From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V5 #112 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Saturday, April 1 2000 Volume 05 : Number 112 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe from this digest, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the BODY of the email * . * For the latest news on what Jewel is up to, go to * the OFFICIAL Jewel web site at http://www.jeweljk.com * and click on "what's new" * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V5 #xxx or the like gives fellow list readers * no clue as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- * EDA Website. Need builders [Big Sexy Angel ] * Disclaimer about post Quiet period of Jewel ["michiel - jewelfan - van ] * an old eda says hi and re:quiet period [HRENB@aol.com] * touchy touchy [Poet2811@aol.com] * Jewel dutch article 3 ["Caroline Ouwendijk" ] * AOL EDAs [ZinzyGurl@aol.com] * Opened Chat Room [Spenser68@aol.com] * NJC: Ohio/KY/Indiana EDAs [ZinzyGurl@aol.com] * The Craft, and complete works of jewel [Linds1156@cs.com] * Re: NJC: Ohio/KY/Indiana EDAs [ZinzyGurl@aol.com] * Re:Jewel's quiet period / Jewel on TV Sunday ["Joe P. Shenk" ] * Does USA hate Jewel???? [=?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: * EDA Website. Need builders Howdy angels, A few weeks ago i created a website on the intent that a few Angels might want to help out and create a page based on whatever aspect of the EDA's or Jewel they wanted. If interested, please reply. Thanks! "Scott S." -Big Sexy Angel "We Were Put on Earth to Make Love, Everything Else We Do Just Helps Pass Time!" P.E.A.C.C.EŠ President/Founder and Proud EDA! http://rocksolid.homestead.com ICQ#9685289 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:18:39 +0200 From: "michiel - jewelfan - van gorkum" Subject: * Disclaimer about post Quiet period of Jewel Jewelfans, Sorry to start a topic twice . But you shouldn't making such rushy replies to my opinion. Maybe i like the music of Jewel a lot, means this perhaps that i shouldn't post my feeling? I like to listen to Jewel and so what is wrong with me? I accept that Jewel is taking a long long time of the music scence if she wants , i never told the opposite. So any Jewelfans living in the USA shouldn't be so offensive towards me. I am just a fan like you and you shouldn't be judging to hard. I never meant to be selfish or something else . I was just philosophing what Jewel's aims would be in the future. It's not about blaming Jewel or not accepting her moves and ideas. Every one should be entitled to have his opinion and to share this with this fanlist of Jewel. So again i feel sorry for those who don't want to hear such emails again. I will not post them anymore if i am behaving too emotional involved in Jewel's career. So sorry for being a fan, i just couldn't think that the eda's would try to blame me asking this on the list. Have a good day and in the end only kindness matters. I do respect every decision of Jewel whatever she will decide. She has indeed given us a lot of music and wonderful poems and thoughts and ideas which helped a lot of us fans on this jewellist. Take care everyone. Michiel a dutch eda http://home.wxs.nl/~gorku004/index2.html Jewel Impala ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 06:52:43 EST From: HRENB@aol.com Subject: * an old eda says hi and re:quiet period hey angels- whats up- i have been very busy and havent posted in probably 3 or 4 months but i still chek the digest periodically and am glad to see that its still growin and mike's still workin hard ;) i've been on the list 3 or 4 years now i guess and have meet a lot of cool people from my iowa- california-illinois moves...and now im looking to move again - probably to atlanta georgia area or tampa / clearwater area...why ..dont ask alls i know is im a ramblin man and the wind blows me many directions and when she calls i must follow. so if any old edas ivbe mety or maybe future ones from tyhose areas wanna drop me a line id be glad to hear from you.ive luved jewel since the early days and have been fortunate enough to see her five times.... which leads to the second part of my letyter the amusing discussion of Jewel's "quiet period"- my thoughts - i love it - i hope shes chillin and relaxin and away from all the corporate suits and flashing lights and hubbub that goes along with celebrity and my sincere hope is that this "quietness" will continue into her writing because to be quite blunt i am hoping for something like "pieces of you II" in terms of songwriting and honestly i was slightly disappointed with the overproduced songs and videos from spirit. im sure some will disagree and say you have top accept her growth blah blah blah but we all are entitled to our opinions and thats mine. in my mind she is a folk singer who is most deadly with the weapons of just her voice and her guitar- the band is nice occasionally- peace and love to all WOLF - (barry) the jeopardy eda heineken angel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:39:02 EST From: Poet2811@aol.com Subject: * touchy touchy Hey guys, You know. We are all so touchy. A few people jumped on Michiel and practically tore his flesh away when he mentioned the "quiet period." The poor boy was just stating an opinion. I am so sick of being afraid "Should I post this on the list, this may start an argument," It really does defeat the whole purpose of discussion. We should just calm down. If you don't agree with someone and what they say there is no reason to start accusing people of being "selfish." It was a simple comment that got blown up into selfishness. I mean, come on. I say this, not only because of the reply to Michiel post, but also because of some of the other "issues" that have surfaced on the list. I won't mention any of them because god forbid that I start an argument with an opinion. Rachel *the only slightly lonely poetic angel waving at jack* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:35:16 CEST From: "Caroline Ouwendijk" Subject: * Jewel dutch article 3 Hi! Since everyone seems to be getting a little restless and repetitive speech is not uncommon, I have decided to translate another piece of the Dutch Article from the magazine ONE :) BE AWARE OF THE STUPID AND IGNORANT COMMENTS OF THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE..(sorry not trying to give my opinion..just had to say that :)) Ok here we go : DATE WITH A SOAP STAR Pieces of you became 8 times platinum, she appeared in cheesy talkshows , sang at the Superbowl, participated in a Sing-a-long night full of easy-listening at Madison Square Garden and got a make over for the cover of VOGUE. Her clast tour was sponsored by Tommy Hilfiger. She dated male model Michel Francouer, and she dated soap-star Christopher Douglas. All the roughness that made her cool, has been lost. What happened to the shabby troubadour? "The success, and most of all the fame, overwhelmed me" Jewel admits. "I rebelled against the press , who were only copying things of one and other, and began to make tougher music because I thought it would be the cool thing to do. None of this was released. When I listen to the tapes it feels like it wasn't even me. I just sounded angry. This is a weak position to write from. And it was a little cliche to think that 'middle of the road' couldn't be cool." She lost the anger as a result of trying to combine worldfame and being truthful to herself. " When I wasn't famous yet, every song I wrote, was my own. As I write songs about things close to my heart, it all made sense. But when I suddenly had a hit, the songs belonged to everyone, and everyone had something to say about it. I am sensitive , so I took it personal. It then became clear that I had to follow my own path, if I wanted to keep enjoying it all. But it is very hard to stay on that path if everyone is trying to take you in another direction. It is hard to stay pure in a situation like that." Increasing Frustrations Pure, a typical Jewel-word that stands for honesty,clear, truthful, straight-forward. She is convinced that she is all of the above. People mistakenly see her as someone with arrogance. But, didn't she create those opinions herself? With anger, tears about bad reviews and screaming at journalists who, in her eyes, didn't try hard enough to understand her. And then there was Ride with the Devil, a western drama set in the American civil war. It was the first time Jewel was in front of the camera. The movie was directed by Ang lee, a director who is not known for his angry moods, but during the taping the frustrations were clearly apparent. " I underestimated how hard it would be for her to keep up with experienced and talented actors" he says. " After the first week the tension luckily decreased". What Ang Lee however doesn't tactfully mention, is the fact that Jewel acted like quit the diva on the set. " I think it was lack of experience" says a co-worker who wishes to remain anonymous, " but she did a lot of things that were very distracting. As soon as the camera was pointing in another direction, she started to rehearse her lines outloud and doing little dances. She didn't stay with her part and was easily frustrated:' Ahhrg I can't believe we have to do this again..' she just made it hard for everyone. She also irritate other actors, by playing her guitar and by speaking to crew members with a little baby -voice. She treated them like imbeciles. " Oh may I please have a glass of water?' she would squeak. The after to someone else, that's how you should treat them." "To be honest I don't know what you are talking about" Jewel responded. " But I think they probably didn't understand me. I tend to joke around allot. One time I came into the cafeteria and said 'Everybody out !' , they didn't get it was a joke. They expect me to be this music diva , while in fact I actually always make fun of that. I had to stop making those jokes because they took me seriously. And about that baby voice,, have you ever heard how idiotic everyone talks to actors? ' Can I do anything for you, Massage your neck, peel an apple, kiss your royal butt ??? I was just making a joke of that too..." ok everyone :) I told you it wasn't going to be pretty :) Just remember there are always people who are filled with jealousy and try to tell Jewel down.. I know it isn't true, and that's enough 4 me :) Next weekend I will probably write the last part of this article, so if your interested keep your eyes open :) have a great week :) Caroline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:00:57 EST From: ZinzyGurl@aol.com Subject: * AOL EDAs Hey all you AOL EDAs. On Sunday night, let's all try to meet up in a private chat room, titled EDA, at 10PM Eastern Time. Check time zones to find out your time. If this is cool with everyone, let me know, and maybe we could make this a regular thing! Gina EastAngel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 11:55:19 EST From: Spenser68@aol.com Subject: * Opened Chat Room Hi everyone! due to the lack of my typing skills and unable to keep up with "im's" half a message here half over there lol. so i opened a new chat in in the "arts and entertainment of "find a chat" and you have to go to the "list more" because its wayyyy down towards the bottom. Peace everyone.. oh yea itsa called :"jewel chat" hope to see you there. SP ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 14:16:32 EST From: ZinzyGurl@aol.com Subject: * NJC: Ohio/KY/Indiana EDAs Any of you who are interested, I posted about a week or so ago about a gathering. I have picked a tentative date, so mark your calendars for Saturday, May 29th. Email me if you are seriously interested, and if you live really close, if you want to help me organize this further! Gina EastAngel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:26:12 EST From: Linds1156@cs.com Subject: * The Craft, and complete works of jewel Hi everybody, Just wanted to let u know that the Craft is on tonight on the sci-fi channel. Check your local listings for the time. (Jewel has a song in this) And I have a question. What exactly are The Complete Works of Jewel Kilcher tapes? how many are there? and what's on them? Thanks alot, Lindsay ~The Notting Hill Angel Check out my angelfood page at http://www.angelfire.com/la2/angelfood/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:08:52 EST From: ZinzyGurl@aol.com Subject: * Re: NJC: Ohio/KY/Indiana EDAs Yes...I realize I am replying to my own post LoL Memorial Day weekend is not a good weekend to have a gathering I realize. I didn't realize that was what weekend I had picked. I simply picked it b/c it is my last weekend in Ohio, before I move to California. Maybe the weekend before. Email me if you are interested! Gina :~) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe P. Shenk" Subject: * Re:Jewel's quiet period / Jewel on TV Sunday - --- Jwlfan112@aol.com Writes: > Did we not just have this discussion two weeks ago or so? And didn't the same person start it? No offense, but could we please stop the obsession with her starting up again, and just focus on what she has already done for many of our lives.. I posted my message to the list about Jewel saving my life hoping it would spark some inspiration to others to share their stories too.. BTW - thanks to people who responded to my message.. I'm glad y'all could relate to it.. > Hi , Folks . I wholehearedly agree with Scott . This on-going obsessiveness is getting really tiresome ... Are we going to have the same subject to wade through every two weeks , for perhaps , the next two years ... ? Natalie Merchant , another wonderful , prolific singer-songwriter with a beautiful voice ... is taking off two-three years , to regenerate , and write new material . It's not unlikely , that Jewel will want something similar . Are we going to be begging for new material and appearances all throughout a potential two-three year period of time , Or , are we going to go on with our lives ? Also , if you don't mind , I'd really prefer not being referred to as " Angel babies ." Don't forget ... Jewel is on Nickelodeon's Nick News , Sunday Evening , 8:30-9:00 pm Eastern/Pacific time ( confirm time in your local listings ) . Have a nice Sunday . --Joe ===== folk_rock@yahoo.com My Home Page --Currently on KOSOVO , etc. : http://www.geocities.com/joeshenk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 16:52:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe P. Shenk" Subject: * Re: Jewel Film Honored Hi , All . Does anyone have any more info. about this ... What was it like ? Will the show be repeated any time ? > > (InfoBeat, 3/27/00) Jewel's 'Ride With the Devil' Receives Harry Award (JewelJK.com) - Jewel's foray into film, "Ride With The Devil," was recently profiled and received high praise on the History Channel. The Civil War drama, in which Jewel portrays the young widow Sue Lee Shelley, took home the award for Best Movie at the 2000 History Channel--Harry Awards. > Thanks . --Joe ===== folk_rock@yahoo.com My Home Page --Currently on KOSOVO , etc. : http://www.geocities.com/joeshenk __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:12:48 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Hotel=20Angel?= Subject: * Does USA hate Jewel???? Hi angels!!! I just wanted to know how is Jewel doing in the States... are people there against her? I'm from Peru, so I don't know really... I started thinking about this because a friend told me that Jewel was for geeks... (not a lot of peruvians like Jewel, she's not that famous here...) and I told him that no way... (plus, I don't believe in stereotypes)... he based himself in the sipcom "POPULAR" he said they talk bad about her... One episode they mentioned that the thing about her living in her van was false. And one second episode the "popular" girls were finding a famous person to do "I-don't-know-what" and they asked Gwyneth Paltrow, but she refuced and said find someone like Jewel (no idea what she meant), and the girls said NO WAY WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE LIKE JEWEL. And also, the "popular" girls always make fun of the "geeks" for liking Jewel. I really care less what they say in popular, but this just got me thinking... why are they against her? Because she's not POP? I really HATE pop, it's such a meaningless music. Someone who saw the episode or anyone please tell me what's happening??? He also told me that they spoked bad about her in Dawson's Creek, but that I don't believe, because she's friend with the writer, right? (Kevin Williamson¨), plus, lots of her songs have been featured there. Just wanted to say my opinion... Mirko *just listening to Don't, great song!* ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V5 #112 ***************************