From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #121 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Thursday, February 19 1998 Volume 03 : Number 121 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- What song reminds you of yourself thread [Majick1473@aol.com] NJC-Joy Eden Harrison Update [ABershaw@aol.com] The perfect rose [karen418@juno.com (Karen I Murry)] NJC: Steve Poltz [Charlie Watkins ] One more selfish thing(Sean Hooks) [Sean Hooks ] Jewelstock [TFace151@aol.com] Jewel Songs [TFace151@aol.com] NJC:Angelic Webpage [mrbruce@imap4.asu.edu] NJC: Angel Ages [Sean Patrick Marlow ] Re: Something else [Brandis850@aol.com] Re: Something else [raisingrrrl@juno.com (Ashley Brumback)] stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Chester Ekstrand ] a relevent (IMO) poem from the Precious One ["Jay C. Johnson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 09:02:21 EST From: Majick1473@aol.com Subject: What song reminds you of yourself thread That's easy since I've only herd POY, the song that most reminds me of myself is YWMFM, but not the radio version. I sing(although I don't have a great talent in spit of what some people say) Because, well it's the story of my life, basically. I'd love to get more into it, but long stories usually just tick peopleoff. I'll be glad to tell my story if you ask , but other than that, this is it. Thanks, Majick The Racecar Driving Angel (and yes I really do race) Other songs that run a close second and third: Racecar Driver(which I finally heard thanks to the Jewel Audio Only Page) and Rocker Girl (which some nice person sent to me via AOL's crappy e-mail service) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:52:08 EST From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: NJC-Joy Eden Harrison Update Hi all, Joy Eden Harrison, who many of you know & love & who many more will soon know through Future Folklore Volume 3, took some time to write & say hello today. I asked her what's up since moving to Chicago & here's some (edited) updates for those interested. MrBB As for whats up? Hmmmmm.... "The Love Beneath Your Lies" is now in a film entitled "Curtain Call". Its an Independent film by a well known director, Peter Yates. It stars Michael Kane, Maggie Smith, Sam Shepard, and James Spader. Its aready got European distribution but its currently in negotiations for an American release. I'm pretty happy about that. This weekend I'm going into the studio to record a soundtrack for a film short that was written and directed by a new director, here in Chicago. Its film festival bound this summer. He saw me sing somewhere and asked me if I would be interested in writing the theme song. Its been a fun project. I even got to play a cameo role as a bartender. As for performing, I'm going back to San Diego in March. I'll do a show at Claire De Lune while I'm there. That will be on the 28th of March, and a show is pending in LA on Sunday the 22nd of March. As for the next album, no official news yet. Kris Kane, my humble cyberbodhisattva, and I are just about ready to get the site up in the engines... we will put in the finishing touches very soon. love, Joy Note from MrBB: JEH's site can be visited in its current form at: http://www.ojo.com/kk/joy/ Future Folklore Volume 3 signup info can be found at: http://www.angelfoodbank.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:48:54 EST From: karen418@juno.com (Karen I Murry) Subject: The perfect rose Does it really matter as to whether or not you are selfish or selfless? No matter who you are, a famous tv idol or an everyday nobody, you are still going to be selfish. Don't deny it because it's in your nature. Sure, you can donate a billion dollars to the humane society, or spend 20+ hours at the nearest nursing home, you are still selfish. If you look at the Bible (not to offend anybody, I am just using this as an example because pretty much everyone knows this story,even if you are Jewish, Christian, Buddhist, etc...) only one person in the whole entire world wasn't selfish. They called her immaculate. So the Supreme being, they called God, planted his own son in her body. If we were all selfless, and perfect, we would all be caring around some baby to save the world (unless you are a guy, then it would be kinda hard). I guess my point being is that nobody can be completely selfless, or selfish. If you want to get ahead in life, you must think of yourself first before others. You need to survive somehow. After your needs are done, then you can take care of everyone else's problems. Every individual has their own problems. Jewel lived in a van part of her life for God sakes, her first instinct is to take care of herself. By her sharing her music with us all makes her just as selfless or selfish as the person who listens. As an EDA, just hearing her music is good enough, not who she helped out along the way because she is not playing music to help someone out, she plays to be heard and loved. We are all equal in every way,no matter who you are. Ralph Waldo Emerson once wrote "There is simply the rose; it is perfect in every moment of its existence." Think about it. I am not writing this to get flamed, or to offend anybody. I am just trying to help, and if that makes me selfish, then so be it. I am just as selfish as anyone reading this. ~Angel Princess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 11:19:02 -0700 (MST) From: Charlie Watkins Subject: NJC: Steve Poltz I forgot the name of Polio Boy's single/promo release that's out now. Can Someone please privately email that to me? Thanks. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:47:46 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Hooks Subject: One more selfish thing(Sean Hooks) Guess I started a nice sized discussion about something that's actually an intelligent topic that is relevent to Jewel and her music. (I used to do that all the time and was beginning to think it just wasn't possible anymore with the size of the list, Jewel's overpopularity and other factors). Basically I just want to thank the overwhelming majority of people who have agreed with me(It doesn't always happen that way ya' know ;-) in posts and in private emails. There were only two people who disagreed and it had to do with Joel's post about how the word selfish implies disregard for others and how it has a negative connotation. It has that negative connottion in Society, but the actual definition of the word does not have that connotation, it is something that has happened over time and it happens to a lot of words. So, thank you again all for seeing the validity of my original post and to many for even adding to it. I'll try to come up with something to spark another thread soon. Hey, I try. Later, Sean Hooks "Love and friendship are profoundly personal, selfish values: love is an expression and assertion of self-esteem, a response to one's own values in the person of another. One gains a profoundly personal, selfish joy from the mere existence of the person one loves. It is one's own personal, selfish happiness that one seeks, earns and derives from love." - -Ayn Rand ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:55:26 EST From: TFace151@aol.com Subject: Jewelstock Hey, I was just wondering, since I am new to the list, if this Jewelstock will ever happen again? Or if the EDA's ever have gatherings? I was just wondering because I think it would be cool to meet people from the list. Just wondering. Love, Teresa (Swiss MIss Angel) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:50:09 EST From: TFace151@aol.com Subject: Jewel Songs The song that describes me the best is " Rocker Girl" Let me explain. It is kinda upbeat and cheesy. And cute and funny. I am kinda like that. the song that means the most to me is "Near You ALways" Love, Teresa (Swiss Miss Angel) Ps> is this an ok name? let me know ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 15:08:16 -0700 (MST) From: mrbruce@imap4.asu.edu Subject: NJC:Angelic Webpage I got this addy from a friend. It's a page for missing children. I thought since there were so many people on this list that you never realy know what might happen. Thanks for your time. http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/5774/angel.html Bruce(mike bruce) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 18:32:20 -0500 From: Sean Patrick Marlow Subject: NJC: Angel Ages I know that we did a poll a while ago, but I am interested in finding out who our youngest angel and our oldest angel are. If you think you may be a possible candidate for either of these email me privately! I'll let you all know who receives the honors once the emails stop rolling in! Thanks! Sean *************************************** "you learn to build all your roads on today because tomorrow's ground is too uncertain for plans." -V.A. Shoffstall *************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 16:13:03 EST From: Brandis850@aol.com Subject: Re: Something else In a message dated 98-02-19 00:11:57 EST, you write: << I'm not trying to criticize but I want to know if you guys seen her a little over weight on Leno. She looked a little over weight. Not that that's bad or anything just a question. Don't start sending me hate mail now. Just an answer. >> That's why I love Jewel. She is not completely obsessed with being anorexic and frail. If you notice, her weight seems to go up and down... in her Pieces of You CD she is heavier than she was maybe a year ago. I think she always looks great. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:24:11 -0500 From: raisingrrrl@juno.com (Ashley Brumback) Subject: Re: Something else On Wed, 18 Feb 1998 22:22:39 EST dijewe1@juno.com (Diana Ruiz) writes: >Hey all, > I'm not trying to criticize but I want to know if you guys seen >her a little over weight on Leno. She looked a little over weight. >Not that that's bad or anything just a question. Don't start sending >me hate mail now. Just an answer. jesus christ. i am so tired of people calling women who look "womanly" overweight. women, by nature have breasts and hips and thighs. that's the way we are made. and that's so beautiful. for some reason people think underweight is the right weight. Jewel is not overweight. women are blessed with beautiful curvy fleshy bodies. Jewel should be praised for her appearance. she is sending such a powerful important message to young girls, every one actually. you don't have to weigh 100 pounds to be beautiful. beauty comes in so many shapes and sizes and it's really refreshing to see Jewel proudly proving that. ashley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 13:29:32 -0800 From: Chester Ekstrand Subject: stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey Angels! I'm a newbie and I'd like more info about getting adopted and getting other Jewel recordings and stuff. I have SOOOOOOO much to learn about this stuff!!!!! Whew! Well about this new thread. What Jewel song reminds you most of yourself? Well, I know the song is old, but I love it. Foolish Games and You Were Meant For Me. I don't know why. I've gone through so much in my thirteen years. I demand the best and I don't always get it. I demand the best and that's why I like Jewel =) I don't think that anyone has ever given me a straight message about life. Always a confusing metaphor and then left leaving me baffled and my chin hanging on the ground. The only person who will never leave is yourself. When she says "Maybe I've mistaken you for somebody else, somebody who gave a damn, somebody more like myself" I have to sing along. My voice get so strong. I feel so "in power" and I realize that I've even mistaken myself for someone I'm not. I've mistaken so many people for people who actually cared. And I've realized, the only person that I'm ever going to trust... is myself. Love and jewel forever, Stevie (I am a GIRL!) - -the inspired angel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 98 18:07:02 CST From: "Jay C. Johnson" Subject: a relevent (IMO) poem from the Precious One Here is something a little more meaningful than my last post, which I also found during my trip to the archives. With all the critcism that is that comes withbeing a celebrity (not that I now, personally, or ever really want to experience), especially with big events such as awards shows (flashbacks to last year's Grammies), I found this poem to be very relevent. It was posted to the list June 19, 1995. (and I think I saw it on someone's website also) I'll include the rest of them message at the bottom. ============================================== Then she scribbled out a copy of a poem from her journal. It's amazing- the thing is stuffed full of poetry and it's like only the last two months worth! She said she has many many journals of poetry. Also, she never titles her poems- so..... "poem written at the airport cafeteria 6/12/95 after reading a bad press review" by Jewel Kilcher I think of the scrutiny and shrink beneath its million eyes has she gained weight? does blue become her? is she losing her light? Never "My I believe her intent is growing, if not her skill" Never noticing deaths Misfigured face in perfection or beauty in the awkward struggle of a new direction We've become fascinated With the fixed We possess all the curiosity of a cul-de-sac as though the honor lied in the mastering of the menial It can not be the end for which we live That is death, But for the struggle that keeps us young Daring to make mistakes Knowing there are none. =========================================== Jewel Kilcher to the "Jewel" mailing-list My fellow music lovers- I can't begin to portray to you the feeling of a dream coming true- I know it sounds corny, but it's so true. And useful. I was just a girl who was tired of waitressing and people believed in me and fed me by coming to my shows. Without my friends in San Diego, and now this incredible new group of people across the country I would still be hungry in my van. Now I'm just hungry in a rent-a-car in 48 states in 40 days- but my heart loves it! 24 hours of this a day is better than three hours of waitressing. Sometimes record labels think they sell albums- but they don't- they help, but it's you guys who help me. So often our dreams become our hobbies and it deadens our passions. I love my life and want to thank you al. I know our lives are separate and that none of you have to care about my happiness, but that you do things like taking the time to call radio stations means a lot to me. I hope I can give back as much as I'm given. I wrote a song I'd like to dedicate to you all. It's called "Deep Water." I hope you can all hear it one day. Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 98 17:47:25 CST From: "Jay C. Johnson" Subject: Fruit Roll-Up Pants hehehe I love that subject header. that may ring a bell for some of the veterans, but I found it interesting. Well, after Crunch made the post about Jewel posting to the list, I decided to peruse the digest archives for this list. (the started Jan. 1 1996 and can be found at http://www.smoe.org/lists/jewel/archives/ if any of you get the same urge to discover some listhistory, like I did). Anyways, I discovered an interesting message from Jewel which raised my opinion of her creativity to a whole new level. here is the excerpt: - ---------------------------------------- Anyway......has anyone out there ever fantisized about having a pair of pants made out of fruit roll-ups? just curious. actually, i dont think i really want to know. - ---------------------------------------- (I'll post the whole thing at the end). This gave me an idea. Jewel had said on Rosie, that she didn't want to get all dressed up and everything for the Grammies, so how about a nice pair of casual Fruit Rollup pants?!? Just a thought. :o) Jay Johnson The entire original message: From: Jon Held Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 18:21:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: REPOST: letter from Jewel This is for all the new people! Enjoy... -Jon Held P.S. I'm seeing Jewel in.... in.... in 2 HOURS! Good golly oh gosh. I'm gonna tell her my feelings on fruit-roll-up pants, and I suggest that you who will see her soon do the same. (that was grammatically disasterous, no?) - - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 16:29:05 -0500 From: Hiranya@XXX To: Jewel@smoe.org Subject: note from Jewel Well, this is my third attempt to send this, the other two have come back. Jewel's mom sent this to me on the 26th to send out to us all. Jewel wrote it on the 26th before leaving for the airport to fly to NY to practice with the band for Conan Nov. 26th Well, The remedial typer sits down to communicate in such a neat (and slightly homogonized) tongue. i only say that because i am an absolutely retarded typer. And impatient. too impatient to even bother with that rascaly caps lock button that is so convienently close to my wee pinky. Anyway......has anyone out there ever fantisized about having a pair of pants made out of fruit roll-ups? just curious. actually, i dont think i really want to know. just want to tell you all how lucky i feel to have such sweet and sincere fans. i feel very supported by you all and am thankful you arent the scavenging overly gossipy types. youre all every day angels for sure. i just finished correcting oodles and oodles of lyrics, i cant believe you have taken the time to do this. i thought some of the stuff was lost forever,thankyou! I dont even remember the song 'A Houswife's Revenge'. so i couldnt correct the lyric. does anyone have a taped copy of it so i could relearn it? So im off on the road again, in the winter--YUCK! Happy holidays and all that stuff. dont forget to get perfect moments stuck between your teeth. love blah blah blah, jewel ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #121 ***************************