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Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD ["Brown" ] [EDA] Jewels true rotten self ["Kelli Coppens" ] [EDA] *Jewel* Photos [HaRt0Jewel@aol.com] [EDA] Mandolin [EquusJes@aol.com] FW: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] FW: [EDA] Mandolin ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] Re: [EDA] Mandolin ["Scott Evans" ] [EDA] New flash movie for Jewel Impala / thnx to German fan ["michiel" ] Re: [EDA] Jewels true rotten self ["Brown" ] [EDA] Puyallup Show Recording? [Buster2530@aol.com] [EDA] interesting ["Karacostas, Derrick W." ] [EDA] Re: Jewel on P.I last night ["Joe Kunis" Subject: Re: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD This article pissed me off. The possabilities are nearly endless as to what her resoning may be. Humans have a big problem with choosing a perspective at selfish random. When the view is positive it fades into the background as it is said. When the view's negative it becomes a big deal for no apparent reason. The world sucks. People suck. Why can't it be in our nature to assume validity in the actions of others leading to feelings of understanding rather than smacking ourselves in the face with painful emotions as we close off our minds to the possabilities of perplexing intangible chaos. If Jewel saw or was drawn to the tragidy rather than the "heroic efforts" of the schizophrenic, that may just mean that her mind was intune with sadness at the time. Who isn't. Not helping someone due to confusion within one's self or a bout of paranoia or whatever reason; there can be a reason, and what ever reason one feels is honestly valid; is. Whether people agree or not, the validity of each person's reasoning is held by the reasoning being theirs. You are not any one else and so can't decide what is right for that person.... I can't even decide what's right for me half the time and if you said other wise I think you're lying... possably to your self.... we all lie to ourselves on a regular basis... this all defeats itself by it's existence on this screen. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Casey O'Brien > I came across this article when I was surfing and just thought you might be > interested in reading it. It was interesting to see the reactions of the > family weren't all glowing with praise..... > > http://www.adn.com/search/story/0,2392,225445,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:23:19 -0400 From: "Kelli Coppens" Subject: [EDA] Jewels true rotten self Hey guys Did you read this article yet that Casey posted yesterday?? Sounds like Jewel is NOT the goddess that we all pin her to be! We can all think that but none of us really KNOW her. The people who do know her also know that she doesnt follow what she preaches (sings). Its true that she does sound like she is Cinderella risen up from hell (Alaska) and OBVIOUSLY her family doesnt appreciate her bashing them like that. I have heard that people in Alaska dont really like her... now I know why. Kelli the city angel Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:46:48 -0000 From: "Casey O'Brien" Subject: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD Hey Guys, I came across this article when I was surfing and just thought you might be interested in reading it. It was interesting to see the reactions of the family weren't all glowing with praise..... http://www.adn.com/search/story/0,2392,225445,00.html Casey _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:34:55 EDT From: HaRt0Jewel@aol.com Subject: [EDA] *Jewel* Photos Halo Angels, I was just looking at the pics of *Jewel* in the studio on the website, and I noticed something in mostly all of the photos. She doesnt appear to be too happy, she looks kind of down. She also looks like she is in deep thought in a couple of them. In one she has her back turned, perhaps like "Please stop taking pictures of me" or something. I hope everything is ok. What do you gals/guys think?? :talks to *Jewel*: Jewel...are you ok? Do you need a Hug? Ok, here ya go *HuGs Jewel* ~Tamarrah, the concerned Angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:20:25 EDT From: EquusJes@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Mandolin Hey-- Did anyone notice in the studio pics of Jewel on her website there was a mandolin lined up with the rest of her guitars? Just thought I would point that out.... Jessica the nature angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:35:55 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: FW: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD I really liked this article. While the content doesn't really surprise me much, I am surprised that her family voiced their opinions. I think it's great, and maybe eventually some of this will get back to Jewel. Some people may not agree with this, and that's perfectly fine, but when there are younger singers than Jewel, such as Mandy Moore, who haven't let the "biz" go to their heads, it really saddens me to see someone like Jewel allowing this to occur. I've seen it coming all along, for years, and I guess now her family is counteracting. I'd be too if she was talking about me, and changing things like names and only focusing on the negative. For someone who claims to be a positive person, I think it's ironic she's focusing so much on the negative. I believe her family's responses over any comeback Jewel may have to their statements. Simply because they aren't famous, and have nothing to gain or lose from their words, on the other hand, Jewel has millions of people to try to please and interest. So she's going to be more likely to change things up to make her out to be "better" than she really is. Oh well...it's nothing all that new really, but it is refreshing to see this in writing now, from her own family. We'll see how well her next CD does. :-) Derrick > ---------- > From: Casey O'Brien[SMTP:nightstorm_82@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 10:46 PM > To: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: [EDA] Family Response to CDTD > > Hey Guys, > > > I came across this article when I was surfing and just thought you might > be > interested in reading it. It was interesting to see the reactions of the > family weren't all glowing with praise..... > > http://www.adn.com/search/story/0,2392,225445,00.html > > Casey > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:35:27 -0500 From: "Kristie Biggs" Subject: Re: [EDA] Mandolin I noticed the mandolin. It must be another of her talents. That would be nice if some of her newer songs included a mandolin, it can really add a different almost exotic feel to songs. If I'm not mistaken I believe Joni Mitchell started out on a mandolin because she couldn't afford a guitar at the time. (Just an interesting tid-bit for those interested.) Kristie The Free Angel >>> 04/18/2001 10:20:25 AM >>> Hey-- Did anyone notice in the studio pics of Jewel on her website there was a mandolin lined up with the rest of her guitars? Just thought I would point that out.... Jessica the nature angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:46:03 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: FW: [EDA] Mandolin Another notable Mandolin player is Amy Correia...she's worth checking out if you already haven't. :-) > ---------- > From: Kristie Biggs[SMTP:KristieBiggs@bankunited.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 10:35 AM > To: EquusJes@aol.com; jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [EDA] Mandolin > > I noticed the mandolin. It must be another of her talents. That would be > nice if some of her newer songs included a mandolin, it can really add a > different almost exotic feel to songs. If I'm not mistaken I believe Joni > Mitchell started out on a mandolin because she couldn't afford a guitar at > the time. (Just an interesting tid-bit for those interested.) > > Kristie > The Free Angel > > >>> 04/18/2001 10:20:25 AM >>> > Hey-- > > Did anyone notice in the studio pics of Jewel on her website there was a > mandolin lined up with the rest of her guitars? Just thought I would point > that out.... > > Jessica > the nature angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:52:24 -0400 From: "Scott Evans" Subject: Re: [EDA] Mandolin <> I second Derrick's recommendation.. GetMusic.com has a series called E-Coustic Sessions and Amy was on there... If you have high speed access, it's just like watching TV.. Putting the media player on full screen really doesn't degrade the quality that much.. She is interviewed and then plays three great songs with only her guitar / banjo and a backup musician on cello.. It's great... Check it out =) scott.evans [[crazy is just YOU and ME. AMPLIFIED.]] AOL IM: sevans112 . . . . . scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel - A Jewel Fansite [http://jewel.tanweb.com] cuz the finish line is a shifty thing and what is life but reckoning? and you are still the song i sing to myself when i'm alone . . . . ani difranco - 'reckoning' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:05:15 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: [EDA] New flash movie for Jewel Impala / thnx to German fan hello Jewelfans, Thanks to an extremely talented and dedicated german fan from the site http://come.to/onlyjewel http://come.to/onlyjewel.gallery = The German Jewel Site = has my Jewel Impala a completely new flashmovie. This german fan has many talents and used even woodstock 1999 music from Jewel4s song hands in the opening movie!!! I would say enjoy my new opening movie for my dutch tribute site and comments please to me !!!! Thanks to the german fan who made this new movie possible... greetings, michiel http://www.jewelkilcher.myweb.nl Jewel Impala /a dutch tribute site for Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:53:26 EDT From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: [EDA] response to family post i remember this article being posted a while back. i was very surprised at jewel's family and i evan thought it was fake. it hurts my heart to say this but jewel may have a "bad" side to her. i'm a HUGE fan and i hate to hear stories of celebs getting in trouble with the law, i mean we think they are perfect people just because they are in the public eye and are very talented. i don't want to believe this artcle, anytime i hear someone saying something bad about jewel i get mad. on the other hand, from jewel's perspective, i don't like some of my family members either because of some things they have done but i still love them. so jewels family should think about that. also nedra is a big part in jewels career and personal life. i wonder what she thinks of that article. love always, megan the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:16:03 EDT From: LuckyStarr42@aol.com Subject: [EDA] About that article I read the article as well, but it didn't sour my opinion of Jewel in anyway. It talked about how she left out details of all the good times she spent with her family, but keep in mind, when something bad happens it is branded into your memory. The bad can often taint even the sweetest of memories. And on the matter of making up fake names. Personally I have a cousin who is this horrible person (I won't go into details, but just trust me) and if I were writing a book on my life I think I would change the names as well. Not saying that Jewel's cousin was a horrible person because he was a schizophernic, but I can understand her angle. Also, the main purpose of writing a book is to have people read it. No one wants to write something that would be left on the self, I feel Jewel was merely writing what she thought the public might find most intresting. Also, who hasn't ever embellished on the facts of a situation to make it more exciting, intresting, etc. we might not always do it intentionally because it is human nature. I don't think Jewel should be held to higher standards merely because she is extremely talented. She is a normal person just like every one of us and she has her own human flaws. So pretty much all I am saying is that for any of you who think any less of Jewel after reading the article... just stand back and rethink it. If you still decide that you no longer respect her then that is fine... everyone has the right to their own opinion. I am just merely trying to explain my own... thanks :) ashley staggers the sweet angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:47:38 -0400 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] About that article also, its not a bad thing to change names when writing. it protects the people you're writing about. how would you like it if you were written about in a book, and it talked about your problems, and your real name was used? it would be embarrassing, cause then people would know who you are, just by reading the book. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:55:29 -0500 From: "Brown" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewels true rotten self She's still my goddess, and her uncle may not truly know her either; who really knows anyone any way. She does practice what she preaches, she started a charity for god sake! No one is perfect, and if she was down about the whole schizophrenia thing then it makes sense that she would see things from a negative point of view, I don't think that she was bashing. Give the girl some credit! As for the Alaska gossip... please. Someone else who responded to this article mentioned something about her posing a positive outlook. I don't think this person pays attention to her lyrics. Jewel is a human being with issues like the rest of us. Some days she's happy and some days she may be distraught... all days she is Jewel and very few will truly ever know her completely so cut with the harsh judgements! the scattered angel mike brown - ----- Original Message ----- From: Kelli Coppens > Did you read this article yet that Casey posted yesterday?? Sounds like > Jewel is NOT the goddess that we all pin her to be! We can all think that > but none of us really KNOW her. The people who do know her also know that > she doesnt follow what she preaches (sings). Its true that she does sound > like she is Cinderella risen up from hell (Alaska) and OBVIOUSLY her family > doesnt appreciate her bashing them like that. > I have heard that people in Alaska dont really like her... now I know why. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:55:39 EDT From: Buster2530@aol.com Subject: [EDA] Puyallup Show Recording? EDA's, Hey everyone, I was just wondering if anyone has a nice recording of the Puyallup show from last September? I haven't been able to find it anywhere. Let me know! Thanks! -John ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:09:16 -0500 From: "Karacostas, Derrick W." Subject: [EDA] interesting Ok here's what I've concluded. There are mainly two types of people on this list. Those who would somehow support Jewel if she went out on a shooting rampage, and would somehow ALWAYS justtify her actions no matter what, and then there are those who tend to believe what's really going on behind the scenes, realizing Jewel isn't all she's cracked up to be. I'm sure more than a few on this list knew this quite awhile ago, through various interactions. So it's really nothing new. I just find it amusing that there are those who support her no matter what she does. Like Jewel can do no wrong. That's pretty funny. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:48:29 -0400 From: "Joe Kunis" Subject: [EDA] Re: Jewel on P.I last night Hey guys, What did everyone think of Jewel on Politically Incorrect last night? (It was a repeat.) It was typical of that lame show...4 against 1, one common sense conservative vs. extreme lefty masquerading as an Independant (Bill Maher) and 3 Hollywood (sorry Jewel) misguided bleeding hearts. Jewel didn't really speak all that much, but when she did she seemed to say that she believed government was the be-all, end-all cure for people in this country. None of us like to see and hear about people down on their luck and broke, most people can sympathize, but instead of perpetual funding that bilks us taxpayers and never seems to solve the problem, how about some personal accountability? Instead of government coddling, everyone should take a damn hard look at themselves in the mirror, stop looking at each other as hyphenated-americans and victims... be responsible, and strive to be the best you can be! In this country we have the freedom to achieve greatness. I didn't hear a lot of that on the show last night, but what else would you expect from the fake do-goody LaLA-Land crowd. I think Jewel is a pretty smart cookie, but again TERRIBLY misguided on how to solve a lot of America's problems. This is not meant to start an argument here, people can state honest opinions here and well reasoned replies are welcomed. I just don't understand why critique of Jewel inspires such venomous responses with EDA members sometimes. Jewel's awesome, but not perfect, OK? bye ya'll JOE (Brashboy) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #150 ***************************