From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V3 #116 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, February 18 1998 Volume 03 : Number 116 * If you wish to unsubscribe, send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://jewel.zoonation.com and click on "TOUR" * OR * go to the OFFICIAL Jewel home page at http://www.jeweljk.com * and go to the "What, When, Where" section * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: jewel-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:where's the eda's silver lining? <> ["Daniels" ] Re: Enlightenment on staying on the list and Jewel(long) [DGlowAngel@aol.] NJC: Sarah mclachlan [SnowyDay85@aol.com] I'm not sure ["Robby Fischer" ] A question [MAXMOUZE@aol.com] NJC: I'm back :-) ...it's Christy/Trueblu4u1 [AngelChass@aol.com] NJC: Just a little something!! [Shawn Duckett ] can anyone assist me? ["Teryn Robinson" ] Jewel is SELFISH, not selfless, and that's a good thing [Sean Hooks Subject: Re:where's the eda's silver lining? <> <'depressed vulnerable teens that let men step all over them' her poetry 'like a high school poetry magazine", so on. > I have heard people say things like this about her also. I try to explain it to them, but sometimes people only see what they want to see. Jewel is a beautiful person and a wonderful artist, and some people can't appreciate that. My sister doesn't "get" her songs, so she doesn't like them. All I want to say, is how happy I am that I DO understand her songs and her poetry, because if I didn't, I would be missing out on alot, Jewel and on you EDA's who I love to pieces ~Ώτ Amy *The Optimistic Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:08:42 EST From: Zaria2@aol.com Subject: JC: Reference to Aphrodite in "Sometimes It Be That Way" Hi Angels! I was hoping you could help me with a school project that I have due tomorrow. We are beginning to study Greek Mythology and I needed to find a reference to the god Aphrodite. It turns out that I found it in one of my favorite Jewel songs! And this is where you guys come in... I need to explain what the reference means, but I'm kind of usure of it. So here is the line from the song: "And Aphrodite with her neon lamp Kissed Neptune they put her face on a stamp" If you know what this means PLEASE e-mail me with an explanation (Zaria2@aol.com). Thanks a bunch... Oh yea, it would be greatly appreciated if I got this really soon... like before 6 am EST Wednesday morning. Thanks SO much in advance! Love, *Jen* The Hopelessly Romantic Angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 08:01:10 -0700 (MST) From: Charlie Watkins Subject: Re: Jewel only for On Tue, 17 Feb 1998, Barry Howarth wrote: ... > I'm 56 years old, a single father (till my kids grew up and left home a > couple of years ago) and a long-time trade union activist (and still > secreatary of the local branch of my union and a national councillor of the > union). And I love Jewel, for who she is, what she has to say and the > music she makes (and I'm sure I'll love the movies she'll make)... Yay, Barry. Let's here it for us old guys (I'm 47). I agree that what Jewel has to say is upbeat, positive and challenging. It's what made me listen and keeps me listening. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:57:13 EST From: DGlowAngel@aol.com Subject: Re: Enlightenment on staying on the list and Jewel(long) I> We're all > EDA's...We support Jewel and as a community we shoukd support each other. > We already share with each other and do things to show the outside that > we're EDA's. We have bumper stickers, angelfood, shirts, poem books, > websites, meetings etc... Wow! I didn't know we had all those things... where do we get them? could someone e-mail me please? > This is an incredible aspect that shows we do have > compassion for each other...We have copmassion for those material things > with each other...And this is not for everyone..But why don't we take it a > step higher and try to develop respect for each other's opinions??? As > EDA's we should all look deep into our hearts and determine what it means > to be an EDA...We have to be faithful EDA's or at least try...When we we > do this, we'll get along better and wear our wings proudly....in harmoney > with each other... Maxine made a wonderful point here, but first I would like to say I'm glad you're staying and if we really want to, we could all get along. We're a very special group of people and I haven't met one person on here that I'm not positive I could be very close friends with. We all have something wonderful in common - we all love and understand Jewel - our angel. I'm proud of you guys, because since Maxine's original post I've seen a lot of posts from people who want to make the EDAs a tight loving group. And I, for one, know we can do it. DayGlow Angel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We are each of us Angel's, with just one wing, and we can only fly embracing each other."~Liciano De Crescenzo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We are EveryDay Angels, be careful with me, cause I'd like to stay that way"~Jewel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 17:20:36 EST From: SnowyDay85@aol.com Subject: NJC: Sarah mclachlan Sorry for the unrealted Jewel topic, but I didn't know where else to look: is there any sarah mclachlan list and how would i get on it? thanks, snowy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 15:12:01 PST From: "Robby Fischer" Subject: I'm not sure You know, it's interesting, how normal and cliche we really are. Jewel inspired to me to play the guitar and pursue a career in music. Also how a feeling you get by a song of hers can only be matched by another that she wrote. No other artist has given me as much inspiration and motivation as she has...but that's a normal thing around here isn't it? Or how when you watch her perform you can't take your eyes off of her until she finishes because she holds you attention that well and has such an on-stage presence to do that...I'm willing to bet that too, is normal here. Or how you can feel what she must be feeling when she sings those gut-wrenching songs...that must also be normal, but as a side note, that's quite a powerful feeling for so many people to have. I guess I'm just putting this in perspective for my own benefit, because it seems with the hate mail that's being talked of around the mailing list, and strong opinions of Jewel that exist around here I think I have to know where I stand. I've learned something from chatting online a long time, especially with people that have strong opinions in any subject. You can insult the man and get away with it, but if you insult something he loves, then you've crossed the line. I've just got on here not, but a week ago and have learned much by listening. It looks like we have a hate mail war going on and Jewel talk at the same time, all over opinions. And still, we struggle for peace on the list. Where there's an opinion there'll be people who don't think the same way you do. Please keep any posts like that that can be categorized as "hate mail" of the list. Well what started as a post about cliches and normalness turned into a post about opinions and hate mail. Guess that what happens when you digress. Oh well, I've said enough. Robby the over analzying angel (and notorious digressor) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:25:05 EST From: MAXMOUZE@aol.com Subject: A question I was just wondering if anyone knew what "Run Tonto Run" was about? Mm__) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:09:00 EST From: AngelChass@aol.com Subject: NJC: I'm back :-) ...it's Christy/Trueblu4u1 Oh my God! I thought I'd never be a member of this list again! A lot of you prolly won't remember me, but it's me Christy. My old email address was Trueblu4u1@aol.com. I can't express how happy I am to be back, and I'd love it if someone was to fill me on all that's happened. I'll make this short, since it's not very important. But, I love you all!!!! ~Christy(Now know as Chass) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 19:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: Shawn Duckett Subject: NJC: Just a little something!! Hi all EDAs, I'v got a question for you all.... Do any of you know where a Sting mailling list is and what the e-mail is???? I'm a really BIG fan of STING and JEWEL. Both great in my eyes, by the way I wrote 2 new songs Thanks to Jewel. !!!!!!!!THANK YOU SO MUCH JEWEW!!!!!!!! WILL that is all I have to post right now I will be sure to try to post more (I'll try) will latter all EDA's/friends/Angeles//// :):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):):) == Night Angle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 21:39:51 CST From: "Teryn Robinson" Subject: can anyone assist me? Is there a site where I can find Jewel set lists??? I'm looking for the list of what she sang at Lilith Fair in Tinley Park (Chicago), IL, last August because mine is incomplete. Also, I'd be more than willing to trade if anyone has this show, which was the highlight of the night. I have a bunch of Tori Amos, some Sarah McLachlan, and some Indigo Girls. If someone can help in any way, please email me privately. Thanks! Teryn :) PS From what I've seen so far, everyone seems really nice. I'm glad I decided to join the list. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Sean Hooks Subject: Jewel is SELFISH, not selfless, and that's a good thing Just replying to something I saw in a post about Jewel and her music being "selfless." If anything, Jewel is extremely selfish. Check out her interviews, listen to Deep Water which is an extremely selfish song. A lot of her interviews feature Jewel placing the emphasis on the self and how all she knows is how to deal with herself, examining herself, getting in touch with herself, knowing herself. The rest is beyond her she says and that people should concentrate more on working out their own lives rather than concentrating on what other people do. This is also one of her big objections to fame and being in such a microscope. Selfishness is also the motivation behind a song like Satellite. She is upset by the fact that we as human beings can put satellites into space but we can't internalize and introspectively look at ourselves and improve our own lives. And of course the bigger issue is how selfishness is a virtue but unfortunately society has placed an implication around the word selfish implying that selfishness is somehow bad. When in actuality it is the key to success, advancement, and coming to terms with one's inner being. It is altruism that is the negative, not selfishness. The misconception that somehow for something to be good it has to involve giving up personal goals for the goals of another. That we have to sacrifice and compromise in order to be "good." It is in fact the opposite. To sacrifice is to give up something you want more for something you want less, and that is about as unproductive and as hurtful of a thing as I can imagine. Altruism declares that any action done for others is good while any action taken for one's own benefit is evil. Seem illogical to anyone else? Just something to think about folks. Later, Sean Hooks "The attack on selfishness is an attack on man's self-esteem; to surrender one is to surrender the other." - -Ayn Rand ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:47:49 -0500 From: paul@magic.ca (Paul Schreiber) Subject: Re: Jewel only for >Whoever wrote the article on Jewel >that Kat refers to has never really listened to Jewel otherwise he couldn't >say she only appeals to "depressed vulnerable teens that let men step all >over them"! That's so far from the truth as to be totally ridiculous. Exactly. I haven't seen -- and don't care to see the article. But as I've seen in the past day or so in responses, her fans are diverse. I've heard from a few other guys who feel how I d, and it's great. >So the author of the article is wrong. I think he's frightened of Jewel and >what she inspires in people. Jewel is strong and she wants people to be >strong and in control. Who will save your soul, if you don't save your >own? Not Jesus Christ, Muhammad, Buddha, or my old mate Marx, or even >Jewel. Just you yourself. That's hard. That's strong. When I first read that paragraphy, I though "woah, this guy's really overstating it." But I paid closer attention, and what you said really makes sense. People have to save their *own* souls. You have to live with yourself, with your actions. >And don't be afraid of feelings. Being vulnerable doesn't mean being weak. >It means being alive and caring, giving a damn. OK, sometimes you get hurt >and get depressed. But you also feel joy and exhilaration. The opposite of >being vulnerable, being sensitive, is being cynical, heartless, and that >means dead. Again, this is so true. Perhaps it's a north american thing, but sensitivity and emotion aren't typically displayed openly by men. Which is a shame. I want to feel vulnerable at times and be okay with it. I also want someone to be there for me, but that's another topic... And listening to music -- particularly Jewel's -- is wonderful at times like those. >She really is a threat to a lot of people whose selfish worlds would be destroyed if everyone was >like Jewel and were everyday angels. Wouldn't the world be wonderful with more everyday angels.... Paul ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V3 #116 ***************************