From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #124 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Friday, February 20 1998 Volume 03 : Number 124 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- [none] [kallisti23@juno.com] Absence of Fear Lyrics? [CoryChapin@aol.com] Song Like Me Thread [C*A*S*E*Y ] NJC: Hi people [Karel William Sebek ] Re: Something else [laura282@juno.com (Laura P)] Jewel Overweight!?! [Tanner Evans ] jewel weighs....just joking [SnowyDay85@aol.com] New thread.. :) [The Doskocil Family ] Jewel songs I relate to the most. ["Amie Nilles" ] Jewel is the real Angel ["Daniels" ] Re: Run Tonto Run interpretation [Tlcathome@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 06:26:11 -0500 (EST) From: kallisti23@juno.com Subject: [none] by m21.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id AxI20745; Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:05:28 EST To: Jewel@smoe.org Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:47:37 -0800 Subject: NJC: I believe (re)introductions are in order.... Message-ID: <19980219.204739.9910.2.kallisti23@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 1.49 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-2,7-8,10-16 Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Hey all... I figured Id take this moment to introduce myself to those who dont know me... Im Kerry, a 20 year old male and pt time student from Tacoma, Wa. Im jsut here for the morale support... my roomates keep giving me a bad time about liking Jewel. :) (They're actually a couple of great guys). And for the three of you who *might* remember me from when I was on this list oh-so-long ago, HI! Ill keep quiet now before I embarass myself further :) Kallisti The SCAdian Angel ___________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:48:28 EST From: CoryChapin@aol.com Subject: Absence of Fear Lyrics? I'm sorry if this has been asked already but I've not seen any posting yet. Could someone please post (or e-mail me privately) the lyrics to Absence of Fear? Thanks in advance. Laura ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:28:33 +0000 From: C*A*S*E*Y Subject: Song Like Me Thread I think "Fish Family" suits me best. Most of my family are dorks and I feel wierd around them, so that song helps me out when I have a reunion or something. Danke, C*A*S*E*Y - -- "one good things about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain" - --Bob Marley ****************************************************************** http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/5146/casey.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:54:50 -0500 From: Karel William Sebek Subject: NJC: Hi people Heya! I've enjoyed some of Jewels work for a while, and decided to attempt to participate in this forum from time to time. Currently, I'm on the digest and news lists but anticipate that I won't be on the news list for long due to volume of posts so if you reply to a post I've made to the news list -please- CC: a copy to my mailbox or I might not read it. Thanks! Take care, Karel - -- ksebek@pobox.com Karel William Sebek ksebek@yakko.cs.wmich.edu a fan of The Censorware Project http://www.spectacle.org/cwp/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 19:15:22 -0600 From: laura282@juno.com (Laura P) Subject: Re: Something else In Hollywood, A LOT of people are anorexic/bullimic. I'm so glad that Jewel hasn't started anything like that, she's beautiful just the way she is!!! It's ok to notice that she was overweight, or whatever, but we shouldn't judge her for that, or at all! I agree with your post, baker. Laura laura282@juno.com On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 23:39:31 -0600 (CST) Baker writes: >i'm sure this is going to get a bunch of replies, but i figure i might >as >well put in what i think...yeah, she looked a little "heavier" or >whatever >you want to call it, but it in no way destroyed her natural beauty >that >she possesses...sure, her looks probably got a lot of people listening >to >her music, but the "true" fans (such as us) have looked past that and >into >the inner sources that she (and us) contain...so, i guess all i'm >trying >to say is that hollywood's idea that women have to be all skinny and >made-up and fake is bullshit...be yourself > >later >baker ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:29:39 -0800 (PST) From: Tanner Evans Subject: Jewel Overweight!?! Hi all! I just thought I'd throw my little tidbit in about Jewel being overweight. Personally, I don't think she is at all overweight. She has a nice body. She is perfect in every way! They say, television adds 10 pounds onto you. She has the perfect voice, the perfect body. She is like an angel, she has hair of gold, eyes of gold, and even her tan is a goldish color! She is quite slim and looks fairly athletic. Shes gotta be an angel! Its not possible to be that perfect and yet be a human. Tanner Evans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:42:22 EST From: SnowyDay85@aol.com Subject: jewel weighs....just joking OK people- let's see, Jewel dubs us EDA's because of our honest, faithful good nature and here we are criticising her for a supposed weight gain (one which, myslef I have not noticed.) Those who have no sinned throw the first stone. if she has gained weight-first off, you shouldn't care. but if you do, are we supposed to believe you yourself are the sultan of looks? pardon me, Jewel's beautiful. in every way of the word. what are we doing questioning this? imagine if jewel were to read all our "everyday angel" mail. Sorry, i know whoever posted it was being pretty honest, but perhaps we should save any questioning of her until we get back on the EDA track- the one where all of us would post, "oh jewel was great on the rosie show"; "got any angelfood?", and "jewel will be appearing on leno." Now its, "Jewel is overweight." "Jewel is too selfish (NOT reffering to the selfish-selfless post, i thought that was true, we all need self examination), she's concieted, she is too commercial..." Perhaps I am seeing the negative side in the angels, but you are seeing the negative side of jewel (some of you.) there is always room for improvements- :-) Please, i meant to offend nobody. But please, lets just try to be less critical. A very few minority of you (i love you all) act like the little girl in 'house of cards'- if something's wrong, it has to be right. there's all there is to it. Please don't flame me, i meant well, just a review of philosophy on this matter. :) I love you all, and I would never want to hurt you. shed the lead wings and fly like jewel wants us to Snowy the angel with lead wings (it's from a poem, i'm not a hypocrit :-) ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:30:37 -0700 From: The Doskocil Family Subject: New thread.. :) Okay, I've once again fallen prey to the thread trend. First.... What song reminds me most of myself? I think the reason I love Jewel in the first place is because I relate to EVERY song. Off the top of my head, though, I'd have to say that Sometimes It Be That Way reminds me of me. The rapidity of the song is like me... I like to do things fast and get them over with... The words are too much like me, in fact, I used to say "Sometimes it be that way" all the time, before I'd heard the song!! I tend to blow things off and be very nonchalant about things. Also, Carnivore is like me, cause I seem to have a phobia of falling for the wrong person, or trusting my pink fleshy heart to a carnivore... And last, I'd have to say that Angel Standing By reminds me most of myself. I find fulfillment in being there for others. I always want to be everyone's Angel Standing By... Okay, thanks for reading! Keep smiling, Ryan The jagged little angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:49:34 PST From: "Amie Nilles" Subject: Jewel songs I relate to the most. Ok, I'm usually a silent angel, but I figured I'd join in. The Jewel song I can relate to the most is Daddy, because of the relationship I have with my father. Another song I relate to alot is Near You Always, because there is someone in my life that I would like to be near always. Ok I spoke. Now I'll go back into hiding. hehe Just kidding. Bye-bye for now, all you sweet angels. Amie The Fire And Ice Angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 23:32:05 -0800 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVIE P.!!!!!!!! Today was Steve Poltz's 38th b-day....just thought you all should know....if you flame us the lord will blast you to the ground....Steve good.....you bad....hehehehe. Love Ya'll Till We Split Open And Melt, Lora & Natalie The Nothing Angels (because it's really lame to name an angel) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 00:57:53 EST From: Love1612@aol.com Subject: To anyone that wants to read it This is to anyone that wants to read it- any angel or any ordinary person. I sit here at my computer and read. every post I have to read over and over and think it through- how does this person think and how do they feel about it truthfully. Do they Like what they write or like write what they like? I don'exactly know what this post is about and I suppose neither do you. To all of us criticizing the people that criticize the people that criticize. We don't realize it but we do. I'm not sure if this is a poem but I guess it turned into one or two While I was writting. As I type I know, I'm criticizing those people that criticize those people that do. We're not always angels - not even I If you've gotten an E-Mail from me you'd probably see why. Sometimes I sign it with The "other" angel(sometimes) But we can't forget we all still love Jewel and she could never die- well at least not in my heart I have a space for all of you there too. So don't worry, I'll be watchin after you. from, the "other" angel, *Natasha* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 22:36:17 -0800 From: moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Sami, Cobby) Subject: on jewel i am so grateful to jewel for a number of things. first, that she's not anorexically skinny (ashley reminded me of that). some singers, and many famous people, are so incredibly skinny and that promotes such a terrible message to girls like me, not that i get too taken into them. but jewel is so great in that way. i think jewel is a good model for just about everything. she has the lovliest voice i've ever heard, she is so so so pretty :) and so smart (don't you hate dumb blonde steriotypes? she totally cracks those! go jewel!), she has such insightful, sweet, beautiful lyrics and music that is layered with feeling. she's been through bad times but she seems to have stayed very optimistic through it all, and all her hard work has certainly paid off to an enormously satisfying amount. i am so happy that she is so successful. as for her being selfish, i think that's wonderful. she's done a great job at it (in the good way, of course). how has jewel changed? hm, i wonder if it's because she has become so famous that she doesn't have time to talk to *everyone* (busy life, after all) so she just *seems* cold (i read that in someone's posting, i think). i mean i'm sure she's as great a person as ever, maybe it's just that she has so many fans. i'm exhausted, so later. sam moonsong@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 98 13:12:55 +0100 From: M.C.Ummelen@mel.dsm.nl Subject: [none] <"34ED72A1.1B9E.BEFB.000*Ummelen_Marcel_MC//MEL/NL/400net/DSM"@MHS> Subject: Song that touch closest to me... Mime-Version: 1.0 To: jewel@smoe.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Hello Angels, I would like to tell you what my most intimite experience is with Jewel's music. Last november together with some friends I did attend the Amsterdam concert. In May we had been seeing Jewel in Amsterdam also and the thoughts about that concert did weak a special feeling inside me. Because there is one song she does regularly and I love that specially I planned to request it. And at the time I heard Innocence Maintained on Jewelstock I instantly was in love with it. The lyrics are so touching. It's difficult to show your innocence in many perspectivs. Many people I know personally 'lost' there innocence on sight. But if you look deeper inside them, it's not lost at all. They didn't maintain it. The up-tempo of this song amplifies the effect on my feelings. So I requested the song last November. I wrote a note (large text!), laid it down on stage, she read it and pasted the song in the setlist. It came from very deep out of her heart. Most songs do but those emotions I will never forget. And after the song she gave me a big smile and I have heard the next songs but don't have a memory of them anymore. That Innocence Maintained will never be erased in my memory. Jewel showed her love for her fans that night. Hopefully she will be touring soon again. Marcel. "Angel from the Netherlands" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 09:33:07 -0800 From: lil.goalie13@juno.com (Tara A Ali) Subject: contest-only 1 day left to all of you angels who are/were considering entering my contest, don't forget that tomorrow is the deadline. whatever i recieve tonight or tomorrow morning can still be entered. just remember.... 1.name 2.age 3.something (anything) funny. have fun and good luck =) - -tara, the ice angel ps. does anyone know of any savage garden or backstreet boys mailing lists? if so, could you please tell me? thanks =) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 01:05:55 -0600 From: Aaron S Foster Subject: SJC: Trent Reznor Hey, this is like my first REAL post to the list but on to the interesting stuff that I found while looking over Trent Reznors home page: The article on his page is talking about his new album impossible pain and the remix to the album improbable pain: at the bottom people who have asked to do remixes of his songs and I quote: "lso showing up for sure as remix artists will be members from: KMFDM, Coil, RATM, Scofflaws and(oddly enough) Jewel, who is begging me to pen a really misogynistic tune that she can sing acoustic. I can't figure how someone can get so weird by the age of like, what... 17? No matter what, "improbable pain" is going to be the most diverse and f$#%ed up remix album we've ever done." If ya don't believe me goto http://www.23x.com/treznor/indexe.html click on Halo Next and goto the bottom of the page and read it for your self l8r all Aaron This life is a test. Had it been an actual life you would have received further instructions on where to go and what to do. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 10:02:39 -0500 From: "Daniels" Subject: Jewel is the real Angel Hello all of you EDA's. I have been on this list for about a week now, and that's it. But just from that I can feel this sort of tie you have with each other, since you love Jewel, you love each other for loving Jewel. It is my humble opinion that Jewel really is an angel. She sings about things that matter in this world. She sings about people, and how wrong we are. All of her sogns aren't just about hopeless love or an ending relationship. Her songs make you think. They make you think about what kind of a person you are, and how to make yourself better. I know that her song "Foolish Games" made me think about my life, and helped me through a very difficult time. Now I'm only 15, and you might think that there is nothing a 15 year old would really have a problem with, but I did. Even younger this happened, I was 14 at the time and was in a relationship that was abusive. It isn't something I want to share with all of you, so we'll leave it at that. Also I have having problems at home with my father, he is always telling me how stupid I am, just not in so many words. So I talked to him about it after I heard that song. It helped alot. Enough of my rambling, I just wanted to say that Jewel, to me, is an Angel, and I will always see her that way. And now being on this list I see so many other people who love Jewel for their reasons and i see this bond between you and Jewel, and it's like since you're all so involved with her through this, you have some of her light, and you are all angels too. Being on this list for a wekk, and already I love you all, and I think that whoever it was that started the "Little thread of happiness" was right on. I forget who it was though, I'm sorry and I don't want to say the wrong name. We should get to know each other, we should all be close friends and right there for each other when we need it. And there for people around us too. That's what Angels are for. Amy *Just one of you Angels, most known as The Optimistic Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 11:09:41 EST From: Tlcathome@aol.com Subject: Re: Run Tonto Run interpretation Wow, it's been forever since I last posted...... Well, I just had to speak up and disagree with Sean here. I find this song to be very emotive. Forgive me if I'm not as eloquent or as philosophical as Sean in trying to explain myself, but I'll attempt it anyway.... Please keep in mind that this is no more than my thoughts and feeling regarding Run Tonto Run :-) I see the song as saying that the 'you' in the song is small, petty, and self-involved and that the voice of the song (she) is no longer going to allow this person to affect her. Take the first few lines "You live in a box, miniature hands, tiny socks. Your love is sigh, it passes me by. You're a splinter in my vain, a volcano in the rain. You're in love with your clone, which means you're alone." These lines I think portray this selfishness (with the negative connotation :-Þ) and her refusal to be taken in any more. Then I think the song turns more towards feeling that it's time to run and leave this relationship behind - take the line "you better run Tonto run, pale, hollow frame. Run Tonto Run, you bled your blood in vain..." To me this illustrates the frustration in the relationship, realizing that all you've done to work towards it, has been done for nothing. And then "Don't even think, the ship won't sink, I won't hesitate. You choke on your hate.." This, to me, says she won't hesitate to leave it all behind her. Then, she ends with "Don't even try, don't want no piece of your sky, and I won't look back, 'cause your blue is all black." Here I feel it says not to even try to hold on and promise things will be better - she knows better now - like he's trying to paint over the negative, but it won't work - she can see through it now. OK, that's my take on the entire song :-) I just really wanted to point out that I don't think that it's a 'cutesy' song in the least - sure Jewel has those too, but I like them - who wants to be serious and deep all the time? :-) Life's too short to take it too seriously all the time :-) Huggles :-) Ta :-) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #124 ***************************