From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #151 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, March 6 1998 Volume 03 : Number 151 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Angelfood [CapSmooth@webtv.net (Bobby James)] Re: Early Tickets [C*A*S*E*Y ] Early Tickets [mrbruce@imap4.asu.edu] Re: Early Tickets [the emperor of smurfs ] Re: comments about ticket sales for fans [HRENB ] Re: True Fans [PixieFuel ] Re: Early Tickets [PixieFuel ] true fan [Jan Winters ] Re: Early Tickets [KESACTS ] UPDATE: Crash Boy's EDA Page - Toronto, LRTs, EDA Artists [Crash Boy ] The "true fan" saga [DOMINIC CHAUMONT ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:04:31 -0500 From: CapSmooth@webtv.net (Bobby James) Subject: Angelfood Hello Angels. I'm sort of new to the list, but I've been a HUGE Jewel fan since '94. The only problem is, I only have POY to enjoy. If anyone can help me acquire the following Angelfood, it would be greatly appreciated, and I would be forever thankful. The selections I'm looking for are: Save the Linoleum Phyllis Barnaby Finally Gets A Bra Rare Angels Thanx again...Please email me if you can help!! Bobby the "Comfortably Numb" Angel "You are only coming through in waves"-Pink Floyd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:55:09 +0000 From: C*A*S*E*Y Subject: Re: Early Tickets So exacititly how are we special? How do we live up to our names? Whats a star, its a 20 dollar ficititious gift, people sell it to suckers. And for those other San Diego artists, I mean we had a whole speil over how Jewel didn't even like one of them, and even so who cares about them, they are not Jewel. And define a true Jewel fan okay. If someone is poor and can't afford a computer does that make them less of a Jewel fan? If someone is blind so can't read our little messages, so they can;t be an EDA, but she loves Jewel, does that make them less of fans, again I ask, what makes us so special, seriously? I would love to get better tickets as much as you did, I mean I saw her at a club, then got mezzanine seats for another show, but what can you do, its everyone for themselves, and just because we came togther and celebrate, doesn't make us good, if anything, it makes us knowlegdeable and it keeps us aware of what she is doing. So take this list for what it is, a FAN BASED organization and stop thinking its more than it is Danke, C*A*S*E*Y PixieFuel wrote: > Yes but I believe we ARE special and we do deserve early tickets because WE > are who Jewel loves. We do good thigns for everyone else around us and live > up to our names as Every Day Angels. Jewel loves that fact alone. And just > being an EDA got me backstage. It's just a matter of letting her know. > > After all, we also got her a star for her birthday and we've done a lot to > help other San Diego artists out (The Living Room Tour) > > I feel the least anyone could do (even though we don't necessarily want anyone > to commend us since the smiles of the people we helped do just that) is to > give us early ability to purchase Jewel concert tickets. > > It's not even that much to ask. > > ANother argument.. There's a majority of people here who get very bad seats or > none at all because people go to Jewel shows who aren't even true Jewel > fans... > > it's a shame > > Take care all > -Linda the Lovable Angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 19:50:35 -0700 (MST) From: mrbruce@imap4.asu.edu Subject: Early Tickets I don't know about the pro's and con's, and personally I really don't care. All I know is it's hell to get tickets and I think that if I can get tickets early(which means better seats) I'll take that chance. Mike Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:38:29 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Re: Early Tickets On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, PixieFuel wrote: > ANother argument.. There's a majority of people here who get very bad seats or > none at all because people go to Jewel shows who aren't even true Jewel > fans... i always cringe whenever i see the words "true fans" used in any context. i honestly think it is empty verbiage. some people who might not be considered to be "true fans" [cringe] might be people who are not privileged to have internet access. while i do think that we have accomplished alot as EDAs, sometimes i do think we flatter ourselves when we forget about those who don't have internet access. a healthy dose of reality may be in order :) if anyone could please define "true fan" [double cringe] as opposed to "untrue fan" i'd greatly appreciate it. peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org hmmmm...they have the internet on computers now --- homer simpson *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:47:15 EST From: HRENB Subject: Re: comments about ticket sales for fans Someone made the comment saying it was unrealistic to think that "were better fans and better people" well actually I think we certainly are more of each than a high percentage of people out there. And to say people dont have access isnt really true- computers are in like 40% of homes nowadays, and if you dont know someone who has one, you can get access at a library or college. Die hard Jewel fans like the EDA's are die hard because we want to know as much as we can about her , her music, and fellow eda's. With all the mentions of this list in the media and by Jewel herself, surely, most of her die hard fans have heard of it. As far as EDA's, with all the positive things they have accomplished for others and themselves, I really think we are better people than the average joe, because we follow Jewel's vision of positivity and compassion for others. While there may be a few exceptions, in my experience the EDA's are nothin but cool. I think that EDA's should definately get first chance at tickets. While there may be 1500 or so people on this list, you figure that averages out to 30 or so per state, (obviously this varies with states like california)- but to put aside a block of 50 or so tickets for EDAs at each show isnt going to take up every good seat- just a few :) Lone Wolf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:25:35 EST From: PixieFuel Subject: Re: True Fans True fans.. someone asked to define it. A true fan is anyone who hears the music and enjoys it. There it's not that hard.. When I said people that aren't true Jewel fans go to the show, I meant the people that just go because they're bored that day, or because they're giving someone a ride. I know for a fact of two people who bought tickets to a Jewel show just to go there and ruin my time. Upon leaving they said "Jewel f*cking sucks" So I hope I proved my small point on True Fans - -Linda the Lovable Angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:23:36 EST From: PixieFuel Subject: Re: Early Tickets We are special and we deserve early tickets for the one reason as I said - people that aren't even fans are getting better seeats than us! SO there's offline people.. poor people and blind people that are Jewel fans. We get them to the shows. They get to the shows too.. Some of them don't even want to go to shows.. Some of them aren't allowed to by their parents. I don't really know what else to say except that we should get early tickets being her fan club since almost every other fan club I'm in gets special privileges like that. Hell the Bush fan club gets organized trips to Hawaii to meet the band and attend three concerts for about 300 bucks... It's not fair to everyone else, but it's a gratuitous to the fan group. And it's a good idea and gives you something to strive for. Tttyl - -linda the lovable angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:34:49 -0800 From: Jan Winters Subject: true fan true fan: someone who gets that CD and plays it over and over again. until it presses into their soul. and listens to it all the time, even when the cover of the paper is all worn out, even when new music comes around. always listenning to POY, being able to spot that tune right away and knowing the lyrics by heart. but i wouldn't say a true fan has to be an EDA or an EDA is really a true fan. kat imperfect angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 22:53:07 EST From: KESACTS Subject: Re: Early Tickets Umm...is it really up to us? I don't think so. So let's not get into a debate about it. Jewel isn't even on tour and she might not be for a long time. Don't get all upset or whatever. True, some bands do that and it's cool. But, also remember that for those, you have to write in for tickets like 8 months in advance. I don't think it's something that would work for Jewel and her staff whether they'd like to or not. It doesn't even matter if we're better or not... Just my thoughts... Kate The Angel Who Always Smiles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:58:37 -0500 From: Crash Boy Subject: UPDATE: Crash Boy's EDA Page - Toronto, LRTs, EDA Artists hi guys! what's up? wow, it sure has been a long time since you've seen that subject line, eh? well, fret no longer! i've updated the damn thing! first up is the toronto lilith fair that a LOT of people were at. it was loads of fun. shame on you if you missed it. next are the LRTs that cindy lee berryhill and elizabeth hummel had last summer. i only have pics from four shows, because that's all i received. people send me pics if you were at a show that has little or no pics! please. :) finally, there's EDA Artists, which is something i've wanted to do for a while. it spotlights musicians that we EDAs have introduced each other to, those that we've made a difference to, those that have made a difference in our lives, etc. i hope you all enjoy it. well, that's it for now. take care. 'bye! eric :) - -- Crash Boy's EDA Page --- http://thespis.com/crashboy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:01:24 -0800 From: paul arzt Subject: early tickets for the "true fans" I said this before and gained quite a lot of hate mail for it, but i will say it again as i see more people agree now, we should not gain any special rights because we happen to read and maybe write the occational e-mail. There are those who can not afford interent access and it would not be fair to take a ticket from them because of our economic privilage, and for those who say that people can gain access from their local library or some other public institution (a college does not count if you are attending the college), how many people on this list do use a library as their main internet source? Probably a few, but not a majority, and we would need to have a majority inorder to make it inconcorance satistically with the rest of the population. So that arguement really doesn't mean much, i mean libraries aren't completely accessable to everyone either, it is harder to get to a library that may be a bus ride away, just to read a few e-mails, than it is to walk to your computer in your own house and read a few e-mails, does it make them less of a "fan" because they don't use the library? no, does it make you or me more of a "fan" cause we can sit at a computer located with in our own house and read a few e-mails? no. in fact how does being on this list make anyone "more of a fan." that is a silly idea really, i mean there are people who are on this list simply becasue they want to find out where they can get to see pictures of jewel's boobs, and i bet if we are allowed tickets before everyone else, there will be a flood of more people like this just trying to get the ticket a few weeks ahead of time. love from paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:13:02 -0500 From: DOMINIC CHAUMONT Subject: The "true fan" saga Hi, well would you say the school system is unfair because some people are not able to afford tuiton ? Would you say riding a car should not be permitted because some people don't have money to buy one ? Would you say well-know singers like Jewel shouldn't exist 'cos it's unfair for lesser known acts ? I think any kinds of clubs have their own privileges and it's, in my point of view, what makes a club a club. Also, i suggest we stop discussing that issue. There must be more interesting Jewel topics to talk about. Take care everyone Dominic Montreal nadaweez@videotron.ca PS : By the way, I respect everyone's opinion and I think it's great that the only thing everybody seems to agree with is Jewel's enormous talent ! ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #151 ***************************