From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #634 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 06 : Number 634 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music ["New World Warehouse" ] [EDA] NJC: kevin/calendar ["now and zen girl" ] [EDA] jewels wages/jewel bashing ["now and zen girl" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music ["David & Beth" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music ["cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music Just wanted to say I'm just throwing in my words that money does not equal happiness either. Right now, I work for very little money, probably the lowest I've ever made. Now, this is calculating hours vs. money (I work anywhere from 10-16 hours a day and work 6 days a week usually, sometimes 7). I used to work at Microsoft, I quit that because I couldn't stand the whiney people...that was $13 an hour. Then, went to Guitar Center and was the Guitar Manager...less money, a little more fun, but still a drag. Now, I work with my guitar player for a pyrotechnics company (we do professional fireworks shows) that also sells weapons and martial arts gear in the off season. I make my own hours (that's why I work so much, I want to get things done) though if I didn't work as hard as I did, I'd have to go back on schedule. I also NEVER have conflicts with my work schedule and the band schedule since my boss is the rhythm guitar player (the drummer works with us as well). Though I don't have as much in the way of material possession, I'm a lot happier. Not to mention, a lot of people forget the crap a lot of musicians go through BEFORE making it big. Music is one of the hardest industries to get in and stay in. Right now, I've turned down a lot of good paying jobs so I could keep my schedule open, I've invested $1000's in music equipment with the little money I do make. On top of the job, the band rehearses twice a week and that doesn't count any gigs we do. Most of the gigs we do, we play for free or peanuts (that's the local scene, if you are not a cover band, you don't get squat) - usually not even enough to pay for gas and food for all of us. All of this money and time invested with no guarantee that it will ever turn into anything. While a lot of people do work hard jobs, how many do you know will invest years and many many hours for the first, "who knows how many" years with no guarantee they will ever get paid for the job ? It's not the toughest job on the planet, but it's no free ride. There are always exceptions (i.e. Backstreet Boys), but don't forget, Jewel had to pound the streets with her music before hitting the pot of gold. Lew www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:36:24 -0800 From: "Jewel Fan" Subject: Re: [EDA] take me off the list, please LMAO!! I just thought this was funny! Here I am reading all this email about how Jewel has lots of money... etc. Then I come across this email... "take me off the list please". I dunno.. I just thought it was funny! (DON'T take me off the list, i'm enjoying it too much!) :) ~Jewel Fan~ http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven (long story about the name of the URL. It's a Jewel Page) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:46:00 -0800 From: "Jewel Fan" Subject: [EDA] christmas present to me FROM me! Hey.. Just wanted to let you all know that I just got Chasing Down The Dawn (soft cover) book for myself today. Same price as from the "Jewelstore". Its so cool!!! I'm gonna wrap it up and open it on christmas! I'll act all surpised and stuff! I'll be like... AHH!! This is what I've always wanted!! Thank you MYSELF!!! ;) I have yet to get the hard cover book. I checked at Tower but they have it for like $25. If anyone can help me out with where I can get it cheaper, please let me know! Thanks, and I can't wait till christmas so I can open my present!!! =D ~Jewel Fan~ http://www.angelfire.com/sk/killorgeteven (long story about the name of the URL. It's a Jewel Page) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:53:56 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] The money issue Just for the record, I never said money = happiness. I know it doesn't. However, it SURE helps! And if Jewel is unhappy regardless of the amount of money she has, then maybe she should use some of that and seek professional counseling rather than taking her "bad days" out on the fans who did absolutely nothing to her beforehand. I agree money isn't directly the answer to all problems, but it CAN be used to help resolve issues if one has enough of it...which she certainly does. So if there's a void in her life that she's unhappy with, maybe she should retire and focus on that with the money she's earned. She doesn't need to work again, so at least for me, I'd be focusing on happiness now. That is, IF she isn't happy doing what she's doing. Sometimes I really wonder. I like my job but at the same time, if I had enough money where I could quit my job and not suffer financially, I would in a split second. I think most people would, other than the workaholics. Jewel can do this....yet she isn't. So that tells me she must enjoy what she's doing. However, sometimes her actions don't correspond with this. In which case, maybe the money should be channeled in other areas so she IS as happy as she can possibly be. Just a thought. Derrick PS...since most people didn't reply to my thread a few days ago, about the 3 questions you would ask Jewel if you had a chance, I guess I've already gotten the answer. Most people on the list wouldn't say anything at all to Jewel if she was standing right in front of them....how funny. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:35:11 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] NJC: kevin/calendar hey kevin i guess you missed my post about emailing me privately if you have something to say to me! for your information there was no anger implied in my post about the calendar missing dates. i was just wondering if someone could help me out with some answers. so i get attacked for asking a question, as if i should feel bad about asking a question! i get emails from people say why would you post a question about the calendar to the list, how are we supposed to know. well i did it cus i thought maybe mrbb would see it, or someone else would that could help. and what do you know! mrbb did reply! hahah i was right. and why you, kevin, think my message was angry i do not know. and how dare you accuse me of not having a life. where do you get off on that?! if you have something to say to me... email me PRIVATELY!! but if you insist on doing it to the list, as everyone else does, then i will too. alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:57:33 +0000 From: "now and zen girl" Subject: [EDA] jewels wages/jewel bashing people on this list tell me that i dont have a life... i check my digests to find that every post is about how much jewel makes and how all her money is going to cure her every bad moment! now who doesnt have a life? i think its all of you who sit and try and figure out how much jewel makes in order to support your argument that a lot of money will take away pain and bad days!! yes its cliche, but too true, money does not buy happiness!! maybe it does for you materialistic freaks... but for someone like jewel, from what she has said, it doesnt seem to be that way. am i the only one who has heard her say that she didnt care if she got famous with lots of money, she thought shed be singing on tour boats, and that was fine with her. would she trade in all this fame and money now? no, i dont think she would, but who would? she got famous it happend... she has money... so what! and who gets off saying her job is so glamorous, that its so easy, that she has no reason to have a bad day! some of you are acting like she got off with an easy job... yeah thats why so many famous people end up dead from drug overdoses, getting hooked on sleeping pills, going to mental hospitals (ex. mariah carey, and how rich is she?!!! VERY RICH!). until jewel took her 2 year break, how often do you think she got a full nights sleep. she ran on empty for so long... and she works very hard, going to bed at like 4, waking up a few hours later. her job is no easier than ours. we just happen to see the pretty sides of it on tv. but i dont think that a lot of you are really paying attention. if this job was so wonderful, and with so much money that there is no room for a bad day... then why did she almost quit??!!! tell me that the next time you say how easy and wonderful and perfect her life is compared to ours. she didnt like her life anymore, and she had plenty of money! to think that just a few days ago i was saying how much i loved this list. haha what a joke, today i hate it. not so much that i would leave... cus these things usually clear over. but i read it and it feels like an i hate jewel list, not a list that was originally created because of a common love for jewel. i mean we all saw the loss of members that mike put up... now why do you all think one of those reasons is that so many have left. i think one of them is because of annoying conversations about how bitchy jewel can be and how much she makes and how she isnt allowed to have bad days! im done. alisa - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 05:58:13 EST From: ABear978@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re:Jewel on the list Your wrote: >I can think of dozens of other artist, who are on a never-ending tour, constantly< Thats a bad way of thinking. Touring should be finite, not infinate. If your touring and a)fan base is still small b)having enough money left for gas and food night by night or c)about to kill the other bandmates or d)all of the above ...you've joined the 10,000+ other bands that you never hear about. I'd get burnt out on never-ending touring, if I were the unlucky fellow. >THE hardest working artist on the planet, is BB King. ( I know you guys are like "Who's That"). Through the 60's/70's/80's/90's BB King as done 300-350 shows per year. Now at the age of 75 he still does 200+ shows each year.< Don't forget James Brown! He's the hardest workin man in showbiz! BB has been around, I'd really love to see him play once before he keals over of old age. James still does shows night after night. Probably more than BB does, but don't quote me on that. :) >So far Jewel has performed less than 10 shows in 2001. and about only 15 shows in 2000. Looks like she's had a lot of free time on her hands.< Most if not all of them(the shows this year) were for promoting This Way and its release. After the Spirit tour in 1998-1999, she took a well deserved break. The sprinkling of shows last year were awesome(I got to watch Jewel play piano live *gasp* very cool!) but they were not intended to be a full blown tour like for promoting an album. Just chill. Jewel and the band will promote This Way soon enough. Go buy an XBox or PS2. Kung Fu Angel Alex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:24:45 EST From: Waterwaster@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Jewel married? Does anyone know if and when Jewel got married. They referred to Ty as her husband on a radio interview the other day, and I've noticed that he wears a band on his left ring finger. If this is old news, sorry but I never knew. Congratulations to Jewel. Crystal ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:01:09 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] The money issue > PS...since most people didn't reply to my thread a few days ago, about the 3 > questions you would ask Jewel if you had a chance, I guess I've already > gotten the answer. Most people on the list wouldn't say anything at all to > Jewel if she was standing right in front of them....how funny. lol, those people would just ask: 1) can i have your autograph??? 2) why are you being so rude to me??? 3) you must have PMS, huh??? cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:22:01 -0500 From: "David & Beth" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music No one said that Jewel got a free ride, the point is many of us have worked extremely hard in life, and most of us will never be in Jewel's financial situation. Yeah, money doesn't buy happiness, BUT Jewel sought out fame and now that she's achieved it, she has certain obligations of fame. It's no different then anyone's professional obligations. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "New World Warehouse" To: Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:23 AM Subject: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music > Just wanted to say I'm just throwing in my words that money does not equal > happiness either. Right now, I work for very little money, probably the > lowest I've ever made. Now, this is calculating hours vs. money (I work > anywhere from 10-16 hours a day and work 6 days a week usually, sometimes 7). > I used to work at Microsoft, I quit that because I couldn't stand the whiney > people...that was $13 an hour. Then, went to Guitar Center and was the Guitar > Manager...less money, a little more fun, but still a drag. Now, I work with > my guitar player for a pyrotechnics company (we do professional fireworks > shows) that also sells weapons and martial arts gear in the off season. I > make my own hours (that's why I work so much, I want to get things done) > though if I didn't work as hard as I did, I'd have to go back on schedule. I > also NEVER have conflicts with my work schedule and the band schedule since my > boss is the rhythm guitar player (the drummer works with us as well). Though > I don't have as much in the way of material possession, I'm a lot happier. > Not to mention, a lot of people forget the crap a lot of musicians go through > BEFORE making it big. Music is one of the hardest industries to get in and > stay in. Right now, I've turned down a lot of good paying jobs so I could > keep my schedule open, I've invested $1000's in music equipment with the > little money I do make. On top of the job, the band rehearses twice a week > and that doesn't count any gigs we do. Most of the gigs we do, we play for > free or peanuts (that's the local scene, if you are not a cover band, you > don't get squat) - usually not even enough to pay for gas and food for all of > us. All of this money and time invested with no guarantee that it will ever > turn into anything. While a lot of people do work hard jobs, how many do you > know will invest years and many many hours for the first, "who knows how many" > years with no guarantee they will ever get paid for the job ? It's not the > toughest job on the planet, but it's no free ride. There are always > exceptions (i.e. Backstreet Boys), but don't forget, Jewel had to pound the > streets with her music before hitting the pot of gold. > > Lew > www.coilback.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 08:36:21 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Money, happiness and music > No one said that Jewel got a free ride, the point is many of us have worked > extremely hard in life, and most of us will never be in Jewel's financial > situation. Yeah, money doesn't buy happiness, BUT Jewel sought out fame and > now that she's achieved it, she has certain obligations of fame stuff like signing autographs is not an obligation. I highly doubt anyone's record/movie/tv contract says "you have to sign autographs" in the fune print. Signing autographs and being cheery is not an obligation, but a personal choice. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:02:59 -0600 From: "Kovacs, Mirinda" Subject: RE: [EDA] NJC Money and happiness Okay, I'll bite. If I won the lottery here's what I would do. 1. Pay off all of my bills and my house. 2. Buy a huge house with everything I have ever wanted. 3. Give our old house to my husband's parents. 4. Pay off my parents house. 5. Quit my thankless job. 6. Travel around the world. 7. Find my mother the best doctors in the world and spend every last penny I have trying to make her better. That's it, that's what I would do. :) Mi Rinda ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #634 ***************************