From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #299 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, July 26 2001 Volume 06 : Number 299 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] selection, NYC and secret EDA ["Amanda" ] Re: [EDA] selection process [GnG849@aol.com] Re: [EDA] selection process [Mike Connell ] [EDA] Nashville tragedy [LuckyStarr42@aol.com] Re: [EDA] selection process ["Kevin Douglas" ] [EDA] Nashville [EastAngelEDA@aol.com] Well said Mike - Re: [EDA] selection process ["Steven J Neville" ] [EDA] Re: Pieces of you question [Wigglytooth523@aol.com] [EDA] SD bound..maybe :) [Wesllow@aol.com] [EDA] To all the Nashville attendees [Lseids@aol.com] [EDA] Nashville List? [Drake34@aol.com] [EDA] Which nashville venue? [KSco2001@aol.com] Re: [EDA] selection process [Raymond Wong ] Re: [EDA] Which nashville venue? ["Ashley Brumback" Subject: [EDA] selection, NYC and secret EDA Nicely said Michelle! My guess is they just did it ona first come first seve basis. If you followed the directs in the email by filling in all the information completly, and who ever were the first 100. I mean that is how they did it for sessions. ANyway, I wanted to know, of those who went to the concert in NYC last week, did anyone get good pictures? I took an entire roll of film, and they are all sooo blurry. UGH. I really wanted a really decent picture ( i did travel 22 hours to get there and 22 back home!) and also, I know Dennis mentioned something about a male EDA in NYc from CINCINNATI!!!! well, the only EDA's from Cincinnati I thought were Gina, Andrea, and myself. Who are you cincy EDA!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:49:47 EDT From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process In a message dated 7/25/01 8:44:49 PM US Eastern Standard Time, ducksoup@quackquack.net writes: << was posted: >think the EDA's deserve to know how the 100 were >selected. WHY? Heck, they don't deserve that at all. It's attitudes like this exemplified today with this and other recent posts to this list that goes against the very fabric/idea/EDA spirit as to WHY they invited 100 EDAs in the first place. If we all had an attitude like this ("EDAs deserve to know"), there'd have NEVER been an invite. We'd have not been worthy of such a special opportunity (again...recall 1996?). We'd be EveryDay Ingrates, not EveryDAy Angels. Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. They very well could have just had some radio station give away the tix to callers 180 to 380, or sold tickets outright. But no, they invited 100 EDAs plus 100 guests for free, all the 200 have to do is get there. (and of course have a realistic chance to get there) So what if we don't know how they whittled XXX number of requests down to 100. I am sure whatever process they used was as fair as possible to the applicants when all things are considered. Was someone invited that won't be able to make it? Yes, of course. Where people not invited that WOULD be there? Yes, of course. Was there a way to ensure all 100 invites WOULD make it? No, of course not. Not if all 100 invites lived a block from the theatre, not if all 100 invites had 6 months to plan. Heck, you didn't even try to get invited, why do you care so much as to how 100 were selected? 100 of your fellow list members have an opportunity to be at what promises to be a very special event. Be happy for the 100 who get to go and please stop trying to give the non-invitees any more reason (unfounded at that) to be disappointed. Mike GO MIKE! hey, i knew i couldn't get there so i didn't try. but i'm happy for the people who did...ok, and a bit jelouse too. but the person that posted that statement uptop should think about what mike said! love megan,the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:54:11 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process Aaron wrote: >Wow Derrick, settle down. This is not that monumental of an issue. Mr. >BB, Mike, and the Jewel team are honest and perfectly capable of picking >these 100 people in a fair manner. For the record, I was not and am not involved with this event nor the selection process. I was just conferring with MrBB offering help if they needed it, and ideas, input and suggestions based on my co-organizing JewelStock in 1996, and the pitfalls we had back then. Right now, I am just here to help out onlist if I see any misinformation posted, or perhaps answer questions that I know the answers to as long as they are answers that CAN be put on the list. (i.e. if someone asks when and where the show is, there ain't gonna be an answer :-) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:15:08 EDT From: LuckyStarr42@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Nashville tragedy My life is so unfair! I was one of the very lucky 100 people who were invited. I was so excited I screamed and jumped around and everything. And then my mom is like "You can';t go, Nashville is too far away and with college and your apartment we don't have the extra cash for you to go to Nashville." Isn't that horrible. But me being the Jewel groupie that I am, this is what I am going to do... I am going anyways, I don't care if I have to go all the way by myself (I live in Northern West Virginia) and I am going to have to sleep in my car and bring my own food. That way the only money I have to spend is on gas. I am just going to go, and not tell my parents, it's the only way. I doubt any of my friends will risk going with me, like I doubt any will be allowed to go all the way to Nashville with just me. if that is the case then I will be able to take an EDA as my guest. If you are intrested e-mail me and let me know, and then I will let you know once I know for sure if I can take you as my guest. Thanks for listening!!!! ashley staggers the sweet (and now depressed) angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:15:38 -0700 From: "Kevin Douglas" Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process Derrick wrote: It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for others who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want to know how the 100 were picked? Wow! That's funny. YOU'RE the ONLY one raising a stink about this. It sure does look like it's an issue for you. Take some ExLax and let us enjoy the honor of this exceptional gift from Jewel and the JTeam. Kevin >From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." >To: "'Jewel list'" >Subject: [EDA] selection process >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 19:39:44 -0500 > >Maybe it's just me, or maybe I'm the only one who will speak up about this, >but does anyone else care to know exactly how the 100 "winners" for the TN >show were chosen? It's not AS much an issue for me as it may be for others >who were signed up to go and weren't selected, but doesn't anyone want to >know how the 100 were picked? I've never heard of a contest, drawing, >game, >anything, where something was given away (in this case, free tickets) >without some criteria, and/or rules established on how the prizes would be >awarded. And I know if I signed up and didn't get chosen I'd SURE want to >know...since some who were chosen can't even go. It just doesn't seem very >fair to everyone. I think the EDA's deserve to know how the 100 were >selected. Otherwise, it's just like one big toss up, and for all anyone >knows, it could just be some personal preference on who got picked. There >are tons of options to choose from if this isn't made clear. Was it the >people who post the most to the list? Someone else actually suggested this >to me...which I never even thought about beforehand. Was it first come >basis? (the WORST way in my opinion, when doing something electronically >anyway), or if not, then what? Number of letters in someone's name? lol >Come on guys, how were these people picked? Tell us. I know I'm not the >only one who wants to know. Maybe I'm just the designated spokesperson. >If >we're never told, I think it really makes this list look pretty bad. Yeah, >it's nice and all that 100 get to go to a free show, but when it's not even >mentioned ONCE how those 100 were selected (and why the 100's weren't >selected), what does that say about the list? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 22:33:46 EDT From: EastAngelEDA@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Nashville Does anyone happen to have an extra spot? I got invited, and obviously I'm taking my boyfriend, but I have a friend who just got left by her fiance (the wedding was/is in less than a month) and is generally just having a shitty time and would like to go, so if anyone got invited and didn't plan on taking anyone, could you email me privately and lemme know? It would be much appreciated. Gina EastAngel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 12:50:22 +1000 From: "Steven J Neville" Subject: Well said Mike - Re: [EDA] selection process Once again Mike (the voice of reason) Connell gets it absolutely correct. Does it matter how these EDA's were chosen. At the end of the day, the important points that matter are that Jewel wanted to keep this within the EDA community and that 100 fellow EDA's are able to attend. Besides, what's going to sound better. 100 EDA's (+ guests) wildly cheering and appreciating Jewel' music, or 200 semi-appreciative people who dialled a radio station and won a ticket? Sure, I'm disappointed that I can't attend and hang with/meet new EDA's. But that disappointment is far outweighed by the joy and satisfaction of knowing that 100 fellow EDA's and their friends will be in attendance and having the time of their lives. As far as the selection process is concerned, I'd guess that it was a random drawing of 100 names 'from a hat'. By far the most fair and unbiased process for this. Steve The Aussie angel named Taz. Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:40:28 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process was posted: >think the EDA's deserve to know how the 100 were >selected. WHY? Heck, they don't deserve that at all. It's attitudes like this exemplified today with this and other recent posts to this list that goes against the very fabric/idea/EDA spirit as to WHY they invited 100 EDAs in the first place. If we all had an attitude like this ("EDAs deserve to know"), there'd have NEVER been an invite. We'd have not been worthy of such a special opportunity (again...recall 1996?). We'd be EveryDay Ingrates, not EveryDAy Angels. Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. They very well could have just had some radio station give away the tix to callers 180 to 380, or sold tickets outright. But no, they invited 100 EDAs plus 100 guests for free, all the 200 have to do is get there. (and of course have a realistic chance to get there) So what if we don't know how they whittled XXX number of requests down to 100. I am sure whatever process they used was as fair as possible to the applicants when all things are considered. Was someone invited that won't be able to make it? Yes, of course. Where people not invited that WOULD be there? Yes, of course. Was there a way to ensure all 100 invites WOULD make it? No, of course not. Not if all 100 invites lived a block from the theatre, not if all 100 invites had 6 months to plan. Heck, you didn't even try to get invited, why do you care so much as to how 100 were selected? 100 of your fellow list members have an opportunity to be at what promises to be a very special event. Be happy for the 100 who get to go and please stop trying to give the non-invitees any more reason (unfounded at that) to be disappointed. Mike * If you are new to the Jewel list and need a helping hand, * or have a burning question about Jewel and/or the list, * The Jewel/EveryDay Angels List Homepage & Guide is at: * http://www.quackquack.net/jewel * Many basic/common Jewel and list questions can be answered there :-) * * If you can't find the answer on the page have any list related * questions, please feel free to email me at ducksoup@quackquack.net * or you can IM me on either of the AOL names below: * DuckOfPrey or WhyADuck55 and/on AOL or AOL Instant Messenger - ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #298 *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 02:58:58 +0000 From: "Casey O'Brien" Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Big Brother Australia have just had their first big brother which was won by a 'typical' aussie bloke - great, genuine guy. I wasn't really into the whole BB thing at first but then I just became caught up in all the excitement hehe. Any other Aussie EDAs lurking that watched BB? Casey >From: "Missy Narrance" >To: "EDA list" >Subject: Re: [EDA] NJC: Big Brother >Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 17:28:57 -0700 > >I love Big Brother. I watch is religiously. UNFORTUNATLEY. I think my >favorite people are Krista and Hardy. >Missy > >What a wicked game to play, >to make me feel this way... >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." >To: "'Jewel list'" >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:47 PM >Subject: [EDA] NJC: Big Brother > > > > Does anyone watch that show called Big Brother? What do you think about >it, > > and whose you're favorite person on there? :-) Let's get some new >threads > > going here, the list has been kind of dead lately other than the TN >thing, > > but that'll be done in 5 days anyway. Let's stir up some new topics and > > interests!!! :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:07:57 EDT From: Wigglytooth523@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Re: Pieces of you question hey- pieces came out on 2-28-95 my step sisters 10th birthday. Eliot ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:51:14 EDT From: Wesllow@aol.com Subject: [EDA] SD bound..maybe :) Hi Angels, after the big letdown of the reality i had to face when i realized there was no possible way of getting to Nashville by Monday i started to ponder maybe finding my way down to San Diego for the aug. 19 & 20 concerts at Humpreys, seeing I have never been to San Diego, i was wondering if there were any extra special Eda's that live there going to the shows that could maybe help me around town & tell me about kewl cheap motels or could even find space to let a 18 yr. old boy sleep a couple nights , lol im a poor college student but anyways plane fare is pretty cheap so this could actually be a reality if i get all the arrangents put into place, and hey there could even be a free cup of coffee in the deal for this person with a big kind heart :)....i've been wanting to go to the innerchange :) so anyways ..umm yah :) if you can help i'd sure be obliged thanks, Wesllow ~the Redstick Indigo Angel~ email me @ wesllow@aol.com or wesllow4jewel@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:54:38 EDT From: Lseids@aol.com Subject: [EDA] To all the Nashville attendees Just wanted to tell all of you to have the best time ever in NASHVILLE with JEWEL! Can't wait to hear all about it. - -The Living Through You Angel Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:18:25 EDT From: Drake34@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Nashville List? Hey guys just wondering if there was a list of everyone that was invited to nashville. if not that's ok but if so maybe I'm on there somewheres. But alas probably not. But thanks for the opportunity. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 00:31:20 EDT From: KSco2001@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Which nashville venue? What venue is the concert being held in nashville? Kris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:53:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Raymond Wong Subject: Re: [EDA] selection process I just have one question... Am I the only person whose first thought after the show was announced was, "Oh boy, live tracks on the new album!!!!" ?????? Why would I spend any time being disappointed about anything? The concert is clearly planned to be a live show being recorded, and music labels do things like this for a reason. Seems to me those of us that aren't lucky enough to go might just be lucky enough to get new, live tracks recorded for that new album. I consider this a Good Thing(tm). Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl at best.com, negativl at netcom.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 23:55:44 -0500 From: "Ashley Brumback" Subject: Re: [EDA] Which nashville venue? > What venue is the concert being held in nashville? > Kris ....I don't think we're supposed to say until after the concert has been held. ~ashley ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #299 ***************************