From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #364 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, August 27 2001 Volume 06 : Number 364 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "calendar" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V6 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] NJC: In Memory of Aaliyah - Please Read [Mattman8818@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Re: EDAs gone down hill [shell ] [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #362 [Fredsteve@aol.com] Re: [EDA] Re: The Craft ["Sandy" ] Re: [EDA] Jewel & Sylvia Plath / Down ["* Charli *" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:33:04 EDT From: Mattman8818@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC: In Memory of Aaliyah - Please Read As most of you know, the shining R&B star Aaliyah died on Sunday, August 25 after her plane crashed. This e-mail is to offer sympathy to her loved ones and loved ones of all who have died. This is a quoted from a Destiny's Child song: "I woke up and realized this world's not so bad after all. I looked at it through a child's eyes and I saw the things we never think about...like the ocean, moonlight, stars and clouds. It's amazing how we don't appreciate our blessings....I love myself. Sometimes it gets rough but I can't give up....I woke up this morning the sunshine was shining, I put on my happy face. I'm breathing - I'm able. Put on my happy face...Everything's gonna be alright." IN MEMORY OF AALIYAH (1979 - 2001) AND ALL OF OUR LOVED ONES WHO HAVE DIED, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO APPRECIATE LIFE AND EVER ASPECT OF IT. STOP THE HATE. STOP THE KILLINGS. STOP THE RACISM. STOP THE SEGREGATION. STOP THE STEREOTYPES. TURN YOUR SADNESS INTO POWER AND HELP MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. GIVE SOMEONE A HUG...THEY'RE FREE. AALIYAH - WE WILL MISS YOU AND LOOK FORWARD TO MEETING UP WITH YOU AGAIN SOMEDAY. YOU WILL BE REMEMBERED AS AN AMAZING ENTERTAINER...AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, AN AMAZING PERSON. WE LOVE YOU ALWAYS AND FOREVER. YOU'RE "ONE IN A MILLION". FROM HER SONG "ONE IN A MILLON": Your love is a one in a million it goes on and on and on Your love is a one in a million all day long. AALIYAH - REST IN PEACE. Sincerely, Matt Sullivan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 22:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: shell Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: EDAs gone down hill I agree with both of those angels. I think that a lot of times, opinions get jumped on way too quickly and sometimes, for no real reason. But if we bash other people's negative opinions, that's just reinforcing an idea of "I'm right, you're not. So there." Honestly, I can see how some people would listen to Spirit once and never again. I think we've had this discussion a few times, how that particular album took some of us some getting used to, it had to grow on us. But I do agree with the comment on how some of the angels here were wrong in their gripe about Jewel not doing enough. I think that sometimes we get so involved in her music and her writings and when is she going to release the next album, and is she doing another private show for us yet, that we forget that songwriters don't write for us. I don't think Jewel has ever sat down and said "I think I'm going to not write for myself, and not write for the growth of my own being, but I'm going to write for Courtney because it will do her some good." Of course there are going to be a million times when an artist will be truely happy that they were able to touch another person with their music, their poems, their stories. I used to write poems to the EDA thoughts list about the abuse of my childhood. But I didn't write it for anyone else. Yeah, if someone on that list got something out of it, rock on. That's a perk, and I'm glad. But I'm not writing it for someone else. I'm writing it for me, and I'm going to take my sweet time until I like what I've come up with, because it isn't anyone else's poem. It's mine. Just a few thoughts... I hope I haven't offended anyone. Courtney The carrot juice drinking angel _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 01:59:49 EDT From: Fredsteve@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: jewel-digest V6 #362 In a message dated 8/26/01 10:52:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org writes: > While I do not know where in the film her "Under The Water" appears in The > Craft, I know "Foolish Games" is NOT in the Batman & Robin film...it's only > on the soundtrack CD (I never could figure out THAT kind of thing...there > are MANY cases of songs on soundtracks where not even a glimmer of a note of > the song is in the film). > It's been a while since I've seen The Craft, but I remember hearing the song when Neve Campbell and Skeet Ulrich were having some kind of a date. I think it's the first time they're together alone. The song plays quite quietly and not for long. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 02:22:44 -0400 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: The Craft > It's been a while since I've seen The Craft, but I remember hearing the song > when Neve Campbell and Skeet Ulrich were having some kind of a date. I think > it's the first time they're together alone. The song plays quite quietly and > not for long. It's not Neve Campbell, it's Robin Tunney & Skeet Ulrich. Neve Campbell was one of the bad witches. ~<3~ Sandy - - lavender haunted you, so I could only laugh in yellow - jewel - ..... http://www.envy.nu/angeloflove ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 16:31:02 +1000 From: "* Charli *" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel & Sylvia Plath / Down hey angels, I've been studying Plath's poetry at school and I was surprised when i read daddy at how similar the tone is and the style. We didn't study Morning Song though but i really want to read it to compare it to Jewel's Morning Song. Just my thoughts on the matter. love from Chiki...aussie angel ~for i have seen the face of love, the grace of God~ Jewel _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:00:26 -0500 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel Comes Riding Back Into Pop Arena OK, I love Jewel as much as any one else here, but when did she become a fasion icon. This is one part of her career that I DON'T remember. Not that I don't like the way she dresses or anything, but I would never have considered her a fasion icon. She was close to making that her only performance venue, period. After a whirlwind stretch of five years in which she sold more than 11 million albums in the U.S., wrote two books, became a fashion icon and co-starred in a movie ("Ride With the Devil"), she was done in. >>> "Chris Groves" 08/26/2001 3:19:30 PM >>> This is from latimes.com - ------------------ Jewel Comes Riding Back Into Pop Arena By STEVE HOCHMAN If you saw Jewel sing in the past two years, odds are you're a fan of professional bull riding. For most of the time since finishing promotional duties for her 1998 album "Spirit" and the 1999 Christmas collection "Joy," her only public performances were renditions of "The Star-Spangled Banner" on the bull-riding circuit--where her boyfriend, Ty Murray, is seven-time Professional Rodeo Cowboy Assn. champ. She was close to making that her only performance venue, period. After a whirlwind stretch of five years in which she sold more than 11 million albums in the U.S., wrote two books, became a fashion icon and co-starred in a movie ("Ride With the Devil"), she was done in. "I got real tired," says Jewel, 26. "It got real hard for me to keep up with everything. I ended up having to take a lot of time off and wasn't sure I'd want to come back to the business or not. There's a lot about it I love, but a lot that doesn't suit my nature." Jewel reconnected with her nature while living in the wide-open spaces of Murray's Texas ranch and in the rodeo world. But she also reconnected with her music and is ready to return to the pop life--although she's making sure her nature is reflected in both her upcoming album, due Nov. 13, and her image. On the latter, she says to expect down-home rather than designer. "It's every girl's fantasy to get dressed up," she says. "But now I want to be more of what I am in everyday life--blue jeans and messy hair." The music too will be less glossy this time around. She's traded in the pop sheen of "Spirit," which was produced by frequent Madonna collaborator Patrick Leonard, and the Christmas sessions, produced by veteran Arif Mardin, for an earthier approach closer to the folk-rock base of her debut, "Pieces of You." The new material was co-produced by Jewel with Dan Huff (Faith Hill, SheDaisy) in Nashville, and ranges from the expected first single "Standing Still" (which actually could go next to a Faith Hill song on radio) to the gritty "Love Me Just Leave Me Alone" (which would be compatible alongside Melissa Etheridge rockers). The singer-songwriter even recorded an invitation-only live show set in a Nashville coffeehouse recently, with some of those tracks likely to make it onto the album. "On the first record it was easy to keep it raw and undone," she says. "Then suddenly people are thinking they have to make hits for radio. I was really protective of the songs this time." Not that Atlantic executives--and Jewel--aren't looking for hits now. But they agree that it all got a bit out of control before. "She's become incredibly mature and directed with a really fine sense of herself," Atlantic general manager Ron Shapiro says. "Marketing her now is about letting it be known that where we left her is not really what Jewel is. "She's not the cover [of fashion magazines]....We're not going to be too precious, not going to take advantage of every opportunity this time, but choose things that are going to let the truth be known about who she's become over the last two years." - ------------- Chris. http://www.jewelfan.co.uk : Jewel - Pieces Of UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:13:22 -0400 From: "Devin Starr" Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: EDAs gone down hill Hey angels i was watching an interview with Sugar Ray on Much Music here in Canada. and he said something that kind of relates to this whole argument over Spirit vs POY.. back at POY it was just a girl with a guitar. by the time spirit came around she was more accomplished, record company's put out more cash for the albums, hense letting Jewel have a bit more fun. but here is the Sugar Ray quote taht pulls it for me... "Some people ask us why we dont jump around naked anymore or play more music like what we played when we first started, and well they dont seem to get that people grow up sometimes. Some fans just expect you to keep that forever and just stay that way." i think its true.. basing your jewel fandom on POY is like having a child and forever thinking of them as 3 years old. by the time they get to be 16 they are ready to break so far away from what they did when they were 3. And sometimes it seems like you dont even know them anymore.. its still the same girl, just a little different style... So let her grow! cause ask yourself if you could count peanuts everyday for the rest of your life... then based on that answer ask Jewel to play WWMFM, WWSYS, Daddy, Morning Song, POY, Little Sister and Foolish games everyday for the rest of her life.. nothing else.... Jess angel with broken wings (and a pretty big mouth.) >>couldnt you see how beaten down she was >>getting by the end of the spirit tour..... which by the way i love >>that >>album!! some of you just dont seem to appreciate anything. > >yeah, i really like spirit too and i've always been confused by >people who >say they only listened to it once and never again...but i've given >up on >trying to convince people otherwise...people are allowed to have >their >opinions... > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:37:26 -0400 From: Katherine_Stojonic@michcon.com Subject: [EDA] FCS & some NJC Hi! Just a thought... maybe Atlantic is going to do what Christina Aguilera's old record label did and release FCS when their contract with Jewel is over to try and make a few extra bucks off of her music. Also, about Aaliyah; I really respected her music and acting and I was shocked to hear about the plane crash but I've heard from my friends who went to school with her that she was a total bee-otch. She slammed one of my friends' head in a water fountain because she was taking too long. [shrug] Anyway, I'm just saying this because I hope she's remembered as a talented girl as opposed to the usual "such a sweet person" that's always labelled to someone who's just died because it always irritates me how when people die they're suddenly turned into saints without a single flaw... merr... the masquerade angel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:44:33 -0500 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: [EDA] NJC: Texas Gathering I'm thinking about putting together another gathering, and I'm trying to get a head count of how many people would be interested in attending. I live a little north of Houston, just so you can get an idea of location. I would probably have the gathering in October or early November. (It's really hot down here so I want to wait until it cools down!) Anyone who thinks they might be interested in attending let me know. Also, there is plenty of room for an LRC if anyone would like to play! =-) Kristie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 11:29:06 EDT From: Waterwaster@aol.com Subject: [EDA] A little Spirit Story! I don't post a lot but I thought you guys might like this little story. I'll try to make it short. Christmas Eve 98' a friend of mine bought me Spirit as my present. Well one of my friends, John who I had just started hanging out with, came over after all my relatives/friends were gone. We went into my room and were just sort of hanging out and talking, when he asked to listen to my new CD (Spirit) I of course said yes. Somehow we ended up laying on my bed, listening to Jewel. Then he ended up putting his arms around me as we lay. We listened to the whole CD through without saying a word. Then when the CD was over and I went to get up, *We Kissed*! That was all it took, we never asked eachother out. From that moment on we knew we were together, and we have been ever since. Which will be three years this Christmas Eve. Ok, I'm done now. Isn't it sweet though? Thanks for reading:) ~Crystal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 12:19:22 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: In Memory of Aaliyah - Please Read Hey Matt, No offense, but I have totally no idea who this person is! Of course it is a shame when anyone that young dies, SUCKS big time. It truly is a tragedy, but not a personal one. When my beloved father died THAT was a personal tragedy. I really didn't under stand the line about "stop the segregation". I must be living in a time warp...segregation ended in the 1960's! When Bill Clinton moved to Harlem many blacks labeled him an interloper and wanted no part of him in their neighborhood...maybe that was the segregation this person spoke of. I say let's stop with all the victimization and hyphenated-americans labeling and all act like plain old AMERICANS, not subgroups which only divide us. We will all be much better off in the long run. Joe As most of you know, the shining R&B star Aaliyah died on Sunday, August 25 >after her plane crashed. >STOP THE SEGREGATION. > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT) From: shell Subject: Re: [EDA] Re: EDAs gone down hill Dear Angels, > different style... So let her grow! I think we really have no choice in letting her do that, and I don't think that the angels here saying "I didn't really like this album" was prohibiting her growth. I think that the change from POY to Spirit was just... too huge a leap for some of us. There wasn't really a transition, it was just... alright, like the 3 and 16 year old thing. You don't expect them to be a toddler and then, literally, the next day, they're 16. You expect some transition, some step... Something *between* being a seed and being a tree. I'm not saying that Spirit was a bad album or that I didn't agree with the transition from one to the other, I'm simply saying that I think it was just a big change from POY to Spirit, and the change was a bit bigger than most of us had expected. Courtney The *other* every day angel. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #364 ***************************