From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #607 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, July 27 1997 Volume 02 : Number 607 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: Bearsville attendees!!! [BluClouds@aol.com] Re: poetry lovers [Jonders ] PLEASE READ: Re: From Alan To the ENTIRE LIST [Jonders ] NJC: Be nice! :) [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: NJC: CDNOW Sale! :) [Gianfranco Covello ] Re: Posters [Zelda6248@aol.com] Guuuuuys....NJC:On being a stupid young newbie person.. [Emilia Garvey ] NJC: Jewel list content- The List [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Re: Posters (where to find Jewel posters) [Mike Connell ] Newbies and problems w/ the list [Wimbley83@aol.com] NJC: Optimisim [CABBYBJS@aol.com] NJC: Dream Concert [Dawlsguy@aol.com] Revised Dream concert [Dawlsguy@aol.com] STL GIVEAWAY..AGAIN... [Tim S ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:14:09 -0400 (EDT) From: BluClouds@aol.com Subject: NJC: Bearsville attendees!!! Hi everyone...sorry for posting this to the list, but I can't find everyone's address that was at Bearsville... I just wanted to know how many of you have doubles of the pictures you took that you could give me!! My camara was broken, so I wasn't able to take it with me! Please let me know so I can give you my address to send them to me...or I can just get them when I see one of you at the LRT shows! Thanks so much :) Ali :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:17:43 -0400 From: Jonders Subject: Re: poetry lovers This is a very good idea Karen!!! A new poetry listserve would/might reduce traffic on this listserve by 5-15%...we do get a lot of poetry postings and subsequent replies. I would volunteer but i don't have the resources to run a listserve. Anyone else???! Peace, Eugene - -- =========================================================================== "For those of you who think there is no point, next time you breathe in fresh air, try not taking it for granted, and thank whatever it is that you believe in, even if it is nothing." - Jonders (an everydayangel recovering from broken wings) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~jonders ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:12:58 -0400 From: Jonders Subject: PLEASE READ: Re: From Alan To the ENTIRE LIST Hello All!!! I posted this "letter" before, a while back...i don't think most people read it...i ask again that you read it and take in consideration...this list is a good thing...amongst all that is wrong in the world...this is something that is very right...don't, DO NOT let it slip away...take the time to read my post... It has always been my observation, in my limited lifespan, that it takes a great deal more energy to exhibit kindness in ernest, to love with depth, and to enjoy uninhibited. This does not, however, surprise me. It is a well known scientific law, of thermodynamics in this case, that the universe moves towards a state of greater disorder, and disarray. What is happening on this list is just a natural tendency. LIFE...however, defies a law of science, true it is a localized portion of the universe, it still defies though! On a more complex level, our spiritual, emotional, mental, selves...operate within the same laws, we require energy to put forth an effort to fight natural tendencies, to sustain our lives. Now follow me on this folks, i will be getting to the jewel content soon. I have to believe that since all of you who are on the list, can afford a computer, either through your parents, or personal finances, can afford to eat quite well, relative to the rest of the world. BINGO! There is the energy we need! :) Now it seems that we are having problems directing this engergy towards constructivism?! :( I propose an analysis of this Mailing List. I think that the large appeal of this list is rooted in its capacity to make us feel ALIVE. By fighting the elements that oppose life, we invigorate our spirits (if you believe in spirit), or our bodies, or however you want to describe the experience. Where is the common link? Jewel of course! This list is, after all, the JEWEL mailing list. She, through her music, tends to inspire, enlighten, invigorate, instill a common goodness in our lives. Now it seems to me, you all lost a little steam, and gave in to entropy. (the law of thermodynamics i was talking about). I have trouble believing that if we were able to exist in the first place...and if any of you get into science will know...we can't maintain an honestly positive and open environment. The solution to the lists problems of late is not to quell the outspokeness, but to open yourselves to the possiblility. Personally, i don't like musicians such as Marilyn Manson. But that is irrelevant. I did not read all those messages that had to do with him, and that is that. Jewel is not the greatest human being ever to exist...although she is up there on the list! ;) If you all truly believe in the goodness of her soul, and the goodness of your own, then the opinions of others will not violate or compromise the general positive usage of energy that this list can provide a home for. Forgive me for the length of the message, but i make it a point to express my thoughts as well and as thoroughly as possible. Feel free to discuss/coment/complain/etc...through the list or personally. Peace, Love, and Happiness (it all takes energy, but we have it folks!) Sincerely, Eugene Fabrikant THANK YOU!!!! - -- =========================================================================== "For those of you who think there is no point, next time you breathe in fresh air, try not taking it for granted, and thank whatever it is that you believe in, even if it is nothing." - Jonders (an everydayangel recovering from broken wings) http://remus.rutgers.edu/~jonders ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 97 17:23:39 UT From: "RUSSELL FOGLEMAN" Subject: RE: Just thinking about stuff You are oh so right about what you said. If people are taught all of their lives to hate black people or Jewish people, etc then of course they're going to grow up with a hatred for them. Racism is a learned mind set and believe it or not it can be un-learned. It takes a lot for people who grew up in a racist environment to over come this. They have to be shown that the people they've been taught to hate are people too. Those people have moms, dads, brothers, and sisters. They have jobs and live and work in the community just like everyone else. Well, I guess that's all I have to say for now. Just please remember that in God's eyes we are all brother and sister, there is no lesser race. Try to love one another. Be sensitive! Learning to Fly, Jennie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:57:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: NJC: Be nice! :) On Sun, 27 Jul 1997 Chwdown@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 97-07-27 07:56:20 EDT, you write: > << Do you get it? We don't care for your innane jokes or prattle. I'm not > going to tell you to leave (like some others would), but at least keep > your rambling confined under the NJC subject Label. We (or most of us) > don't care about your stupid problems. I keep hoping that I'll hear from a > friend and keep getting adolescent jokes.Please go alittle easy. > Jason V >> I know a lot of new people are here, but this response from Jason V to Ronnie is an example of something that's really rude and un-EDA like. Please, let's all try to be a bit more considerate both when posting and when responding. Please everyone think about what you're posting before you post it. Pretty please? :) And for the record, personal problems ARE OK, as long as you put NJC in front it, label it as such, and it's taken directly to email afterwards which it virtually always is. If an angel needs help, we'll try to help. It's what being an EDA is all about. :) I would also like to thank Alan and Mike for their posts. Sometimes the world really is a wonderful place, but each of us has to choose to make it so every day. :) Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:48:07 -0400 From: Gianfranco Covello Subject: Re: NJC: CDNOW Sale! :) At 12:05 AM 26/07/97 -0400, you wrote: >On Fri, 25 Jul 1997, James H. Judd wrote: >> CDnow has Tara Maclean's Silence for only $10.85, and I figured I'd risk it >> without having heard her since she has had excellent reviews here. Just an >> idea for ya if you're going to order some Jewel anyway. James, i have to agree with James ok, yeah get the CD! She is great :-) > >James!, > >Its no risk!! Really! :-) Tara MacLean rocks my world! (Geez Sarah Slean >is getting to me! [Likely only Gianny will get this joke.]) :-) Buy two at >that price. If you like her you can get the postcard and poster from the >Nettwerk site... ...temptation! > Yes.. Sarah Slean ... ok, now another plug for another Canadian artist, Sarah Slean is an incredible Singer/songwriter/pianist who rocks my world :-) She is just getting noticed in the Toronto music scene, she will be having an E.P. tape release show soon, and i can't wait! :-) any Toronto EDA's who want to see her should! i know i'll be there :-) take care - -Gian- (Btw James M... down boy! ;-)) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:23:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Zelda6248@aol.com Subject: Re: Posters In a message dated 7/27/97 5:56:32 AM, mrodrigu@sunmail.chapman.edu (Miguel Rodriguez) wrote: <> me neither!!!! so if anyone know's tell me too! - -kirsten ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:17:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Guuuuuys....NJC:On being a stupid young newbie person.. I really don't know what to say.. I guess I shouldn't be writing this, but I have been amazed at the no-fightingness of this list , for this last month or so.. of course there was the Bearsville thing..i think..but I chose to ignore most of that. anyway..it seems like we're just gearing up for another one..I haven't even seen that many nonsense posts..except from a couple really new ppl.. and I've forgotten them now, because thats exactly what they were ..nonsense.. anyway..i love you guys...NO FIGHT nOOOOOOOOOOOOOo fight. Please? thanks ..and i'll keep the stupid posting..which I try to keep to a minimum..to a minimum..:) No fight...increase the peace..we are a good ol' great big dysfunctional family...and we'd like to stay that way.. Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey A.K.A Gladys The Annoying Interrupting Cow _____________________________________________________________________ "Oh, I am the brainchild, I am the mortar, with a plastic trophy and an eating disorder and a vision as big as a great big wall and they tell me that I'll look forward for the good of us all.." -Dar Williams "The Great Unknown ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:51:00 -0500 (CDT) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: PC:(Poetry Content) well dash-it-all I guess you could call this nonsense.. but nobody, including myself has sent poems for a while..so heres some..please enjoy..NO f-i-g-h-t And then it gets totally dark After brandons daddies truck graces the highway for five seconds. And she doesn't notice. She notices nothing, but her voice is pretty like her and so you are gonna hold on. She doesn't notice that that ball was thrown to her. Or the little godly light that peeped out from the sky without a sun behind it. I wish I had my camera, the sky's more of a kodak moment than I will ever be. _____________________________________ Under the light everything turns green and yellow and mom says I went down to Devonshire not cause I was lost and my mind was a blur and everything was heat and no one cared. but I decided to ignore it. And I'm here, here. Common enough. Yes. And the sky can contort itself to such weird hues and the world is becoming overly polluted once again and I am crying. Because I know the world will not survive as long as I should. But while I'm here and the air is breathable i think I will enjoy it. I will attempt to. Enjoy the time to think. _________________________ Turning dark again another day wasted but thats ok. I'll never be so fast moving again. And maybe if we could midnight swim with all the lights off and our hair, chlorine and all. and our skin will glow in the blue light navy blue from the sky under the water. And you can't comprehend it, but I reccomened it. It is spiritual like everything seems to be to me. __________________________________ There are times when I never want it to be summer when the ice breeze swings my hair and fuzzies it. There are times when I never want the spring fog to let up. When you are Vincent Price and I am but a t-shirt and a pair of jeans. There are times when the summer is all sweaty sticky and my face bright red and dripping, and I never want this constant sunshine to let up. ___________________________ and the now the pe-AYCE dAY resestance....:) I've never seen that color sky it makes me scared I cry. I don't want to die underwater. Plane sounds behind this the awesome purple sky. eleven o'clock am. Confidentally, confident. I look back at how happy I used to be at the mere thought of you and how you scare me now. I said I go to far into the purple sky, why don't you believe me? Why? Why did you say what you meant , snap out of this ya little bitch. I'll never never give a shit about you. I'll work my way down to the core of your exsistence, of the purple skies.. I'll make you notice what you didn't want to see. There they are..five of my best....I guess...its getting to hot in this room...i gotta go..Please WB...tell me how much they suck...:) Love u guys sooooooo much. Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey A.K.A Gladys The Annoying Interrupting Cow _____________________________________________________________________ "Oh, I am the brainchild, I am the mortar, with a plastic trophy and an eating disorder and a vision as big as a great big wall and they tell me that I'll look forward for the good of us all.." -Dar Williams "The Great Unknown ______________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:49:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: NJC: Jewel list content- The List Hi Everyone, I really feel bad for having to post a list of what is considered ok and not ok for the Jewel list, since it's something I feel shouldn't need to be said, but in light of current events it may be a good idea so everyone knows where we stand- Mike, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or I've left something out. I would like to emphasize that I do NOT set up the policy for the Jewel list. The list I'm about to post is stuff that has in the past been considered ok and well-received, so if you stay within these things you should be hunky dory. :) Stuff appropriate for the Jewel list: 1) "Jewel"- Anything Jewel related or subsidiarily related to her songs, music, life, or philosophy. (This is a very broad category) 2) "New Voices"- Promoting new/other artists- BRIEFLY pitching new artists (helping promote CDs or upcoming shows, writeups on new artists, concert reviews, etc) 3) "Calling all Angels"- helping to organize or promote EDA gatherings or events (helping people in real life like the JPK fund-raising, EDA gathering stories, reviews, etc) 4) "Angels helping Angels"- helping people on the list (Angelfood, posting these messages, list management stuff, etc) 5) "Chicken Soup for the Soul"- positive inspirational messages, stories, poetry, etc. to lift our spirits or Jewel/EDA/life inspired poetry, stories, positive comments, etc (Crunch's Swan story, Steph's poems, etc) 5) "SOS"- Asking for help because of personal problems (posting an SOS to the list detailing problem- keeping responses to email only.) 6) "Thank yous"- Saying thank you or giving hugs to the people on the list. 7) "A Rose by any other name..."- Mark all Jewel Content information with "JC" and all Non-Jewel Content Information with "NJC" Other known acronyms used from time to time: EDAC- Every Day Angel Content NEJC- New England Jewel Content CJC- Canadian Jewel Content WCJC- West Coast Jewel Content EJC- European Jewel Content 8) "Netiquette"- Basic netiquette and being nice to people. The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup That's it. I hope this helps and I hope I haven't stepped on too many toes for posting this but I thought it'd be helpful to everyone. :) Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:24:58 -0400 From: Gianfranco Covello Subject: LC: What this list has done for me (Warning, happy post), again... Ok, i wrote this about 2 weeks ago, or less, and i can't believe that i have to send it again... this list is really going downwards... its hard to swallow, and i've been on for only a short while, i really feel bad for the ones who have been here from the beginning, or close to it.... I hope this post will put into perspective the things this list is capable of, instead of using this as a chat room, go to AOL chat and chat, or IRC chat and chat, or ICQ chat and chat, get my drift? :-) ok here goes again... Hi all, in spite of what all that's happening, i thought i'd lighten things up a bit :-) and aren't i the perfect person to do it? ;-) Now this gets kinda long, but read it :-) Ok, when i first joined, which was about 4-5 months ago, i didn't know what to expect, i knew there would be alot of Jewel stuff going on but never in my wildest dreams thought that there would be this many people on this list, (when i joined it was said that there was about 1000+ people on, and now i guess its said that there are about 1400+) So there were alot of Non Jewel posts, which for the most part i enjoyed. The first thing i have this list to thank for is for updating me on the Jewel concerts, i joined the list and found out that Jewel would be playing a concert close to me only about 1 week from when i joined... so i hurried and bought myself a ticket to my first Jewel concert! and it was THE concert.. it was over 2hrs long and she was so into playing for us, it was also the concert where she brought people up on stage to help her play a song! all i can say is wow! :-) and to make things better, i also got to watch the RugBurns!!! they rock!!! :-) So that was the first great thing this list has done for me, then i started chatting on IRC in the #jewel room and met so many amazing people, to name a few that i met back then are Dan Stark, Tim Burke, Mia Vlah, Erica Cavallo, Jon Atkins?(Wells) etc.. and that list is in the hundreds now :-) too many to name :-) after about a couple of months on the list it was announced that the EDA's were having an EDAdventure in NJ at Rob nd Tammy Campells house, and well i left everything and went, all the way rom Toronto, that 10 hr train ride still gives me nightmares :-)>I can't put what i experienced into words.. that experience will stay with me forever :-) I met the likes of Dan "the radio man" Stark, Tim Burke(man) Amelia S Vlah, Tammy (EdaMommy) Campell, Rob (??) Campell ;-) and kids :-) Eric (crashboy) Montas, Tom O, Tom P, Mitch (EDAwannabe) Weiss, hmm, i better not get into this again, i'll write forever :-) i met many wonderfull EDA's :-) So that was the second great thing that this list has done for me :-) So, you say, there's more?? well yeah there is :-) During the first month i was on the list, before i went to the toronto Jewel concert, i emailed a few Toronto area EDA's, and News Only EDA's such as Steve Ito, who told me about an up and coming canadian talent names Tara Maclean, i couldn't go see her show back then, but when she came back around these parts (thanks to Dan's tour updates) i went to go see her, well that show was amazing and i was hooked, as you all know :-) and now i'm on this Tara binge :-) can't get enough of her, since then i've seen and talked to her many times, and been in contact with her manager. Including Tara, this list has opened my eyes to many new artists, and many new friends, which i'm proud to call friends... and i'm looking forward to all the future endeavors that this list has planned :-) such as the upcoming Toronto lilithfairs.. which i can't wait for :-) Oh and how can i forget the G-String Gianny episodes :-) So i guess these are the reasons that i'm not leaving this list in light of what's been going on.. i just hope everyone realizes that this list is here to help and inspire us, whether you believe it or not, and using it to flame and argue is just a waste of space "in my opinion" :-) take care everyone... - -Gian- (one person who doesn't take this list for granted) :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:47:44 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: NJC: I'm Feeling Better, But I Got Something To Say! I'm better yada yada yada. BUT, who are we to say what is "EDA Like" I mean we are all EDAs and we are supposed to love each other for each of our differences, The Great Puddini Loves Puddin, Steph has her poetry, Man-D her surfer chick style, Mike Connel his (forgive the spellin)netiquette and you get the point but what I'm trying to say is what is "EDA like" I mean I know that one thing about the guy going off on the other guy was WAY bad but what exactly is "EDA like" I mean does this mean we all have to be the same to live up to that "EDA like" status? I don't wanna be the same, I don't wanna be like anyone, I wanna be myself! I wanna live up to that "Lora Like" status :D I wanna be me, and I'm sure that's what all you angels wanna be I mean why hold back what you are inside? Good question? I think so! Now, all you beautiful people/angels be your own person! But be nice about it! and if your a mean own person, well, then you just have some problems to work out of your head, but you hurt one of these dear people, these fine dear people who help me through life's everyday problems, from heartache to kidney infections, well then you're gonna have to answer to me, that right me, (cheezy super hero music) SUPER LORA! Ok, I'm restraining myself I love you all! take care! *SMOOCHES*!!!! Love You All Till I Split Open And Melt, Lora "The Angels Who Just Wants To Be Herself" _______________________________________________________ =AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= =A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= =BB=A5=AB=A4=BB =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF Be Here Now _______________________________________________________ =AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB= =A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4=BB=A5=AB=A4=BB=A7=AB=A4= =BB=A5=AB=A4=BB =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=20 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:43:04 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC : Alan, Mike, and Erics (Crashboy) webpage Hello all. I've been reading about the "unsettledness" of the list. Both Mikes and Alans posts were excellent. How old are these two? They sound like old wise men. :) I find a lot of hope in their posts...hope that the list can "come-together" a bit. The other subject...Crashboys page...Just looking at all the pictures, and reading the comments about the get-togethers makes me feel like the list should be, in my eyes anyway. The whole family/good friends thing going on. I don't know. Eric...whatever you do, keep that page going. It's awesome. Mike and Alan...keep the inspiring and hope filled posts coming. Not that nobody else writes inspiring and hope filled posts, but these two caught me right now. Speaking of inspiring...where's Stephanie!? Haven't heard from her lately. Take Care Friends Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:45:23 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC : Fwd:Question of the week,Real world,Friends,etc....] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------EFA0A2E8D846DB65B25702F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's another thing. I start to feel kinda' bad when people are so scared of posting something that they'll get flamed for. I don't believe the people on the list should have to be so nervous about posting. Ok..two posts in one day...PHEW! I'll be on my way now. :) Take Care Rick - --------------EFA0A2E8D846DB65B25702F0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >Return-Path: Received: from jane.smoe.org (majordom@smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by franklin.concentric.net (8.8.6/(97/05/16 5.10)) id MAA15846; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 12:19:22 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Errors-To: Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-jewelq-jane) id LAA13254; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:51:56 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:49:10 -0400 Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-jewelq-jane) id LAA13184; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:48:10 -0400 Received: from f26.hotmail.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4-daemon-mode-relay2) id LAA13175; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 11:47:55 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by f26.hotmail.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) id IAA18508; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:46:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199707271546.IAA18508@f26.hotmail.com> Received: from 206.47.148.150 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:46:45 PDT X-Originating-IP: [206.47.148.150] From: "Marija Picard" To: Jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re:NJc:Question of the week,Real world,Friends,etc.... Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 08:46:45 PDT Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org Precedence: bulk I'm new on this list and have only done a few posts. Only one had nothing to do with Jewel. In it I was asking if anyone had some poetry I could read.I'm sorry if I offened you in anyway. I will try to make sure my messages are appropriate for this list. Thanks for your time Marija 0:) P.S. I don't want it to be shut down. Didn't Jewel even say we all make mistakes?? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------EFA0A2E8D846DB65B25702F0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:56:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Cisalpine@aol.com Subject: JC: Double@CDNOW? At CDnow there is a jewel CD called Double, that is priced at like $1.39 or something close to that. There is no track listing or informaton on the CD, however. I was wondering if any of you have any info. on this single, or import, or whatever it is. Thanks, Craig the unbound Angel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:38:13 -0400 From: agalinanes@microjuris.com (Angel M. Galinanes) Subject: NJC: To all EDA Angels: I think I've lost perspective on the whole EDA esscence. I feel very saddened by the guy's post saying he is unsubscribing because of a lot of anxieties he has while on the list. I don't know if there's anything wrong with the list , but I stopped making new friends here after the influx of post-Jewelstock 96. Well not exactly , but they are very few considering the lots I made in just a few months before...and I live in Puerto Rico. Does the list need to humanize itself? I don't really know. Do we need Brett X-skin to start dissing Jewel so that the other list member consolidate in a general agreement? (brett , sorry , just needed that analogy... I know you've mended your ways... I know you're a swell guy ,eventhough you hate the archangel). I doubt it . I think the list hasn't change it's format , but the number of people have augmented and that means a larger gene pool and smaller tolerance for what people think of "common interests" that ain't that common after all. I really don't know what's wrong... I can't pinpoint...and maybe there isn't anything wrong? MAybe I need to get depressed and post 2 a day to the list , maybe that'll consolidate the list in general discord for me , the pussy boy . well take ... tolerate if you...aurevoir, until then your auto cheap archangel: Rafa ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:55:34 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: NJC: Jewel list content- The List Albert Sze-Wei Wang wrote: a perfect post concerning the list (with one exception) >7) "A Rose by any other name..."- Mark all Jewel Content information with > "JC" and all Non-Jewel Content Information with "NJC" > Other known acronyms used from time to time: > EDAC- Every Day Angel Content > NEJC- New England Jewel Content > CJC- Canadian Jewel Content > WCJC- West Coast Jewel Content > EJC- European Jewel Content Even though it doesn't seem to work as much as desired, in a perfect list-world it would. Jeff Wasilko (list owner) and I discussed this before. He likes the idea of using "NJC" as an acronym. However, we only really need the one, because it'll be way too hard for folks to keep the others straight. The Acronym "JC" isn't even necessary nor desired. (using it is OK though) The *basic* list policy is this really. All posts are to be considered Jewel-content unless otherwise specified by the acronym NJC in the beginning of the subject of an email to the list. (i.e. NJC is the only acronym really needed, either an Email is Jewel Content or it isn't) Yeah, it's not perfect, not all use the NJC term when appropriate, but it IS what we are striving for. However, if you want to use other acronyms, feel free. (although I think CJC, EJC, NEJC and some of the others are pushing it. Before you know it well have 300 acronyms covering all 50 states and most of the free world) The most important thing really is the 'subject' anyway. Make that *clear* as to what your Email to the list is about, and it really should all work. :) Generally, use the acronyn NJC if your post has NO Jewel Content, and have the subject of the email explain the content of your post. Mike **** The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup Patty Griffin Tour Dates & more is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm Ducksoup@spectra.net DuckofPrey@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:03:44 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC : the list and angelfood st_kuo@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I do hope that this list will not be discontinued because I've made so > many > friends and got my angelfood and met EDAs in person who were extremely > nice to > me. HEY YEAH!!!! The list can't possibly end soon. For one, I've got some EDA's I've got to meet (like a few hundred or so), and I haven't gotten ANY angelfood yet. Hint hint people. ;) hehehe Take Care Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:16:22 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: Posters (where to find Jewel posters) Just a followup here. While I mentioned that used CD stores and shows are good places to find Jewel posters and such, there ARE things going on now in the planning stages for Jewel merchandise to be available through the normal channels....regular music/CD stores and the like. (Items being considered are the basic stuff you see for many other artists, perhaps a few unique items too) From what I have been told by Bibi, I would expect stuff to start showing up in the late fall to early 1998. (Things ALWAYS get delayed, so 1998 wouldn't surprise me) On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised though to see things alot sooner either. Mike :) **** The Jewel Mailing List Netiquette & New Member Guide is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup Patty Griffin Tour Dates & more is at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/pattyg/patttour.htm Ducksoup@spectra.net DuckofPrey@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:15:13 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: NJC: Be nice! :) >And for the record, personal problems ARE OK, as long as you put NJC in >front it, label it as such, and it's taken directly to email afterwards >which it virtually always is. If an angel needs help, we'll try to help. >It's what being an EDA is all about. :) Albert's dead on target here. I agree that this list shouldn't be used for whining, private conversations, or commerce. But every once in a while, the family that this list has become (and REMAINS, IMHO :-) is able to reach out to someone who is genuinely and truly in need. I know of three situations in just the last year where a post to the list or a chance comment in IRC has revealed a potentially fatal situation, and has resulted in support and help for the troubled party. In each case, the impact to the list traffic was minimal or nil, and the impact on an angel's life was total and immediate. To me, even one such instance justifies a number of seemingly uninteresting posts. Three in less than a year... well, the cost would have been incalculable. I have increased the number of good friends in my life by almost a hundred people (that's just the ones I've met and talked to on the phone!), and some of them have become regular visitors, and vice versa. I myself post a fair amount of NJC here. I always think long and hard about how many people actually care about the message, and whether it should be discussed publicly at all. One example: 200 of us witnessed the incredible Patty Griffin opening for Jewel at JewelStock. Since that time, many more list members have become acquainted with her work, and there seems to be a strong correlation between Jewel admires and Patty admirers. Until Patty gets her own list (soon, it looks like) I have occasionally posted concert reviews and encouraging news about Patty on the list. The number of positive responses (dozens) and the number of negative responses (none) convinces me that I decided correctly in this case. Another thing: When the list was half its current size, I frequerntly posted updates on my daughter's music career (she was also on the list at the time, and contributed to the EDA cover tape). Since only a few dozen list members have actually met her, and her music is non-Jewel related, I tend to restrict announcements to our IRC friends these days. So there's a sample of guidelines that I use. Think first, maybe wait a few hours if your post might be seen as inflammatory. Keep the air of good friendship and family here, and the list will continue to thrive. - -- | Greg Dunn | Now I know I'm being used. But | | gregdunn@indy.net | that's okay man, 'cause I like | | GregDunn@aol.com | the abuse. | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | The Offspring | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:44:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Wimbley83@aol.com Subject: Newbies and problems w/ the list Hey all. I just wanted to say that it seems to me that newbies get yelled at a lot. Yes, I know, sometimes we need to be told what is and is not appropriate, but just because someone is a newbie that doesn't mean they don't love Jewel just as much as an elder of the list. Not everyone could live right across the street from the Innerchange. Not everyone could live in the same state, or in the same counrty, or even on the same contenet for that matter. A lot of people have lately been saying they wish things could be as they used to be...one small family. We can still be a family, we're just a much much larger family. Personally, I don't think it's fair that some people don't take the time to make newbies feel welcome. This post probably won't change anyone's mind about some newbies, but if you were a newbie wouldn't you like someone to be nice to you? And I'm not saying that a lot of people aren't nice to newbies. I've gotten a lot of mail from EDAs welcoming me to the list and I've made some friends from the list. I guess what I'm trying to say is newbies are still EDAs, too. Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:04:28 -0400 (EDT) From: CABBYBJS@aol.com Subject: NJC: Optimisim To Everyday Angels- Hello everyone, its weird but when I first joined this list in June of this year-so I'm pretty new- one of my first thoughts was how much family like this list seemed, I thought I had joined a cult! So if I could feel it then, it must have been something really special when this list first started. Maybe we haven't lost the closeness- maybe its just hidden. There are a lot of people on this list, a lot of wonderful people who are sharing a common interest, and a love for music, Jewel, poetry, friends and closeness- only connected by their computers! You know how many wonderful friendships I have made from this list? If that is still possible from when the list was going down I think the list is still a success. Maybe the real answer to our problems, is just to open up more, think more optimistically, and become more organized. The love is there- it just needs to be revived. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:08:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Dawlsguy@aol.com Subject: NJC: Dream Concert My dream concert would be in this order W ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:11:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dawlsguy@aol.com Subject: Revised Dream concert My dream concert would be in this order Fiona Apple Less than jake Puffdaddy rEEL bIG fISH Match Box 20 Sublime 311 No Doubt and for the closer Jewel starting with POY and Ending with a tearjerking YWMFM Nick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 13:05:53 -0700 From: Tim S Subject: STL GIVEAWAY..AGAIN... Hi, I offered this many months back. I am hoping I can do this again to perhaps rekindle some of the spirit of this list. It is nothing more then one person who lives music offering to help out some other people who should love music also. If you missed it the first time, are seeing it for the first time, or just want another copy let me know. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi, Just wanted to offer something to the newer members and people who dont have a copy of Save The Linoleum. I will make a copy of it on to a cassete tape for you. All it will take is a blank 90 minute tape from you. I will also include something special from a live Jewel show on the other side. Now I know your saying.."ah I want the real CD" and "it wont sound as good". Now first off, I cant do anything about helping you get a copy the are few and far between. However, if you are seriuos about Jewel and her music you will want to get the music and listen to it. It shouldnt matter if it's a copy or not. Right now if you dont have it all then your listening to nothing. Secondly on the sound quality issue, quite frankly I use very very good equipment that on 95% of the stereo system EDA's listen to, they would hear no difference between the tape copy and the origional. I could get technical with the equipment if someone wishes so just let me know. So if you want to get a copy please send me an e-mail personally and put COPY OF STL in the sunject line. I will respond to you all individually and let you know the process to getting one. Just for your info, my motivation for this is that I am tired of all this childish bickering on the "auction" situation. As a long time list member I find all this bickering unnecessary and a waste of e-mail. You should keep it personal and send it to the person you are trying to express your opinion to, not the whole list. After all this list is about Jewel and her music. Her love and optimism of life. WE often have to remind ourselves of this. Sense this list is about her music, I want to give a little of that music to as many people who want to listen to it. So again drop me a line if you want a copy. **Life is best lived without a SCRIPT-ME **"Anything Goes"-Cole Porter **Life could be 100% more fun, productive, less stressing, meaningful if we all THOUGHT about what we said BEFORE we said it-ME ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #607 ***************************