From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #378 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, July 13 1998 Volume 03 : Number 378 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Fan Club ["David Trinh" ] NJC: The "officiality" of a fan club [MANDYGAL@aol.com] Fan Club thing [sesykes@juno.com (Scott E Sykes)] Contributing to Jewel's Charity [Sabaac1@aol.com] ANWA copy available in Europe ["Francois Cartegnie" ] Re: Fan Club [owner-jewel@smoe.org] Re: angel against BIG CLUB ["Kevin B. Pease" ] Re: Fan Club thing ["Kevin B. Pease" ] Higher Ground For Humanity ["Wizard" ] Fan Club & Jewel Charity [Michael Aston ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:34:47 PDT From: "David Trinh" Subject: Fan Club OKAY I'M GETTING REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT ALL THIS FAN CLUB/ID BUS-O Could somebody please answer this. What is An EDA ID? Will it have anything to do with a fanclub if it is conceived? Will this ID thing be "Official" EDA stuff? Who's organising all this? Is the Fanclub an EDA thing or will it be a seperate entity? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:21:47 EDT From: MANDYGAL@aol.com Subject: NJC: The "officiality" of a fan club Hay! Just a thought. This fan club could not really be considered an official fan club, could it? Unless we had Jewel management permission and all that good stuff. I mean the idea is great, but it is a huge project to take on. And about all the posts about where to send the pics and everything,,,maybe we should hold off. If these cards or whatever do become a project, I am sure that all that info will follow in a post :)~ MANDY :)~ just a thought... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:38:57 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (Scott E Sykes) Subject: Fan Club thing Hello all you beautiful Angels! Well here's my side on the fan club thang (gotta put my 2 cents in). I think when someone makes a club for someone they are saying this person is THAT important to be cherished by a group of people. And in the case of Jewel, that should make it an extra special group. I am definitely pro-fan club! If you want to celebrate a person's life and music, you need to celebrate it with a bang, that means A LOT of people involved. WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO: I think that this group should be an EDA group, meaning that it should be called, possibly, EDA (or something to that effect). If we can get the name that is. And i think, with the help of the moderators and various Angels, get this to be The Official Jewel Fan Club. But to do this, you have to start out slow and, over time, get bigger. Possibly start out with e-mail then to newsletter or just start out with newsletter but that would take mucho man power! Well i think i said enough! This, if sought, would be an awesome club! And with the minds of EDA's, would be just that more spectacular! Thanks! ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "LIFE IS A BIG GAME SO YOU GOTTA PLAY IT WITH A BIG VOICE!" http://homepage.usr.com/b/breezemaker ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 05:10:20 EDT From: Sabaac1@aol.com Subject: Contributing to Jewel's Charity Well I was having a thought so I thought I should share it with all you. Okay you all know how Jewel has started a new charity that is dedicated to enviromental and political issues. I think this is a very cool thing and I was thinking how neat it would be if we could get involved. I mean we could at least contribute. We are Jewel's biggest fans after all and I think that helping her help others would be a great way to show how much we all love and appreciate her. I'm sure most of us could afford a dollar or two and if you put it all together it would be a fairly big contribution. Or maybe we could actually do some volunteer work for it or something. Well it's just a thought, let me know what you guys think. * Debi - An Obsessed Angel * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:11:04 +0200 From: "Francois Cartegnie" Subject: ANWA copy available in Europe I just received my amazon.com order now, (1.5 month late). So, now I got 2 copies of ANWA and so I'll get rid of this unusefull new one. So If anyone still haven't ordered his own copy, he/her can contact me ! Francois. French Angel. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:46:55 EDT From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-Jewel Answers The EDAs-Q #14 & #2 (Day Two) Hi again all EDAs, As promised, here's the next two questions & answers from the "EDAs Interview Jewel" project. If you are unaware of what's going on, or if during this week, you'd like to see Q & A's that have previously been posted, point your browser to: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/20q.htm Any Q & A's will be available for review here, once they've been posted. We also plan on doing this again, once in a while. Today's questions were originally submitted by Court & Mike. Read on for Jewel's answers. Best wishes, MrBB ****************************************** #14 submitted by: necrosavant@juno.com (Court) Q - Is there anything you regret doing & what would you like most to be remembered for (&/or how would you like to be remembered)? Court Answer from Jewel: In fourth grade I made fun of a boy in a cruel way. I thought it was a cool way to impress my friends. It still haunts me today. I would like to be remembered as a humanitarian. ********************************************** #2 submitted by: mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk (Mike) Q - How do you feel about not releasing the recordings made at the Bearsville sessions? Many EDAs are concerned that they may never see the light of day - and while we acknowledge that they aren't where you are at right now, many of us feel that they are still very valid pieces in their own right, and wonder what exactly is to become of them. Cheers - Mike Answer from Jewel: Lots of people probably have all these songs on Jewelstock and other tapes. It isn't where I am right now. The quality of it isn't such that I would want to release it. I might use parts of it on a current project I'm working on. *********************************************** Stick around. Two more EDA questions & Jewel's answers will be posted tommorrow. -MrBB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:53:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Anderson Subject: movie song just wondering about the song for the movie jewel wrote "only for herself"...think there's any way we could get her to record it as "angelfood?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:55:00 +0200 From: owner-jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: Fan Club > OKAY I'M GETTING REALLY CONFUSED ABOUT ALL THIS FAN CLUB/ID BUS-O > Could somebody please answer this. > > What is An EDA ID? An 'Every Day Angel Identification Card'. Like a personal ID you can showto let other people see you are a genuine EDA :-) > Will it have anything to do with a fanclub if it is conceived? Probably > Will this ID thing be "Official" EDA stuff? Think so... > Who's organising all this? ehhh.... (?) > Is the Fanclub an EDA thing or will it be a seperate entity? We're not sure of that either I think... I sure hope it will. Jesse Houwing The Always Busy Angel - -- ICQ #12001754 Webmaster of Jewel - foolish games: - - http://members.xoom.com/jfg/ - ------------------------------------------------ The right thing to do is often not the easiest. - ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:56:42 -0400 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: Re: angel against BIG CLUB >>From: CybrPsco15@aol.com writes: >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO , >please please, please don't make the jewel fan club a HUGE thing, I mean, if >Jewel has one of those Giant fan clubs, like Hanson, or Spice Girls, or >something like that, it would be a kiss of death, we don't wanna make her too >big, a low profile club will just be great, I wanna steer clear of mainstream >and trendy teenyboppyness for this, i want no part of that, so please people >lets try not to make this a world wide trendy thing, please Um... She's sold how many millions of records worldwide? I heard something like 8 million or so, last I heard? I'd say that pretty much makes her mainstream. Let's not fool ourselves... Jewel is very much a mainstream folk/pop artist. "We don't want to make her too big"? I'd say she's already pretty big, and to pretend that this list has some sort of exclusive knowledge of her music is pretty silly. Jewel is trendy, Jewel is hip... you don't sell 8 million records without a big "teenybopper" audience who adores you. Why would a big fan club be the kiss of death? Would Jewel then lose her "street cred"? I've never understood this attitude. "I love this artist, but I don't want them to be successful & make money off of their music, because then they'd be selling out and going mainstream." Yes, it's nice to think that we're superior to "the mainstream", because we like Jewel... but guess what? "The mainstream" already likes her. I guess that makes us all pretty mainstream, at least as far as Jewel is concerned. I hope Jewel ends up bigger than the Beatles. :) Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel "And as I watch the drops of rain weave their weary paths and die, I know that I am like the rain, there but for the grace of you go I..." --(Paul Simon)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:22:36 -0400 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: Re: no to official >>L.a.e.a. writes: >I agree with most that building an official as the spice girls would >probably put an end to all of the eda spirit.If ever there is ever to be >a fanclub dedicated to Jewel,it must not carry the mark of EDA.Because >EDA's aren't only centered on Jewel,but on a whole hippie idea that we >all want to make our world a better place to defend,by committing >"everyday",therefore common and simple acts that improve our social >lives as well as the ones in proximity.Our name carries our >task,everyday. So the idea of starting an *offline* "EDA" style fan club immediately precludes the possibility of having that organization behave in the EDA spirit? This list started as a Jewel fan discussion list, and all the EDA stuff grew *out* of that. Why couldn't an offline group do the same thing? I'm really surprised by the reactions of some list members to this idea... I think it has a lot of potential for: 1. Bringing Jewel's music to more people. (i.e., those that don't have email & internet access) 2. Spreading the "EDA spirit" to more people. (Getting more people to do "common and simple acts to improve our social lives" is a bad goal?) Yet there have been two main objections: 1. It would "ruin" our exclusive little online club. (Alternately, it could make it all that much bigger & better). 2. It would "ruin" Jewel's career, and make her no better than the Spice Girls or Hanson. (How? Comparisons to Hanson and the Spice Girls fail to see one major thing. Jewel doesn't write songs with words like, "I really really really wanna zig-a-zig-AH...", or whatever the hell it is that the Hansons are singing in that Mmm-bop song. Nor are her songs strictly a "fun pop" style... the music is pop, but there is a message in it, as well.) I think her career would be totally unaffected by the creation of a fan club. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel "And as I watch the drops of rain weave their weary paths and die, I know that I am like the rain, there but for the grace of you go I..." --(Paul Simon)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:34:40 -0400 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: Re: Fan Club thing >>Scott E Sykes writes: > WHAT I THINK WE SHOULD DO: >I think that this group should be an EDA group, meaning that it should be >called, possibly, EDA (or something to that effect). If we can get the >name that is. And i think, with the help of the moderators and various >Angels, get this to be The Official Jewel Fan Club. > But to do this, you have to start out slow and, over time, get bigger. >Possibly start out with e-mail then to newsletter or just start out with >newsletter but that would take mucho man power! The first order of business should be figuring out: 1. What form the fan club will take (email? snail mail?) 2. Distribution (worldwide? US Only?) 3. Content of any newsletters / mailings (What's the point? Why would anybody want it?) 4. Who's running it, and how's it organized? 5. Other potential "benefits" of being a members (A wishlist of what members would receive: Cool merchandise? Fan-club only music (Pearl Jam did it at one point, I believe)? Messages from Jewel now and then?) 6. Potential benefits to Jewel & her management. (This is your selling point, if you want to make it official. What's in it for them? What sort of say do they get in the administration & content & everything else? If you want them to agree to do cool stuff for the fan club, the fan club will almost undoubtedly have to do something for her and/or her management). 7. What's the fan club going to *do*? Is it going to be strictly a newsletter & some cheap merchandise, or do you want it to display a little "EDA Spirit", and maybe get members involved in some volunteer activities & stuff? 8. How will you go public? This will take money to start & run, no matter how you slice it. Who's going to collect the money, and sign up new members, and take care of merchandise shipping, and everything else? THEN, you pitch it to Jewel & her management in the attempt to make it an "official" club. Once it's been pitched & approval has been gotten, then you go public, and you start getting members. Once you've got members, you do something with them. Details are *very* important. I've been seeing lots of good ideas for what the club could do and what the club could offer, but no real concrete plans for the actual club itself. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.wpi.edu/~kestrel "And as I watch the drops of rain weave their weary paths and die, I know that I am like the rain, there but for the grace of you go I..." --(Paul Simon)-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:57:18 -0700 From: "Wizard" Subject: Higher Ground For Humanity Here's a thought - why don't the EDA's get involved with Higher Ground for Humanity? Jewel has given so much to us, this is an ideal chance to reciprocate in a small fashion, as well as doing something beneficial for society. I don't really know how the organization is set up so I can't offer any workable suggestions as to how we can become involved. Perhaps community organizing, or (if logistically possible) our volunteer services in administrative/clerical functions to reduce the need to hire staff and reduce operating expenses (allowing funds to be diverted to the actual causes). Just thought I'd run it up the flagpole and see who salutes. Fictionally Yours, Wizard The Angelheaded Hipster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:05:32 -0700 From: Michael Aston Subject: Fan Club & Jewel Charity I would first like to say that I really like the idea of an EDA contribution of some sort to the Jewel Charity. I think that Debi was absolutly correct in her assesment and suggestion of the idea. Next I would like to give out some ideas of the Fan Club. First I think that it's a great idea (or else I wouldn't be working on a newsletter right now). Second I think that there are a great many things that the club could do other than just put out concert dates. I think that it would allow for an invailuble increase in the number of people that have access to Jewel in the same way that we do. I also think that all of you who are conserned about Jewel's fan club including a bunch of stupid teeny boopers or whatever are being unrealistic. For one think this list is not all that hard to find. Yet it still has this great feeling. The point is that people who care enough about Jewel to pay to join a fan club or to dedicate enough time to be active in a group like this are going to be people just like us. So that fear can be put asside. Next I think that some of the things the club could do is like was said provide concert dates (to those who don't have email), provide a place to share art and poetry, provide a source of information about Jewel (again for those without email), provide info about the EDA's (i.e. gathereings, LRT's, tape trees, projects, etc.), and it would allow us to expand our caring feeling. Imagine what a difference there would be if there where two or three times as many EDA's to participate in the community help projects (for instance contributing to Jewel's new charity). I think that a fan club would be a great idea and it should be persued vigourously (which i am doing with a newsletter). Michael The Unknown Angel (for now) Sabaac1@aol.com wrote: > Well I was having a thought so I thought I should share it with all you. Okay > you all know how Jewel has started a new charity that is dedicated to > enviromental and political issues. I think this is a very cool thing and I > was thinking how neat it would be if we could get involved. I mean we could > at least contribute. We are Jewel's biggest fans after all and I think that > helping her help others would be a great way to show how much we all love and > appreciate her. I'm sure most of us could afford a dollar or two and if you > put it all together it would be a fairly big contribution. Or maybe we could > actually do some volunteer work for it or something. Well it's just a > thought, let me know what you guys think. > > * Debi - An Obsessed Angel * - -- - ---------------------------------------------------- Michael Aston Jr. maston@pacifier.com http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4830 - ---------------------------------------------------- Or reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 10780187 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/10780187 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 10780187@pager.mirabilis.com For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ - ---------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #378 ***************************