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Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] WARNING: spoilage of the new album (sort of) ["Elizabeth Nguyen" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel breathing [Jason Quattrini ] [EDA] Re: NJC: a long goodbye (Long) ["George Rue" ] [EDA] VOTE FOR JEWEL-- for me, please :) [RachKat926@aol.com] [EDA] This Way - beware, album spoilers. [Fredsteve@aol.com] [EDA] Lenedra Carroll Interviewed by Jewel ["Juliane Souza" Subject: [EDA] WARNING: spoilage of the new album (sort of) Here's my take on the CD. Warning, if you don't want to hear new info on the new CD, like how the songs sound, do no read further. 1. Standing Still What can I say? It's the same song we've been hearing on the radio and everywhere else. 2. Jesus Love You Okay. I liked this version better than the live one. It has a few more instruments and it seems like Jewel was taking her time more. Overall, I like this version. A little electric guitar gives it a little "edge," and even a little rock-ish. Towards the end, she does a little scratchy voice thing. 3. Everybody Needs Someone Sometime If you can believe, this song is even more "line-dance"-esque than her live versions. I can totally see line-dancers in a video for this song. It's kinda bass drum heavy in the beginning. It's just different. And it does sound a little like a drum machine, but hey, Jewel says it wasn't. Also, it's got the "country" guitar sound. I don't know what it's called or how to describe it, but it's that twangy guitar sound. 4. Break Me It's "Break Me," but with some drums and synthesizer-esque sounds. It's very nice actually. Very calm. It's beautiful. I like it. I like it a lot. 5. Do You Want To Play? OH no! I can't believe it. Now, it's strictly my dang opinion, but oh man, I do not like it. I've played the original Do You Want To Play to my friends and roommates (who are not Jewel fans) and they actually liked it. They said they could totally dig that song. Ummm, not this version I'm afraid. It's just ... I'm at a loss for words. I dunno, just ...eck. Okay, well, it's not that bad, but I certainly like the original version. I think this new version will grow on me, but it's lost it's semi-rockness. Oh yeah, she's adds some words where she used to just go "ohiohoihoooo." The latter part of the song is also a little weird. The part where she normally goes "don't think too hard, don't think too fast. dont' ever say quit what you can't take back, etc" Hehe, but she did add a "who gives a..." hehe, nice touch. 6. Til We Run Out of Road This is the first time I've heard the entire song. It sounds like the version on the PBR CD. It's a pretty good song. Some might complain it's country-ish, but ::shrug::. It has the "country" guitar in it, that's why. Hehe. But it's nice ... like a love song type. 7. Serve The Ego Umm, it's still about the same. It didn't change much. 8. This Way Hmm, the infamous song no one's heard. Well, I gotta say it's pretty good. It's a love song. The chorus is something like "promise me you'll stay this way." It has a little of the same feel as "Standing Still." I dunno. 9. Cleveland Yes. It is the same song as "You're in Cleveland Today." Hehe, but it now has a country twang I feel. That's not neccessarily a bad thing, but it's a little different than the original. Jewel's a bit more slow in this version. Just the vocals. Not necessarily the music, but her vocals are slower. Jewel just takes her time I suppose. It sounds pretty nice. 10. I Won't Walk Away I like. I like. I can hear the lyrics clearly unlike the ones from Humphrey's. I like. 11. Love Me Just Leave Me Alone Ummm, got a little twangy guitar thing again. Reminds of like blues- rock a little. She does still have her, according to Scott, "Janis Japlan scream." As you get further in, it gets a little more rock- esque, but you still hear the twangyness in some parts. Towards the end, I get the good old feeling of LMJLMA. So yay, for LMJLMA. Hehe, and she does a little laugh/giggle at the end ... it's so cute! 12. New Wild West I kind of like the live version better. The beat in the background kind of bothers me, but oh well. I'm not saying I don't like it, but that's that. Hehe, it sound so ironic. Well, ironic is not the word for it. It sounds like a parody type thing. Like, it's making fun of those epic country type songs. It's good though. I like it. 13. Gray Matter ::sigh:: it's Gray Matter. It's the same one she's been playing since Jewelstock. But I have to say, I like it when Jewel takes her time in her songs. Am I making sense? When she takes the songs slowly and enunciates and sings a little more slowly, the quality is just greater. Doesn't matter if it's a rock song or a slow song, if she takes her time a little, it just sounds great. 14. Sometimes It Be That Way This is one of my favorite songs so it being on the album just makes me happy. Plus, it's practically the same thing we've been hearing from her lately when she sings this song. She's been singing it like this for a while so it doesn't sound all that different to me. This version is slower than when she originally sang it, so yeah, that's the sound of SIBTW on This Way. Overall: I like it I think. At first when just scanning the tracks I got a little worried. The sounds were different, the songs were done differently and I was a little shocked. But then I listened to it more carefully and found that I did like some of the new things and some of them weren't that different than I initially thought. Not that it is bad or good, the CD was more produced than I had imagined. But it doesn't matter. The finished product is a pretty good album. Also, if you didn't pre-order it and want to hear some of the tracks, email me and I can help you out. Okay. This email's long enough. ~Elizabeth, the tennis-ball-whacking angel Thus conscience does make cowards of us all; And thus the native hue of resolution Is sicklied o'er with the pale cast of thought - Shakespeare, "Hamlet" Perfect for the Jewel Kilcher Fan! Get your Free E-mail at http://jewel.zzn.com ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:05:57 EDT From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Lenedra question Hey, I was just wondering what Lenedras book is about? I'm going to check it out anyway, but I was just wondering. Love Megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:49:51 +0100 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: [EDA] This Way available for pre-order in the UK Hi Guys, As I suspected, www.play247.com are now offering This Way for pre-order, for #11.49 shipped within the UK. I think that'll work out cheaper than importing it yourself, and you should have it within a couple of days of the release. I believe that it's the same price within Europe too. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:17:45 -0400 From: "Shannon Mackie" Subject: [EDA] Pre-Ordering This Way Whoever pre-ordered This Way and already has it - please tell me how to do it!!!! I went to Amazon.com and you can pre-order it but it doesn't appear that you get it any sooner - please let me know!!! Hazy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:26:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Quattrini Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel breathing Actually, if you listen to most any of the songs, you can hear the breathing... and guitar finger slideing somtimes too. Every once in a while I'll listen to music "differently" to see what nuances there are, and you'd be suprised what you can notice if you pay attention enough. Some songs (not Jewel necessarily) you can even hear the echo bouncing off the recording studio walls (hafta listen really close though :P) - --- JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com wrote: > I hear breathing..I guess they wanted it there or else they > would've > edited it out. (No sig for the moment :( ) Jason Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 19:27:17 -0400 From: "George Rue" Subject: [EDA] Re: NJC: a long goodbye (Long) To Rowdy: Kinda sad ready your post. But I too, feel the same way. I may not leave the digest. But I'm also searching for the music again. The kind that seems to talk directly to your soul, and makes you feel understood. or at least something that i can relate to. Yes, there once was a time when I only knew a few things about Jewel. I used to just lay on the floor with headphones listening to POY and every little sound she made. The thrill of searching for those live tapes and hearing those rare songs. and loving everything she'd sing. and her cute little stories. Then finding the digest and finding other people that loved the music as much as i did. Then the thrill of seeing Jewel for the first time. I would search for hours reading and learning everything about her. Still loving everything up until Nov 1997. Then somewhere down the line, things changed. Jewel changed, maybe she just grew up and I still wanted the young, naive, modest little star, that would grace the stage alone and proceed to overwhelm us with just her guitar and voice. For me those days are gone, but I will still hang around on the digest, waiting for those small glimpses of the past. Only time will tell ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:16:43 EDT From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: [EDA] VOTE FOR JEWEL-- for me, please :) EVERYONE vote for JEWEL for the VH1 My Music Award. She is up for best female artist. It takes all but 2 seconds to register and vote! Please do so!! I'd appreciate it so much :) http://www.vh1.com/mymusic/2001/poll.jhtml?pollid=MyMusic2001_female thanks guys! ~Rach~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:18:43 EDT From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] This Way - beware, album spoilers. Well... finally I heard the album! I'm gonna go through it track by track, but I have to give my first impression. This is her best album by FAR. The songs are good, it's well produced, and her voice is amazing... better than ever. There's ONE thing i wanted to comment on that relates to Elizabeth's post. She mentioned a lot of the "country-sounding-guitar" (aka slide guitar). Don't let this give you the impression that the songs SOUND country. They don't. It's just a very minor effect. It's kind of like when Sheryl Crow uses country-esque touches in her songs. They aren't country songs.. but there are certain effects that are generally attributed to country music. Ok... on to the track-by-track Standing Still - we all know Jesus Loves You - One of my favourites. Totally enhanced by the instrumentation... I prefer the album version to the acoustic live version. It starts out acoustic, and then builds slowly up to the bridge, where it starts to almost rock out (as Elizabeth said)... one of my favourites lyrically on the album too... really simple and straightforward lyrics.. but oddly powerful. Everybody Needs Someone Sometimes - Pretty much the same as the new live version, but it's a bit better. This is the only song that to me sounds too country. It definitely sounds like a line-dance... something that you might see at "Mack and T's Teen Dance.. featuring Jewel"... The only thing I like is her voice... very strong and full of personality! But it's my least favourite song on the CD. Break Me - Break Me with studio treatment. If you prefer the simple acoustic version you probably won't like it.... I think it's good. Sort of reminds me of Absence of Fear... there's a string arrangement near the end that i really like. Do You Want To Play - Elizabeth said she thought this song was ruined.. but I personally think the opposite. I like the live version, and the song itself was one of my favourite new songs from the Spirit Tour... but the album version, in my opinion, is BETTER than the original. She tries it a different way, as opposed to just the kind of run of the mill electric guitar thing.. and it does become rockish at the end. I think the new version kind of emphasises the melody more too... there's a good guitar solo. Til We Run Out of Road - I like this... I think I've discussed it before. Serve the Ego - I really really love this song. Similar to the new live version - heavy electric guitar and bass.. but contains more kind of strange effects and little things.. hard to explain/describe... You'll see... This Way - This is another song I'm not crazy about (there are only two on this record). I don't mind it.. but it's kind of a cheesy, poppy love song. It's kind of pretty.. and it would be better if the chorus weren't just SO poppy. It sort of reminds me of that Michelle Branch song in that the tune is something so immediately recognizable that it's almost a cliche. but it's not bad.. Cleveland - I always liked this song.. especially the lyrics... some of the images are so simple but so, kind of .. true... Sometimes I find Jewel gets too conveluted in her lyrics.. but the lyrics of this song are totally opposite to that.. All i have to say is this version is KILLER. This is one of the best songs on the album. It has slide guitar but doesn't sound like a country song at all. I Won't Walk Away - very pretty... I like the instrumentation.... this is one of the "atmospheric songs" the rolling stone article was talking about. I thought this would be a single when i heard the live version, but hearing the album version I realise I don't think it will be. Has a nice string arrangement .. it's very soft but you can hear it underneath everything. Love Me Just Leave Me Alone - very true to the ORIGINAL live version. The thing i noticed was that instead of using electric guitar at the beginning like she did live during the Spirit Tour, she reverted to the old acoustic guitar arrangement. The slide guitar at the beginning is cool too. The scream at the end is awesome! New Wild West - One of the best songs on the album. This song, lyrically, is like a political rant. It's VERY dramatic and the production totally emphasises that... also, this song could get kind of boring musically as it's basically the same guitar part repeated in the verses (which are LONG) and then the chorus.. but they really make an effort to make this song musically interesting.. each verse has kind of a different sound on it.. eg: the last verse has kind of a scratchy, heavy cello on it... totally awesome. and there's heavy electric guitar in the chorus. the bridge is also really nice - again with the good, subtle string arrangements. Grey Matter and Sometimes It Be That Way are the same old songs they always were! It's great they're on there! This album is really quite different to anything Jewel has done before. She definitely takes risks on this record.... it's very ambitious musically, in a lot of places.. Whether you think it comes off or not is your own opinion... I definitely think it does... but if you don't you can't accuse her of not trying something new. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:25:08 -0200 From: "Juliane Souza" Subject: [EDA] Lenedra Carroll Interviewed by Jewel Hello sucky EDAs. LOL I don4t know if anyone has posted this but.... if so i4ll post it again. ;) This is from http://www.newworldlibrary.com/ Lenedra J. Carroll is an accomplished businesswoman, singer, artist and author. She is also the manager and mother of recording artist Jewel. She is a compelling speaker, teacher, and performer. Her unique story, engaging wisdom and consummate philosophy of life leave audiences deeply satisfied, renewed and with a clearer vision for their own lives. Over the past several years, Lenedra and Jewel have created a unique partnership to promote positive influence and change from a worldwide platform. Their partnership encompasses several for profit businesses, as well as their humanitarian foundation, Higher Ground for Humanity (HGH). HGH promotes global community and individual action to inspire positive change. Jewel: So - your first book! Congratulations! How did you find the process of writing it? Lenedra: I found writing to be both incredibly easy and incredibly difficult. Long sections seemed to write themselves - which was exhilarating. Then there were the chapters that required many rewrites - that was a lot of work. The workplace section was the most difficult, primarily because there was so much business development taking place while I was working on that section that I had less time to write and it was harder for me to sort out which things would be of interest to readers. There were also projects under development that were not quite ready to be written about, so that added to the challenge of what to cover. Jewel: In a world that places tremendous importance on formal education, most people find it nearly unbelievable that a housewife and artist from Alaska would go on to build such complex business structures with no other business education other than a few community college classes. How did you learn to tap into your native genius for business? What would your advice be to others who feel limited by a lack of formalized education? Lenedra: In many ways it is my lack of education that is my greatest asset because I find it easy to think out of the box, having no preconceptions or pre-training. I tap into the source by using meditation, prayer and silence to access a universally available wisdom and I have developed a wonderful team of experienced advisors. My advice to others who feel limited by lack of formalized education would be to pick up courses on the things that are yours to learn, learn to access an inner wisdom and always have great people around you who are better than you. Using this approach, I don't think that one is limited in any way. It turns an apparent limitation into an asset. Jewel: Over the years as I have witnessed how most artists' careers have been mishandled and, more importantly, how most managers have no idea how to help maintain and nurture creativity in an artist, it has made me value your skills as truly one of a kind. Do you feel that being an artist yourself has given you the insight on how to help me? Lenedra: Absolutely. As an artist I know what it takes to create. I know the growth necessary to sustain longevity and creativity. This is one of the most important areas of development for an artist's career and one that is usually overlooked. Jewel: Having been close to you while building our businesses, I have been privy to those times where you saw the need for expansion and had to find the courage to meet your vision. What has challenged you the most in building our businesses? Lenedra: The most challenging times are those when the expansion of the business outstrips my personal abilities. At those times I feel extremely vulnerable until I can integrate my knowledge that the wisdom to guide the company through the growth phase is available to me in the silence, and to remember that I can hire brilliant, knowledgeable people to provide the needed expertise. Jewel: In my book, when I was writing about my father I had to stop, reflect and assess the relationship. It was an emotional topic for me - were there any things like that for you in this book? Lenedra: It was very cathartic for me to write about the times when I had heart problems, business difficulties, and the period when I was working to clear emotional baggage. These were emotionally difficult times, but it was also freeing to remember and realize the success I've had in moving through them. I feel proud of myself for the growth and changes I have made. Jewel: My favorite story in the book is the one called "The Rabbit and The Chicken" because I can remember you telling me that story when I was young. Why did you feel it was important to tell me this story? What was it you wanted me to understand? Lenedra: I remember the fascination that I had with that story when I was a child and knew you would also feel the wonder of it and be intrigued by the questions that it raised. I also told it to you because I wanted you to understand that one of the most powerful ways that we learn is through the stories and teachings of other people. Jewel: When I am interviewed, often I am asked what it is like to have my mother be my manager. Let me turn the table on you and ask what it is like for you to manage me? Lenedra: Basically, what we have is a family owned business. So it is less about the issues of the separation of mother and manager, than it is about what it's like to run a family owned business. I find myself well suited to this type of work. I enjoy working with you, Jewel, and Shane, as well as Atz Lee when he works with us. There is a mutual language and a long established respect that I find brings greater ease to the type of relating that business requires. Jewel: You mention in your book an approach you developed as a child to help you avoid interpreting or misinterpreting the behavior of others. I remember you teaching me to play the game called "12 What Else." Can you give us an example of how it works? Have you ever used it in a business setting? Lenedra: "12 What Else" is an exercise that helps us understand what else is going on with other people besides what our initial impression might be and it opens up more options for how we relate to others. Recently I was on a conference call where everyone had different ideas and a number of people were upset. Everybody's agenda seemed to head in different directions. I interjected that we could easily see where we differed and where it was difficult to come together. I requested that we take some time for everyone on the conference call to speak to how we were similar in what we were trying to accomplish and to place our focus there. After everyone did that, I said, "Now lets think of as many things as we can that will facilitate us to reach those goals." And that's the way I use "12 What Else" in the business setting. I think it is a very important exercise to develop vital skills in business and personal relationships, including family relationships. Jewel: Your ideas about time are intriguing. Most of us feel pressured by how many things we have to do each day. How do we find more time in our busy lives? Lenedra: It's in the small moments. It's stopping and taking a breath before you make the next phone call. It's being conscious of where you are - that you are in a body, in a room, in a building, in a city, on a planet and that outside is whatever it may be. Then move into your next call. That helps to stay in the present moment and in the present moment there is no time. When we can stay present in each moment, time expands tremendously, creating space by making more silence, more pauses. These break our addiction to the time and space frame. That4s it. Neat, huh? Juliane ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #479 ***************************