From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #615 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, November 15 1998 Volume 03 : Number 615 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * jewel-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY the word * unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jewel, she a funny gal, no? [Harrisbros@aol.com] Re: Calling cards in Spirit CD? [katherine ] the skirt [christie hasenberg ] TO THE CRITICS! ["Barry" ] Saturday Night [STAC5984@aol.com] P A T H E T I C... [JEWEL1165@aol.com] WHO CARES? [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] SNL, what else? [kristin ] Casey's Top 20 [PENNY16161@aol.com] re: Casey's Top 20 (vs Casey's "American Top 40"??) [Mike Connell ] Re: SNL, what else? [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] Review Of "Spirit" in Entertainment Weekly [np ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:43:00 EST From: Harrisbros@aol.com Subject: Jewel, she a funny gal, no? ***Several people mentioned last season's SNL skit where they made fun of a contest for "Win Six Months With Jewel" in a snowed-in Alaskan cabin. Quite frankly, that skit was hilarious! I've seen it many times with a lot of EDAs, and it still puts me on the floor... :-D You have to be able to laugh at yourself, and at the things you hold in high esteem. If you are unable to, there's a strong possibility that you have transcended admiring one's qualities and begun to idolize them. That is BAD NEWS. Put anything on a pedestal and it will eventually fall (or be knocked) off. That said, get ready for Jewel-bashing in the press once the newness of the CD wears off, and the "do good" message starts to enrage the cynics. (And believe me, it will get on their nerves -- there's nothing like positive thought to piss off the "woe is us, we're never gonna make it" crowd.) I hear the RugBurns mail list routinely has a field day with ragging on Jewel, and getting a rise out of the EDAs. So what? Rib 'em back, and everybody laugh until we cry... To quote Bette Midler: "If they can't take a joke, f*** 'em!" :-) Dennis Harris (Jokeologist, Punster, and member of a family tree with very low branches...) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 20:02:50 -0500 (EST) From: katherine Subject: Re: Calling cards in Spirit CD? I bought the CD yesterday and there are no calling cards in it. Sorry. -katherine On Fri, 13 Nov 1998, Karacostas, Derrick W. wrote: > Does anyone know if the US Spirit release will have the 5 calling cards in > it like the Singapore version? (According to Jeanette). > Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 19:07:35 -0600 From: christie hasenberg Subject: the skirt Ok... I admit, at first I looked at her outfit.... well it was the first thing I noticed. Mainly because she was wearing leather, and I dont' think you should wear leather..I'm an animal rights activist... and yeah ok I thought at first... hmm skirt's a little short....but once she started singing that all FLEW out of my head. She is AMAZING ... her voice is amazing...her music, her words...she is just BRILLIANT. But yes at first..you notice her outfit... a habit..and we all do it... For the record... I admire Jewel for her BRILLIANT poetry... not her looks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:04:35 -0000 From: "Barry" Subject: TO THE CRITICS! hi. so i have to say, i checked my mail today to find 106 messages - and spent 30 mins going thru them all to come to the conclusion - WHAT A PILE OF CRAP!!! yes, i'm talking about 'the skirt' and all the criticism. so, let me ask all these people who were shocked by jewel's clothing - have you been in public lately? this is the 1990's - not the 1890's! i mean, i really can't believe that so much people are talking so much shit - especially since all these people are supposed to be jewel's fans. i just don't get. jewel is 24, not 84! she's young! let her wear whatever the hell she likes! Barry the disappointed angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:36:35 EST From: STAC5984@aol.com Subject: Saturday Night Ok, I guess you are all tired of Hearing about the SNL performance. But I just have to share my diverse opinions. I was out of town staying in some cabins with 6 other families. Of course I forced them all to watch Jewel on SNL. Well here were the reactions: Old folks (over 35, hehe) : What in the world is she wearing!!? Oh Kevin, we are woried about you, you are obsessed with her? ME: My goodness, she is looking sexier than ever!! {mouth hanging open} teen girls: She needs to wash her hair Other guys: :D (they were glued to the TV looking at the wonderfully sexy skirt) My Mother: She usually doesnt look like this. I have seen her much better. Well, I enjoyed the overall performance. I am so excited, cant wait till Tuesday. SNL just made my weekend. kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:59:27 EST From: JEWEL1165@aol.com Subject: P A T H E T I C... In my opinion.....TRUE Jewel fans wouldn't give a crap about what she's wearing..take it easy..enjoy HER music...she's not selling her appearance, she's selling her MUSIC...let her.... oh and have a wonderful day :) Jessica "The REALISTIC Angel".... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:15:25 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: WHO CARES? OK, everybody, let's move on. I mean we've all established the fact that Jewel's skirt was a little shocking, then we established the "freedom of choice" aspect. And now everyone keeps adding on. Why does everyone feel obliged to pour water on the fire? It was put out a long time ago. - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 21:14:28 -0600 From: kristin Subject: SNL, what else? A friend who isn't a Jewel fan said something to me today. "He said, my girlfriend and I watched Jewel on SNL last night. She looked like a hooker, but man is she going to sell a lot of albums." Whether it was what she intended or not, that was the effect it had. Think of it what you will, I've said my part. Kristin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:21:09 EST From: PENNY16161@aol.com Subject: Casey's Top 20 Hey guys. First thing is that I want to thank MrBB for all of the time and effort that he put into the EDA list. He really kept the list in tact, and I look forward to reading his "column" on the Jewel webpage. Second, I was just listening to Casey's Top 20 Countdown on the radio, and they played Hands. The Website says that it is #14, but they just played it at #5 (moving up from last week's #7). That's all. Later, Brett The Angel Formally Known As.... http://members.aol.com/PENNY16161/index.html <----HomePage http://members.aol.com/Pharquel/karaoke.html <----Karaoke ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:54:39 -0500 From: Mike Connell Subject: re: Casey's Top 20 (vs Casey's "American Top 40"??) Brett wrote: >Second, I was just listening to Casey's Top 20 Countdown on the radio, and >they played Hands. The Website says that it is #14, but they just played it >at #5 (moving up from last week's #7). That's all. Later, Casey's Top 20 is a different countdown than his weekly "American Top 40", which is what is on his website. Hands is #14 there, in the national countdown. However, as Brett said, Hands is #5 on Casey's Top 20, which is obviously a different countdown. Does anyone out there know why he has two countdowns, and why the rankings are so vastly different? (I've been discussing these two countdowns in private email with an EDA the last three weeks and we are both at a loss) Mike :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:22:06 EST From: Corky08@aol.com Subject: GET OVER THE SKIRT Fellow EDAs- I am sick of reading post after post about Jewel's outfit on SNL. Does that discredit her any less as a performer or a musician? To me it doesn't. I love Jewel for her amazing ability to express her emotions and turn them into beautiful music and poems. I really don't give a crap what she wears. If you guys are against the skirt so much, then what would have been "appropriate" for her to wear? Its not up to any of us. So please, no more comments on her outfit. Katie The Schmoopie Angel {\o/} / \ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:32:28 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: the skirt I didn't evne notice the skirt was a big deal. The only reason I even looked at it was I had taped the show so I could watch it Sunday (this) morning. I went online before I went to bed (I got home from a trip at 2 am) and saw a post that said "Jewel...and the skirt" and I said "A skirt?" and I wasn't really paing attention but then they had a long shot and I thought "Oh she is wearing a skirt" but I didn't really think it looked like a skirt because skirts usually are one length instead of showing more leg. So it wasn't what I expected it to look like. And that was that. I thought it was sort of dorky how she danced along, but that was my only acknowledgement. When they were introducing Jewel the second time, did everyone not have audio for the actress who introduced her? Mine showed her mouthing "Ladies and gentleman, once again -- Jewel" and then it kicked back in when the band started playing. - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:33:54 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: Jewel, she a funny gal, no? In a message dated 11/15/98 7:16:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, Harrisbros@aol.com writes: << If you are unable to, there's a strong possibility that you have transcended admiring one's qualities and begun to idolize them. That is BAD NEWS. >> That sums up what is wrong with this list. So many people idolize and are infatuated with Jewel instead of just admiring her and being a fan of her. - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:43:15, -0500 From: HCCZ70D@prodigy.com ( SARAH MERRITT) Subject: musings on mini skirts, morals, and mtv I didn't happen to see snl or the now infamous mini skirt, but so what? jewel can dress how she wants. being a girl, I know it can be fun to dress differently from how you normally do when the occasion presents itself. why do you think people go to proms? dress up for halloween? because it can be fun! that's all. although my favorite post about it so far was the one where somebody talked about steve poltz up there in a black mini with jewel ;) I bet he would do that. anyway, all these people go on and on about how jewel is selling out, caring more about money and mini skirts than her fans or her morals. but as one of the very very lucky people who will be seeing jewel on tuesday at mtv, I can't help but feel like she is doing this for us. I started to think about it, and who do you think came up with the idea of edas being the audience for this show? maybe it was mtv, maybe it was a manager, but it's possible it was jewel. I think the girl has damn fine priorities. and she can have them in a mini skirt, a toga, or gorilla suit. see some of you tuesday (my birthday!!) sarah ____ "I'm a senstive man of the nineties, sweetheart, who cares for your emotional being an awful lot." - jewel kilcher ******************************************************* visit sarah's realm of sordid optimism at http://www.geocities. com/SouthBeach/Cove/6457 my birthday - November 17!! ******************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:49:47 EST From: LuverMb20@aol.com Subject: i dont understand Hello all.....there's just one thing i dont understand. This is supposed to be a Jewel fan list, right? If everyone who subscribes is a fan of Jewels, then why is all this bickering going on about Jewel's skirt? So, she wore a short leather skirt, big deal. Jewels old enough to make her own wardrobe decisions. Like someone else said, i believe, its about the music anyways....if you want to critisize Jewel, criticize her music, not the clothes she wears. If Beethoven composed music in ladies underwear, i doubt anyone would care because his music is so powerful, nothing else matters. Let's keep that in mind when we see Jewel playing her music. Ami the angel who's going to Leno in 4 days!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:25:38 +0930 From: Tiggles Subject: Hands single in Austalia Hey Folks Here in Australia **Hands** has debut at #32 on the ARIA singles chart, not bad since I haven't even heard it on the radio yet!!! The album is due out here today 16th, but sadly I won't be able to get a copy til the end of the week, maybe I will be the last member of the jewel@smoe.org to get a copy :( I went into my local music store yesterday to see if I could get a copy of the album but they said they won't be getting it in til the end of the week. Damm country people always miss out!!!! They did get the single of Hands in and its already sold out!!! If you want to check the aria charts out:- http://www.aria.com.au/Menu1.htm take care Craig. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 23:01:30 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: Re: SNL, what else? In a message dated 11/15/98 7:54:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, ladyk@cybergal.com writes: << A friend who isn't a Jewel fan said something to me today. "He said, my girlfriend and I watched Jewel on SNL last night. She looked like a hooker, but man is she going to sell a lot of albums." Whether it was what she intended or not, that was the effect it had. Think of it what you will, I've said my part. >> Jewel is one of the most popular musical artists of this year. She doens't have to try desperately hard to promote album sales. I mean her single is already in the top 10. The motivation for the attire was simply CHOICE. What would you guys have preferred to see her wear? A formal gown? - -- Mark ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:16:00 -0800 From: np Subject: Review Of "Spirit" in Entertainment Weekly Hey! Here's a review of Jewel's new CD by David Browne of Entertainment Weekly (I've got to pay attention to all those copyright laws :) Enjoy! Two more days :) Woohoo!!! Nik - an Aspiring Angel ************************************************************************ SEMI-PRECIOUS JEWEL Where have all the PC folk songs gone? They've been updated in radio-ready form on Spirit, the exceedingly earnest second effort by the exceedingly sensitive Jewel. Review by David Browne As Jewel continually reminds us on her second album, Spirit, Earth is the ultimate house of horrors. It pollutes and poisons our minds, it's populated by bigots and bullies, and it constantly tramples and suppresses our inner beauty. But if we have faith in ourselves and join together, she keeps suggesting, we shall once again overcome and reclaim the purity and essence of life. Really. Over the past couple decades, musicians who extolled such sentiments were folkie moralists who disregarded materialism and commerciality; they looked and sounded drab. None of those stereotypes apply to Jewel Kilcher, who epitomizes a new breed of contemporary folksinger. She's become her own cottage industry--and what a crowded bungalow it is. Part unplugged balladeer, part multi-platinum pop star, part best-selling poet, part sex symbol, part fledgling movie actress (with a feature-film debut due this spring), she's the '90s face of social consciousness: glamorous, careerist, unabashedly ambitious. Despite a few memorable moments, like the poignantly descriptive lament "You Were Meant for Me," Pieces of You, her '95 debut, was dominated by wan, precious coffeehouse sermons. Spirit, carefully produced by longtime Madonna cohort Patrick Leonard, represents a major leap in high fidelity. Leonard keeps the focus on Jewel's voice while adding just enough Nutra-folk sweetener--pillow-soft keyboards, softly padding drums--to avoid the drabness of Pieces of You. "Hands," the first single, epitomizes how Leonard achieves a smart balance between acoustic intimacy and radio-friendly gloss. The way Jewel's voice dips from a mountain-stream soprano to a vulnerable lower octave in the chorus demonstrates what a stronger, more confident singer she's become, and how much vocal control she's learned. On the printed page, this ode to keeping the faith makes as much sense as Jewel acting ("My hands are small, I know/Butthey're not yours, they are my own"--huh?). But Jewel sounds as if she believes deeply and strongly in every last syllable. If Spirit were intended simply as an easy-listening folk-pop balm--which it often winds up being, in lullabies like the self-help ditty "Deep Water" and the enraptured love song "Kiss the Flame"--it would suffice. It's certainly a more pleasing aural experience than the grating cacophony that is the new Alanis Morissette album. But in her role as friend, advisor, lover, and spiritual counselor, Jewel yearns to elevate us--and, in doing so, continually trips herself up. Jewel is, first off, a jumble of contradictions. She's clearly driven, yet in "Down So Long" (the closest thing to an upbeat number, with a classic-rock feel reminiscent of Tom Petty's "Mary Jane's Last Dance") she complains of her hectic schedule. "Do You," a tract against the superficiality of the world, finds her admonishing certain women--"No more pigtails and pony rides/ They're sophisticated/They sip on lattes"--who resemble none other than fans of Jewel and her Lilith Fair peers. As that song reveals, there's an ultrathin line between simplicity and naivete, and Jewel keeps leaping back and forth over it. She's given to embarrassing and vague platitudes, as in "Hands" ("If I could tell the world just one thing/It would be that we're all OK") or the entirety of "Life Uncommon," perhaps the least rousing protest song ever performed. Only the most faithful fans won't giggle at "Fat Boy," an agonizingly syrupy ode to an overweight boy sung like a number from a campfire-girl theater group. It's fine for Jewel to come to the aid of the underdogs--but she belies her sensitivity by mocking a "fat man" in "Down So Long." A less urgent but still irksome problem is that Jewel, despite being a published author, is often in dire need of an editor. Her songwriting can be almost shockingly sloppy. The not terribly original phrase "fragile flame" crops up in two different songs, as does the metaphor of the heart as an empty room. And never mind the incessant use of sun-sky-wind-water imagery, which threatens to turn her into the John Denver of the next century. To the Jewel devout, none of these gripes will matter. With her dulcet voice and lulling refrains, Jewel makes the social and political ills of the world go down easy. But in doing so, she unintentionally confounds the problem, since her honeyed background-music folk makes issues of life and death appear more benign and less worrisome than they are. Jewel truly has brought topical folk songs into the modern age: She makes complacent rabble-rousers. B- Jewel Spirit ATLANTIC ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #615 ***************************