From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #606 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, November 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 606 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Jewel's current state/ performing solo [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] tour idea ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] Question [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] re: imagine this [Mirko Serkovic ] Re: [EDA] tour idea ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] Re: tour idea [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] Jewel/Poltz ["Sheila56" ] [EDA] Jewel on Conan ["Bob Hedman" ] [EDA] OAC: Cameron Dezen-last night of residency in MA... [KNicky3116@aol] [EDA] SS ["FabioJJ" ] [EDA] Re: jewel's band [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] what happened on conan... [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] Re: SS [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] re: what happened on conan... [space_bandits@webtv.net] [EDA] is it necessary? ["cymbaline" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Jewel's current state/ performing solo For sure... Jewel is NEVER better than when it's just her, alone on stage with her guitar and a microphone. That is when Jewel is the greatest pop singer alive. With bands it's always great, but a lot more hit and miss, and never (in my opinion) as marvelous as her solo performances. np: Jewel "This Way" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:42:56 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] tour idea My vote is for another "Tiny Light's" style tour...but this time covering more areas like her Spirit Tour did. :-) She doesn't *reeeeaaaally* need a band does she??? She seldom had one during the "tour" for PoY. And it sold more than any of her other CD's have. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 20:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Question Someone please answer... Why should Jewel be sick of playing 'Standing Still' all ready? I just joined this past week so if it's all ready been discussed I didn't see it. Has this song been performed on the last tour? I mean, she hasn't done so many promo appearances as to wear the song out has she? As I said before...she played 'Foolish Games' on every tv and concert stage known to man for a few years. I can't help but think of us in comparison...most people work at jobs and/or careers doing virtually the same thing day after day after month after year...so wouldn't it be a bit self-absorbed and precious to tire of a song after a few months or so? I would hope thats not it...unless she never wanted the song released in the first place but faced record company pressure. I'd just like some background and rationale as to why anyone would guess she's tired of playing the song. Thanks! :-) Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 17:58:21 -0800 (PST) From: Mirko Serkovic Subject: [EDA] re: imagine this Hi! Nooooooooooooo.... leave her play solo acoustic... she's supposed to sing solo acoustic at the Craig Kilborne show!! :) Mirko Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:48:51 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: Re: [EDA] tour idea I think she should do what she that at the Humphrey's, you know? Solo (12 songs) and then band (7). It would satisfy most of people, don't you think? It would be very good. Fabio >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << - ----- Original Message ----- From: Karacostas, Derrick W. To: Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 11:42 PM Subject: [EDA] tour idea > My vote is for another "Tiny Light's" style tour...but this time covering > more areas like her Spirit Tour did. :-) She doesn't *reeeeaaaally* need a > band does she??? She seldom had one during the "tour" for PoY. And it sold > more than any of her other CD's have. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:01:32 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: tour idea Brilliant, but simple! Jewel made such an initial impact I think because she was a young lady with a beautiful voice who wrote great songs and played pretty guitar. Maybe it's just me, and a few folks I know, but she even usually sings better and with more emotional impact when it's just her. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:12:52 -0500 From: "Sheila56" Subject: [EDA] Jewel/Poltz I was just wondering, why doesn't S. Poltz play in Jewel's band??? Isn't he the one who helped her so much in her beginning? I've seen him in some of her concerts...Austin City Limits, i think. Is he not a good enough player or don't they get along anymore?? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:04:47 -0500 From: "Bob Hedman" Subject: [EDA] Jewel on Conan Hi angels, For the love of God, someone please post pictures of the appearance. I missed it because I am an idiot. I need to see Jewel in a short skirt. PLEASE!!!! Bob The Angel who still hasn't met Jewel "No longer lend your strength to that which you wish to be free from." ~Jewel (Life Uncommon) Angel Needs A Ride - Jewel Page: http://www.fortunecity.com/tinpan/kurtwood/152/ rvh102@optonline.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:25:19 EST From: KNicky3116@aol.com Subject: [EDA] OAC: Cameron Dezen-last night of residency in MA... EDAs, Thanks to all of you who have come out to support Cameron at the past few Kendall shows this month. Join us this Monday the 26th for Cameron's last night of the residency. Here are the details: Monday, November 26 Cameron Dezen w/Kristin Cifelli and Alex Dezen Kendall Cafe 233 Cardinal Medeiros Ave. Cambridge, MA 8pm, $5, 21+ You must see this show, so please come show your support!! Also, tune into WERS 88.9FM at 8:30am Monday morning to hear a live interview/performance with Cameron! Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving weekend. Nicky ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:18:12 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: [EDA] SS I don't know, but do you guys think Jewel doesn't like SS? I mean, all she had to say about it was "I said it all in the song". I believe Jewel will play this song seldomly in the tour. Maybe only in the beginning. It's not a great song. And yes, like someone else said, it's a total studio song. Fabio >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:29:37 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel's band Hey > >I think we have to take into account the fact that she had been playing > >with the Spirit Tour guys for over 6 months when the Life Uncommon DVD > >footage was shot. She's only been playing with these guys for a few > > weeks > now. > ---------------- > How do you figure it had been 6 months? Spirit came out in Nov. > 1998...yes, > that's 6 months before the following April when the DVD footage was > shot...but, in your own words below... I remember the Higher Ground Benefit Concert being announced - it was around June of 99... and they'd been playing together since january. That's about 6 months. > > "Also, don't forget during the promotional appearances for Spirit (the > hands > appearances) she had totally different musicians playing than during the > Spirit Tour." > > Well I remember the Spirit tour guys even being more "together" during all > the early TV spots. Comparing apples to apples here. They were a tighter > group from the beginning. I still have all those shows on tape too. :-) Maybe so. But they certainly weren't "exchanging glances" and looking together as a group.. but the performances were fine... as they are now. > >Also, don't forget during the promotional appearances for Spirit (the > >hands appearances) she had totally different musicians playing than > > during > the Spirit Tour. There is a chance that she has hired these guys >for the > promotional tour (and the christmas concerts) and she'll be >bringing the > old band back for the tour next year. I think that's a >distinct > possibility. > ----------------- > While this would be great, I just don't see it happening. I mean, guys > like > Steve P. I doubt could devote that much time again to tour with Jewel. > Plus > I remember reading on the list that this was THE new band. > Starting with the Humphrey's show. Granted "new" could mean a variety of > things...maybe new for the TV shows, the X-MAS shows, etc. Or new meaning > her first band since the last one. But I tend to think it meant new > meaning > "the new tour band". Of course everything is always subject to change. > Just cause that was put in writing doesn't mean there aren't clauses to get > around it somehow. I wrote to MrBB regarding this and he said that Jewel put the band together three weeks ago for the promotional phase.. but the concert touring phase is still five months away and that she still has plenty of time to determine the actual lineup of the concert band between now and then - so i think it's safe to say that this is definitely not the "final band"... whether or not she uses any of it's members is yet to be seen I suppose. But it certainly hasn't been announced that this is the touring band. > > >Also, I think everyone is reading WAY too much into the whole Conan > >thing. She looked a little tired but other than that fine. She was > > kinda > laughing at something during the final credit thing and then she >got up > and > Conan pointed to the back of the CD case and asked her a >question and she > seemed to answer it.. > -------------------------- > It looked more like a nervous "get me outta here" laugh to me. And I > didn't > see him pointing to the CD. They were looking eye to eye, exchanging > "words" I guess you could say. Then she just walked away. Gone. Didn't > look like much fun was occuring. Something happened for sure...we just > won't know what exactly it was unless ET, Access Hollywood or Inside > Edition > does a story on it...hehe. > Derrick Watch the performance again - Conan picks up the CD, points at something on the back and they chat. It didn't look heated at all. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:39:16 EST From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] what happened on conan... ok WOW... I've never seen so much pure speculation based on literally 30 seconds of television footage. I know that if somebody watched my body language and movements for 30 seconds they could get a whole bunch of weird shit out of it that's totally out of context and irrelevant. Frankly, if Jewel was gonna have "words" with Conan I doubt she'd do it on the air in front of two other guests... that would be extremely unclassy and in very poor taste... And besides that, she didn't look like she was having "words" with him in the first place.. it looked perfectly civilized from what I could see. I think the only thing we can infer from the whole performance is that she was tired and would rather have been somewhere else - understandably. The rest of it is pure speculation and is getting to the point of being ridiculous and just funny. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:46:29 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] Re: SS I don't know what she thinks of it, but she should get behind it with a bit more enthusiasm as it really is the only truly commercial cut on the cd as far as I can see. 'Jesus Loves You' is in my opinion the strongest studio cut, but I can't imagine it as a single. Is it a great song? Well, probably not a great one, but a very good one. It would be a commercial mistake for her to drop it at any point on the tour unless the "This Way" cd just dies and she ends up playing shed dates for the faithful, a circumstance I don't imagine happening. As for it being a studio only song, well, a lot of bands (most of them veterans) play far more intricate and complex songs than 'Standing Still' with remarkable aplomb live; look at U2, Asia, Steely Dan, Yes, King Crimson and to a lesser degree REM. All you need is a skilled, proficient band and it falls into place. Maybe Jewel is just discouraged with how the song is being received; maybe she just thinks WE don't like it. That, and her band, might be depressing her right now. Received: from smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.178) by storefull-615.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) id 7B83912F; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:28:56 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: space_bandits@webtv.net Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [66.89.201.78]) by smtpin-101-10.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 497FF198; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:28:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP2RiRj011292; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) with SMTP id fAP2RbNP011288; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:37 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:14 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP2RBRj011244 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16/submit) id fAP2RAMV011242 for jewel-outgoing; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail2.wnt.com.br (fire18.wnetrj.com.br [200.184.144.18]) by smoe.org (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta16) with ESMTP id fAP2QxRj011232 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:27:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from feliz.wnt.com.br (mail.wnt.com.br [192.168.255.1] (may be forged)) by mail2.wnt.com.br (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fAP5Rad15918 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:27:37 -0500 Received: from Antonio (fire174.wnetrj.com.br [200.184.144.174]) by feliz.wnt.com.br (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fAP1aZM08722 for ; Sat, 24 Nov 2001 23:36:36 -0200 Message-ID: <00ae01c17557$71522d20$1853140a@wnetrj.com.br> From: "FabioJJ" To: Subject: [EDA] SS Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 00:18:12 -0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I don't know, but do you guys think Jewel doesn't like SS? I mean, all she had to say about it was "I said it all in the song". I believe Jewel will play this song seldomly in the tour. Maybe only in the beginning. It's not a great song. And yes, like someone else said, it's a total studio song. Fabio >> www.geocities.com/fabiojj <|> BRASIL <|> Jewel+Sarah << >> www.jewelbrasil.f2s.com <|> BRASIL <|> Fa-clube Jewel << >> www.jeweljk.com <|>JEWEL <|> official website << >> music <|> STANDING STILL <|> Jewel <|> THIS WAY << >> http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp << ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:56:38 -0500 (EST) From: space_bandits@webtv.net Subject: [EDA] re: what happened on conan... Steve... Why 'understandably'? Thats what I'm not getting in this entire discourse. Why she should be tired 'understanably', or sick of the song 'understandably' or wanting to get out of there 'understandably'. I don't understand any of it!! Help :-) Sean ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:14:33 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] is it necessary? Is it necessary to analyze why jewel was in a bad mood, or even IF she was in a bad mood? Is it necessary to determine that she hates singing Standing Still, and that she's uncomfortable in short skirts? (Just for the record she's worn mini skirts many times before and never looked the least bit uncomfortable with herself) We don't know her. We may THINK we do, but in reality we just know a face. a voice. the music. But do we know her deepest thoughts? her innermost feelings at any given moment? Only one person can know what she thinks and feels for sure, and that's HERSELF. Let's please stop trying to psychoanalyze her based on facial expressions or whatever that was shown on 5 minutes of TV. Also, Is it necessary to assume that she's not happy with her new band? Or even be wondering why Steve Poltz isn't playing in her band, and wondering whether or not they're even friends anymore because he's not in her band? I have 2 things to say about *that*... 1)Steve has a singing/songwriting career of his own... he cant just spend the rest of his life being in Jewel's shadow, when he can be pursuing an extremely successful solo career. 2)Her management team most likely decides on a tour band, not Jewel. I'm getting tired of reading post after post "I can tell jewel's not happy with her band. she should find a new band" and "I can tell jewel was in a bad mood." "maybe she had an argument with ty" and "jewel probably was self conscious wearing that short skirt" reading posts like that over and over gets pretty old. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #606 ***************************