From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #622 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, November 17 1998 Volume 03 : Number 622 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fat Boy [Nyree ] guitar part on "spirit" [Katie ] Re: Fat Boy truth [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] EDA's are special [Ashe Mayfair ] [none] ["Jennifer L. Bergen" ] I know it's been posted, but VOTE FOR JEWEL! ["Scott Evans" ] spirit...what else? [LuverMb20@aol.com] EDA Importance? ["Scott Evans" ] Just got my spirit!!! [Jeweleda1@aol.com] FanCast ["Tom Hall" ] RE: Jewel Tour of Australia (Aussie EDAs please read) ["Phil Edwards" Subject: Re: Fat Boy In Rolling Stone's State of the Union, Jewel said that "Fat Boy" was about a boy she once knew in Alaska who killed himself. She wrote the song as a eulogy and played it at his funeral. Nyree Canadian/Maritime Angel (who misses everything because I don't have a TV and don't have cable) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:21:31 -0500 (EST) From: Katie Subject: guitar part on "spirit" hello again, wow! this is my second post of the day! definately a record! well i went out and stood in line to buy my copy tonight. i'm on the second run through the cd now. i was looking at the cd jacket and i'm surprised to notice that jewel only plays the guitar on a few selections. mainly jude cole is listed for the acoustic guitar. why didn't jewel play more guitar on this album? katie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:31:18 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Fat Boy truth In a message dated 11/16/98 9:19:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca writes: << I'm not sure about "Don't", but _its_ certainly true on a more universal level. :-) >> What Jewel means by "Don't" being fiction is she wrote it before she was in a relationship. She knew enough about the world that she could make a song as if she WAS in love, as if she DID lose her boyfriend, and she couldn't stand to have him want her back when she had finally gotten over him. All this was in her imagination. I think Jewel brings up the fact that she wrote it at 16 just to impress us with how talented she was as a kid. Subsconsiouly, maybe. And I don't blame her or anything. - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:10:57 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: EDA's are special There is a lot of buzz going right now about Mr BB putting his news on the Jewel page and not on the list and the (im)possibility of a second JewelStock. Yes, Mr BB's news was a great addition to this list, but the lack of it makes the list and the people on it no less special. Yeah, things have changed a lot between the time I joined and now (and that's just a week away from being a two year span), but at the core the I think that the EDAs are still what they have always been: fans united by a simple love of the music. We are a kind of family, dysfunctional as we may seem at times. Sharing our "top secret" info with any Jewel fan with internet access doesn't change the overall list in any drastic way. We'll still get up tomorrow and post back-and-forth about this and that. We'll still take less then critical subjects and turn them into "the thread to end all threads". Most importantly all the great news that Mr BB supplies will still be available to us, only now it will be there for every Jewel fan... the way it should be. I support Alan in this move, may his inbox find the peace it deserves :) As far as JewelStock 2: Just remember that getting to meet Jewel was not the best reason to have been at the original JewelStock (and I know that is not the reason that ALL of you want to go... but I've heard that reason more then any). Getting the chance to meet some of the great people form this list in person and having the chance to just hang out and have fun with them as the greatest thing about an event like that. Meeting Jewel would have just been a perk. I've been to two different Jewel shows with EDA's, and of the stories I have for those two shows, Jewel's performance seems to be the least mentioned. The memorable things to me are about the wonderful people I met, the people who would call me a friend even thought I had never met them face to face and the good (yet all to brief) time we had together. We do each other a great honor. I can't count the number of people that are amazed that so many people can meet on the internet and, having never really known each other, seem like such a tight knit group. I joined this list because of Jewel, but stayed because of the EDA's. If another Jewelstock happens, great, if not... so be it, I just don't feel that Jewelstock 2 could never mean as much as the first one did. So I don't know about anyone else, but after work Tuesday I'm heading directly for the CD shop to buy "Spirt" and see if I can't fall in love with Jewel's music all over again. Even if the CD doesn't mean as much to me as POY, I know come Wednesday... I'll still be an EDA, not because of Jewel, but because of what the letters EDA mean for me. Anyway, sorry for going on so long, and sounding so preachy but after months of not posting I felt like I had something to say. Good luck to all you EDA's that are gonna be in NY tomorrow for the MTV thing. Wish I could be there with you all. Have fun. - -Ashe Mayfair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:21:55 -0500 From: "Jennifer L. Bergen" Subject: [none] Well, I've just gotten 'Spirit' about an hour and 15 minutes ago, and i think it's just beautiful. One of my roommates is sitting here with me, and she thinks the same thing. I'm pretty sure that my other roommates will think the same thing. I just know that I'm going to be walking around the Ohio State campus with my cd player, and by the time that I get back in from my classes tomorrow, or today I should say, that I'm going to know the whole cd by heart. I just love it. Jewel is great and she should keep up the good work. That's about all I have to say about that right now. I'll probably write back when I have more to say. Love and Peace Forever, Jen AOL IM: Giggles123 ICQ: 21959536 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:38:25 PST From: "Scott Evans" Subject: I know it's been posted, but VOTE FOR JEWEL! Everyone please, please, PLEASE vote for Jewel on the MTV Total Requst site! http://www.mtv.com/nav/intro_shows.html and click on Total Request Live in the bottom-left frame...Think about it...It would be the perfect TRL experience, wouldn't it? Jewel's on it, Jewel's videos on it, and a Jewel special is on after it...Jewel only has 1% of the votes (as of now), which is what she usually has...That doesn't look good...So, if everyone can vote for Jewel (Those outside the US can help too, even though you can't see it :-)) at http://www.mtv.com/nav/intro_shows.html it would be great! I don't know why I'm so desperate, but I'd really like to see Hands on the countdown today! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:29:57 -0800 (PST) From: KaDeMa Subject: The Amazingness of SPIRIT Hi Everybody, I told myself months ago I wasn't going to post about Spirit because I knew peoples mailboxes would already be exploding with posts about it, but from the first note on Deep Water I was blown away. First of all, I was the first person at my branch of Media Play in Buffalo to own Spirit,Woo-hoo! And the local news was there so me and my friend are gonna be on tommorow night buying Spirit. I already have so many favorite songs. I thought the quiet addition of the cello to Enter From the East was great. Deep Water blew me away, as well as Life Uncommon. Barcelona is an amazing new song. But, it seemed to me that Kiss the Flame sounded alot different than when Jewel played it on Faces For Fall. Jewel's voice really does sound alot more mature and prettier than POY, not that i didn't love POY, and I never realized that Leandra's voice was so beautiful. Also, i'd never seen such candid shots of Jewel's feet, spooky. But did anyone else notice that Jewel is barley listed with any guitar credits, most of them are Jude Cole. Does this mean Jewel will barley be playing guitar next tour? Well, I can't even express in words the amazingness of Spirit, somehow Jewel did, but i am left silent(or maybe i'm not, if you read this post.) Anyways, sorry for the length, it's just amazing though. bye, Kyle "Lend your voices only to sounds of freedom, No longer lend your strength to that which you wish to free from, Fill your lives with love and bravery, And you shall lead a life uncommon." - **Jewel** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:46:23 EST From: LuverMb20@aol.com Subject: spirit...what else? Ok, its about 10:45 pm here. I'm going to go get Spirit in about an hour at Tower....and truthfully, after reading all these posts, I'm a little scared. I guess what i mean is, all the Jewel music Ive heard has been absolutly beautiful in my opinion. and know that I've read other poeople's opinions of Spirit, I'm terrified. Its like i have this predefined motion of what great music to expect from her, and i dont want to shatter that. Some people's reviews are good, but others....ohhh. People are criticizing different things. I guess I'm gonna have to just listen and see for myself...but, I'm still trembling. I've been waiting ages for this, and now i have no idea what to expect! well, I'm off soon. Wish me luck! And everyone else...happy listening! Ami ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:52:23 PST From: "Scott Evans" Subject: EDA Importance? I hope this letter doesn't sound bad, and I hope no one thinks this is specifically directed at them, but what makes YOU so important? I've read several posts about how the EDA list used to be so good and important and now anyone can just walk in and write to and participate in "their" list. What I want to know is, what's wrong with that? Many people want to learn more about Jewel and keep up with her life and music..I'm a realatively new list member, it being a little less than a year since the first time I joined..But I've had Pieces of You for 3 years.. And I've loved her music since long before then.. Correct me if I got the meaning of those messages wrong, but don't be so stuck-up.. >From how I'm hearing it, you used to think you were of more importance than non-EDAs, and now you're mad because the list is known to more people who want to learn about Jewel.. And that makes me more than just a little mad and frustrated.. I'm sure some of you who are complaining haven't been on the list since the beginning.. How would you have feeled if you had tried to join the list.. But it wouldn't let you because the EDA's are sick of new people joining the list? Pretty bad, I would guess.. I know the basic and simple questions that get asked over and over again get VERY repetitive, but you didn't know all you know now when you joined the list, did you? Well, flame me or not, that was the message I HAD to get across.. - -- Scott ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 02:43:01 EST From: Jeweleda1@aol.com Subject: Just got my spirit!!! Well, good morning angels! It's one thirty here and i thought i would let you know that i got the CD at about 12:15. I'm on track six and well though i do like it, it's gonna take some getting use to. It's a different sound all together. maybe if i had heard the songs on the album before i wouldn't think they were so different i don't know. never had any angelfood :( but what i really wanted to tell you guys is that at the record store i went to they had a few of each artists albums out on a rack with the rest behind the counter. and well out of all the new release jewel's were the first to go off the rack. as i walked over there i watched the last one up there go. thinking i had already missed out in the first 5 mins of the sale i started looking for it in other places and then a guy told me that the rest were behind the counter. so i just thought it was really great that all of here cd's on the rack were gone. love you guys, tink the angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:00:07 +0100 From: "Tom Hall" Subject: FanCast Well, After a long wait for the chat session to begin, right now Jewel is singing "Life Uncommon" and she's sooooooo good! already she's done Deep Water and LU, and done a good little advert for Poltzie's album!!! I'm just gonna keep typing while I'm watching... She's looking very good tonight and it's just great to know what my girl's doing right now =) OK now she's finishing... She had to decide between Enter From The East and Absence Of Fear, and she chose AOF, MY FAVORITE!!! Yesssssssss! LoL... Well I'm gonna send send this and be gone... I have my album so I'll go listen to it =) You guys have fun going to the store at midnight!!! Bye! Tom ******************************************* tom.hall@megabit.net SaVaGe GaRdEn'S uNiVeRsE www.angelfire.com/pa/universe19/ ******************************************* "If I could tell the world just one thing It would be that we're all OK And not to worry cause worry is wasteful And useless in times like these..." - - Jewel, Hands. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 21:26:50 +1100 From: "Phil Edwards" Subject: RE: Jewel Tour of Australia (Aussie EDAs please read) good idea!!!! Can all aussie EDA's send me a private email telling me your e-mail address and I will keep a log and we can converse through that..... it also gives us an idea how many aussie edas are out there ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 03:00:47 EST From: Accurate02@aol.com Subject: Please read EDA's You know, I've been a Jewel fan for about...3 years I think. I didn't know her or was fortunate enough to her in her Innerchange days but as soon as I heard that angelic voice over the radio, I knew she something special. And the first time I saw her in the Wizard of Oz in concert, I was mesmerized by her raw beauty and her overpowering voice. Back then I didnt have the money for a computer, and no one I knew had one, so I wasn't able to join the EDA's and be "special". But recently...well in Sept to be exact entering my second quarter in art school, I was lucky enough to get a roommate with a computer. Hence becoming an EDA. But now through reading post after post its like everyone has adopted an apathetic demeanor on this list, like they dont care....and I agree I dont feel special. Especially when I get email telling me that basically I dont count because I wasnt around during Jewel Stock, ....to see what it was like back then. You know with some one as talented as Jewel is, it is only to be expected that her popularity would blossom and grow along with a following. I look at it like this: "Jewel is like a flower in a dry meadow spreading seeds across the arid landscape for others to bloom and flourish". But the impression I get is that the "veterans" look at it like we're multiplying like rats, spreading nothing but turmoil and filth. This is wrong isn't it? I mean what is the point. Im not putting anyone down dont get me wrong there are some really super nice poeple on this list but I think there are also a lot of poeple on here that don't belong..."The Image Club"...I've labelled them,...the ones that either are obsessed with her looks and like her for her beauty more than anything else or those that are more worried about their status in the mess of things whether or not they pull rank in the group. Well should we start electing representitives for this thing or what. The reason I joined this list is because I sincerely think Jewel is the most talented and meaningful entertainer to come around in a long time, and I love everything she stands for. I don't think she's Mecca, I don't bow down to her everyday and worship her, what makes her so special is that she is REAL not some god-like figure. I don't need to see her to enjoy her, I could care less what she WEARS or how she looks, its her music that matters the most to me... Now Im not going to lie to you and say that I dont like the way she looks, she is gorgeous, but her beauty is just iciing on the cake. I think whats wrong is that though this list was a great idea, I think the idea has turned into an institution and its taken for granted way too much. I don't know, I probably just turned the whole list against me. So I'll quit while I'm ahead. Sorry for the long letter. Later, Shaun (The angel formally known as Angel In Chains) {\o/} "/_\" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 07:46:17 EST From: DSARN@aol.com Subject: Re: Fat Boy Hello EDAS, I was wondering if anyone heard the same thing I heard Jewel say on Fancast or was I hearing things. Did she say that this boy shot himself at her home? Thank you in advance to anyone who can answer this for me. :) Deneen ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #622 ***************************