From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V6 #56 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, February 16 2001 Volume 06 : Number 056 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [EDA] Jay's away from home for a few days [Jay ] Re: [EDA] something much more important. ["Sandy" ] [EDA] valentine's day [JewelK512@gateway.net] Re: [EDA] valentine's day ["Laurel --<-<@" ] Re: [EDA] valentine's day ["cymbaline" ] Re: [EDA] valentine's day ["Sandy" ] [EDA] Jewel & Dave Matthews Duet [=?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= ] Re: [EDA] something much more important. ["Charles Gregory" ] [EDA] being good-looking to make it famous [ChrissyPf1@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:14:10 -0600 From: Jay Subject: [EDA] Jay's away from home for a few days I will be out of the office starting 02/15/2001 and will not return until 02/17/2001. I won't be able to check mail so I'll get back to you on Saturday or Sunday. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:27:08 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. > Ok. NOW i'm pissed. I got the following email from > this person: > "Charles Gregory" > In response to my post. the email included one word: > "bitch" After reading this, and not really paying attention to who had said what specifically, I decided to see what had provoked this action from him, what I can't understand is that Abigail's post was not in any way offensive to anyone as many of the others about this guy had been (calling him a perv, insulting his iq), as I thought that maybe he was mad from the other side of things, and looking further into it I also found an email from Charles sent to the list with the same 'basic' sentiment as Abby's that the jewel nude pics were wrong.... whoever it was (sorry wasn't paying attention to who was saying what like I said) who said this is an issue of tolerance here is right. If you don't like it, fine, state your opinion, but there is no need to be insulting people on or off the list here as Charles has done, or as a few others have...Abby's post was one I think everyone who felt the need to be rude about this should take another look at. That's the way to deal with your opinion, it comes across a lot better when someone is stating is something in a polite manner regardless of whether or not you disagree with them, then if someone goes as low as to insult someone when the situation obviously does not call for it. I'll grant that at times anger gets the best of everyone, and sometimes insults are "warranted" or at least understandable in a way once a discussion has gone so far, but there is no need to jump to conclusions and go about calling people names and insulting people just because you don't agree with something they did.... ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:43:57 EST From: JewelK512@gateway.net Subject: [EDA] valentine's day I HATE VALENTINE'S DAY!! I had Jewel's song up as my away message that day. Maybe I just hate it because I'm single and I work at a florist... Shannon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:51:37 -0700 (MST) From: "Laurel --<-<@" Subject: Re: [EDA] valentine's day Oh goodness! It can't get worse than that! Maybe just focus on the bright side....people out there are in love...they are doing nice things for someone. Besides, Valentines Day was created by Hallmark anyways!!! Laurel On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 JewelK512@gateway.net wrote: > I HATE VALENTINE'S DAY!! I had Jewel's song up as my away message that day. > Maybe I just hate it because I'm single and I work at a florist... > > Shannon > "When you see the nowness of every moment, there is no room for anything but openness and peace...One begins to realize that whatever we do in everyday life is beautiful and meaningful." Chogyam Trungpa ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:57:45 -0500 From: "cymbaline" Subject: Re: [EDA] valentine's day My boyfriend didn't even CALL me on Valentine's Day. I'm breaking up w/ him anyway.... but thats beside the point. A phone call would have been nice. cymbie tree hugger - -- when night falls it's dawn one must reach for. - -a. camus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:11:14 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] valentine's day > Besides, Valentines Day was created by Hallmark anyways!!! As I already said in another post explaining the origin of Valentines day since so many people on this list are under the same misconception, Valentines day was not created by Hallmark or any other card company/florist/chocolate company. It's a real holiday with a real story and meaning behind it, even though the above type of companies do bleed your wallets dry taking advantage of it... ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:30:39 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: [EDA] Jewel & Dave Matthews Duet Hi! Wouldn't it be just AMAZING if Jewel and Dave Matthews did a duet? I will absolutely love it! :) Imagine: Jewel's sweet, cute, yet powerful voice and Dave's bittersweet, hoarse and gruff voice... what a duet! Who agrees? Take care, Mirko *the angel listening to Listener's Supported's version of #41... definetly my favourite DMB song... Jewel should release something similar... 'Angel Supported' or something like that je je* "In Spanish we use both ? and ? when asking a question for example: '?Cuanto cuesta el pan?'" - --Mirko Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:20:56 -0000 From: "Charles Gregory" Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. I am sorry I got so mad, but the reason is that you said "Jewel is just another person and deserves minimum respect" Now guys I do not think that THAT is AT ALL called for on this list. PLEASE let me know what YOU think. I am sorry I did not know what else to say, I appolagize that I did not give you a chance and I am really NOT a bad person I just did not think that for someone being on a Jewel loving group list, that she should not have bashed Jewel. SORRY! charlie From: Abigail Greif To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] something much more important. Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 14:00:32 -0800 (PST) Ok. NOW i'm pissed. I got the following email from this person: "Charles Gregory" In response to my post. the email included one word: "bitch" In capital letters. I don't know about any of you people, But in my book, that person just doesn't qualify under "EDA". Maybe things have changed while I was away, but I find it unacceptable. If that is the way things work here now, maybe I just don't belong. I know that when someone expresses an opinion, I don't curse them, I give them that very same respect my other post was about. I am just shocked. this has NEVER happened to me on this list, and I have posted many times, and on several contravercial issues. I am speechless. Abby. Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:42:21 EST From: GnG849@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. i agree with charlie on this one folks. megan, the smiley angel =0) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 02:45:03 -0000 From: "Charles Gregory" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel & Dave Matthews Duet Hey! I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!!!!!! Oh my gosh that would be soooooooo great it would be like my most favoritest song EVER!!!!!!! Did you just come up with the idea or is it actually going to happen??? Or did you hear it somewhere? Oh I hope it happens!!!! Guys I know I did a bad thing by writing that letter before! I was SOOOOOO WRONG!!! Please will you guys forgive me? I am really sorry. I do not want you all to hate me. Charlie From: Hotel Angel To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: [EDA] Jewel & Dave Matthews Duet Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:30:39 -0800 (PST) Hi! Wouldn't it be just AMAZING if Jewel and Dave Matthews did a duet? I will absolutely love it! :) Imagine: Jewel's sweet, cute, yet powerful voice and Dave's bittersweet, hoarse and gruff voice... what a duet! Who agrees? Take care, Mirko *the angel listening to Listener's Supported's version of #41... definetly my favourite DMB song... Jewel should release something similar... 'Angel Supported' or something like that je je* "In Spanish we use both ? and ? when asking a question for example: '?Cuanto cuesta el pan?'" --Mirko Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:58:32 -0500 From: "Sandy" Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. > I am sorry I got so mad, but the reason is that you said "Jewel is just > another person and deserves minimum respect" Now guys I do not think that > THAT is AT ALL called for on this list. This may be a Jewel fan list, but it's also a Jewel discussion list, therefore, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If I don't like a particular Jewel song it doesn't mean it's not called for on the list for me to make a comment about not liking it...this goes for anything and everything about Jewel. >PLEASE let me know what YOU think. I think she's right...she deserves just as much respect as the next person, no more or no less for being a celebrity, and I'm pretty sure that's what Abby was getting at... In fact, she doesn't really deserve anymore respect than you'd give to someone you don't know out of courtesy, or that you'd give someone you don't know personally, just because she is a celebrity. > I am sorry I did not know what else to say, I appolagize that I did not give > you a chance and I am really NOT a bad person I just did not think that for > someone being on a Jewel loving group list, This is *not* a "Jewel loving group list", this is a Jewel fan list. We don't have a requirement that we all have to love Jewel in order to be a member of this list...we just all have to be fans. Anything regarding Jewel is "called for" on this list. > that she should not have bashed > Jewel. She wasn't bashing Jewel at all...she was merely pointing out that doesn't deserve our undying love and respect just for being a celebrity, and that she doesn't deserve anymore respect *because* she's a celebrity. That doesn't qualify as Jewel bashing... ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 03:06:59 -0000 From: "Charles Gregory" Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. OK I AM SORRY!!! I did not mean to say "Jewel loving" I meant it like a fan! BUT I do not think that she was bashing Jewel cause she said she does not deserve that much respect as a "celebrity" I think she was cause I think this list IS for people who AT LEAST LIKE Jewel so they SHOULD respect her cause they like her not just cause she is a "celebrity'! SORRY! charlie From: "Sandy" To: "Charles Gregory" , Subject: Re: [EDA] something much more important. Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:58:32 -0500 >I am sorry I got so mad, but the reason is that you said "Jewel is just >another person and deserves minimum respect" Now guys I do not think that >THAT is AT ALL called for on this list. This may be a Jewel fan list, but it's also a Jewel discussion list, therefore, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If I don't like a particular Jewel song it doesn't mean it's not called for on the list for me to make a comment about not liking it...this goes for anything and everything about Jewel. >PLEASE let me know what YOU think. I think she's right...she deserves just as much respect as the next person, no more or no less for being a celebrity, and I'm pretty sure that's what Abby was getting at... In fact, she doesn't really deserve anymore respect than you'd give to someone you don't know out of courtesy, or that you'd give someone you don't know personally, just because she is a celebrity. >I am sorry I did not know what else to say, I appolagize that I did not give >you a chance and I am really NOT a bad person I just did not think that for >someone being on a Jewel loving group list, This is *not* a "Jewel loving group list", this is a Jewel fan list. We don't have a requirement that we all have to love Jewel in order to be a member of this list...we just all have to be fans. Anything regarding Jewel is "called for" on this list. >that she should not have bashed Jewel. She wasn't bashing Jewel at all...she was merely pointing out that doesn't deserve our undying love and respect just for being a celebrity, and that she doesn't deserve anymore respect *because* she's a celebrity. That doesn't qualify as Jewel bashing... ~ Sandy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:07:00 EST From: Wigglytooth523@aol.com Subject: Re [EDA] the current controversy hey angels, I just want to say please don't make sweeping generalizations about people. You run the risk of looking like a total ***. I have known quite a few guys who have made sexist comments about Jewel or a specific body part, and these were high school kids. All spouting such trash have been given a dirty look for being disrespectful to Ms. Kilcher. Also as for a specific angels stats on how many of us would have 'relations' with her. This is another generalization that isnt all its cracked up to be. I am a guy and I think Jewel is absolutely beautiful inside and out. She is not that much older than myself and I've looked up to her, almost like a big sister (i am the oldest in my family and she helped me through some emotional times). So with that in mind the idea of a sexual relationship with Jewel is a complete gross out. Just think before you speak angels- thats my only advise. Eliot ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:30:18 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Garner Subject: [EDA] Pic of Jewel IS fake... Howdy ya'll, A while back, I was doing some extensive work with a friend of mine breaking into porn websites, to see what pics they had of Jewel. I did this to make sure that all the pics I had been hearing about were fakes...they were, all except for the one awards ceremony where Miss Kilcher accidentally wore a see-through gown. I have seen this pic that someone sent me...I have seen it a million times...so take it from me, there are NO PICS OF JEWEL NUDE. I would know, I spent over 7 months going breaking into hundreds of porn sites (most of the stuff I saw was crap photos). Well, that's that. Confederate (Angel of Dixie) Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:04:37 EST From: ChrissyPf1@aol.com Subject: [EDA] being good-looking to make it famous I know it's true that good looks are a major part to almost all fame and they have definitley helped Jewel along the way (she even says so herself in CDTD... but there are exceptions-- I mean look at Barbara Striesand or Bette Midler-- um.... not the best loking chicks-- but they both have HUGE fan followings- There are tons of others too-- : ) - -- Chrissy PS-- Has anyone else gotten CDTD on audio after reading it and realized that there is a lot of stuff left out on the audio version?? hmmm... the drug part, fan autograph part and a bunch more too. : ( ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V6 #56 **************************