From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #588 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, November 18 2001 Volume 06 : Number 588 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: ALISA ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] RE: [EDA] next single ["New World Warehouse" ] [EDA] Weekend show, etc. ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] sales estimation? ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] Lewis Vs. Rahman & Jewel! [ZZdeMosq@aol.com] [EDA] Jewel's slipping in the Z100 Vote ["Larry G." Subject: [EDA] NJC: ALISA I think others would apprecaite it as well as I do, that if you're going to send a post that has absolutely nothing at all to do with Jewel, PLEASE use NJC in the subject. This will allow those not wishing to read non-Jewel related posts to delete the messages. Now, on to my reply.... - --- I'll correct you Alisa, since I'm already replying anyway...here we go... :-) - -------------------- >i think that posting our opinions are just fine and dandy... but derrick >just does in an attacking way. i mean i put up my this way review, >which was totally positive, and he comes back at me saying how i said i >didnt want it to be an oh my god oh my god review and then thats all it >ended up being. - -------------------- I think posting opinions is fine and dandy too...unfortunately others don't think it is though, so I'm sure we'll both get flame letters as a result of our opinionated posts. Do I care? Nope. I never said your review *wasn't* postive. And all it DID end up being was an OMG OMG post....you even said it yourself...it was POSITIVE. >so i asked him why he insists on being so negative towards >me... he replied saying that i was the one being negative cus i used the >word dont 3 times in one sentence, now seriously... what kind of >bullshit is that? oh well, i know derrick hates me, i dunno why, he has >since my first week on this list. oh well... - ---------------------- You didn't *ask* me anything. You *said* (assumed) I was being negative. Yet there wasn't one negative thing I said in my reply to you. (yes I still have a copy of it too) :-) AND, I don't hate you Alisa. I never said I did. But when you bash someone you don't know *at all*, then of course I'm going to come back with something...especially when most of the things you say are totally made up. - ------------------------- >i wasnt gonna reply about you derrick to the whole list, but if you >insist on bothering me constantly privately, and nothing i do gets >through to you that i dont want you emailing me anymore, no matter how >many times i tell you to leave me alone you never stop... so i figure it >doesnt make any difference if i post to the list or to you! - ------------------------ I never said I insisted on anything...again, you're making things up. And I never write you any *more* than you write me. Seems like you would have figured this out by now. You write me, I write you. That's not "bothering you". Or, IF it is, then my dear, you are bothering ME just as much. See, I play fair. And it does make a difference when you post all your stuff to the list...cause see, then I'm going to reply back to you publicly as well. And if we keep doing this it's going to piss off alot of people, and Mike may not like that. Also it fills up the list server quicker. So think about that before you go through with your carefree attitude. The difference in you and me is that I'm not the one initiating this...you are. I always return you letters privately, when they are written to me that way. So you decide to go public. So, I'll follow suit. What's your next move going to be? :-) You're in the driver's seat here. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:00:16 -0600 From: "New World Warehouse" Subject: RE: [EDA] next single Well if the record companies would go back to the way The Beatles released their stuff, it probably would be released that soon. Of course that would mean she'd have to start having another album ready within a few months. I really think that had a lot to do with how they got popular so fast. They released stuff so quick that you didn't have a CHANCE to get tired of a certain song. These days, they are all about milking a single, so I wouldn't expect the next one till closer to maybe the end or mid December at the earliest, maybe even January. I'm kinda hoping it's one of her more different tunes, like Serve The Ego or maybe Do You Want to Play. Maybe break a little of the "simple folk girl" stereotype she gets. I WISH Love Me Just Leave Me Alone was closer to the old way she played it (say, about Woodstock / Storytellers era). I really feel that had a punchier sound and would make a stronger single. She kind of diluted it with the slower intro. A lot of people would not give it time to kick in on the radio. They'd hear that slow part and change it. It just takes a little too long to develop. Lew www.coilback.com Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:50:05 -0200 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: [EDA] next single When do you guys think Jewel should release the next single? Maybe she should perform it on Dec 2nd, at the Vh1 awards. Is it too soon? Fabio - the Brazilian angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:17:33 -0500 From: "Shannon L. Mackie" Subject: [EDA] Jewel AIM Icons Okay I know you guys are getting tired of me posting about this but in addition to my Jewel and EDA icon - I just finished my Steve Poltz one :) So remember if you want any of those or all of those please let me know. I think I'll give my Photoshop a rest for a while ;-) .:.:haizee:.:. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:19:42 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] Weekend show, etc. Well I've read about 3 or 4 variations now of what went down this morning. First, there's Jewel being upset about something, and Everybody Needs Someone... starting, 8 seconds later then SS starts. Second, she only played SS. Third, she also played Break Me. 4th, the weather announcement started, she got pissed, then SS started. Whichever the case, I just think it's a little funny how so many stories develop from the same show. :-) Here, the show I guess came on at 6:00am since by 7:55am Jewel was in about the last minute of SS. That's when I turned it on. She did look a bit upset but I just figured it's cause she'd rather be doing anything other than playing for a mostly sleeping TV audience at 7:00am. Doesn't sound like "fun" to me. But after reading all these posts, I guess we're up to a variety of reasons why she may have been upset. Oh well. I'm sure she'll be alright. From the part I heard, it seemed like I was watching the Tonight Show again. I have to admit, the band sounds consistent. I think they have that song down now at least. Anyhow, if she really DID play Break Me earlier on, then did anyone else see that? I've only seen one post stating she did, and one other asking when that was on. So we're at a 50/50 split right now....hehe. Anyone else see it? I'd be more interested in knowing how that song sounded, rather than Standing Still. Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:28:50 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] sales estimation? Gosh, I go away for a day and upon my return, I find out I'm the talk of the list once again...hehe...I find that amusing. Moving on.... I was browsing a few larger music stores this evening, no particular reason since I already have both Jewel's and Shakira's new CD's...but while there, I walked by the areas where those 2 CD's are. Sadly to say, it didn't look as if anyone was buying Jewel's CD. :-( The shelves were pretty full, no less than 90% at any given store. On the other hand, Shakira was sold out at 3 of them, and at the 4th, it looked like at least half were gone. And this was in a store that reserved like 5 "sections" for her. Top to bottom, 5 columns I mean. So if this is any indication of what the sales are doing, I would venture to say Shakira is on her way to being the top Billboard spot for this week. Only Garth Brooks may edge her out...his are selling good too. I'd be happy just to see Jewel debut in the top 10. I think that'll be higher than any of her other CD's have right? What did Spirit come in at? I don't recall now. Anyhow, maybe it's just this area, but I just have this feeling it may take awhile, as PoY did, to get the sales going strong for This Way. Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 03:32:02 EST From: ZZdeMosq@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Lewis Vs. Rahman & Jewel! Hi Guys, After being written off by nearly everyone, Lennox Lewis delivered a vicious right hand to KO Hasim Rahman in the 4th Round to become The Heavyweight champion for the Third time! Jewel did a nice turn at the National Anthem, a little nasal though. :-) Ring Announcer Jimmy Lennon Jr. also mentioned the new CD. Nice PR push guys! Pete ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 00:42:14 -0800 From: "Larry G." Subject: [EDA] Jewel's slipping in the Z100 Vote As of a few minutes ago, Jewel has only the slenderest of leads in the Z100 whom do you want to hear the most at jingle ball poll. If you care: http://www.z100.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 06:43:04 -0800 (PST) From: Michiel van Gorkum Subject: [EDA] WALK away with the new Jewel cd!!!!!!! Hello Jewelfans, Finally a review from a dutch fan who got the new Jewel cd 2 days ago. When i arrived from my work i searched my mailbox for the new jewelcd. and Yes it arrived........ We leavin4 leavin again!!!!!!! The new cd is so cool TIll we run out of the road is one of the 5 outstanding tracks and i think it4s one of the best songs on this cd !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The lyrics are phenomenal and the instruments are so cool!! the melody the song, everything really rocks!!!!!! I like this song as it is Jewel at her best, honest great lyrics and above all down to earth. HEY MAN THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL LIFE:.....we are leaving again.......leaving again..........!!! The other song i greatly admire is this way the titletrack of the cd!!!!!!!!! I think jewel really give a great cd. THe mix of lyrics, words and instruments really surprised me. Every song has his own story, and i see pictures on the wall of the great performer Jewel painting her words into pictures. I think Cleveland is also a great song, it is catchy it is optimistic. The new Jewelcd is something unique. This cd is so much better or should i say different to Spirit. I think Jewel used new styles, new way to make music. I4ll dance for you, and you will dance for me. Who says can4t serve/??? it would be my pleasure. The lyrics of Serve the ego. A great song that Jewel once performed on Letterman if i remember right. Every song has a vibe that shows to me how talented jewel is. I love also Jesus love you, i can4t judge other than this cd of Jewel is something she didn4t expect to be so good. I rate it as ***** stars , Jewel is back and i love it!!!!!!!!!!! everybody needs someone sometime shows jewel expression how people need love and that they should rely on eachother. Jewel is phenomenal........... I am playing the new cd over and over again. I think it4s great!!!!!!!! greetings, michiel Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:48:08 EST From: HMN333@aol.com Subject: [EDA] USA Weekend Interview "JEWEL'S DIAMOND IN THE ROUGH" He's a lot country; she's a lot rock 'n' roll; the unlidely pairing of folk's sweetest singer and bull riding's toughest champion. BY DENNIS McCAFFERTY She's a pop singer whose ethereal style strikes that elusive balance between artistic and commercial success. He's a legend in the most rough-and-tumble of worlds: progressional bull riding. Is this the stuff of lasting romance? Apparently so. Recording artist Jewel and nine-time pro rodeo/bull riding champion Ty Murray have been together for more three years now - a long time for a young celeb couple. But beyond impressions of disparate universes, the couple has much in common. Both grew up with an appreciation of hard work; Jewel survived a hardscrabble upbringing in Homer, Alaska, then lived in her van as she pursued her musical career; Murray lived the genuine cowboy's life, helping his dad break colts on their Arizona ranch. And both are published authors, with Jewel's A Night without Armor (HARPERCOLLINS, $11) being one of the most popular books of poetry ever, at more than 800,000 in sales, and Murray capturing his reflections on rodeo in the recent Roughstock: The Mud, the Blood and the Beer (HEQUIMEDIA, $29.95). And both are busy these days. Jewel's new CD, This Way, was out Tuesday. Next SUnday, Murray will star in a rare major network broadcast of probull riding, as NBC presents the Bud Light World Challenge, pitting the world's top 45 bull riders against the top 30 bulls. Murray, widely considered the Michael Jordan of rodeo, will be the biggest star there. Between recording and bull riding sessins, Jewel and Murray recently shared their thoughts with USA WEEKEND on the finer points of rodeo, ranching and Songwriting 101. With the national TV exposure, pro bull riding is making a splash. Must seem like a long way from the days when people joked that you get a feww pack of chewing tobacco with the price of admission, huh? JEWEL: Some think it's just about some dumb guys getting on the bull and hanging on. They don't see the athletics involved, the smarts these guys have. You have to anticipate every move the bull makes. People who just look to "hang on" get killed. Now, it's getting huge. It fills 18,000 to 20,000 seats on a weekend night. It appeals to all kinds of sports fans: the skateboarders, the snowboarders, the NASCAR people... MURRAY: There are athletics involved, like she says. I did most every sport you could think of: football, baseball, basketball, wrestling. I even got into gymnastics because I thought it would improve my balance and coordination. When it comes to the stereotypes, there are still a lot of misconceptions. Bull riders are real honest people. What you see is what you get. But people who aren't familiar with rodeos think we only listen to country music, which isn't true. I'll listen to anything: Springsteen, Tina Turner... .. and Jewel, of course. MURRAY: Yeah! To the point where you've co-written a song with her that appears on the new CD called Until We Run Out of Road? JEWEL: Yes. We wrote it from his perspective. Rodeo and rock 'n' roll are similar - a lot of guys just beating their brains out, barely making a living at it. Few make it big. So we wrote about it, and he's a songwriter now. MURRAY: It was fun. At first, we figured the two of us would be the only people to hear the song. I have a little cabin down by the river and we stay there a lot. We were just sitting around the fire on New Year's Eve and she always has her guitar with her and she's always writing poems and songs in her notebook. So she goes, "why don't you and me write a song so I can show you the process?" I didn't think I was cut out for that, but she said, "Let's just do it, just for fun." At first, it seemed like just goofing around. But we really tried to write a good song after a while, and we worked on it all night. So, is this your second career? MURRAY: I don't think so! It was hard. The only reason we were a good team is that she knows how to write songs and I knew what we were writing about. Jewel seems to be fitting just great into your ranch in Stephenville, Texas, and the cowboy life. MURRAY: Yeah. The second time we got together, I took her on a camping trip with an old friend of mine. I had no idea about her growing up in a rugged place in Alaska. So we packed way up in the Sierra on horseback and slept by a stream and fished. The way she grew up, she made that look like a SUnday afternoon picnic. Same with the ranch. I have friends in New York who think they're on Mars when they get there. She can relax there with the grass and trees and the stream and write songs. JEWEL: It's a lot of work at the ranch, but it's fun. You have to earn your respect there. It's not just given to you. They don't let you be a brat there. I help build fences or weld pieces of pipe together. He has 2,000 acres. The truth is, rodeo cowboys aren't necessarily good at ranching or training horses. He's been teaching me to heel calves, which is unusual for guys in his profession. Really? You'd think that would be right up their alley. Jewel: That would be like saying an editor is good at writing. Many aren't Hey, no argument there! Sounds like you're ready to ride a bull, Jewel. Have you ever given one a spin? Jewel: No, I would killed instantly. He wouldn't let me if I wanted to. MURRAY: That's not me being a chauvinist. It's just a fact. Saying a woman can ride bulls is like saying a woman can play linebacker in the NFL. It's as dangerous a thing as you can do.. There was also a nice picture of the two of them labelled "Ty Murray, 32, and Jewel, 27: He's written a song with her-but she's not about to hop onto a bucking bronco" ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #588 ***************************