From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #527 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, November 1 2001 Volume 06 : Number 527 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] njc: don't be hypocrites ["cymbaline" ] [EDA] WOAH Dennis ! WOAH Everyday Assholes (Loved that one) ["Antonio Miq] [EDA] NJC:activity vs. boredom ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] RE: NJC: our pal...hanging by a thread ["Joe Kunis" ] [EDA] Derrick ["Kris Kelley (KiKi)" ] Re: [EDA] potatoes in jeans ["Kerri" ] FW: [EDA] Derrick ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] This Way [Minnie822@aol.com] [EDA] jewel chat on aol [Minnie822@aol.com] Re: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! ["jamie mathews" ] [EDA] AOL Chat ["Kerri" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:13:16 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] njc: don't be hypocrites guys, you are jumping down derrick's throat for being honest and stating his thoughts (last time i checked, there was this thing called "free speech", btw!) about particular topics. Okay so he said some things about some person... and y'all are bashing him for doing that... when in fact y'all are doing the same exact thing by DOING that! don't be hypocrites. and instead of flooding everyone's e-mail boxes with pretty much the same things posted over and over, do it privately. some people get charged for downloading e-mail. you guys keep it up and this list will be shut down again. cymbie tree hugging angel who believes derrick has a right to free speech - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:21:28 -0400 From: "Antonio Miquilena" Subject: [EDA] WOAH Dennis ! WOAH Everyday Assholes (Loved that one) I'm not the oldest Jewel fan, but then again a fan, and though I'm not obsessed I love her to death, and I'm not the oldest one in the list, actually, I have less than 2 years here, I barely post...but I do feel the need to take some time and congratulate Dennis for his post, a strong sense of reality and maturity are present within each word of it. And though perhaps it will get Derrick's tits in a hurry -since obviously he will feel insulted *from what I've seen*- it's likely to be true. I don't know Derrick personally, and I really haven't seen that much trouble caused by him, actually, since I joined, the Nashville cr*p, and this one, but yet, from 1000+ members on this list, when more than 20 active posters wants you out it must be for a reason, they didn't come up with it out of thin air, but is that the right approach? Don't think so. Yes, Derrick's guts are quite admirable, since that's a quality I seek in a person, friends and people in general, the strong attitude that speak his mind and doesn't care about others opinions, many people here get upset about many things, many posts, and many happenings within the Jewel range, but noone is brave enough to speak them out loud, "HERE IS THE PROBLEM, I FEEL THIS AND THAT, NOW DEAL WITH IT" for that, and only that, I do admire Derrick. Advice, be more calm and positive, but never ever stop speaking your mind, because in my tiny little world, that's a part of self-respect, personality, and soul, and without it...you will simply suck -a lil more, hehehe, joking- Now, people let's be mature here, I'm voicing my humble opinion -As I've seen many others doing it as well-, I joined this list for the sole purpose to be informed about Jewel's happenings thru other fans of her...to discuss her, her music, her talent, her actions, etc. Not to be reading more than 3 Digest (with 10 emails min each) filled up with a bunch OF CRAP, I'm noone to judge here, so I try to stay away from problems. Though I find the post of Dennis to be strong, I think his final advice to kick Derrick out of the list is rather "third world countryish" and mmm...radical. He is a Fan, and he is a member -and has been for quite a while- he should have the chance to voice his mind whenever he feels like it....you are the ones that let the post gets to you, and get upset over something that's not necessarily towards you...the argument was between them, not the whole list...perhaps he choose the wrongs ways to communicate it, who knows. NOBODY HERE IS GOD, AND NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT ANSWER... SO EVERYONE...LISTEN TO ME...STOP THE BITCHING AND THE ARGUING, OR I WILL BUY AN MP5 AND I WILL CREATE SO MANY HOLES IN EACH BODY !!!! JESUS CHRIST! JUST SHUT UP...MOVE ON...AND LET'S CONTINUE WITH LIFE! P.S: There, see...you got me all worked up! Dammit! :) Derrick, They hate you sooooooooooo much, because they just love you too muchhhhhhhh as well. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:29:33 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] NJC:activity vs. boredom Dan: > In situations like this, more than likely the one who starts > the issues up is seeking attention, thinking that any type of atantion is > good, no matter the reputation that comes along with it. - ------- Actually the one who started this was seeking an active list where people actually participate and try to end the overwhelming boredom occuring as of late. (others can back me up...they THANKED me for bringing "life" back to the list) And it WORKED seeing as how 50+ list members all submitted their name and age. To those people, I want to say thanks for participating. It was the most successful thread that's come to the list in quite some time. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:35:29 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] NJC I wrote this to derrick, and we both think y'all should read this: "derrick, some people really take internet life waaaayyy to seriously. like you said, don't like something, delete it. there is no need for all these people to say the same things over and over about you. its like THEY have free speech. but you don't, cause you're an "ass". but thats how they WANT to percieve you. And by endlessly arguing and all this stuff, they're taking internet life too seriously. They're the one's who started the fight. Not you. You spoke out of honesty, and they chose to backlash. They didn't have to. Like with Michiel, I always bashed him for his posts cause i always percieved him as a psychotic fan. Thats how i wanted to percieve him. Then I felt really bad, I emailed him privately, apologized... and you know what? he's a pretty cool guy. I started to look for the good in everyone this past year. Its so nice to be able to do that. If only more people can do that" cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:35:31 -0500 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: [EDA] RE: NJC: our pal...hanging by a thread Not mean...just don't insinuate that other people are lying and expect not to get called on it. Especially when you are lying yourself or can't or don't want to remember claims you have made in the past. This cute try at deflection and gee...who me(start trouble)? attitude of yours is very transparent...most of us know you love to start crap even if you deny it a thousand times. I'm not into censorship so I'm not into seeing you get tossed...see how mean I am? For someone who is always putting people down for their "wrong assumptions", you are no better when it comes to reading people's intentions. Joe > >And people are saying *I'm* the one being mean around here??? LOL Looks >like I should be the least of everyone's concerns. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:52:45 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: [EDA] potatoes in jeans I'm just wondering.... what DOES a potato shoved into jeans look like? cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:00:35 -0500 From: "Kris Kelley (KiKi)" Subject: [EDA] Derrick I'm 21 if anyone still cares....I sure picked a good week to be sick in bed, haven't checked my mail in 2 days. Derrick, I agree that your posts can be annoying and that little things get you pissed off, and you love to start a fight. I also don't think that booting Derrick off the list is the best idea. Derrick is like you're young son or little brother, he does this shit to get attention, and everytime he posts something we give it to him, I'm giving it to him right now, this whole list is always talking about derrick when he does something and that's just fueling his fire, it's just like when that annoying guy who was always misquoting and misspelling things (Can't remember the name he was using) if we had just ignored him he would have gone away, but on one on this list can just ignore someone who is intentionally trying to piss people off. That is the real issue, not derricks mindless rants about whatever bug is up his ass. ~kris~ the singing NH angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:10:33 -0500 From: "Kerri" Subject: Re: [EDA] potatoes in jeans HaHaHa Thank you for breaking up this endless mess with random humor. - -Kerri "But don't wander too far, my one constant star. Darkness exists, except where you are. My feet are filled with wandering they follow your own. Everywhere you are feels like home..." Jewel, Last Dance Rodeo http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/dancingangel Listen to the new Jewel single http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 12:23:00 -0600 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: FW: [EDA] Derrick > Derrick, I agree that your posts can be annoying and that little things > get you pissed off, - --------------- Little things never get me pissed off. I can't even remember the last time something pissed me off. Honestly. No idea. On the list or off. BECAUSE I have a sense of humor, and don't take life too seriously. Also, the only people who even COULD piss me off are people I actually care about. You see, if an a$$hole says something to me about any topic, I don't really give it much attention. Thus, no pissing off occurs. If a best friend however made some rude remark to me, it *might* have some impact. Of course, that never happens. and you love to start a fight. - ------------------------ Nope, i don't. And I really haven't started any fights. The other EDA's have. If I posted once, as I did, and people replied to me PRIVATELY as they should (if at all), then NONE of this list banter would even be occuring right now. NONE of it. So don't blame me for something I can't control. My one e-mail wasn't nothing compared to the 100's we've gotten from everyone else. > Derrick is like you're young son or little brother, he does this shit to > get attention, - ------------------------------------------------ I'll try this again...I wrote the age/name post to start some activity on the list again....cause it's DEAD. 2 weeks before Jewel's CD, and it's DEAD. That's really sad. So I did it not for attention (I didn't care if a single person wrote ME back or not), but for list activity. > and everytime he posts something we give it to him, I'm giving it to him > right > now, this whole list is always talking about derrick when he does > something > and that's just fueling his fire, > That's the predictablity factor. > it's just like when that annoying guy who > was always misquoting and misspelling things (Can't remember the name he > was using) if we had just ignored him he would have gone away, but on one > on this list can just ignore someone who is intentionally trying to piss > people off. > I agree, only I wasn't trying to intentionally piss off anyone. Not even accidently. Unlike some others have in the past. I could get pissed off cause I see a red spot of paint on the ground. Makes no sense to, I know. But I could. That's the problem, no one can control the actions of others. I had no way of knowing what reaction (if any) would result. I suspected the same usual repliers would reply again with their same usual remarks, as they did. But I had no way of knowing for sure a single person would reply. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:27:39 EST From: Minnie822@aol.com Subject: [EDA] This Way hello angels I CAN'T WAIT FOR HER NEW CD! TODAY STARTS THE BIG COUNTDOWN FOR ME! 13 days! YAHHOOOOEEEE! love you all so much long live jewel..... please everyone calm down! diana the writiing angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:31:44 EST From: Minnie822@aol.com Subject: [EDA] jewel chat on aol hello angels I'm not going to be able to join the chat tonight on aol so i was wondering if someone could be kind enough to maybe transcribe the conversation to the list so everyone who was not able to be a part of it could know what questions were asked and their answers... if that's possible love ya diana the wriitng angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:26:00 -0600 From: "jamie mathews" Subject: Re: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! Amen, Mike. Jamie Mathews http://www.geocities.com/greyjamie http://www.geocities.com/jeweltabs >From: Mike Connell >To: "Karacostas, Derrick W." , jewel@smoe.org >Subject: NJC: Re: [EDA] NJC: Point proven...thanks! >Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 12:36:28 -0500 > >To the list I say.... > >Go straight to hell Derrick! > >Why don't you also tell them about your fucking history of driving me and >someone who works for Jewel nuts with your inane and endless emails and >rants about whatever bug happens to be up your ass at the time. (and there >has been a WHOLE hive of them over the years) > >I really do not care if what you posted about today is true or not, could >not care less at all. Yes, maybe you have gotten some positive replies >about this one today, but do you have any iota of a clue as to how many >emails I have gotten over the years about what an ass you are? and how I >deal with it? > >I'm fed up with your "horsehit," (as you put it about what I call it) and >am hereby officially asking you to leave this list in front >of everyone. I've already wasted too much of my time and life on you and >am not going to do it any more. Life is too short. > >There I called your bluff. > >I apologize to all EDAs old and new about this rant of mine, but trust me, >you have no clue at all as to what I and a few others behind the scenes >have gone through with this guy over the years, especially recently, and >other of course pests I've had to deal with and spend time and money on. > >I am fed up with it amd am not going to take it anymore, nor am going to be >Mister Niceguy about it any longer. > >As for the Harris' "Sit on it for a day" rule before sending a post one >wrote in anger and might regret later, well....I will not ever regret this. > >Again, go straight to hell Derrick. > >Mike > >At 12:10 PM 10/31/01, you wrote: >>Since Mike thinks my little plan is "horseshit"...the thing regarding >>Sheila and Ciara, I just wanted to say thanks to everyone whose replied to >>me (you know who you are), all postively I might add, with their comments >>regarding this matter. >>I think the point has been proven, and whether Mike agrees or not is his >>choice. >>He's entitled to his opinion of course. Any further matters regarding >>this >>will be dealt with between "Sheila" and myself privately. By the way, the >>only negative, and downright RUDE post I got as a result of this was from >>Mike. Seems as if the days of old are gone now...sorry Kevin, I tried. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:38:54 -0500 From: "jake skyles" Subject: [EDA] send emails privatly please Everyone that has something to say to Derrik or Mike or anyone else please send it to them personally. Only send stuff to the list that has relevance to everyone. I talked to Derrik and he said he is only posting back to people on the list that posting things to him on the list in the first place. If you send it to him privatly he will reply privatly. maybee this will help. Jake _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 14:47:39 -0500 From: "Kerri" Subject: [EDA] AOL Chat Does anyone know how they pick the questions asked? I don't have AOL anymore, but I did for a past chat and all I can say is that I was very disappointed with the questions. No new information came from the chat. I knew the answer to every question, I could have answered for Jewel. I know the are EDAs on AOL, I hope your questions get through to Jewel. - -Kerri "But don't wander too far, my one constant star. Darkness exists, except where you are. My feet are filled with wandering they follow your own. Everywhere you are feels like home..." Jewel, Last Dance Rodeo http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/dancingangel Listen to the new Jewel single http://www2.fanscape.com/jewel/streetteam/standingstillaudiord.asp ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #527 ***************************