From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #827 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk * To unsubscribe send an email to jewel-digest-request@smoe.org * with ONLY the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * For the latest information on Jewel tour dates, go to: * http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/xenomorph/jtour.htm jewel-digest Thursday, October 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 827 Today's Subjects: ----------------- jewel on mtv [QTPYSK8R2@aol.com] Fwd: Jewel in RS [Phlemwodd@aol.com] EDAE-Mixfest [Karen Snyder ] votes=poss.solution [secretmoons@juno.com (L G)] Re: jewel-digest V2 #824 [PEEETEE2@aol.com] Repost: Jewel list is now in a TEMPORARY news ONLY mode - ALL PLEASE READ!!! [Mike Connell ] Lilith Fair II List for FLORIDA [Angelseros@aol.com] Alternative to Jewel-news [joe ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:08:54 -0400 (EDT) From: QTPYSK8R2@aol.com Subject: jewel on mtv ok guys i heard mtv was doing a thing called "live from the 10 spot"and word is jewel will be performing...now they havent said a date but keep your eyes peeled and ears open.If i find out when ill let you guys know...just remember to buy a blank tape and be ready!!! it wont be till she gets back from touring ...but this is just to let you guys know... ***one more thing...does anyone have the songs nicotine love and satellite??i love those songs and i will send a tape and pay for postage .thanx angels!!! love always, jamie *the twinkling angel** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:56:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Phlemwodd@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Jewel in RS - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: Jewel in RS Date: 97-10-09 00:56:13 EDT From: Phlemwodd To: Hrgigerfan OK..i am saying this just so some of you might be able to clear up this whole....Rolling stone hates jewel issue....ok in the lilith fair article they said something a long the lines of the artists at the lilith fair being like a group of friends from high school...and that jewel was the stuck up one....i dont think that they actually meant that jewel was stuck up....but if they were in highschool, she would be considered the stuck up one..just because she is strong willed... Jeremy wrote: >The woman that wrote that letter is the kind of person that gives free speech a >bad name. I mean, free speech doesn't mean blurt out whatever you want, it's >more like, raise your hand. I dont think that this woman gives free speech a bad name....on the contrary..what she said is what free speech is all about.....she is intittled to her oppinion....so dont be mean....its how she pictures jewel..i mean...we arent around her all the time either...although we know a lot more about her...doesnt mean that she isnt really stuck up....i dont agree with what that lady had to say...but sometimes jewel does come across as stuck up.....thats just my opinion.. mothers child, jenifer nicole ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 01:52:47 -0400 From: Karen Snyder Subject: EDAE-Mixfest To those planning to be part of the EDA contingent at Mixfest and those still trying to decide, the official web site is at http://www.mix985.com/ In addition to Rachel's list of attendees: >Chris Snyder >Rachel >Tom O'Brien >Erica Cavallo >Tegan Godwin >Tom & Vicki >Ali >Chris Moynihan >Steph Karatolopolous some others who will be there are: Albert Wang Ted Berberian (strong posibility) Paul Kim Dennis Harris Phil Kelnhofer (latter part and dinner) Karen ps to Lisa Jay.....it's at City Hall Plaza ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 02:16:25 -0500 From: secretmoons@juno.com (L G) Subject: votes=poss.solution Hi, guys, yes it is me. I thought I had better get this on before the news only starts.....Look, I have one vote for no to my proposition and one offer to collaborate on a website. I am thinking the website is a good idea, but I don't want to overstep the bounds of the original idea. Which was to provide advice to the EDAs who need help. So, I am asking Mike, and if anyone has any more comments, please mail me at Secretmoons@juno.com Well, if this passes, I am sure Mike will post it during our 'news only' period. I will also be posting to find any angels who want to become part-time psychiatrists. If anyone wants to talk during this shortage of mail, keep my address handy, and write me.....Sorry, Jay, great minds think alike! Didn't mean to steal your idea, hope you don't mind:) Love you guys, and thanks for all the fun conversations we have had. Even if this advice thing doesn't pass, if you ever need someone to listen, I will be here....."when your laughter turns to quiet....." Oceans of Love and Great Destinies, Secretmoon (The Celestial Angel) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:12:37 -0400 (EDT) From: PEEETEE2@aol.com Subject: Re: jewel-digest V2 #824 hello everybody, im new here. Just heard about this on a website. I read someone's post yesterday about losing the Jewel--Intimate & Interactive tape and others. I can entirely sympathize. About 4 weeks ago the same thing happened to me. Someone recorded over my tape!!!!!!!!! I am very disappointed at this, and would be forever grateful if someone who has this tape could send me a copy. I would be willing to pay someone if they have a copy and could send it to me. Send it COD if you want. My address is: Ben PO BOX 1616 Reedley, CA 93654 I really, really, really, really, hope someone can help me out with my dilemma! :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Thank you ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 06:21:38 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Repost: Jewel list is now in a TEMPORARY news ONLY mode - ALL PLEASE READ!!! This is just a re-post of the announcement from Tuesday night, for the benefit of new folk who have joined the list since this announcement was made. If you have already read this, please delete. From this point on (until the one month period is over), new subscribers will receive a private email informing them of the *temporary* change in this list. ********** Hi everyone, I ask each and every one of the members of this list to please read this entire email so that you will fully understand why this *temporary* change in the lists' format is happening. Some of you may consider it long, and I was asked to keep this short, but I'm a stubborn ol' mule, and I believe in handing out all the necessary information. Thursday morning the Jewel mailing list and its' digest will be undergoing a radical, but TEMPORARY (one month maximum) change into a Jewel-news/EDA-event-news only mode. After this period, it will be returned to "normal". This was not a decision of one, but rather of a council of 18 list members, chosen by me, who discussed this at length recently. It is important that you know why this temporary change is happening, and exactly what it means, as it means that during this period you are asked to post only news-type postings (to be detailed below). Other postings will not get through. (The list will be in full moderation again for this period ONLY) OK, for those of you who are already tempted, before you hit that "reply" button, again, please read all of this, as some VERY GOOD reasons for this are stated below :) Brief note for the really, really new: EDA stands for EveryDay Angel, it's just what we say instead of list members...we say EDAs! (Jewel herself nicknamed this list her "EveryDay Angels" :) I also want to stress that this change really has nothing to do with the disagreements etc that transpired this last weekend. As a matter of fact the problems of the past weekend and subsequent action to stop it actually delayed this upcoming change, (extra work in moderating an open list) as this change was planned well before that all happened. The "EDA Council" I mentioned was formed 10 days ago in anticipation of some problems we were seeing and expecting on the list this month. More on that later. By the way, some of you may not know me. For the benefit of those that do not, let me introduce myself. :) My name is Mike Connell, and presently I manage/maintain the Jewel mailing list and its' digest version for Jeff Wasilko, the person who owns the list (it runs on his system) I've been on this list since March of 1996 and have seen and been involved in many of the AMAZING things that have happened here. Some of you newer members may have read of some of these things (particulary JewelStock) in some of the recent magazines, which may have been your reason for joining us. :) To the new members, I welcome you all! :) However, some of you newer folks may have been surprised at what you found when you joined. (especially the VERY new, who may have joined during this recent "fight") The list has been "suffering" from growing pains for a while now, and we haven't had the chance to heal ourselves yet. We are going to try to heal now. You may have read in some of those those magazine articles of the amazing closeness of this list (it's here, trust me!). That closeness was due in part to the following: 1) JewelStock - a private concert(s) Jewel gave for this very list in July 1996 2) At least 15 other list member gatherings (EDA gatherings) of up to 50 people. Many, no, most of which Jewel wasn't even in the same state. Many of us have met HUNDREDs of fellow list members through these events :) 3) Tape trees - organized distribution of AUTHORIZED tapings of concerts etc of Jewel 4) Production of EDA t-shirts, EDA guitar picks (sold out, 2nd batch DELAYED for reasons I cannot get into now) and the present & forthcoming JEWELry project(s) 5) The James P Kalanick Fund drive - last May the members of this list raised nearly $5,000 towards a fund to raise $20,000 to help buy James P Kalanick a specially equipped van. About a year ago now, he was tragically injured in a hit & run accident, and en lieu of sending her presents for her birthday, Jewel suggested we help James. :) (he's also a San Diego resident) 6) The giving to Jewel of an actual star (a real STAR!) for her birthday. There's a star in the little dipper that is now officially called "Jewel Kilcher (Jewel of the North)". More on this gift can be seen at: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/xenomorph/birthday.htm 7) The Living Room Tours (LRTs) in July/August 1997. Briefly, two talented singer/songwriter friends of Jewel (Elizabeth Hummel & Cindy Lee Berryhill) toured across the USA (and one stop in Canada) performing about a dozen live shows in the living rooms and backyards of members of this list. Attendance at these shows ranged from a dozen to well over a hundred!! and many more things that have happened to this list :) Also the upcoming EveryDay Angels Foundation (EDAF)! It was officially annouunced two weeks ago and is in the final stages of becoming formal. More information on this foundation will be announced during the month :) Because of all of the above, and the many more EDA events that have happened, this list has grown quite close. I know I can speak for many list members here that many of us can say we have met some of our dearest friends because of this list. We owe a lot of that to NJC (Non Jewel Content postings). NJC (in moderation) is truly the lifeblood of this list and is what has built it's character and has helped it grow. It teaches us about each other. However, as we grow in numbers, (this list has nearly qradrupled in the last year), we have growing pains. With these growing pains happening at a steady rate, it has become harder to adjust, and we weren't adjusting fast enough. It has (in the eyes of many, including the 18 EDA council members I mentioned previously) become nearly impossible to adjust now, we feel we have to partially rebuild. Therefore, after much discussion on this council, it was decided to put the list into a temporary slowdown mode. (As I said above, I'll discuss some of the "whys" later.) To do this, it has been decided to make this list, for one month at the most (perhaps only two or three weeks) a Jewel-news and/or EDA-event-news ONLY list. What this means is, that effective at 6:00am Thursday morning Eastern USA time, the list will again become TEMPORARILY fully moderated and the only posts that will be approved and posted to the list (and of course digest) will be Jewel NEWS in nature, or list member event (EDA) NEWS in nature. Now.....WHY? Three main reasons. 1) To give everyone a little vacation from the 60 to 80 daily emails this list brings. I know I certainly could use a breather once in a while from the list, even before I was managing it. I'm sure many of you out there could too. :) Besides, Jewel is out of the country right now until mid-November, so the timimg is right anyway. There's not much "Jewel" to talk about that hasn't already been talked about anyway. 2) Believe it or not, a few of us actually predicted that there would be some list arguments/fights/disagreements this month (the exact week actually!) for one very simple reason. Jewel is touring out of the USA & Canada. In the past, ALL three previous times Jewel left North America to tour abroad, we had "problems" on the list. There are a few explanations for this, but they all boil down to one main thing. Not much "Jewel" to talk about. The Non-Jewel talk goes up (again, to a degree, NJC is good!!!!), the Jewel-talk goes down, and usually, through no ones' fault(!), someone disagrees with or misunderstands the intent of a post to the list, posts about it, and before you know it, BANG, we have a little fight, which at times erupts into a bigger one, an insult here, and insult there, along with the peacekeepers posting for it to stop. We just had one last weekend. It wasn't fun at all. 3) To give the EDA Council the time to further discuss and implement plans and actions already devised into a reality, without having to read the daily 80 emails. The goal of these plans is to better inform newly arriving list members, and some present list members of the the basics on Jewel in general that will help them "fit in" and feel comfortable with this list sooner and likewise about this lists' terminology, ways, guidelines, policies etc. ********************* What is Jewel NEWS? Well, basically, it's news-type posts announcing findings, appearances or reviews about Jewel. If you found a new magazine article, see that there will be a repeat of her appearance on _______ show, went to one of the shows of hers' in Japan or Europe and want to post a review/setlist, by all means do. :) The following is based on the Jewel-news list info file. If you have Jewel news that falls into these categories, feel free to submit it: TOUR SCHEDULE - tour schedules TICKET INFO - dates when tickets go on sale COMPACT DISC RELEASE - release dates & news of albums, singles, soundtracks & promos TV/RADIO APPEARANCE - tv and radio appearances ELECTRONIC MEDIA APPEARANCE - chat sessions, electronic Q&A sessions, etc. WEBCAST - a webcast of a Jewel concert PRINT MEDIA APPEARANCE - newspaper, magazine, and other print articles SET LIST - Europe & Japan concert reviews & set lists *********************************** What is EDA/List member event news? Basically, if you plan on having an EDA gathering/"get together", or want to post a review of one you just went to, please do. It is expected that this change will result in three to five daily emails from jewel@smoe.org plus whatever the EDA Council plans to post in regards to what I mentioned above about better informing new or relatively new list members. There may be more, there may be less. This also means that DIGEST READERS can expect only one digest a day, and that will be the usual one at 1:05am EST. In the event of some larger news postings, there may be two digests a day. Also, please note that since all posts during this one month news-only period will be held up before it's sent on to the list, it may be 8 to 10 hours before you actually see your post on the list (I can only send it on to the list when I'm home) Remember, the list will be returmed to normal in early November. I expect this change will be popular with some (the ones that want that one month vacation from the 80 daily emails!) and unpopular with others (the ones that LOVE 80 emails a day!) Again, this change will go into effect on Thursday at 6:00am Eastern Time USA Just remember it's for only one month :) Your humble servants, Mike & the EDA Council :) * The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at: * http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup * * If you are new to the list and need someone to guide you * please check out the "Adopt A Newbie" page at: * http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/3079/newbies.html * * If you have list related questions, feel free to email me * at Ducksoup@spectra.net * * DuckofPrey@aol.com WhyADuck55 on AOL Instant Messenger ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:51:46 -0400 (EDT) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: book ... jewel, etc On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Austin H. Mandryk wrote: > >Does anyone remember the title, author, publisher of the Canadian book > >that has a chapter about Jewel? > > MINDFIRE - Dialogues In The Other Future > by Alexander Blair-Ewart > > Published by Somerville House, Toronto > ISBN 1-895897-43-2 > > If you do a web search, you can find the publisher and an order form online, > but I don't have the address saved anywhere. Oh! oh! I forgot to mention this. Look in discount book stores for this! I found my copy in one, only $5 (Canadian; which is I gather is about the price of penny candy south of the 49th!*). There was only one copy where I found it though... James. * - This is a bit of a running gag from TO-LF ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- An artist should be fit for the best society and keep out of it. - - John Ruskin ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:30:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Angelseros@aol.com Subject: Lilith Fair II List for FLORIDA Here is the list of EDA's that might be attending the Lilith Fair II in West Palm Beach, Florida:) 1.Angelseros@aol.com-Clearwater near Tampa-Angela(me) 2.SpGrlzRock@aol.com-West Palm Beach-Niina 3. Bobhaught@ij.net-Odessa(North of Tampa-Bob 4. Jenn@bitstorm.net-Detona-Jennifer 5.Devilda23@aol.com-Ft. Myers-Kristi 6. Jewel1@aol.com-Hollywood- Tali 7.JewelEDA21@aol.com-Fort Lauderdale-Sebastien 8.sf3rp@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us-Largo-John If anything is wrong with your name, address, or location e-mail me so I can correct it. Also if I forgot to include anyones name I'm sorry write me and remind me. Angela(the scrumpshly delicious angel) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 15:10:10 -0400 (EDT) From: joe Subject: Alternative to Jewel-news (I wonder if this will get through) I've been playing around with the idea of setting up a listserver for a while, and have two small ones in production right now. But I want to try the big time. :) Since EDA is down to news only for a month, I'm volunteering the temporary use of my server until EDA is back to normal. Here's the subbing info (it's set up and ready to go [I hope]): If you need to subscribe to the list, please send a message to: subscribe@fumblers.ml.org with ONLY the command SUBSCRIBE jewel in the BODY of the message. If you have a sig file and can turn it off, please do. (if not, I can handle it manually if/when it bounces to me) You can get a list of the commands and the options that this listserver accepts by sending a message with ONLY the word HELP in the body of a message to subscribe@fumblers.ml.org Again, please turn off your sig file if possible. Thank you for your interest in this list. Joe ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #827 ***************************