From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #589 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, July 22 1997 Volume 02 : Number 589 Today's Subjects: ----------------- good quotes [red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel)] Bearsville [VCavallo@aol.com] Re: MTV Real World [red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel)] Re: Simply beautiful . . . [red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel)] Real World LAST POST ON THIS [Grrly1@aol.com] SJC: Elka: MTV Real World [Ronda Lou Morgan ] Jewel Theme ["Karen Boysen" ] Jewel pix on The WEB magazine [VESCOGNI ] another of my fav Jewel lines [Amy Barker ] UPDATE: Crash Boy's EDA Page - RockFest '97!!!!! [Crash Boy ] gian is the best [Shane ] Re: Montana on real World and lack of religion [Amy Barker ] Thanx!!! [id@juno.com] Jewel MOO now on the WEB [Felix Ng ] re:sagatory rape [Cisalpine@aol.com] About Me(If you all want to know)If not don't read it [DmBear978@aol.com] FG video airplay? ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] re:sagatory rape ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Re: FG video airplay? [Piper1013@aol.com] Re: FG video airplay? (fwd) ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Re: My favorite Jewel line. Whats Yours? ["Charlie Hinz" ] NJC: Re: sagatory rape [Joe ] Re: Simply beautiful . . . [g ] DOH! ["Tan N. Tran" ] Bearsville97/EDA Lovin' Part F [SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU] jewel back in coffeehouses? [ForvrLaust@aol.com] sagatory rape??? [ForvrLaust@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 21:47:01 -0700 From: red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel) Subject: good quotes This ones from Dr. Katz, a TV show on Comedy Central. I am not sure that it is exactly right, cuz I haven't seen the show in a while. "Come on Jesus, turn this leaf into pot" Nick the blurred angel @--/----- Red_Ranger@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: VCavallo@aol.com Subject: Bearsville We did stuff. Pud ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:41:04 -0700 From: red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel) Subject: Re: MTV Real World On Mon, 21 Jul 1997 13:24:59 -0700 Joe writes: >spirited as well....The religious girls are kinda bitchy, with the >exception of Elka, who is really cute, and nice too...Montana, or Yeah, Elka is beautifull... *sigh* maybe I will see her when I go to see Jewel in boston. That would be nice. Jewel and Elka..... *double sigh* Nick the blurred angel @--/----- Red_Ranger@juno.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:41:34 -0700 From: red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel) Subject: Re: Simply beautiful . . . On Mon, 21 Jul 97 10:25:46 PDT dmoreno@thrasher.calstatela.edu (Daniel Moreno) writes: > >> I am greatful for the time I got to spend with her... i know this is more >>than most people get, and I do not mean to be whiny about wanting more... but >>when you meet perfection, when you meet someone your heart and soul seem so >>in tune with... it just hurts a lot to never have that again >> >> John.... >> forever eda > > >Reading this post . . . first I thought . . . damn soo long!! . . . but I >read it and it turned out to be the most beautiful heart wrenching thing I >ever read . . . my eyes are still misty writing this . . . I've never met >Jewel . . . probably never will . . . but that story remeinded me of a >similar experience that I will not bore you guys with . . . but I always >think bak to that day and wonder what could have been . . . > >Danny >P.S. you guys are really tearing this angel apart . . . > I think that if you really want to meet Jewel. You will, cuz you will put so much energy into meeting Jewel you will get it eventually. Becides, she can't be THIS popular forever, right? I can see her starting to play in coffie houses again, in like... um maybe 3 years.... assuming her next album isn't accepted as good as POY was. After all.. hands DO manifest thought!! Nick the blurred angel @--/----- Red_Ranger@juno.com "If you have any questions.. um.. don't ask me. Cuz I got no fucking idea what I am doing" -Ani Difranco- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Grrly1@aol.com Subject: Real World LAST POST ON THIS Okay, i hate to add to this dumb thread but all of the people asking "Which one is she" is bothering me. heres a list of the people on teh new season of real world, in boston. Kameelah-The black girl. the one who "does not put alcohol in her body" Montana- The red headed anti-religious cool feminist chick. Genesis-The blond lesbian chick with a REALLY cool name. Elka-The Innocent daddys girl of the group (theres on in every season) I'm pretty sure this is the one that theyre gonna corrupt. hehe. Shaun, or sean.- dont know how he spells it. he is the lumberjack dude with a cool accent. Syrus-The black smooth guy, he'll most likley get kicked out, if i can tell from the coming attractions his roomates dont appreaciate all teh girls he brings home. Jason- The poet, free spirit, sometimes moody guy. I saw in the coming attractions that he sorta hooks up with Genesis (yeah, i know) Thirza. there hope this helps. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:25:41 -0700 From: Ronda Lou Morgan Subject: SJC: Elka: MTV Real World Out of curiousity, I was wondering if anyone thinks that Elka has some features that resemble Jewel. At times when I was watching it, I thought she kindof looked like Jewel, in the face. Kim ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 22:58:55 PDT From: "Karen Boysen" Subject: Jewel Theme I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the Jewel Theme for Win 95 is, I have seen it on numerous web pages. Thanks karen ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:53:35 -0500 From: VESCOGNI Subject: Jewel pix on The WEB magazine Just thought I would let everyone know that jewel was on the July issue of The Web Magazine. On page 28-29 they mention jewel talking about the eda's....some of the things she said were: "I have an incredible fan base.... The radio stations wouln't play me, but my fans spread the word about me so mch, and through the internet...they got radio to play it, and I'm really thankful" "I tlk to the Every Day Angels (EDA) a lot." "They show up at my shows with little signs and blue guitars with little EDAs paintedon them..." Just thought I would rub it in to all those people that say Jewel Doesn't look at us EDA's:) Love you all, Brent ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 00:58:44 -0500 From: Amy Barker Subject: another of my fav Jewel lines > "It doesn't take a talent to be mean/Your words can crush things that are unseen" from I'm sensetive I wish more people would learn this I am over weight due to medical reasons and no one knows how bad words hurt everyone says well don't pay attetion to them but it is not that easy Amy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:46:06 -0400 From: Crash Boy Subject: UPDATE: Crash Boy's EDA Page - RockFest '97!!!!! hi guys! what's up? after much trouble connecting to my server, i've finally been able to upload the rockfest '97 page. i had hoped to put it up before going to bearsville, but oh well. every time i put a new page up, i try something different. well, this time some people might be a tad upset at me, cause i left all the pics at 100% in size so you can see all the pics clearly with detail, cause this was so much fun, i wanted everyone to see it. so, it's gonna take some time to load these pages up. with a 28.8, the average is about 2.5 minutes per page, assuming the server's okay. and there are 23 pages, so this *will* take a while to peruse. sorry, if it's a pain in the butt for people. if i get enough flak for it, i'll reduce the size of the images. well, take care. i hope you all like it. 'bye! eric :) - -- Crash Boy's EDA Page --- http://thespis.com/crashboy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:02:07 -0400 From: David McCluskey <6djm@qlink.queensu.ca> Subject: Re: HEY!!!!!! Tape bag Anyone that wants to sign up for the Tape Bag is welcomed to at 'The Tape Bag Home Page' at http://qlink.queensu.ca/~6djm/tapebag/ . If you have trouble signing up from there (which is what I assume happened to Lee), EMAIL ME (Dave) at 6djm@qlink.queensu.ca with your name and email address. I will be putting out a 'last call' tomorrow with a reminder of what The Tape Bag is and why you (yes, you) should have signed up by now! There are over 75 EDAs signed up with people ranging from list vets to brand-new-first-week EDAs. Everyone on this list falls somewhere in that range, so there's no reason not to sign up. - -Dave McCluskey >I want to know how to get into the tape bag......because for some reason I >can not send my message to the tape bag list. > >HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >The Guardian Angel' >Lee ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 16:08:18 +1000 From: Shane Subject: gian is the best This letter is about the most wonderful angel. His name is gian. He helped me a lot with the irc and i will always be grate ful. Every body give him a clap. from shane or on irc im pse ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:07:57 -0500 From: Amy Barker Subject: Re: Montana on real World and lack of religion I have not seen the show but my fealings on religion are that religion church beliefs feelings practices and even a higher power not matter what he is called are not the same but people get them confussed I was at a waylon jennings concert with my mom and best friend and the book I bought has a good poam on the topic if you would like to read it e-mail me I am not going to type it and post it if no one wants to read it Amy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 1997 22:41:36 -0300 From: patrik@octonline.com Subject: Jewel .ra If nobody's mentioned it yet there's an awesome page : http://members.aol.com/jewelpage/index.htm It's got OVER 40 realaudios of her songs and no POY stuff. Pat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:28:03 -0700 From: millerk@cport.com (Karen Miller) Subject: poetry that i wrote death so some it is beautiful...... to others they dred it happening to = them. but me i welcome it at any time because i know that i will meet = some pretty cool people up there. death is beautiful to me it has aaway = of magic in it the way witches have magic in them i just thought of it please tell me what you think holly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:32:08 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: NJC:Things to learn from a dog THINGS WE CAN LEARN FROM A DOG... Never pass up the opportunity to go for a joyride. Allow the experience of fresh air and the wind in your face to be pure ecstasy. When loved ones come home, always run to greet them. When it's in your best interest, practice obedience. Let others know when they've invaded your territory. Take naps and stretch before rising. Run, romp and play daily. Eat with gusto and enthusiasm. Be loyal. Never pretend to be something you're not. If what you want lies buried, dig until you find it. When someone is having a bad day, be silent, sit close by and nuzzle them gently. Thrive on attention and let people touch you. Avoid biting when a simple growl will do. On hot days, drink lots of water and lay under a shady tree. When you're happy, dance around and wag your entire body. No matter how often you're scolded, don't buy into the guilt thing and pout...run right back and make friends. Delight in the simple joy of a long walk. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 03:03:48 -0400 (EDT) From: RlngRockJE@aol.com Subject: Ride to Toronto Lillith Fair offered here! =) Howdy! It looks like I am going to be driving from San Diego to Toronto for the Lillith Fair/Canadian camping trip in August! If anyone is along the way and wants a ride, please let me know! I need to get some specific time frames so I can plan this trip out around my work schedule (Tegan?). Hope to hear from some angels needing rides soon! JE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:58:01 -0500 From: dreeland@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: A really cool Jewel dream hi guys... i just had the coolest jewel dream!!! well, most of it was insignifigant but in my dream i kissed jewel! oh lord! it was unbelievable! anyway...enough ramblings...maybe if i go back to sleep it will start up again! dan r. the midnite angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 03:03:36 -0500 (CDT) From: James Judd Subject: NJC: Relistening to Jewel Hey, I hadn't listened to any Jewel stuff for a while and Michael Garnett reminded me of how much some of her music meant to me. So I just wanted to remind those of you who haven't heard some old tape you have for a while to get it out and appreciate Jewel all over again. Late night hugs, James, who is listening to Jessica again for the first time in months now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 04:18:33 EDT From: id@juno.com Subject: Thanx!!! Thanx Everyone for the quick and pleasant replies and sorry about the double post.... L8R ID P.S. You can call me the Techna-Color Angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 01:13:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Felix Ng Subject: Jewel MOO now on the WEB I received a lot of interest in Jewel MOO after announcing Jewel MOO few weeks ago, but one very common question is "how do I get on??" Well over the weekend, I've made it much easier to connect. All you need now is a web brower with JAVA. Goto: http://jewel.ml.org/jewel.html Once connected, you will see "Jewel MOO". Type "connect guest" if you want to look around or Type "create " to create a character on the MOO. For those who are wondering what the difference between a MOO and IRC is, a MOO adds another dimension - virtual reality. In IRC, you're in a chat room and all you do is chat. In a MOO, you can "move" around and interact with others in a virtual environment. The Deborah Gibson MOO has fans connected around the world 24hrs/day. I hope Jewel MOO will get busy enough so that you can connect and talk about Jewel or whatever anytime of day. I still need help building the MOO. If anyone wants to help, let me know! Any questions, e-mail me. See you on there. Felix fng@jewel.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:02:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Cisalpine@aol.com Subject: re:sagatory rape I think you are referring to statutory rape, the willing or unwilling act of sex between someone over the age of 18 and someone under the age of 18. I personally think it is great, and have been the "victim" of it 4 times now. Of course, I'm not the one taking thee risk since only the person over 18 can actually get in trouble for it. Has to be one of the dumbest laws they've got. I see the point of it, but it needs to be changed a little. I mean, my girlfriend could be 1 month older than me, and she could turn 18, and we would not be able to have sex for a month, even though we may have been doing it for 3 years. Craig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: DmBear978@aol.com Subject: About Me(If you all want to know)If not don't read it Hi again Everybody, Warning:its almost 2:00 AM - don't really know why Im still up & some of my sentecing/wording will be screwed up -Ok here goes... Ive been catching up from Mon. stuff(posts) and I just wanta put in my 2 cents. Meetting Jewel -- Hey thats great that you got to meet her! :) Even if it was a bitter-seet(ops!) sweet meeting. Sleep is taking over...must act quickly.... ok, I still want to meet her - maybe even(BIG IF) get to play guitar w/ her someday. I just keep saying someday to keep my hopes up Im a musician too -- yes, I was in Marching Band in HS for 4 years(proud of it!)(got to go to Hawaii for a week & got a Drum Major trophyon my head rest) - --If you want to know more about all that...email me sometime :) And I been playing guitar for about 3 years now...Im working on my own sound with a not-quite-complete band(actally, we're still in the concept stage-Argh!-) Im an acoustic/electric player. Kinda like Dave Matthews, I guess :) All those Bearsville posts -- Your all making me feel unhappy, cause I came a few months late to know about JewelStock & I couldn't make the reunion either I know that there are some 1300 EDAs reading this or maybe just 13. Hmm... well, I wanta say to the newbies: a BIG HI TO YOU ALL WHEREVER YOU ALL ARE. I got to meet a few EDAs at Irvine Meadows(J.E.,Stingin,Farr) that was very cool. Hi Guys :) Well, Im sleepy & my brain is slowing down very...quickly. I went to the Orange County Fair today(So. CA) lots a fun. Jars of Clay did a good concert -It was virtually free!($5 for admission to the fair) Kinda, lay off the religion stuff too. Im a mucho big Pres. Christian(FYI, not to be flamed please) I don't really want a big fight between everybody considering there was way too much hostility last week w/...forget it. Im going to bed Never-Neverland, here I come! Later 'Quiet Warrior' Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: FG video airplay? Is "Foolish Games" getting any play on MTV at all? I've watched the channel all night for about a week now (I'm on an all-night job, and I can watch TV), and haven't seen it once. Yet, I've seen some videos up to six times (like Oasis' new one). What's the deal? I thought someone mentioned the video was #3 on the MTV countdown this last week, but I could be mistaken. BTW, I just received the Internet Music Chart, and FG moved from it highest debut position last week of #31 to #27. Not as big a jump as I would have hoped... Still, the only place I've heard it on the radio is a station in Illinois that was playing it quite a bit while I was there for a weekend about 2 weeks ago. Then again, I don't listen to the radio all that much here, but I would still expect more... Thank you for hearing me. -- Mark - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "During sex, my girlfriend always wants to talk to me. Why, just the other day she called me from the hotel." -- Rodney Dangerfield ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 05:57:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: re:sagatory rape > I think you are referring to statutory rape, the willing or unwilling act of > sex between someone over the age of 18 and someone under the age of 18. I I've always heard it was statutory rape even if both people were under 18. Statutory rape can then be charged to whoever the police want to charge. At least this is how it is on Law & Order. :) It can be a dumb law, but I think society in general does not abuse it too much. It's there to protect children who cannot make decisions for themselves; it's not meant for someone like Craig. Of course, every now and then you'll get some parent who wants to press charges for their 17-year old consenting daughter, but I think it's basically to protect the 14 year olds from the 25 year olds. I don't know how it could be made a better law, because then it gets into that sticky area of how old you should be when you can have sex. The answer is, of course, totally individual, based on people's own personal beliefs... - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "During sex, my girlfriend always wants to talk to me. Why, just the other day she called me from the hotel." -- Rodney Dangerfield ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:23:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Piper1013@aol.com Subject: Re: FG video airplay? In a message dated 97-07-22 06:13:27 EDT, miazgama@pilot.msu.edu (Mark Anthony Miazga) writes: << Is "Foolish Games" getting any play on MTV at all? I've watched the channel all night for about a week now (I'm on an all-night job, and I can watch TV), and haven't seen it once. Yet, I've seen some videos up to six times (like Oasis' new one). What's the deal? I thought someone mentioned the video was #3 on the MTV countdown this last week, but I could be mistaken. >> I''ve seen it on MTV several times, and that's pretty good for not hardly watching MTV... In fact, I've seen it MORE on MTV than on Vh-1 which is unusual for a Jewel video... and no, it wasn't #3 on the MTV countdown, but it was featured on the Top 10 Breakdown show as a new & up-n-coming video, which foreshadows high hopes for how it might do on the countdown... :) Debuting at #3 would be quite the remarkable task for MTV, too remarkable even. - --Lisa P.S. they play FG ALOT on the radio here in Vegas... My boyfriend listens to that station all day at work and he says he always hears it about 5-6 times a day... not quite as much as YWMFM and WWSYS though, not yet anyway... course this same station will play Jewel songs as close to 25 minutes apart from each other...must be a small playlist. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 06:38:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: Re: FG video airplay? (fwd) > I''ve seen it on MTV several times, and that's pretty good for not hardly > watching MTV... In fact, I've seen it MORE on MTV than on Vh-1 which is > unusual for a Jewel video... and no, it wasn't #3 on the MTV countdown, but > it was featured on the Top 10 Breakdown show as a new & up-n-coming video, > which foreshadows high hopes for how it might do on the countdown... :) Just saw it for the first time at 6:30 am on Tuesday morning. The video wasn't much. Jewel looked amazingly like Robin Wright (as in her photo in "rolling stone"), and looked beautiful. I can think of 10 better video ideas than this one, but this was still serviceable. Fortunately, Jewel didn't feel the need to use her sexuality as in YWMFM video (you're not madonna, jewel). I liked that. The body double shots were neat. The kimono girls were distracting. The makeup seemed to fit the video well. Overall, I'd give the video a B, and the song a B+. It would have done so much better as a single (and hold so much more power) if she put more power in the lines "Someone who gave a damn/somebody more like myself". In the Paradise version (the best I've ever heard), she uses this for sheer emotional power. In the single and video, it's weak defeat. Oh well. Just my $0.02. - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA "During sex, my girlfriend always wants to talk to me. Why, just the other day she called me from the hotel." -- Rodney Dangerfield ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 07:12:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Daoust Subject: Jewel in Boston Hi EDA's, I just learned i'm going to be in Boston on august 29th (i'm from Montreal, Canada) and i know that Jewel is going to be at the Harbor Lights and i would be very interested in seeing that show since it would be my first Jewel show where she would be headlining. The problem is i don't know how to go about getting a ticket for this show or even if there are some left. I'm hoping you EDA's could help me with that problem. Thanks in advance. By the way i would appreciate it if you could reply to me and not the list since i have problems keeping up with my reading of the digests!!! :-) Thank you... ___________________________________________________________________________ To live is not enough, learn to enjoy living! Ricky ericd@total.net }~~~~~~~~~{ Maybe if we are surrounded by beauty/Someday we will become what we see... --%-<@ Jewel Kilcher @>-%-- =20 =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF= =AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF=AF ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 03:11:33 -0700 From: "Charlie Hinz" Subject: Re: My favorite Jewel line. Whats Yours? "Where does love go if it can't find a home... one moment here then gone with no forwarding address... love no longer a house or residence if flesh..." -Emily Made me cry the first time I heard it... not only the words but just the sheer beauty of her voice deep and wavering... God, makes me misty eye'd just to think about it right now... I often give out love and think that it's being received but then find out that it was never received at all or that it has been rejected... Plus, I absolutly love that monolouge part towards the middle of Under The Water (1:59 into the song to be exact... :P)... I always lip synce it and just love it! :) Really gets me going. :) Oh, and the way she says "he's gonna rock my world" in Rocker Girl... love it love it love it! Well, anyway, those are my favorite Jewel lines... Charlie P.S. Lip synching to Jewel's songs isn't weird, is it? Charlie P.S. God I love her and her music... but I guess ya'll do too, huh? :P - ---------- > From: Jane107@aol.com > To: Jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: My favorite Jewel line. Whats Yours? > Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 8:16 AM > > And when you cry...I'll be right there baby telling you, you were never > nothin' less than beautiful (Angel Standing By) > > Where are my angels? Where's my golden one? Where's my hope now that my > heroes have gone? Some are being beaten, some are being born, and some can't > tell the difference anymore. (AMEN) > > All those blue skies where your words were my...freedom (Don't) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 02:42:15 -0700 From: "Charlie Hinz" Subject: Re: Simply beautiful . . . I haven't much to say but, it tears me apart too. I've always dreamed of meeting her and for some reason more so lately... I dunno... guess thats it... not really good w/ words, I'll just go back into my pain and longing... Charlie P.S. The new Angel. :) - ---------- > From: Daniel Moreno > To: jewel@smoe.org; ForvrLaust@aol.com > Subject: Simply beautiful . . . > Date: Monday, July 21, 1997 10:25 AM > > > > I am greatful for the time I got to spend with her... i know this is more > >than most people get, and I do not mean to be whiny about wanting more... but > >when you meet perfection, when you meet someone your heart and soul seem so > >in tune with... it just hurts a lot to never have that again > > > > John.... > > forever eda > > > Reading this post . . . first I thought . . . damn soo long!! . . . but I > read it and it turned out to be the most beautiful heart wrenching thing I > ever read . . . my eyes are still misty writing this . . . I've never met > Jewel . . . probably never will . . . but that story remeinded me of a > similar experience that I will not bore you guys with . . . but I always > think bak to that day and wonder what could have been . . . > > Danny > P.S. you guys are really tearing this angel apart . . . ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:06:57 -0700 From: Joe Subject: NJC: Re: sagatory rape What I believe you mean is statutory rape...In any circumstance...Statutory rape is when the act of consentaul sex is commited among a minor (person usually under 18 years of age) and an adult (usually any person over the age of 18). The problem with statutory rape, and the reason that it is illegal for an 18 year old to have sexual intercourse with a 16 year old is that a 16 year old is not yet legally responsible for his or her sexual actions. In the United States, the age of 18 is not just an age; it is the bearing of responsibility, and a new life. At 18, you are responsable for you. Nobody else can control you, nobody else can manage your finances (unless deemed by the court), etc. Another reason that statutory rape is illegal is the fact that a 30 year old really shouldn't be having intercourse with a 15 year old. The reason being mainly that at 15 years of age, both the male and female populations are very vunerable. It is also known that teenage pregnancy is very dangerous for both the mother and the child. In your teenage years, most people cannot afford to take care of a small child. Anyhow....I would urge any person out there to not be involved in this type of relationship, as it is very dangerous, both physically, mentally, and legally......But...I must also remind you that if you do have this type of relationship, be prepared to go to prison, be prepared to have your boyfriend or girlfriend go to prison, and be prepared for all of the pain of childbirth, and be prepared for the raising up of a possibly deformed or mentally disabled child, be prepared to spend the next 20 years of your life rasing this child, be prepared to spend almost every dime you make for the next 30 years on your child, be prepared to face your lover leaving, because most relationships like this don't work out, be prepared!!! Joe >how do all of you feel about sagatory rape?? > >if you don't know what it is ignore this massage > >confusedd ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:07:30 -0400 From: g Subject: Re: Simply beautiful . . . Earth to everyone. *Spoken gently* Guys, come on. Do you know how many people think their "soul is in tune" with Jewel's? I understand people appreciating her great music, AND finding her attractive, but what's with all the idolatry? She's only human, just like the rest of us. It's cool to fantasize about meeting her, but don't let it consume you. And don't let get so focused on her that your eyes and most importantly your heart and soul are closed off to everyone else. You might just miss the opportunity to meet your real soul mate. G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:42:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Tan N. Tran" Subject: DOH! I see that my message totally screwed up.....oh well... Tan N. Tran _____________________________________________________________________________ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ | |_| |_ | |_| | | | |_| | | | | | | | | |_| |_ |_| |_ | | | |_ | | \ |_| | | | | _| |_| |_| | | | | |_ | \ |_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 08:45:39 -0500 (EST) From: SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Subject: Bearsville97/EDA Lovin' Part F Like the subject says this was definitely a weekend of EDA Lovin'...on all levels, one could say. Campfire was winding down at some time in the morning, and people were slowly making their way to their tents (or other people's tents...)and some people were still hanging around the campfire. I was going to go stargazing with Bill, Albert, Super Ted, and Lauren, but a few steps away from the campfire I realized that I was exhausted, tanked, and not feeling all that wonderful. So, I had to back out of one of my all time favourite things...spending hours with friends just staring at the wondrous and miraculous sky. I make my way over to my tent, and disgruntled was I that I only had the super light summer weight comforter from my bed in my apartment and my pillow and no sleepingbag whatsoever in that 45 degree Catskill night. So I did what I normally do when I am either sick or in need of getting warm: curled up into a ball. It's funny, I had told Jon Reade that I was very capable of scrunching up into an itty bitty compact ball, and he didn't believe me. But I got into my ball. Then Jon came into the tent asking if I was OK. Then Crunch and Ali came into the tent and got themselves ready for sleepy time. And then our guests for the evening, Steve Messina and Kim, came into the loveshack (ahh that word reminds me of driving UP to Bearsville when Jon Laura Tonn and I heard "Loveshack" on the radio and I was boogying and grooving to the music). Jon asked where I was, as it was dark out and he did not see my brightly colored flower-y bedspread. Then he noticed a little ball with hair sticking out of it in the corner of the tent and he was AMAZED that I could actually ball up like that. He called me a weepul or whatever those bugs are called. And then our beloved Harris came into the tent. But of course he only came in after making his animal noises and after me telling him to chill with his beastiality fascination (I *knew* there was something weird about this guy when he pulled out those gaudily pink flamingoes for his tent...JK, Dennis, you know I love you so so so so so so so much). So Dennis comes into the tent and harrasses me, but all in good fun. He holds an impromptu free poetry clinic, and the theme of the night is "Stephanie, your poetry is so beautiful, but there is one big problem...it does not rhyme. Now there are some people who can't give a rat's ass about good poetry and they think that poetry has to rhyme. So I am not going to bed until we teach you how to rhyme." It was interesting. A completely tanked, exhausted, and throat-hurting Stephanie trying to think in rhyme off the top of her head when she normally has such magnanimous problems with the concept of rhyming poetry...hrmm...but I rhymed something absolutely absurd for Harris. I still remember not what words I spake at that moment. Oh well. Harris decided he will stop harrassing us and returns to the Harris Camping Condo. Well, we THOUGHT he was going to stop harrassment. But then he starts up...again...with the sheep noises. Crunch, what a bastard (of course 'bastard' pronounced in your best New England accent...hee hee hee) Harris, what a baa---aaaaa--aaaaaaastard ('bastard' sheep style...) Stephanie begins coughing. TomO and Rach claim they could hear me all the way down the little hill. HRMM. All I know is that Jon gives me cognac. Damn is that stuff disgusting! At least it wiped me out for a while and got me to stop coughing even tho my throar hurt like a mother. And I freeze freeze freeze all night. And I wake up disgustingly early. And I find Puddie mah lub waking up also that early, and we go in search of toilet paper for the bathroom. We find none and end up using napkins. Weird...the things you will do when in the woods...at times like that I envy guys who can just find a bush... I sit outside freezing my butt off. And Rich comes out of his tent. Surprisingly he informed us that he was able to sleep DESPITE Proven's snoring! AND the tent was warm. The word warm went off like alarms inside my head. I instantly ran into Rich's tent and usurped his sleepingbag. Oh man, he was not kidding when he said it was warm! Lemme tell you all right now...Tom Proven generates INCREDIBLE body heat, and that tent just got nice and toasty!!!!! I think I had the best 2 hours of sleep I had had in a while (which quickly got ousted by the sleep I had on Sunday night...heh...in my own bed...after a long hot shower...ahh...) Finally I wake up. We get dressed. We chill. We start packing up. Sunday has arrived. We wait forever for Mike Connell and Akira, both of whom I love dearly dearly dearly, to show up. And eventually they do...late...well, it makes sense, with Mike being aGreek and all...to make a sweeping generalization, when Greek peopel say to be somewhere at 12:00 they REALLY mean "ahh be there around 2 or so"...but it wasn't THAT bad. We leave the campsite and go for food at the diner diner diner. We EDAs took over the whole damn place, it was so tiny. And I had to say goodbye to everyone. I was crying. I always cry. At everything. I love everybody so much. I said it endless times all weekend. I had to say it again. I still have to say it again. I love you. I went around hugging everyone but was VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY sad that I did not get to really say goodbye to Harris. He was scrunched all the way inside his booth and it woulda been a pain to get himeout to hug me goodbye. I know I will see him again. I better see him again! It was hard for me to say goodbye to everyone. Very hard. Especially Lauren Bond, Laura Marion, Kelly Magee, Linda, CJ, Bill B, and Akira and Steve. *sigh* I was crying. I reminded Akira I needed my sweatshirt back (he borrowed it. the only eprson ever who has borrowed any item of clothing from me...) and we went out to Connell's car and he got it. And then of course came another hug. And more crying. I MISS YOU AKIRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Jon and I drove home. We were both friggin half asleep. And I was sad. And my stomach was hurting BIG time. Part hangover, part that nasty burger I had a total of 2 bites of at the diner diner diner. So Jon stopped somewhere for me. I LOVE YOU JON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And now I must declare my undying love for Jon Reade. He is such a sweetheart, and really one of the coolest, most wonderful peoples I know. (and he lives 4 blocks from me to boot...heh...jon should you feel worried that i know where you live? lol...) Jon makes me laugh so much...he is one of the only people if not the only person who can always make me laugh, even if i am in the shittiest or saddest mood. and that was Bearsville... ...more to come in Part G. I LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:03:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ForvrLaust@aol.com Subject: jewel back in coffeehouses? This would be an amazing feat... but one I do not see happening. Even if her new album was not received as well as POY, which I know it will be that and more, her status in the order of things would continue to bring her along for quite some time. I think it doesn't matter what she puts out anymore. now that she's known, I honestly believe a large protion of her fans would be happy just seeing her live. Think about this... you go see a normal band, like Metallica, Tori Amos, Alice In Chains (to name a few) or some other band... any band that's been around for awhile... you listen to them play songs that they've released, maybe some songs from the upcoming album, and maybe a few covers... but with Jewel... you have her one Major debut... then a few otheCDs that somehow made it to market... singles and promos and bootlegs... but she has dozens, possibly hundreds of songs you get to hear a few times... and you know they will never ALL make it to CD (except on a bootleg). So even if Jewel's album flopped (which we all know it won't) I'm sure she could draw a large enough crowd to never play a coffeehouse again. BUT... if she DOES... I'll be there a few days before... cuz that place would be MOBBED John forever eda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 09:08:26 -0400 (EDT) From: ForvrLaust@aol.com Subject: sagatory rape??? do you mean Statutory rape? the one where someone of legal age is with someone of under age??? I am not sure of how I feela bout it, because it is too broad a definition. When I was 18, if I brought my friend Tina, who was like 15, to Philadelphia, I could have been arrested for Stat Rape for taking her over state lines. I do not really agree with that part of it... as far as kids in their teens dating adults in their 20's and older... I'm not sure how i feel about that. I guess I am against it for the most part, but sometimes there really are special cases John forever eda ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #589 ***************************