From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #394 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, September 11 2001 Volume 06 : Number 394 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: Its not a war ["LH" ] [EDA] why now? why us? [Annette Jensen ] [EDA] WTC [PoPoVaTwiLiGhT@aol.com] Re: [EDA] NJC: Its not a war ["David & Beth" ] Re: [EDA] War? possible Sandy ["Sandy" ] Re: [EDA] NJC: ACT OF WAR ["Sandy" ] [EDA] NYC, DC [RachKat926@aol.com] [EDA] How to Help (Unjumbled repost) [Jason Vierling ] Re: [EDA] under attack ["David & Beth" ] [EDA] re:WAR [Uri Cancio ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:19:56 -0500 From: "LH" Subject: [EDA] NJC: Its not a war I agree with the people who are saying that it's NOT a war or declaration or anything of the sort right now. A lot of people get emotional and they cannot find a way to express it except to start pointing fingers and making a list of people to take revenge on. This sort of thing is WHY the government keeps their mouth shut until they get an answer because people start to talk and create a panic because everyone wants to jump to a conclusion. I was in Air Force Intelligence awhile back...this sort of thing is very complicated, especially when dealing with Terrorists. There's not always a clear cut answer right away and if you start deciding to shoot in the dark and start attacking without clear cut evidence you only make yourself as guilty as they are by possibly hurting innocents. Yeah, it sucks that is happened, but it does no good to point fingers right now. Unless you work for the military and are doing the research you know nothing besides what you have heard through the media (or word of mouth, which typically originates in the media)....it's very different what you "are allowed" to hear and sometimes what is really going on. If you are alive right now and all of your loved ones are safe, spend your time appreciating that and don't take it all for granted. Let the people who know what they are doing decide who is at fault. Matrix ex-"wing wiper", E3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:30:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Annette Jensen Subject: [EDA] why now? why us? i can't understand why things like this happen. i mean i thought this WOULD be another normal day but appearantly i was wrong, and to all those who thought so as well. it's so depressing. these terrorists whoever thay are, don't show their face, do a cowardly thing like this and kill thousands of innocent people. i still can't understand. could it be pride? or could it just be jealousy. out of respect and the eda's in new york, i had a moment of silence. we all did.....or at least we did. such a cowardly act of violence....why did it have to happen to us? one of the people that was on one of the four planes was fro utah. she was killed instantly. pleaseif you have the time, give a moment of silence for the respect of those who were killed and their families. thanks it was a dreadful day but don't let a thing like this get you down. the u.s. has withstanded worse things than this. Annette ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:43:48 EDT From: PoPoVaTwiLiGhT@aol.com Subject: [EDA] WTC I'm in a complete state of shock. There are no words to describe this tragic tragic incident. I was actually on my way to the city when I heard this sad news on the radio. I send out prayers to the victims as well as families who lost loved ones in this terrorist incident. This really hits home. Who knows what's going to happen next. I think this is just the beginning of something big. Those responsible will be punished in the end. <3 Jenn Angel Watching Over You ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:42:13 -0400 From: "David & Beth" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Its not a war Does it really matter? Just realize that War or not, we're going to blow something up very soon, whether you support it or not. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "LH" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:19 PM Subject: [EDA] NJC: Its not a war > I agree with the people who are saying that it's NOT a war or declaration or > anything of the sort right now. A lot of people get emotional and they cannot > find a way to express it except to start pointing fingers and making a list of > people to take revenge on. This sort of thing is WHY the government keeps > their mouth shut until they get an answer because people start to talk and > create a panic because everyone wants to jump to a conclusion. I was in Air > Force Intelligence awhile back...this sort of thing is very complicated, > especially when dealing with Terrorists. There's not always a clear cut > answer right away and if you start deciding to shoot in the dark and start > attacking without clear cut evidence you only make yourself as guilty as they > are by possibly hurting innocents. Yeah, it sucks that is happened, but it > does no good to point fingers right now. Unless you work for the military and > are doing the research you know nothing besides what you have heard through > the media (or word of mouth, which typically originates in the media)....it's > very different what you "are allowed" to hear and sometimes what is really > going on. If you are alive right now and all of your loved ones are safe, > spend your time appreciating that and don't take it all for granted. Let the > people who know what they are doing decide who is at fault. > > > Matrix > ex-"wing wiper", E3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:39:44 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] War? possible Sandy - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:59 PM Subject: [EDA] War? possible Sandy > > James Kallestrom Former Director of FBI ,"America has never been slapped so > hard in the face. This is an act of war, and we need to act accordingly...." > and as I said before "an act of war" is not a "war"....they are two seperate things. ~<3~ Sandy - - lavender haunted you, so I could only laugh in yellow - jewel - ..... http://www.envy.nu/angeloflove ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:45:46 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: ACT OF WAR - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rowdy White" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: [EDA] NJC: ACT OF WAR > First, about facts... I will gladly offer sources for anything in my > post, so feel free to ask me to defend my views... > I do not know if Sandy really read my post. I did not say that we were > at war. I said (or wrote rather) "Act Of War". Yes, but you said "Act of War" when you were replying to a post where I said that the US was not at war. The way you replied, and what you wrote that followed, sounded to me like you were saying that it *was* a war, and that's why I said an act of war is different than war. If you didn't mean that, I'm sorry I did misunderstand you. but what I didn't misunderstand were the few other people on this list who said there *was* a war. That was what I originally commented on, saying that what happened does not in fact constitute a war since it is unclear exactly who did this for sure, and there is no one for the US to declare war on. You were the one who then replied to my post, and by starting it stating: "I am sorry, but this was an act of war." it implied to me that you were disagreeing with me and saying there was in fact a war. ~<3~ Sandy - - lavender haunted you, so I could only laugh in yellow - jewel - ..... http://www.envy.nu/angeloflove ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:49:34 EDT From: RachKat926@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NYC, DC I'm am completely saddened and deflated at these unfolding events and I just can't express how crushed I am. I just wanted to make sure that everyone is OK-- I know none of us are truly ok, but stay strong, tell your loved ones how much they mean to you and please live life to the fullest every day. I love you all and I'm praying for all of humanity. Please take care ~Rachel~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:50:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Vierling Subject: [EDA] How to Help (Unjumbled repost) Hi there :) I have seen a few posts about how and where to help with this horrible tragedy. Following are a few links/phone numbers that I have been able to gather together in regards to donating blood and so on... NY Area - NY Blood Center http://www.nybloodcenter.org/ 1-800-933-2566 New York area residents can make blood donations to St. Clare's Hospital and Health Center located at 153 West 11th St. in Manhattan. Residents of Uptown Manhattan can make blood donations at the Citibank office at 310 East 67th Street. Red Cross blood donation number: 1-800-448-3543 The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) is urging those interested in helping victims of the apparent terrorist events to give blood or cash donations. Those interested in giving blood should call the American Red Cross blood donation hotline, at 1-800-448-3543. The American Red Cross can accept cash donations through 1-800-HELP NOW, and the Salvation Army can accept financial contributions through 1-800-SAL ARMY. Medical personnel who wish to donate their services should contact their local American Red Cross office. Also more resources can be found at www.Helping.org and just about every major news/web portal like Yahoo.com, etc. This is the time to BE an EveryDay Angel in fact, not just in name :) Please do want you can... Sincerely, Jason Vierling ===== EveryDay Angels Foundation (visit at www.edaf.org) Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:59:42 EDT From: JeWeLzKeWL@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Stay Calm Whether you're many states away from all the commotion or right it in (like me living in NYC) the best thing you can do is just to stay calm..make sure all of your relatives are okay and try not to worry..When people are scared they often imagine things way worse than what will ever happen..This is one of the scariest situations people will ever have to go through, but if you stay calm, do the best you can to do to help around you (like donate blood), and keep everyone close to your heart everything will be okay. Just use this experience as a reminder to enjoy life and always tell people you love them while you can. Live life to the fullest and DON'T WORRY. "Worry is wasteful and useless in times like these" God bless America and those who have lost their lives today Heaven's new angels will watch over this country and all of it's people Jade *Tiny Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 17:10:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Vierling Subject: [EDA] SoCal EDA Website & How to help Me again :) I also listed the info on how to help in my last post on the SoCal EDA website at socaledas.homestead.com. I'm slowly giving the new website a new look as well...but I had hoped for a more auspicious occaision to debut it. If anyone has anything to add for me to put up please email me at this address :) Thanks again, Jason Vierling ===== EveryDay Angels Foundation (visit at www.edaf.org) Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 02:22:05 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_Andr=E9?= Subject: Re: [EDA] other countries - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Houwing" > > Here in holland all major airports have been closed, military patrolling > on Schiphol airport near Amsterdam. Same goes for Belgium germany, italy > and france as I understood. Sabena, the belgian airlines has cancelled all flights to the US. NATO headquarters and all European Union offices in Brussels have been evacuated, the SHAPE (strategic headquarters of allied powers in europe), in Ghlin, Belgium has been evacuated of non-essential personal too and placed on maximum alert. Belgium sent a team of highly specialized doctors and forensics to the US to help. I live in Denmark (but am belgian) and my class was interupted and we rushed to the cafeteria to watch the news on tv. Danish tv DR1 is now airing the New York ABC affiliate live. Nicolas ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:31:59 -0300 From: "FabioJJ" Subject: [EDA] New CD cover?? Check this address out: http://webross.atlantic-records.com/img/2_593841_10.Jpg I got this picture from the Atlantic site. Does it look like "This Way" cover?? Maybe.. Fabio ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:39:57 -0400 From: "David & Beth" Subject: Re: [EDA] under attack Think about what you are saying for a second. OK, it is a Jewel list, but this is a national tragedy that has nothing to do with Jewel. NYC is very big, and if she did happen to be there, the odds are pretty good she would be nowhere near the WTC. Please don't get so caught up in a "cult of personality" that you lose perspective. 200 firefighters are missing and presumed dead, as are 78 police officers, and countless others. Jewel is a talented singer, but your life should not be so caught up in her that when you hear two planes with Hundreds of people on them crashed into two buildings with tens of thousands your first thought is about Jewel....trust me her first thought wasn't whether you individually were alright, nor should it be. Once again, pray for the victims and their families, and GIVE BLOOD if you can. They are woefully short. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "now and zen girl" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 6:01 PM Subject: [EDA] under attack > well, i think that we, being a jewel list and all, have the right to > wonder if jewel is ok... i mean we sit here wondering and praying for all > the people we dont even know yet some of you are saying it isnt right to > wonder if JEWEL is ok... i think that is rediculous!! i know that one of > the first things that came to my mind is if jewel is out of NY and if she > is safe! for many of us on this list its really no different for us to > wonder about jewel than it is for us to wonder about a family member or a > friend... i mean god... give us a break! i mean whats wrong with > wondering what jewel thinks of all this, i mean dont you wonder what your > friends think of it, and thats ok... right? > > i wouldnt say we are going to war... thats a bit much, but the more i > hear about it its only becomming more real......all i have to say is that > we live in one REALLY SICK WORLD!!! and... soon all that will be left > are the cocroaches!! > > the world is committing suicide > > right now "the new wild west" is a very fitting song....... i think it > needs to be played all accross the world on huge loud speakers.... this > world needs to wake up... i guess death is the way we like to do it... > sadly...but it seems to be true. > > my prayers, thoughts, and love are with all of you in pain right now > > her is a little poem i wrote a while ago and i dedicate it to those of > you hurting now: > > hold you close / hold you tight / hold you all through the night / let > everything be alright / let you see a guiding light / guide you all > through tonight > > and heres one i wrote a long time ago and i dedicate it to all of those > who have died: > > to all i love / and to all a goodnight / sweet dreams baby / sleep tight > > ok im done!! > > alisa > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:38:37 -0700 From: Uri Cancio Subject: [EDA] re:WAR Ok, few things that I want to clarify to a bunch of you that are pissing me off big time. 1) when I said "it's obvious this is war" I didn't mean that we were declared at one. I'm 29 yrs old, my mom, God rest her soul, had me late in life, she lived in NY when ww2 happened, my dad who's still alive, went to ww2, vietnam and bay of pigs. I have heard enough to know what a war is and this is an act that it's a direct attack on this nation, their liders and their citizens and residents, the only problem is that noone has claim responsability for it, so for all of you that has read a lot of shit in books and has not paid attn to their teachers and grandparents shut up. THIS IS A DECLARATION OF WAR. 2) I'm not jewish, though my grandma was spaniard jewish. My name, Uri, it's a japanese name that was given to me by my father when I was born.Uri it's also a hebrew name for boys, I'm a girl. .I was born in the Dominican Republic, my dad it's cuban and I'm a US citizen since I was 1. 3) I'm a pacifist, have been my whole life, but this time I have had enough. Fuck everyone that dares disturb the peace of this nation and their INNOCENT citizens. So don;t give me any intellectual bullshit, I'm tired of it, just shut the fuck up and pray pls, STOP. AND JUST PRAY FOR THOSE THAT WON'T GET TO GO HOME TOMORROW, KISS THEIR CHILDREN, HEAR A SONG ON THE RADIO, TAKE A SHOWER, KISS A BOY/GIRLFRIEND, ETC. THERE ARE ABOUT 20,000 OF THEM Uri pissed off Angel. Uri ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #394 ***************************