From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #686 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, December 12 2001 Volume 06 : Number 686 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: New Address for Carrie [Carrie the Midnight Angel ] Re: NJC [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA ["Sheila56" ] [EDA] NJC: Angel Games ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: new cd's I got today ["elchubbo" ] [EDA] Im new!! [veronica gibron ] [EDA] something hosted by Jewel on nbc?? [Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] NJC: New Address for Carrie all right guys this is Carrie (dacarrie@hotmail.com) and I just switched e-mail address's since this is another list that I am on that generates a lot of e-mail it seems. *grins* Also I have given myself and Angel name.....and I was wondering if anyone else has it. Midnight Angel That is it.....if not I can change it. Since I am a newbie and a lot of you I have read have been on this list since the age of dirt. HA I mean 96'! *LOL* :*grins* Later. ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ carrielewis@gmx.net http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:56:25 -0800 From: Carrie the Midnight Angel Subject: [EDA] NJC: Thanks....for Welcoming I just wanted to send an e-mail out to the whole list to all the people that welcomed me. Thanks. *S* I feel special....all right okay well not THAT special. But at least you all are nicer then a lot of other lists out there where they like to flam you as soon as you join! *shivers* Bad memories. ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ carrielewis@gmx.net http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:51:10 EST From: NeOblCar@aol.com Subject: Re: Clarification - Re: [EDA] Jewelstock IS on CD!! You just gotta find it! Mike, just as an interesting history lesson for all new people and those who might not realize the difference between the quality of a branch and leaves, could you elaborate a bit? For example, how many branches were there, what was their quality of recording, what happens after about the third or fourth generation tape? I am just hoping to let people know there are top notch copies out there, and then there are ones that are a little further down the tree. If someone really wants to hear JewelStock in the glory that Sean wrote about, then try to search out those who have first generation copies/leaves to dub. I've heard some of these JewelStock CDs and my tape version blows them away. == Rob == ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 01:18:49 From: "Rowdy White" Subject: Re: [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA Or how about the old Jewel drinking games? Everytime someone says/types "angel" you take a drink? ;-) Rowdy >From: Gerrit >Reply-To: amethyst@endor.org >To: LuckyStarr42@aol.com >CC: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA >Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:03:46 -0800 > >LuckyStarr42@aol.com wrote: > > > > I really wish all this childish fighting and bickering would just end. > > Iff you have a problem with another EDA then settle it, DON'T send your > > fights to the entire list, do it privately. > > Can we disagree? And debate endlessly over our points? > > Come on! It's fun! =) > >Gerrit - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:46:32 -0800 From: Carrie the Midnight Angel Subject: [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA Rowdy White wrote: >Or how about the old Jewel drinking games? Everytime someone says/types >"angel" you take a drink? > - ----- HAHAH Now I can't do that, I have to go to work...but I do work at a bar Now if I could only check my e-mail at work...hahahahah easy access to alcohol. WOOHOO! *giggles* Nah nevermind. ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ carrielewis@gmx.net http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 17:56:19 -0800 From: Carrie the Midnight Angel Subject: [EDA] NJC: Carrie reply to Pablo Pablo wrote: how did you know of the Jewel list? and How long have you been a Jewel fan? What do you thing of her new musical efforts (THIS WAY)? - ------ Well I found the list via a lot of the Jewel websites I was checking out. And well I just wanted to be part of it. I am not a HUGE fan of hers, but her music touches me anyway. And it helps me sleep. *winks* I have been a Jewel fan since Foolish Games song came out. Or was it before that. *shrugs* I don't remember exactly....ack I hate that. I bought her newest album not long ago and I really like it. The only other album I have is "Spirit" but of course I need to buy another copy of that. I just woke up so I am not really here. HAHAHHA I'll shut up now. ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ carrielewis@gmx.net http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:11:11 -0800 From: Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] NJC: new cd's I got today Jello.. today I got the new "No Doubt " cd and really , it kicks ass , just like all the other cds they have put out...it's very reggae and I love it!! if you like reggae you will enjoy this album. Also while getting this one the damn Shakira cd stuck to my hand and I bought it.. sorry, but it's really pretty damn good also..has a lot of pop tunes , but for this cd being completely written and produced by Shakira , it's incredible. her lyrics in english are very good, but never ever will be as the passionate spanish ones.. Spanish is a very strong , passionate and romantic language..just like Italian and all the other latin ramifications. Her accent is very strong, but so it's Arnould's, Dr Ruth's, that hot doctor on E.R. , Audrey Hepburn..etc and a bunch of great people..so deal with it! hahaha...sorry , I'm not pushing anyone here, I just like what I got and I think if people enjoy good music , they will enjoy these also... Jewel still my # 1 though.. :) noone will ever make me join a list like this one..:) luv Uri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:15:08 -0500 From: "Sheila56" Subject: Re: NJC [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA After reading your emails to each other, i was wondering would either of you need a designated driver??? Sheila. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie the Midnight Angel To: Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: [EDA] Remember the Angel in EDA > Rowdy White wrote: > > >Or how about the old Jewel drinking games? Everytime someone says/types > >"angel" you take a drink? > > > > ----- > > HAHAH Now I can't do that, I have to go to work...but I do work at a bar > Now if I could only check my e-mail at work...hahahahah easy access to > alcohol. WOOHOO! *giggles* Nah nevermind. > > ~*~ Carrie the Midnight Angel ~*~ > carrielewis@gmx.net > http://www.envy.nu/octobermoon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:06:32 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] NJC: Angel Games Rowdy wrote: > Or how about the old Jewel drinking games? Everytime someone >says/types "angel" you take a drink? i feel up to that.... pass the tequila!!! :) cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 21:01:05 -0500 From: "elchubbo" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: new cd's I got today I miss NO DOUBT and their punk phase...They have sold out to what is mainstream and thats Sad so very sad considering the talent they once had They have gone the way of Smashmouth, Sugar Ray...and other groups who showed promise but sold out for money.... Steve AKA LostAndDelirious - ----- Original Message ----- From: Uri Cancio To: eda digest Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:11 AM Subject: [EDA] NJC: new cd's I got today > Jello.. > > today I got the new "No Doubt " cd and really , it kicks ass , just like > all the other cds they have put out...it's very reggae and I love it!! > if you like reggae you will enjoy this album. Also while getting this > one the damn Shakira cd stuck to my hand and I bought it.. sorry, but > it's really pretty damn good also..has a lot of pop tunes , but for this > cd being completely written and produced by Shakira , it's incredible. > her lyrics in english are very good, but never ever will be as the > passionate spanish ones.. Spanish is a very strong , passionate and > romantic language..just like Italian and all the other latin > ramifications. Her accent is very strong, but so it's Arnould's, Dr > Ruth's, that hot doctor on E.R. , Audrey Hepburn..etc and a bunch of > great people..so deal with it! hahaha...sorry , I'm not pushing anyone > here, I just like what I got and I think if people enjoy good music , > they will enjoy these also... Jewel still my # 1 though.. :) noone will > ever make me join a list like this one..:) > luv > Uri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:01:21 -0800 (PST) From: veronica gibron Subject: [EDA] Im new!! Hi all, Well Ive been subscribing to Jewel Digest for a while now, Ive just never posted anything. I really do love reading all that you guys have to say though. I hope you all have a wonderful night and anyone who would like to reply with a little welcome or hello would be greatly appriciated! Bye! Veronica Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctionsfor all of your holiday gifts! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 22:47:47 -0800 From: Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] something hosted by Jewel on nbc?? Ok I was just doing something else and I just heard on the tv, "blah blah blah" hosted by Jewel, next tuesday night at 10:00 ? " or something like that?? anyone know anything??? I didn't pay attention at all.... Uri ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:28:56 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: Re: [EDA] changes in Jewel/changes in list Thinking about the character of this mail list and how it's evolved, it's apparent that changes (some for the better, perhaps, some for the worse) have occurred in not just Jewel's life and her music, but in individual EDAs themselves; folks that have been on this list for years aren't the same people they used to be in ways - and the relationship of EDAs to the list and posting on it has changed; when there are lots of people, with differing backgrounds and views chatting, it's more of a melting pot of characters; when the breadth narrows, the tone changes; one long-time EDA mentioned to me recently that there now seems to be a few individuals who dominate discussions here; and, no doubt, there's lots of reasons for this development; lots of folks who used to discourse regularly here have stopped posting with any regularity; for my own part, I still read my Jewel Digests, but rarely post anymore; I only got involved with discussions recently 'cause it was clear there were things were way out of line and a number of EDAs were being ill-treated (by one person, so that's not a reflection on the rest of the EDAs on the list); and even that circumstance appears to be an anomaly, and part of the bigger question being examined here eg. that party, who's been a major source of aggravation for new and old list members alike recently, has been here for years ~ but only became a big pain in the past 6 -12 months; is that because this individual has changed, or is it because with fewer other folks posting, it's easier for someone to commandeer a discussion board?; I don't know - and it becomes sort of a chicken and egg question; why don't more people post here more often?; no doubt, there's almost as many reasons as there are silent EDAs; in my case, I'm just too darn busy; since I first heard Jewel, I've taken on an entirely different career/calling, and there's not enough hours in the day to keep up with all my work; and it's about music, and being a difference in his world ~ and Jewel and this list have been a catalyst for that; my lack of posting in the last few years has not because of Spirit, or Joy, or This Way or anything that's happened in Jewel's life or career since Pieces Of You... still, there's lots of good reading here - mostly from new folks who have discovered Jewel and still carry the flame of "radical anti-cynicism" aloft; and the more veteran list members who post occasionally, that's often good stuff too! most people are still positive, here, and trying to remain so; Mr BB is not all that far away, and Mike still has maintaining the list's heart and integrity as his purpose; and many others (too many to name) are still here, new and old; the negativity can diminish, it's all part of the ebb and flow peace and cheers, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:47:51 -0800 From: "TSUNAMI" Subject: Re: [EDA] changes in Jewel/changes in list p.s. fwiw, Pieces of You is my favourite Jewel album; I really wonder how things would have evolved had POY taken longer to ignite commercially - and Fritz Creek Store was released ( : ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] "Fritz Creek Store" I've always wondered about this record. I heard it was finished, then later I heard it was only started. At any rate, has anyone heard anything from it? I know it's unreleased but... :-) I wonder if it's continuing along the same folk path as POY or more produced so to speak. Sean >np: Rosanne Cash "Interiors" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:48:12 EST From: NikosSong@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Hello Again (kind of) - From Jenni Well, it's been about a week now since I left the list through my ForeverForNow@msn.com email address. It wasn't until today that I remembered I was still in the digest form of the list on this screen name. (Those of you who replied to my e-mails saying "Wow, I didn't know you were on for so long!" It's probably because I used this addy until about 3 months ago. Maybe you recognize this one?) Anyway, I caught up on all of the digests since I left, and I can't decide how I feel. Yes, some of the bickering has stopped since I left, (and Diana, thanks for that great post about me, LOL!) but it still continues often. I think that I'll stay on the digest form of the list on this email address, since I only check it maybe once a month. If in a few months it gets better, maybe I'll join up again. I'm not exactly sure why I'm making these plans public -- I doubt any of you are going to stay up at night thinking "Oh my goodness! I think I said something wrong today. Now Jenni won't come back! OH NO...." but I like to think at least ONE person out there cares! Anyway, this email is also to thank all of you who emailed me privately when I announced my leaving. You all are very kind, and I appreciated every single one of your emails. Thank you so much :) Bye for now, Jenni ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:14:05 EST From: SeanHooks@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewelstock tape/CD availability and treeing Couple quick things. Mike, how come we aren't allowed to re-tree Jewelstock? This makes no sense to me 5 years later. I think it'd be cool for EDAs who weren't on the list back then to be able to take part in a tape tree, actually preferably a CD tree. And to whoever the moron was who said he would prefer to have Jewelstock on tape rather than CD; the logic they used was that 3 tapes is better than 4 CDs and the only reason to have it on CD is if you don't have a tape deck. Absolutely moronically ignorant statement. EVERYTHING is better on CD. They're more convenient. You can skip to a song directly without futsing around with the rewind and fast forward. Plus tapes are way more fragile. Why would you ever want something on tape instead of CD? Anyway, I'm glad people are talking about these epic Jewel shows again. The more people who hear them, the more people who are getting a glimpse at the true artist behind the corporate image. Also, for you Jewel poetry fans out there, give a listen to some of the original versions of poems(as they were read Jewelstock Night 1) that were altered for their release in A Night Without Armor. The original is must better. Plus it's always cool to hear poems read instead of just reading them on the page. Anyway, thanks for listening. Later, Sean Hooks bEverythingbs temporary if you give it enough timeb - -Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 23:59:58 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] more about the JS versions I think all of the original branches were given first generation copies....from Mike's "master" copy. So anyone who got there copies from one of those branches (I forgot how many there were total), would have 2nd generation copies. The branch people would have first generation copies. But good luck finding one of these people who are still on the list! I don't think there were more than 10 branches...at least not for the US leaves. So that would be only 10 first generation copies in existence. But getting a 2nd generation copy wouldn't be that bad, and I'm sure there are far more of those floating about. But Rob made a good point, and it's what I've been thinking all along...there's probably alot of tape copies that are better than the CD ones. Actually you won't find ANY CD copies that are better than the 2nd generation tape copies. Unless one of the orginal branch people made a CD version since from their first generation copy. Again, unlikely. So that's why I said the only "advantage", if any, to having a CD would be if you don't own a tape deck. Just for the convenience of not having to buy a new tape deck. Although it is 4 CD's, vs. only 3 tapes. I really don't see any advantage to having the CD's actually. I have no desire to even pursue something like that. Now if Mike was willing to make CD versions of the master's, then we'll talk. :-) (just kidding Mike) Derrick - -----Original Message----- From: NeOblCar@aol.com To: ducksoup@quackquack.net; jewel@smoe.org Sent: 12/11/01 6:51 PM Subject: Re: Clarification - Re: [EDA] Jewelstock IS on CD!! You just gotta find it! Mike, just as an interesting history lesson for all new people and those who might not realize the difference between the quality of a branch and leaves, could you elaborate a bit? For example, how many branches were there, what was their quality of recording, what happens after about the third or fourth generation tape? I am just hoping to let people know there are top notch copies out there, and then there are ones that are a little further down the tree. If someone really wants to hear JewelStock in the glory that Sean wrote about, then try to search out those who have first generation copies/leaves to dub. I've heard some of these JewelStock CDs and my tape version blows them away. == Rob == ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #686 ***************************