From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #690 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, December 9 1998 Volume 03 : Number 690 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hipocricy? [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] rollng stone article ["Taryn Pratzner" ] Jewl article in New Zealand Herald/Christchurch Star ["Kim Lees" > I think this song is saying that those who are "OK" are those who care about the world, who aren't prejudice like those in Pieces of You, those who aren't "unbelievers" as Jewel calls them. There are bad pepole in our society and Jewel isn't singing to them -- they are the "men who have no voices" while she's singing to those who will sing loudly. - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Dec 1998 07:56:30 PST From: "Taryn Pratzner" Subject: rollng stone article eda's~ oOoh the beautiful stuff! this is one of the best articles i've seen on jewel! i mean it really made her seem so human and so down to earth and dude i was like completely like in awe of this writer by the end. i mean in the begin he really was moking some of her song and by the end her was saying he was like sorry for it. but the last line really made me realize why i liked her. she makes me feel good about myself. i mean i can be all down :(and listen to her music read a few poems look at my poetry mural thingy and just feel good :)cuz i can relate to it. any way just my thought on it. love Taryn the off the wall angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:51:28 +1300 From: "Kim Lees" Subject: Jewl article in New Zealand Herald/Christchurch Star Hi Angels!!! this was in today's (Wednesday) Christchurch Star but it's I think it's just a reprint of an article from the New Zealand Herald that was published a few weeks back... it was too hard to scan with OCR so I ended up typing it out (took half an hour!!!) :-) Happiness. Thoughtfulness. Optimism. What does Jewel know that the rest of the 90s’ music stars don’t? Russell Baillie asks the singer-songwriter a few questions Jewel ­ this year’s cheerleader Her debut album sold 10 million copies. It got her on the cover of Rolling Stone and Time. She became a millionaire a few times over at 22 with the songs she wrote at 19, a time when she was living, on and off, in her car. Along the way she released a collection of poems which became a bestseller and got her first movie part with a celebrated director. Her name is Jewel and when it comes to all of the above, she’s still as surprised as the rest of us. “I don’t think I have ever stopped being surprised,” she says, a girlish chuckle coming down the line from New York. “Ten million records off a record like that… a folk record, for Pete’s sake, at the height of grunge and jade cynicism, is really unusual. “I am not a very hyped, marketed kind of girl. I am real sensitive, sincere, just pretty simple and thoughtful. And it’s such an odd thing for it to be popular.” But popular she is. And if Alanis Morissette is the queen of inward-looking therapy pop, Jewel is the folk-pop princess of sincerity, spirituality, humanitarianism... and the occasional song about having your love-life hit the rocks. No, not necessarily New Age, but what she calls a “practical optimism.” Like Morissette, she’s had an interesting and much-discussed past. Jewel Kilcher grew up in a log cabin in Alaska, started singing at a precocious age with her folk-singing parents who later split up, and lived in her car in San Diego before being discovered as a coffee-house folk act. “I feel lucky that I had an unusual childhood. I was exposed to some things that a lot of people aren’t. It gave me a real sense of myself at a very young age. It was fairly clear I had a strong sense of wanting to help injustice. I was exposed to a lot of hard things. So about age 18, after I was living in my car, it was like I knew why I was doing what I was doing. It wasn’t to be liked, to be famous, to be rich. “It was to continue my journey of my own happiness, my own thoughtfulness and my own wakefulness as well as help other people that were in the position that I was in of homelessness…” Normally this sort of talk ­ and she goes on to explain how she’s sharing her good fortune, having formed with her mother-manager a charitable foundation called Higher Ground for Humanity ­ would have the cynical journalist supressing a smirk. But Jewel makes it sound kind of endearing and, well, sincere. And clearly she doesn’t care what the likes of us bitter-and-twisted types might think of her general hippiechick-ness. Now she’s about to find out how popular she is all over again. She’s been working on her first movie, the Civil War drama “Ride with the Devil,” under celebrated director Ang Lee (“Sense and Sensibility”, “The Ice Storm”). But the real test comes with the release of her second album, titled ­ somewhat predictably ­ “Spirit”. It’s her first proper album. The debut “Pieces of You” was a self-produced, acoustic-based collection of studio and live tracks. This is more considered work, casting her voice against a low-key backing. That 10 million-seller, she says, was “just a very honest Polaroid of who I was when I was 19.” “So at least this way you saw me as who I was in all my awkwardness and potential, on this one you see me as I’ve grown.” “I’ve always been limited by my technical ability with my hands. Guitar is my newest instrument. I’ve been singing and writing all my life, so all I know is three chords, so every song is going to come out as a folk song. As I begin to get my hands at a point where they can articulate my thoughts musically more concisely and accurately, you’ll begin to hear what is inside of me.” From Polaroid to x-ray, then. But there’s more to it than that. Ask her to sum up what “Spirit” is about and it’s a case of, “Hold on for the world,” according to Jewel. “I guess I would say it’s an antidote to what makes out hearts heavy in the world, and it’s a very realistic practical optimism, which is different to blind optimism, which is denial and that’s different than cynicism.” “You have to keep your heart open and not get bitter. So the record is how to keep yourself alive in the middle of it.” While Jewel, bless her, uses her music in a sincere belief she is trying to make the world a better place. Even if she doesn’t get another 10-million seller. “This year’s cheerleader, is the way I look at it. My goal is to be a good humanitarian as well as a good songwriter.” - New Zealand Herald Kim Lees Your New Zealand Angel Standing By ICQ# 9270797 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ check out Kim's JEWEL Shrine... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/7485/jewel.html includes a Real Audio section of over 100 songs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Five years worth of kisses are packed in your bags In this tiny moment fits all the big things we never had And I can't quite pinpoint when it left or what for Love always steps lightly away from the door" Jewel Kilcher - "Studies In Love #12" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 02:41:52 EST From: JDeanrulz@aol.com Subject: Re: About the article from globe and mail. >Does anyone else here find it hard to belive almost every single word of >this article?? Especially this part. I just find it hard to belive that >her personality fluctuates that much. Compare this article to the >Rolling Stone article. I just don't get it. What made this article hard to swallow for me was the reference to her "relationship" with Sean Penn. Obviously this guy didn't do his homework and had obviously made up his mind about her when he did the interview. Kinda hard to take him seriously when he can't get his facts straight. From Anaheim, CA, This is JD Signing off ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 02:38:11 EST From: JDeanrulz@aol.com Subject: Re: Hipocricy? I think this difference in messages could be part of what Jewel was talking about when she was explaining why she decided against the recordings she had previously done for her second album. She said that those songs didn't fit her anymore, that they didn't reflect who she was anymore. Remember, when she recorded POY she was 19 and had just come out of a very hard time in her life. I think the different message of Spirit reflects her growth from the person she was at 19 to the person she is now. Remember, people are always chall I can say isnging......especially during their early twenties. A 19 year-old Jewel saw the world very differently than she does now. A 30 year-old Jewel will see it even differently. I just hope I'm still around to hear about it. From Anaheim CA this is JD Signing Off ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 03:56:47 EST From: Puro1st@aol.com Subject: "indulged young pop star...?" In a message dated 98-12-09 01:07:56 EST, you write: =========================================== Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 19:25:49 PST From: "Greg White" Subject: About the article from globe and mail. >she behaves a lot as you'd imagine an indulged young pop star would, >refusing to shake hands, dismissing her middle-aged handlers in >haughty tones and, when the phone rings, lifting the receiver and >immediately hanging up with an impish giggle. >"That was my next interview," she said with a smirk. "He's thinking, >'Whata bitch!' " Does anyone else here find it hard to belive almost every single word of this article?? Especially this part. I just find it hard to belive that her personality fluctuates that much. Compare this article to the Rolling Stone article. I just don't get it. ======================== In response: No Greg, unfortunately I do not. It's funny, I've gone through something of a grieving period with Jewel. I first heard her a little over 4 years ago and absolutely fell in love with her voice, innocence, message, mannerisms, etc... I mean, who wouldn't? Here she is, a young, incredibly intelligent, insightful, soulful, beautiful young woman singing sweet songs that make us feel better about ourselves and the world we live in. Everything about her was cool. Even her snaggle tooth and crooked nose made her all the more perfect. I could relate to a person like that; flawed. As I saw her get more popular and I saw this list get bigger and more active I learned more and more about her. Something that didn't sit right always tickled the back of my brain though. I'm not much older than Jewel, and have always marveled at her seemingly endless maturity level. I know for myself that I've been through a lot in the short period that I've been alive. I've always hung out with people much older because of it, but every once in awhile I realize how YOUNG I really am, and that in fact, as mature as I sometimes think I am (running a successful business since I was 22, etc..), in truth, I know diddly. I will not bore any of you with the successes and failures that have made up my life to this point, but what remains constant is that I'm still young enough where I haven't had the life experience to know better with certain things. (As an aside, you should have seen me buying sheets and bedding recently.......I bought a new mattress and figured hey, I should get all new bedding.....I then realized, Holy S***, I've never bought bedding....(this is from the guy who has to make sure the people who work for him can feed their families every week)......everything I have is from when I moved out of my parents house 8 years ago or the stuff my girlfriend had bought me.....threadcount?? what the hell is that mom? It was hysterical actually.....by the time I had picked out what I wanted at bed and bath I was up to a thousand bucks to outfit one queensized bed.....INSANE!!.....I wound up spending about half that once some thrifty lady friends talked some sense into me. "Put the 400 threadcount sheets back, Neil" Anyway, my point was.....as mature as I sometimes think I am, in reality i'm only a few years out of diapers and I sometimes want to crawl right back into them. I speculate that our lovely Jewel can sometimes fit that description as well. The girl is 24 after all. I don't care what she's been through, you can only know so much at that age. It doesn't surprise me at all that she acted bratty with the reporter. I also don't find it hard to believe that the writer probably felt tremendous joy in poking a few holes in the worlds current sweethearts armor. I had a friend who worked very closely on Jewel's last album and what I heard about her really disappointed me. I will not go into details as that would not be right, but the behavior that the writer expressed in her interview sounds exactly like the jewel I heard about from people who were with her quite a bit for a few months. Don't get me wrong, it's not that they didn't LIKE Jewel, in fact, I think they did. It was just that she was sometimes rude, very guarded, pushy, bratty, and suffered from "big-shot-ism" ... I think they all had a predetermined idea that she was as lovely as lovely comes. I tried to defend her of course, saying to this person, "C'mon, think about it, say you became famous overnight, everyone who comes near you wants something from you, and on top of that, you're 24 trying to temper lifes sometimes cruel reality with the idealism you once deep down harbored and now have to promote because that's what makes you so appealing" I can only imagine what the poor girl has been through. But what made it difficult for me was that it shattered this image I had made of her. In some sick way I had made this girl some all powerful being who sang the "truth" and radiated love and purity. I have never considered myself an EDA, just a jewel fan. The EDA's I occasionally saw at concerts kind of scared me. I always saw them from a distance, never getting to close. But I knew who they were by how they talked, the paraphenalia they had on them (tapes, roses, t-shirts, recording devices) and you could tell a lot of them were meeting each other for the first time. Not all of them were creepy mind you, but more than enough to make me uncomfortable. I know you're going to hate me for this, but the fact that some choose to call recordings of Jewels music Angel Food is just outright creepy. If I was writing a book about Cults and wanted to indicate to the reader a practice the cult did that made it a cult, I couldn't have dreamt up something as scary as that. I've come to realize that Jewel is just a person like anyone else. She sweats, she has bowel movements, she can be bitchy like anyone else and she can think negative and positive thoughts. This is what makes her so wonderfully human. She's a girl with an amazing voice, beautiful sentiments and talent. She's also probably a tad self-absorbed, and a little phony. I'm not sure what makes me sometimes come back to this list. I get freaked out and want to unsubscibe when I read about people who are AMAZED that they saw her in person, talked to her, wrote to her and she wrote back, or even touched her. She's a human being, she farts and burps I'm sure! I think, and would hope, that she would be as disturbed by that behavior as I am. The funny thing is, I'm just as guilty. I've been right there. God, I hope this doesn't sound as self righteous and condescending as I fear it does. Please pardon the grammar and spelling, it's late, i'm tired, typing fast, not bothering to edit, revise and run it through the spell checker. ;-) The fact is, I love jewels music and her message. She has a voice like none I've ever heard and I want to believe in my heart that she's as sweet in real life as I think she is. But it doesn't matter. I have no right to criticize or condemn her if she isn't. I don't know her. She's a person like you or me, with good traits and bad ones. Neil - -------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1998 21:52:53 -0500 From: HORTER!!! Subject: Re: MrBB-Re: Jewel catalog question...(Cowgirl Shirt info too) At 08:26 PM 12/8/98 EST, you wrote: > For those who don't remember this shirt, it was one that >was sold during her 1995 & early 1996 tours. Its very >simple & comes in Green, Brown, Tan & Maroon. On the front >is wriitten simply : Jewel (in small lettering in the pocket >area). On the back is a cowgirl figure with hat, etc. >I was told that quantities are very limited on this & >that they're simply moving out this old item at a lower >cost to finish up with them. Hate to correct you here MrBB (actually I relish the chance! ;-), but the "original" cowgirl T-shirt didn't have the Jewel lettering on the front. It had the design on the front and nothing on the front. For those who don't know, the cowgirl was drawn by Lenedra. Get one while you can! Horter ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #690 ***************************