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Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] This Way review from The Daily Mississipian ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] Goodbye ["Jenni Hayter" ] [EDA] Re: (NJC) Goodbye [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] Re: Review from The Daily Mississipian ["George Rue" ] Re: [EDA] This Way review from The Daily Mississipian ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] RE: NJC Michelle Branch [SIGNALSYYZ@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel's Fav. Things [Spirit1924@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Re: (NJC) Goodbye ["Rowdy White" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:47:38 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: Re: [EDA] This Way review from The Daily Mississipian Is this guy saying that This Way was more "produced" than Spirit????? Anyway, I liked when he said that Atlantic should let her be herself. It was pretty cool. I REALLY REALLY want the next album to be live solo acoustic. It would be so good! Fabio >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 2:45 PM Subject: [EDA] This Way review from The Daily Mississipian > Jewel's 'This Way' lacks direction but promises better things down the road > > Steven Godfrey > DM Arts & Life Editor > December 04, 2001 > > Calling Jewel's third studio album "This Way" a case of growing pains is a > little misguided, but the Alaskan's first "full band" record hammered out in > Nashville suffers from a serious identity crisis. > > Everyone with basic cable knows the storybook tale of one Jewel Kilcher, the > porcelain-voiced siren who grew up in rural Alaska and pilgrimaged to San > Diego, living out of a van and working to make it big. She did in 1995 with > the under-produced but emotionally precise "Pieces of You," a record half > tracked in a coffee house, that ended up storming the charts with hits like > "Who Will Save Your Soul?" and "You Were Meant For Me." > > 1998 saw the release of her follow up "Spirit." While certainly not recorded > on the cheap, "Spirit" retained the simple sound of Jewel and her guitar and > only used accompaning instruments and knob tweaks when needed. > > It seems the black hole of Nashville has swallowed the young songwriter with > "This Way." The album is her most tweaked and polished to date. None of the > rough edges of "Pieces of You" can be heard, which is disheartening. Part of > Jewel's appeal has always been her ability to create intimacy on a listener > by listener basis, from radio stations to arena gigs. "This Way" amps up her > sound into a wall of mix station ready pop but does nothing to engage the > listener. > > It's not to say that Jewel should be confined to coffee house musings, she's > entitled to kick out her jams, but not at the expense of the material. The > only full-band constructed track that works is "Love Me, Just Leave Me > Alone," a bluesy rock anthem that ends with the famous porcelain voice > screaming out in frustration over a wall of wah wahs and drum rolls. It works > because the noise is needed, but even it suffers from the buff and polish job > that's so common in Nashville producing. Rough edges are sometimes needed. > > Aside from the locale of the recording, the subject matter also leans toward > the cowboy way. It's more than a given that Jewel is more than fixated on the > life of her rodeo champ boyfriend, as evident in "Till We Run Out Of Road." > The track is her best attempt at George Strait's "Amarillo By Morning" but > gets too mushy to objectively look at the lonely bull-riding life. > > While you may be sick of Jewel and her VH1-ready backstory she's still one of > the most promising young songwriters today. If Neil Young broke now all his > trappings would seem just as pretentious. The same goes for Joni Mitchell, > James Taylor and all the other truly melodic songwriters in the history of > folk-rock-pop. If Ms. Kilcher can learn to deal with burnout and find a more > acute commentary, her future is wide open. Atlantic Records needs to stop > pushing her into a clichE= and let her write music. Her productivity (three > albums since she finished "Pieces" in '95) compared to her overexposure as a > celebrity is disheartening (Note: this doesn't account for her marathon > touring scheduling, something admirable but occasionally counterproductive). > > Photo spreads don't make great songwriters, but a long career of hit and miss > studio work does. The intimacy and fragile feminism of "Pieces of You" > doesn't need to be revisited, but its authenticity and spirit does. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2001 00:48:19 +0100 From: "Andreas" Subject: [EDA] many new pics on Java Jewel website Hi everyone, I have updated my website Java Jewel http://www.efanguide.com/~jewel with many new pictures, e.g. from the My VH1 Music Awards, a really nice pic from the OneSeven-Event, Lennox Lewis + Baseball anthem singing, AMA nominees presentation with Puff Daddy .....) Hope you enjoy it! Andreas from Java Jewel http://www.jewel.de.vu http://www.efanguide.com/~jewel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:17:26 -0500 From: "Jenni Hayter" Subject: [EDA] Goodbye Well, after five years on this list, I can't take it anymore. When I first joined up, I was welcomed into an extremely close family. Without even asking, I had people offer to send me numerous tapes of angelfood. Up until the last year or so, we rarely had arguments, nor did we have petty people who were willing to risk everything to make someone mad. I can't put up with it anymore. Though it'll be sad to leave those who DO care, it's not worth it. There are more annoying, mean, spiteful emails nowadays than there have been in the other 4 years put together. Thanks to those who I have kept in touch with (like you Diana!) and hopefully this won't prevent us from talking. Anyway, goodbye to all of you. JenniGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:55:02 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: (NJC) Goodbye Wow this puts it all into perspective for me. After five long years a member is leaving. People actually offered to send Jewel tapes? This must have been a different list back then. How many others have been here for five years? Sean >np: Mazzy Star "She Hangs Brightly" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:57:13 -0500 From: "George Rue" Subject: [EDA] Re: Review from The Daily Mississipian Wow! This review hits the nail on the head. I completely agree with this reviewer. You have to look at the album from outside in. You can't be a fanatical fan, and just love everything that she does. To be fair you have know about Jewels musical past and you have to approach it from neutral ground. I think this reviewer knew exactly what he was talking about. Here are a few excerpts from the review that I agree upon - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------- >Jewel's 'This Way' lacks direction but promises better things down the road< >"This Way" a case of growing pains is a little misguided, but the Alaskan's first "full band" record hammered out in Nashville suffers from a serious identity crisis.< >Nashville has swallowed the young songwriter, "This Way." The album is her most tweaked and polished to date< > None of the rough edges of "Pieces of You" can be heard, which is disheartening< >"This Way" amps up her sound into a wall of mix station ready pop but does nothing to engage the listener.< Very True!!!! >the subject matter also leans toward the cowboy way. It's more than a given that Jewel is more than fixated on the life of her rodeo champ boyfriend< >Atlantic Records needs to stop pushing her into a clichE< >her overexposure as a celebrity is disheartening< >>>>>Photo spreads don't make great songwriters<<<<<< >>>>>The intimacy and fragile feminism of "Pieces of You" doesn't need to be revisited, but its authenticity and spirit does.<<<< - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:25:34 EST From: WishingChair19@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: Review from The Daily Mississipian In a message dated 12/8/2001 7:00:37 PM Central Standard Time, snowden@uconect.net writes: > Nashville has swallowed the young songwriter, "This Way." The album is her > most tweaked and polished to date Yeah right! Did this guy ever hear spirit? ~kris~ ~THE Nashville Angel~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:35:23 -0500 From: "Scott" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: (NJC) Goodbye <> I've been here almost 5.. I was thisclose to quitting a few weeks ago, but stayed on for the release of This Way and hopes that the list would rise up the stupid crap it's been wallowing in for all too long.. It WAS very different when I joined, a warm community where people didn't reduce things to mindless bickering and fighting.. People gladly offered angelfood and made personal connections.. There was a huge number of emails, but it was alright because the NJCs weren't all private fights made public.. They were about EDAF events and LRC tours.. List mail was something I looked forward to reading everyday, not something to skip over and be disappointed with.. But oh well, times change.. I can only hope the upcoming tour in a few months and people learning to not send personal issues to the list will help stabilize everything a little bit.. People, you don't have to get the last word in all the time.. No one cares that you can cross-examine everything someone else says.. No one wants to read it all, and no one is happy with the current state of things.. Well, I can't say "no one".. But the vast majority of us would really appreciate it if you people would chill a little.. Blah blah blah, I'll leave it alone.. People will never learn.. It's just disappointing how ridiculous this list has become.. scott.evans [[mind is DISCONNECTED. but my heart is WIRED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . Yahoo! IM: sevan112 . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [ http://jewel.tanweb.com ] Neurotik. (my personal page) [ http://tanweb.com/scott ] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:48:56 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] This Way review from The Daily Mississipian > Is this guy saying that This Way was more "produced" than Spirit????? > > Anyway, I liked when he said that Atlantic should let her be herself. It was > pretty cool. I REALLY REALLY want the next album to be live solo acoustic. > It would be so good! What???? Jewel's releasing a new album??? When??? Oh boy! I cant wait until its released!!! (sorry I couldn't resist) :) cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:27:22 EST From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: [EDA] mississippi article From the Mississippi article: "Atlantic Records needs to stop pushing her into a clichE= and let her write music. " Amen ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:26:00 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] SJC, SCC: Best video look SJC: Some Jewel Content SCC: Some Cymbie Content, lol (hey that should be a new heading, haha, okay I'm just kidding) > I think Jewel looked the best in the WWSYS video. That's her most >natural look, right down to the light brown hair. As with her first Conan > performance (my fave TV one), I've always felt she's looked better with > darker hair. If you compare a picture from the WWSYS video to one >from the SS video, it doesn't even really look like the same person >anymore. I posted pretty much the same thing the other day... how she doesn't even look like the same person. I'm sure its the hair... but also, the more I think about it.... has Jewel's skin tone changed? or was she wearing different makeup then? I can't describe it, but besides the hair, there is definately big some difference in how she looks now compared to how she looked then. I'm not complaining though... we all go through weird changes. You should see a pic of me in my freshman year of high school (yyeeeaacchhhhhhh!) and a pic of me today. I'm such a hottie! j/k.... but i definately look different, and much much better than I did when I was 7-17... all of a sudden when i was 17, the guys ACTUALLY liked me, and i went from being barked at to having a different guy ask me out every other day. Kind of like that movie: "She's All That", where the girl went from being complete geek to complete knockout. Gosh, its really bugging me now though... when i see an older pic of jewel, what the heck is it about her that looks different?! its something else besides the hair.... speaking of hair... i cut about 5 inches off mine. i don't even recognize myself it looks so different. anyways i'll shut up now... don't want some people flaming ME for the NJC, when i'm not the only one doing NJC (actually it's SJC but who's reading?) cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:35:04 EST From: SIGNALSYYZ@aol.com Subject: [EDA] RE: NJC Michelle Branch hi i`m looking for any shows from Michelle Branch.......please email private....many thanks to all,edward ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:44:51 EST From: Spirit1924@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel's Fav. Things Hey Angels, I would love to find out what Jewel's fav. things are, I mean yeah we know where she was born etc. but I think it would be cool to know the little things such as her fav. color, movie, book, food etc. Mr. BB could you help? Take Care, Kristin "Just like chocolate-I love it!" - -Jewel "MTV: Unplugged" Listen to Jewel's new song "Standing Still" @: http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2001 03:41:21 From: "Rowdy White" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: (NJC) Goodbye I've been here about five years now, more or less, and I did leave the list about a month ago... My mailbox was strangely empty, and I missed the list more that I thought I would... but as everyone has been quick to say, the list is not what it once was, and will never be again. But, I do not plan on leaving again any time soon. Alot of us grew up on the list, and now we do not feel so innocent, have become disillusioned since we realized our hero is human, and far from perfect too. We fell back from our idealistic views when we saw this, and after the constant hounding from the real world. Disenchantment spreads, and so the older members on the list, those who often put together the gatherings, and financed more than their share caught the mailease as well. Why let things fade out like this? I think I'm just going to continue being a part of the list in much of the same way as I have over the years. The few people that still would travel farther to see a LRC than Jewel will still do so, and people that go to see EDAs just for EDAs, and not concerts will as well.... Do not misunderstand me, Jewel's music brightened a dark spot in my life, as with most people on this list, but the people I've started thinking of as "friends" instead of "EDAs" did much more for me. Most of these friends I met in my first three years, but I've made a few more friends these past few months. I think I would be cheating myself by letting the tone of the list drive me away. We can let a few people "ruin" the list, or we can just ignore them, and set our tone. Vans covered in blue ribbons, EDAF events attended by lots of EDAs, LRCs/LRTs being attended by more and more people, angelfood traded openly, freely, livingroom floors covered with sleeping people that were strangers hours before... all of these things do not have to be fond memories, but rather things to look forward to in the future. Sure, things will not be like they were in the future, all things change, as they should, but we do not have to either fully accept the loss of our list, nor bemoan things as they once were... We could strive to renew the EDA spirit, to be the difference that makes the difference, and all that positive stuff... There are many ways to go about this, and they do not have to be fancy or expensive like Bearsville for those of us that live past the horizon's horizon from NY. Little angelfood trades, contests, local EDA gatherings, and just little quirky, screwball EDA things... I dunno, but a few things that made the list great for me in the past, and things I try to do now: 1. Getting many replies for stupid little questions I posted in the past, even if a few were people saying that they did not know the answer. If you know the answer to a question posted to the list, answer it.. You may be the only EDA that person gets an answer from... Take the time to read those posts titled "NJC:PLEASE HELP" 2. Reading the occasional post about odd things jewel-related or not that happened during some EDAs day... Seeing things from their view point has made me look at my views more than once after such a post. 3. Seeing posts for little contests for little things, with crazy or different ways to win, and being a part of them. I'm no longer an active collector of jewel things, but I still try to enter those contests, just to do it. 4. not related to email, but just being at EDA gatherings.. for all my online typing, I am a very quiet person in person. I do not have to talk all the time to have a good time, and besides, for me it is just as fun to listen to everyone else's stories. Though I admit it is fun to do the crazy things that occur at EDA gatherings... I've slept with plywood animals, hugged other men on the side of I-45 in the middle of the day, and other things that one would not a picture a 265 pound construction worker to do... Anyway, just a few of my thoughts, but I've got to go to bed... Goodnight Rowdy > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #673 ***************************