it's evolved -- from folk to pop to rock, nor her influences, her songwriting process or anything musical. I would have liked to have seen more about how Jewel got signed, what her deal with Atlantic is like, how her relationship with them has evolved, and so on. Lastly: the Vogue photo shoot. Why was it there? What was the purpose of this? It was never explained what was going on. I was expecting something more in-depth, perhaps along the lines of A&E's _Biography_. Instead, I saw a much more superficial look at Ms. Kilcher. Paul shad 96c / uw cs 2001 / mac activist / fumbler / eda / headliner / navy-souper fan of / sophie b. / steve poltz / habs / bills / 49ers / Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the squre holes. The ones who see things differently. They're not fond of rules, and they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glofiy or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them, because they change things. They push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who'll do it. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Apr 2002 08:22:56 -0000 From: maggan81@ngo.as Subject: Re: [EDA] Half Playback ! I didn't like it either! Could you see how "angry" Jewel was when the music was fading on the end? She didn't like it either. Maybe it was because the arena didn't have equipments for artists to play live with their instruments. Do you understand what I mean? It happens sometimes... */Marcus Ngo, Sweden On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:08:58 +0000 Francois Cartegnie wrote: >Well, I'm very dissapointed as I watched again the Dutch Edison awards Jewel >apparence... >Does anyone noticed the music was EXACTLY the same as on the album (including >what I would call 'guitar calls & answers')... >I did have a doubt, but none at the end of the song, when music fades out and >jewel stops singing then. > >So only vocals were live. No music. They were really playing 'unplugged' ! > >>:( > >Francois >Somewhere in the Hexagon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:01:42 EDT From: Rasputina11@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) No Doubt didn't sell out. They are better than ever! Return of Saturn good, but it was depressing. With Rock Steady they go back ot what makes them unique- a happy band. Gwen always says she's never been angst-ridden. Furthermore, they started out as a ska band, and with Rock Steady, took it to the next level by recording some of it in Jamaica, and using those reggae influences. And if you think Jewel hasn't changed... listen to all three of her albums. Each one is vastly different. ~Sasha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 10:37:07 EDT From: Rasputina11@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) Thanks Tanya! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:41:05 EDT From: Cember76@aol.com Subject: [EDA] vh1fresh jewel is at 39% no doubt is losing and d'angelo is at 61% come on people. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 12:38:14 -0400 From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] No Doubt on Fresh Picks on VH1 (NJC) I just saw No Doubt last night. They were amazing. I don't believe in selling out. Every artist has the right to try different things. Jewel has not sold out either BECAUSE she has three albums that are very different from eachother. The same goes for No Doubt. All five of their albums are very different. And it just proves that because the whole show was sold out and everyone knew their old songs as well as their new ones. Just my opinion. Love Megan. The smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:14:06 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] request Break Me on VH1 fresh > No actually I wrote the first email so when I was voting no one on this list > were voting yet, this is when I got it up from 27% to about 70%. That's funny, since I was sitting at my computer when you sent the email and received it right away, and went to vote, and she was only at 35%, not 70%, when I starting voting.... in fact, in your email you said she was 27% behind...so I'm guessing she was at 70% and No Doubt was at 97%....well hmm they don't equal 100% together... > Then I sent > the email to the list. Thats when a TON of people started voting including > people on the NoDoubt board. People could already being voting for No Doubt, right? As you said, you went there when the poll was first put up, I'm sure others were as well.... off course the votes are increasing quickly, 1 vote out of the first two at the time counts for 50% of the vote...the numbers are going to rise dramatically at the beginning.... it doesn't mean it's your multiple votes that are doing it. > It was back and forth between Jewel and NoDoubt > winning for a long time. Trust me it counts all the votes. I don't know how > y ou voted 100 times in 3 minuites unless you think holding down the enter > key will work, No, I didn't use the enter key, all I did was go back and forth in the browser, I have a mouse button on the side the clicks the browser back, and vote, it easily counted *at least* 100 votes of mine, right when you say you had her at 70%, but I'm sorry, I did it twice in a row only about 10 minutes apart, at the beginning when not many people were voting, and it did not move a percentage point at any time. > Maybee the cookies aren't enabled or maybee it lets you > vote about 100 times a day, not sure. But I do know it will count all your > votes at least up to about 50 cause thats about how many times i voted when > I was getting her up 1% every time i voted. or maybe it's because other people were voting at the same time....wait, no way, *not on a poll* would other people be voting! Sites *don't like people to screw around with polls by voting multiple times* because it means the results are accurate, and they want an accurate pick of the video, not some fan list spamming it up.... if you really feel like you're doing it...then go ahead and use your time voting thousands of times for her in one day... I just think it's rather unlikely your all your votes are counting. if it is working, all the luck too you.... I'm just sceptical. ~ Sandy ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V7 #159 ***************************