From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #700 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, December 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 700 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Something New ["Erin Benoit" ] subject change:how I started on the list [angel418@juno.com (Karen I Mu] "I'm Sensitive" [Kkosteva@aol.com] Jewel & Publicity ["Jeremy Mull" ] behind the wall ["Barry" ] Canadian EDA's: Jewel on Fashion Television [MelDerI@aol.com] Re: "I'm Sensitive" [Jay Christoph Johnson ] Jewel: what else? ["Joe Leamon" ] Odd? ["Lora Browne" ] New to list [Eric ] The WHOLE Jewel thing!!!!! (Everyone PLEASE read!!!) [dijewe1@juno.com ] new jewel? [kvia@mail.apcnet.com (Kevin Via)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:16:02 PST From: "Erin Benoit" Subject: Something New Hello EDA's I am fairly new here, so I don't know anyone really and I'm sure none of you really know me. I have posted a few times but not recently. I would like us all to start a new subject, a new topic or whatever. I believe we can drop the issues pressing us now on the list (eg: Jewel bashing or what kind of character Jewel is) So, I'm just going to throw out a few questions and I want to be overloaded with responses! Okay? GREAT! I'll post all the main points later on. Here goes: 1. If you had the opportunity to meet Jewel one-on-one and could only ask her one (1) question...what would it be? 2. Which song on Spirit is your favorite and why? Details!! 3. Which line from any one song is your favorite Jewel 'saying?' and why? 4. If you could ask every EDA one thing, what would it be and why? Thanks for reading and I'll be looking forward to reading all your responses. *********************************************************** "Let your words enslave no one and the heavens will hush themselves to hear our voices ring out clear" ~ Jewel Kilcher, 'Life Uncommon' Angel of the Zodiac ************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 21:22:46 -0500 From: angel418@juno.com (Karen I Murry) Subject: subject change:how I started on the list Hello everyone, my name is Karen B.K.A. Angel Princess. I think that the list is a little too tense right now, and so I decided to start something new. About two years ago (I think), I was flipping through the channels (of course the only three channels I watch religiously:MTV, VH1, and the BOX) and I came across a beautiful woman singing in a bathroom stall on MTV. I said to myself, "who the hell in their right mind would actually have a video in a bathroom?" Then, I saw just the feet of all these people in the stalls. I listened to the whole song, and I honestly thought it was stupid. After the song began to become overplayed on MTV, I actually sat there and listened to every single word that came out of her mouth. The tune became stuck to my brain, and next thing I new I was humming to WWSYS while walking in the hallways of my retarded school. She began sound like more of an angel, then of any normal singer. A friend of mine was listening to POY, that she had just bought, and I thought it was bad even though I only listened to Pieces of You. One day, for the sake of shopping, I bought the cd (don't tell me that no one out there has never just bought a cd just for the sake of spending money. I know you all do it.) and I listened to every song. Well, my best friend and I were in my room, listening to the cd, and we were actually mimiking the words. Acting them out, as you should call, when we came across Foolish Games. At the time, I was in a very disfunctional relationship with a guy who was 23 when I was 15, and he treated me like he was using me for my body (don't get me wrong, I never slept with him), and he ended up cheating on me. When I actually listened to Foolish Games for the first time, I started crying. Not hysterically, though. It was more of a weep. In front of my best friend, mind you. We both were actually in tears (I think she just needed a man. She could have had mine if she wanted...) That's when I first fell in love with Jewel. I didn't care what she was like in person, I just wanted her to continue singing. A person should only love someone by the way they feel, not by what other people tell them. I was cutting out pictures of my favorite celebrities out of magazines, and taping them to my wall, when I opened a TWIST magazine. I never read TWIST. I still don't read TWIST, but this one time I did. That's when I found this list. I have an adopted mother (Kelly) and father (Mark), and they took care of me very well. Giving me as much angelfood that I can possibly imagine. I continuously listened to CARNIVOUR litterally over 2,000 times. Then, this crap about Jewel started. About her being a bitch and all (yes, this same subject came up a year ago), sooner or later I was getting 80 messages on how egotistical, and bitchy Jewel was. I got so tired of it. I didn't even say I was getting off the list, I just canceled my whole e-mail address all together. I was so sick of it. A year later, I was listening to my old Jewel tapes, and I had just bought SPIRIT. I missed the list, and figured that the whole bitch thing should have been over by now. SO, I went back on. Here I am. I even have two adopted children. A daughter (Helin) and a son (Amias). I am making a tape for Amias right now. But now this whole bitch crap is starting up again, and I am starting to get sick of it again. Fortunately, I will not give up on you guys, and I won't quit. Seriously, right about what you really love about Jewel, and why you are REALLY on this list. Then you might realize that no matter what happens, Jewel is still the main reason why we are here. Love, Karen ~Angel Princess ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:16:30 EST From: Kkosteva@aol.com Subject: "I'm Sensitive" "I have this theory that if we're told we're bad, Then that's the only idea we'll ever have. But maybe if we are surrounded in beauty, Someday we will become what we see." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 18:51:19 -0800 From: "Jeremy Mull" Subject: Jewel & Publicity Hello, This is going to come across hypocritical but I don't know how else to make my point. Every "hot" topic on this list dies down within a week or two. The sooner people stop posting about something the sooner it goes away. Feel free to voice your opinions- that is always more then welcome. But it seems like there are three types of EDA's...the bashers, the defenders, and the "somewhere in between" group. The basher and defender groups have the diehards that will have a certain mindset no matter what. I can't agree with the idea of coming to Jewel's rescue whenever she gets some bad publicity. But bashing her every chance you get doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. Either way, there's a chance you're going to come across as closed-minded or bitter. Regarding the interview... it's a shame that it happened. It bugs me when people are rude. For some reason though, I don't consider Jewel to be a rude person so I move past it a little quicker then somebody else might. Of course that might be because of this giant fraud, which is known as the Jewel List with all its spin-doctors and whatnot. (That was a joke; I've never suspected ulterior motives for the Jewel List). All joking aside, if it hurts anybody it'll hurt Jewel. Like someone posted earlier she might end up apologizing to for what happened. I doubt she's looking for a lot of bad publicity right now. If she said, "hey I'm sorry I lost my cool the other day, I've been under difficult circumstances, but I shouldn't have taken it out on you," I think the majority of people would have been understanding. If she doesn't it'll be some bad publicity from one interview out of thousands. Big deal! She's not letting me down and I don't think she owes me anything, just like I don't owe her anything. The sun has come up and down in my town since it's happened though. Life goes on... "Hot" topics die down... then a new one pops up a few weeks later. Where the bashers and defenders will do most of the posting. I know I haven't helped let the discussion die down by posting about it. It won't happen again though, I promise. After all who wants to contribute to the complaining cycle more then once. When somebody complains about all the complaining then they've left an opportunity for somebody else to complain about him or her complaining. May today be the best day of your life and tomorrow even better, Jeremy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1998 03:37:41 -0000 From: "Barry" Subject: behind the wall i know "behind the wall" (as heard on rare angels) is acappella - but does anyone have guitar chords that go with it? thanks Barry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:52:59 EST From: MelDerI@aol.com Subject: Canadian EDA's: Jewel on Fashion Television Hey EDA's, This is for all Canadian EDA's who have access to City TV. Tomorrow, Dec. 13, at 6:30 pm, Jewel will be shown on Fashion Television. I was told by my friend that she was on it today (Saturday), but I missed it, so I checked out City TV's website and lo and behold, they say that there is a repeat on Sunday. Now, I don't know if they'll show the repeat of the show where Jewel was on, or if they'll have one of their older episodes. I guess we'll just have to see. For those of you wondering, my friend said that Jewel was being interviewed while lying down and getting her makeup done. Most likely talking about fashion. :) That's all for now, :) Melissa the angel who learned how to drive. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 22:06:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jay Christoph Johnson Subject: Re: "I'm Sensitive" Someone posted an except of the lyrics to "I'm Sensitive" because they seem relevant to the current state of affairs, so I'll follow suit. Here is a poem that Jewel sent to the list a while ago which I came across when I was browsing through the archives. If you take the time to read it, I think you might agree with me that it could be meaningful now. Jay J. ============================================== "poem written at the airport cafeteria 6/12/95 after reading a bad press review" I think of the scrutiny and shrink beneath its million eyes has she gained weight? does blue become her? is she losing her light? Never "My I believe her intent is growing, if not her skill" Never noticing deaths Misfigured face in perfection or beauty in the awkward struggle of a new direction We've become fascinated With the fixed We possess all the curiosity of a cul-de-sac as though the honor lied in the mastering of the menial It can not be the end for which we live That is death, But for the struggle that keeps us young Daring to make mistakes Knowing there are none. Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 21:57:53 -0600 From: "Joe Leamon" Subject: Jewel: what else? Wow, where to begin. I started subscribing to this listserv (my first listserv, btw) because I like Jewel and her music and figured, well, I didn't know quite what to expect. The last few weeks have been very enlightening, I must say. This is my first and last post, because frankly it's a waste of ether. Some of you people should be ashamed of yourselves. Fans or not, you don't have the right to talk about people you DO know in the way I've read some of you talk over the last couple of weeks, much less someone you just read about or even have met briefly, trying to dissect her like she's some aunt you never liked. It seems you forget the entire reason that you know about Jewel Kilcher at all, and that's her music. Are you so offended that this precious little angel of yours got a little testy with some smarmy radio talk-show host that you have to dig up every little past character flaw that you ever read? What'd she do, run over your cat? I can remember the first time I ever heard Pieces of You: I used to co-host a radio show with the music director (hi Belinda!) of my school's station (FM 89.1, Naperville, IL for the plug), and on Sunday afternoons we had a show called (unoriginally, granted) Rock News where we played the new music for the following week and occasionally had an "honorable mention" for a song that, though it didn't fit the format of the station, the MD thought deserved air time. I'd never heard of her before, but I'm so glad that I had a small hand in introducing her to Chicagoland radio (Q101 can go fart) and even more happy that her music was introduced to me. I don't know about all this angel stuff (my personal feeling is that she sings with the voice of God's inner child, but that's another matter), but her music is precious to me. I still beat my head against the wall to White Zombie or Metallica during the day, but it's Jewel who sings me to sleep at night. But I digress... I was going to comment more on some of the various postings that I've seen since I've become a member of this listserv, but I don't think that there's really a point to that. I just think that condemning someone for merely human qualities and behaviour is about as silly as praising them for that same humanness. I guess we all have a lot of growing up to do, but I know that continuing to participate, even passively, here isn't at all constructive nor is it positive. Goodnight, goodbye, and I hope each of you finds whatever it was that you lost. Joe, a most unpopular angel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:23:49 -0800 From: "Lora Browne" Subject: Odd? Does anyone else find this extremelly odd? Jewel is 24 or whatever, a youngin, and well she's writing her life story? She hasn't even lived out half her life, assumingly, and here she goes telling this biography, I mean I don't care how much you have gone through...you shouldn't go writing your biography until you're at least old enough to have lived life. Love ya long time till I split open and melt, Lora ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 20:36:35 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Subject: New to list HEY fellow Jewel fans! My name is Eric and I am 17 years old! I have been a Jewel fan since I saw her on "Wizard of OZ" in concert...and then I went out and bought "Pieces of YOu" which was like the only copy in the BACK section of the store...this was WAY before "POY" hit millions of sells and really before anyone knew who she was. ANyway, I've been a fan ever since and I LOVE "Spirit"--every time I listen to it I like it even more! My fav songs are "Deep Water", "Life Uncommon", "Down So Long", and "What's Simple Is True". That's just from "Spirit"....well, I'll shutup now. Can't wait to start discussing Jewel! -Eric == "It was everything I had NOT wanted There were reasons to be crazy" -Stevie Nicks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 19:42:47 -0800 From: dijewe1@juno.com (Diana Ruiz) Subject: The WHOLE Jewel thing!!!!! (Everyone PLEASE read!!!) Hey everyone, In case you don't know who started this whole thing, It was me!!!!!!! I certainly did not post it so that everyone would start arguing!!!!!! I just wanted to let you all know. Yes I was a little upset at first but it's over guys, give it up!!!!! If people stopped liking Jewel after that short interview, the maybe they weren't fans from the start!!!!!!! Yes, I though what she said was a tiny bit on the rude side, but like everyone says, shes going through a lot!!! I know when theres a lot on my mind, I just start telling everybody stuff!!!!!!! But like someone else said, "WE'RE ALL HUMANS!!!!!!" Yes Jewel is VERY special to me and that will always be. Nothing anyone says, anyone as in her, herself, will make me stop feeling that way!!!!!! Okay, so, I just wanted to clear this up. I sent to post to inform you, not to separate you!!!!!! Everyone is starting to go their own ways!!!!! Lets just forget about the whole thing. If some people on the list stopped like Jewel over this, then like I said, maybe they weren't fans (don't flame, I'm just saying) in the first place or they haven't known her as well as some of us on the list do!!! A wise man (MrBB) once told me, "don't let any J-bashing get you down, stay happy & don't let angry people get ya down!" So that's what I'm going to do, and that's what we all should do. At least for the holidays!!!!!!! Well, I've said whet I have to say and please, lets not hear about the topic again!!!!!! Happy holidays!!! {\O/} /_\ Diana an EDA FOREVER!! "Might as well smile, 'cause there's no point in being mean, guess that's just, What you get, When you forget to dream" *Nikos* ~Jewel~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:39:10 -0500 From: kvia@mail.apcnet.com (Kevin Via) Subject: new jewel? Hello all, Well here's what I think about the Bitchy Jewel everybody is thinking about. In response to Sean Hooks earlier post I'd like to say I agree. I don't think she has changed from this nice person to this mean person suddenly. I think she has simply become more secure and comfortable being "rude." Her music is great and I will continue listening to it. Part of enjoying good music is knowing where it came from though. I'd like to think of Jewel as a nice person but certainly she isnt always. Maybe she should remember other people are sensative and that she can hurt other peoples feelings. I think when people get angry it's because they are being selfish. Jewel getting mad at that guy in that interview was the result of her being selfish. If she was worried about his feelings she wouldn't have done that. I feel sort of bad for that guy. I think Jewel needs to relise that part of being a celebrity means that you are in the spotlight. If Jewel wants to have a positive impact on people then she needs to say positive things. Nobody is perfect but if you want to be in the spotlight make your words count because it's far more influencing as a famous artist then as a normal person like you or me. your eda, Kevin Via ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #700 ***************************