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Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [EDA] Last Dance Rodeo [Nucca94@aol.com] Re: [EDA] blast from the past ["Rowdy White" ] [EDA] More on the EDAF Holiday Hunger Project [Barry Howarth ] [EDA] jewel gift [PiecesofKate34@aol.com] Re: [EDA] More on the EDAF Holiday Hunger Project ["~*~Sandy~*~" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:09:18 EDT From: Nucca94@aol.com Subject: Re: [EDA] Last Dance Rodeo seriously, who really cares?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 03:58:19 GMT From: "Rowdy White" Subject: Re: [EDA] blast from the past hehehee, My guess ( and it is the right answer) Mr. Sean Hooks wrote that. And I agree, it was a beautiful description... It made me so sad that I didn't get to see Jewelstock. take care Rowdy (oh, BTW, When I was surfing to research my guess, when I read the subject line "NJC: Someone finally posted my bail", I knew it had to be written by Dennis Harris !) >From: "li'l waternymph" >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: [EDA] blast from the past >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:24:19 -0500 > >"Well, watching Jewel from the dark, I felt the thunder in my heart, she >was an angel, I wanted to believe her, but she did break me, broke us all > >really, and no matter where we sleep or where we are she made an >impression on us. And god knows that to us, the true fans, she will >always >be-the one and only-Jewel." > >guess who wrote this beautiful description on the 21st of july, 1996? it >followed one of the most beautiful well-written letters i have ever read. > > > >and, hinting of what was to come: > >"Hopefully she doesn't become popular and her next album, though I'm sure > >it will be even more radio-friendly than Pieces of You(which was >basically >not at all except for WWSYS, not that it was a sell out song or >anything), >does not sell with really big numbers, because this is how I will >remember >Jewel, this is the way should be seen, the venue and audience respect >will >never be like that again if gets big and famous. I want to see her like >this again." > > > >LUNA > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:00:24 +0800 From: Barry Howarth Subject: [EDA] More on the EDAF Holiday Hunger Project Hi Angels, Yes, Dennis, you're right. There are hungry folk in Australia. The rich have been getting richer and the rest of us have been getting poorer and consequently there are more hungry and homeless the "better" the economy gets. And the plight of so many of our indigenous peoples is our national shame. So there is plenty to be done and many of us are already -- and without any reference to Jewel -- involved in trying to do what we can to alleviate the problems of poverty in our country. I also agree that actively doing something is preferable to the passive giving of money. Like Dennis I do both. I still feel, however, that through the Clearwater project the EDAs can collectively assist Jewel with one of her chosen activities and thereby thank her for what she has done for us. Now, I have two "philosophical/attitudinal" problems with Dennis' proposal. Firstly, Dennis said in his response to me: "I'm sure there are . . . many volunteering opportunities there [in Australia] as well." Well, I don't think you should go looking for "volunteering opportunities". Do what you think needs to be done as an on-going part of your everyday life, not as an occasional "opportunity". Secondly, Dennis said in his original post: "As we've done in the past with the 'everyday acts of kindness' and blood donation projects, the EDAF will compile your stories and forward the results to the Higher Ground for Humanity folks, and ask that they share it with Jewel and Lenedra." Now, it may be a matter of national cultural differences or it may just be me, but the idea of doing "good deeds" and then boasting about it -- and that's what it amounts to -- to try and impress Jewel and Lenedra is, to me, really off (to put it mildly). Big-noting is traditionally not what Australians do (at least not those of the older generations like myself). If there is something to be done, just do it and don't talk about it and don't expect thanks or praise. But without this element the proposal would lose its Jewel focus and doing something for Jewel is what it's all about, as I understand it. I'm really sorry to be negative and I don't mean to disparage what the EDAF does, far from it (if the EDAF was operating here I'd probably participate in it), but part of the way in which Dennis put his proposal and the tone of his response drew me to reply as I have (and to expose my prejudices). Nevertheless, to each his own. As I said before, I can't see why the list can't do both projects. Those who want to participate in the EDAF holiday hunger project can and those who want to support the Clearwater project can do that, as I will. Some may do both. Take care, Barry Howarth Dennis wrote (in part): Actually Barry, I'm sure there are hungry folks in Australia, and many volunteering opportunities there as well. In our "everyday acts of kindness" project, Australian EDAs were very well represented in a variety of activities! I personally know of one Aussie EDA who has expressed an interest in seeing even more of an EDAF presence in your fair country, and is willing to help kickstart it if there are enough EDAs downunder who feel the same way... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:22:00 PDT From: "Ronald I. Nam" Subject: Re: [EDA] Jewel and the Pronoun - Jewel is a slut! What in heaven's name was Jewel thinking?!?! Ah swear, Ah do believe that this little "angel" of ours is nothing but a slut! Nothing but a vixen! A temptress! And dare Ah say it, a whore?!? What kind of proper woman addresses a man by asking him "Do you want to fuck?" in this day and age?!?! That is just wrong, and Ah do believe that we should not support this little boy toy any longer if she continues her deceitful ways. Maybe we should call her Mary Magdalene instead, because she is nothing more than a sinner and should be outcast from society! We should boycott her cds! Boycott her concerts! Boycott her appearances! Ah cannot believe she had the audacity to ask a man for sexual intercourse! What would her own god-fearing mother think of her?!? My mama raised me to be a proper woman, and Ah do not believe that this Jewel is a proper woman any longer. Who here is with me?!?!? Ah feel absolutely let down by this woman Ah used to revere. "They thought blue birds were too sad so they made them yellow." -- Jewel >From: Miguel Gonzalez >To: jewel@smoe.org >CC: "Davies, Matthew (PSU)" , "Medaglia, Elizabeth >Ellen (AOL)" >Subject: [EDA] Jewel and the Pronoun >Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 01:36:45 -0400 > >http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Awful/Archive2000/001019d.html > >Jewel and the Pronoun >Sweet songstress Jewel used a surprisingly >sultry trick to lasso rodeo champ Ty Murray. > >No shocker that Jewel can seem irritatingly >innocent, but the chick was simply cheeky >when she met the horsey hunk. > >In an interview with Fox Sports from the >Laughlin Shootout in Nevada, Ty told the tawdry tale of >how he happened to hook up with his singing sweetie. > >As Ty knew Jewel is a big fan of all things country, T.M. >explained that he sent her rodeo tickets. And when he and >Jewel finally met, she batted her babies and inquired, "So, >do you wanna fuck?" > >Not a tactic that usually leads to long-term love--a roll in >the back of the Dodge, maybe. > > But in this case, the line seems to have worked--the two > are reportedly engaged. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 14:06:57 EDT From: Nucca94@aol.com Subject: [EDA] NJC: Indianapolis?????? are there any EDA's in Indianapolos? well, if so let me know. mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) From: kevin maguire Subject: [EDA] The San Francisco story--I was there! ALSO I was also at the SF show, i wasnt an EDA at the time and didnt even know about you all. Oh by the way HI Jennifer!!! email me back! this is Kevin from Santa cruz...... i have this concert on tape, its not very good quality, its pretty bad i had a crapy tape recorded and i kept it below me and there was like 5 rows of people between me and the speakers so there was a lot of Bass getting thru. i remember the beads being thrown....i also remember there were a TON of people there to see the other Bands such as Cake, and just to chill and the Now and Zen fest. Also the Guy yelled "your an F@#King Sell-out" right after Jewel was telling a story about going to a transvestite (sp?) bar, and doing karokee and this Person at the bar(dont know if it was a guy or a girl or a guy prentending to be a girl or what ever) ask Jewel to sing a song for him/her..it. After that the guy yelled that....then Jewel responded by saying "I'm an F@*king sell out?" that kinda shocked me her cussing but i cuss sometimes if i am really really pissed off or if i hang out with my foul mouth friends..anyways that was just a surprise...since i was in love with this sweet sensitive Awesome person Jewel was/is. Then she said ""why b/c i went to a Transvestite bar?"" i think she was at a lost and trying to say a comeback to the comment. Then she tryed to turn the tables on him and say ""look everybody he's crying.."" i think people laughted....i was like 5 bodies of people away from the stage....and probable about10-20 bodies away from the guy...i was kinda right center stage (facing the stage) and this happend kinda left center....I remember other people around him getting up set, but then i went back to the show... Oh Jen you said you were so close you could see the bruise on her knee...i think i remember that....also i thought i saw Hair on her legs like she hadnt shaved in a week or so....do you remember that?? just wondering =) I think there were a lot of people that didnt care about Jewel, then just went to see other bands to go to a concert on an Awesome Beautiful day in SF., to be with their girlfriends and to DRINK!!!, there were a couple of BIG drunk dudes in front of me, and they were just there to drink and hang with their g/f, they were talking about football and other stuff most of the time Jewel was singing.... I havent read CDTD yet...i've been poor an unable to buy it.....but i am curious to see what it says in that part, and its kinda cool that i was there....we where then Jen! Also i am the guy that has the song Until the Fall....i will try to find the post where that person wanted me to contact them...i am still trying to put it on my computer... Have a Beautiful DAY!! Kevin...the Santa Cruz EDA..... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 15:29:32 -0400 From: Scott Evans Subject: Re: [EDA] CDTD : song question At 07:54 AM 10/25/00 +0200, you wrote: >Hi angels, > >I just finished reading Chasing Down the Dawn, needless to say I loved it >:-) > >Does anyone know what is the song Jewel is talking about on page 131 ??? the >song everyone agreed was a hit material but Jewel didn't like. She said at the chat that it was called "Tough Girl".. Scott Evans -- scott@tanweb.com Planet Jewel -- http://jewel.tanweb.com my page -- http://tanweb.com/scott i look at the cross / then I look away give you the lungs to blow me away i've watched a change in you it's like you never had wings now you feel so alive deftones, 'change (in the house of flies)' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:21:09 EDT From: PiecesofKate34@aol.com Subject: [EDA] jewel gift Hey Angels, I think it is fine if we just cut out the names and glue them too.. but i'm still waiting for more input. kat *the theater angel* :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:36:53 -0700 From: "~*~Sandy~*~" Subject: Re: [EDA] More on the EDAF Holiday Hunger Project > > Secondly, Dennis said in his original post: "As we've done in the > past with the 'everyday acts of kindness' and blood donation > projects, the EDAF will compile your stories and forward the results > to the Higher Ground for Humanity folks, and ask that they share it > with Jewel and Lenedra." Now, it may be a matter of national > cultural differences or it may just be me, but the idea of doing > "good deeds" and then boasting about it -- and that's what it amounts > to -- to try and impress Jewel and Lenedra is, to me, really off > (to put it mildly). Big-noting is traditionally not what Australians > do (at least not those of the older generations like myself). If > there is something to be done, just do it and don't talk about it and > don't expect thanks or praise. > But without this element the proposal would lose its Jewel focus and > doing something for Jewel is what it's all about, as I understand it. In my opinion, I don't find the the compilation of stories and results to be bragging. I don't even think it's a matter of trying to impress Jewel and Lenedra - I can't see how someone could think that it *would* impress them. I think though, that if I was in Jewel's shoes, I would like to know that I made a difference, that I inspired people to do something good. You are right that it shouldn't just be a matter of just volunteering once - but for many it is, at least first. Another way you could look at it is - it's better for someone to do it once then not at all. I think a lot of people have been inspired to help people because of Jewel, and if that's the case, then the stories to me, are not so much bragging as much as a "thank you". "I did this, and it made me feel good, and I don't need nor want praise, but I want you to know that *you* inspired me to do this, to be a better person". It also brings along awareness. People sharing stories of how they helped someone and felt good about it, can only inspire others to want to capture that feeling. I'm sure there are some, possibly many, people out there who do good deeds for and expecting praise, which is horrible, *but* I don't think this is the case here. I love to hear stories about people helping other people, they've inspired me before, and although they shouldn't expect it, or need it, they do warrant a bit of praise for what they do. I think that in this case, sharing the stories with Jewel will just make her feel warm and fuzzy inside - knowing that there are people out there doing good, and that she just might have a little bit to do with it, or even nothing at all - it's kind of a nice way to re-affirm your faith in people - especially amongst the bickering as of late (which I am a little guilty of participating in) and all of the everyday problems that we face. If you feel there is hope - that you aren't alone in wanting the world to be a better place - I think you're more likely to actually reach out and get involved - connect. With making it an EDA project, it makes you want to get involved - sure you can plan on doing good stuff on your own, but with more people involved, you're more likely to get involved. I would *love* to connect with some EDA's and do some great things around Christmas - like many others, I don't have the money to just donate, and I really enjoy getting involved - but there's a lack of Canadian EDA's, or at least one's the live close enough to each other :) If any Canadian's have any ideas, and want to do something, email me privately, and maybe we can find a way to get involved in helping out this year together. ~ Sandy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 20:48:36 GMT From: "Brooke Collins" Subject: [EDA] the "jewel thing" Nobody is mad because of the '96 thing at the state fair at all. It's a long list of things that's happened down the line. AND it's not about being upset at paying to see Jewel seeing as how she never even plays in Alaska. I bought a $100 ticket for the New Years show she cancelled so I'll pay what I have to. It's just frustrating that's all. We were proud to have someone like Jewel come from our homestate. But she's sorta snubbed us and in doing so created a homestate that's she's not so welcome at anymore. But that's not speaking for ME cuz I love her :o). I guess it's just different being from Alaska since we're kinda left out of a lot of things and there's a double standard for stuff too. Eventually people there just have just had enough. Ah well. Maybe she'll come this new year. But i'm not holding my breath. Brooke. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V5 #372 ***************************