From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #132 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, February 24 1998 Volume 03 : Number 132 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: RADIOHEAD Friday Night Re: Sampling and Plagiarism...and it's differences sexing the cherry moon Jewel is....... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:34:47 -0500 (EST) From: cb6340@cnsvax.albany.edu Subject: NJC: RADIOHEAD Does anyone have any Radiohead tapes to trade for Jewel? Craig AOL IM: SisyphusX ICQ: 5350194 http://members.tripod.com/~craigbruno/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:41:16 EST From: dijewe1@juno.com (Diana Ruiz) Subject: Friday Night Hello again all, Just wanted to post the results of the show. Sorry Jewel didn't win for best valentine. Julia Roberts did. It was very close though. Jewel Is going for best video for FG. I cheated for her. If you don't want to vote over the internet you can call I-800-jukepic. and I did, But I did it 10 times just for Jewel. Well just wanted to let you all know. I'll let you know next weeks results for those of you who cant see it. {\O/} /_\ Diana ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:57:45 -0500 (EST) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: Sampling and Plagiarism...and it's differences On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Oink oink wrote: > This whole thing about Jewel taking lines from other artists or > writers, poets, what have you, brings up an interesting point. (It also > brings Puff Daddy to mind...but I won't dwell on that) Anyway, in > musical terms, when an artist takes a line or two from another song, > it's called sampling. I guess that's what Jewel does and it's not When you take "verbatim" a significant portion of someone elses work, its plagerism. When you take a few lines as a tip of the hat to say, this inspired me, its called an hommage; a compliment. > considered illegal or anything. Heck, Puff Daddy does it and look where I think at this point there begins a problem of aesthetic framework. A MuchMusic show "The New Music" (though it originals from MM's parent City-TV) details this somewhat in an interview with KRS-1 (nee Lawrence Parker - oddly he and I are the same age...) He might assert that the song he's sampling is neither a sample nor plagerism, but an instrument, in much the same way a trumpet, a guitar, a toaster or a radial arm saw is an instrument. In that aesthetic framework, the sample and the turntable are used in hiphop as instrumentation. I'm not certain the law would always agree with that particular interpretation though. Which begs the question, how do we decide if something is part of the instrumetation (this really gets neat if you consider the Plumderphonics of John Oswald - cf. Greyfolded), an hommage or plagerism. And further which of the three is, or even when does any of the three become a copyright violation? James. Who's Octavio Paz "sample" is attached in compliance with a Fair Use Policy of not more than 10% of a work, used for home study purposes, etc. ;-) ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What sets worlds in motion is the interplay of differences, their attractions and repulsions; life is plurality, death is uniformity. - - Octavio Paz ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 08:10:31 EST From: SnowyDay85@aol.com Subject: sexing the cherry moon As to whoever might know the answer to this....when was sexing the cherry moon originally written??? Snowy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 11:53:57 +0000 From: Iain.Donaldson@newcastle.ac.uk Subject: Jewel is....... Just a thought: People who are saying Jewel is changing/selfish/selfless ect. What right do we have to generalise someone Jewel, or anybody, into categories? Jewel is Jewel. What right do we to complain that Jewel is diffrent from what she used to be? We can trust Jewel to be Jewel. No more, no less. If we can't accept these things, why sould we be on the list that dedicated to Jewel. This what I strive to become. If I able to see people this way I feel I will be a better person. Iain ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #132 ***************************