From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #557 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Monday, July 14 1997 Volume 02 : Number 557 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: hi again [JewldEagle@aol.com] Re: Disneyfest [JewldEagle@aol.com] Re: Tape Bag [JonBoy911@aol.com] About Jewel Being Sad~~ [DmBear978@aol.com] Live Letterman cd ["Mark Anthony Miazga" ] Jewel concert reviews and fan poetry, stories, etc... for my site [truji] Re: NJC: if you haven't done it today, do it! Smile! [JonBoy911@aol.com] A few little thoughts... ["Melissa :) " ] Re: I want MARS [bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate)] Re: Tape Bag ["*Sp@ceGrrrl*" ] Everything's more than it seems *njc* [GRooVe MoNTHLY ] Re: I want MARS [JonBoy911@aol.com] Re: Vinyl CD [jane ] Re: I want MARS ["Larry G." ] Re: I want MARS [Fett30@aol.com] Re: Vinyl CD [Matt Willcourt ] Yesterdays *secret* EDA gathering in NYC [The Quiet Angel ] NJC: Harrises WERE injured in the taping of these shows... [Harrisbros@ao] darn those VH1 [st_kuo@ix.netcom.com] Re: A few little thoughts... [The Quiet Angel ] JC: I saw the Foolish Games Video [naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao)] Re: I want MARS [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] Please keep those B-day wishs coming in [Joshua Baummer ] NJC: To everyone that helped me! [screamgurrl ] Re: POY on Vinyl/Vinyl CD/DVD [Jane107@aol.com] (Fwd) Choosers.. [smithr@agcs.com (Roger Smith)] Re: shocked at Lilith Fair! [smithr@agcs.com (Roger Smith)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:04:31 -0400 (EDT) From: JewldEagle@aol.com Subject: Re: hi again In a message dated 97-07-13 16:19:26 EDT, balfe@indigo.ie (Shane ;o) NIN) writes: << s there any more jewel CD I can buy 'cause the only thing I can get here is the pieces of you album ?? >> u know what? I was wondering the same thing. Keri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:16:13 -0400 (EDT) From: JewldEagle@aol.com Subject: Re: Disneyfest In a message dated 97-07-13 18:22:54 EDT, MAXMOUZE@aol.com writes: << 19 EDAs are scheduled to attend Disneyfest, the EDA trip at Disneyland next Saturday, the 19th. >> what's and EDA? Keri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:22:04 -0400 (EDT) From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Re: Tape Bag In a message dated 97-07-12 00:46:49 EDT, red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel) writes: << Only 3 people express support. Including you. I don't really think that people backed it up. I wish they had though...... =( >> I'd be willin. I think it would be great. COME ON !!!!! EDAs, I know that you are like me and have music you love, and not many have heard it. Maybe it's your band. Well, you have the chance to change the world's musical taste. All you have to do is post in favor of this message!! YES! It's just that easy. JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:21:47 -0400 (EDT) From: DmBear978@aol.com Subject: About Jewel Being Sad~~ Hi Everybody, Ive got an idea(now that Ive finally caught up in the digest reading I kn= ow whats going on) Lets mail her a bunch of happy, feel better cards like when your friend i= s sick...kinda like a get well card I guess :) Im going to spontatously write a 2 or 3 page letter...about being happy. = Ok, I don' t know why but Im feeling like a moron for just saying that. I guess I don't like to hear about sad things. Ive gone through plenty o= f that & with how young I am (18) Ive probably still got alot to go through. HAKUNA MATANTA - - P=DCmba & Timone from the Lion King :o) Later. 'Quiet Warrior' boy becoming a man Alex 'Hey, that guys selling cotton candy' Jewel at Irvine Lilit= h Fair ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:27:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Anthony Miazga" Subject: Live Letterman cd This is from the Sinead O'Connor mailing list. > The following article is from the July 10, 1997 issue of the Los Angeles > Times newspaper: > > "Late Show" Music > Written by Shauna Snow > > "Late Show With David Lettermen" is putting together a series of albums > featuring live performances from the CBS show. The first release, scheduled > for October on Reprise Records, will focus on rock acts, with producers aiming > to include unique duets such as Al Green & Lyle Lovett, Elvis Costello & Burt > Bacharach, Jewel & Flea, and Van Morrison & Sinead O'Connor backed by the > Chieftains. Country and R&B performances are planned for subsequent albums. > > > Johnnie J. Young > jjyoung@primenet.com > > - -- Mark A. Miazga Michigan State University miazgama@pilot.msu.edu East Lansing, MI USA ******************************* "Yeah I don't sleep, I only dream, a caffeine hole burning through my spleen" -- Brenda Kahn "Days like this, I love you so much, I just want to rip off your head" -- Maggie Estep "A girl called me on the phone... She said come over, there's nobody home... I went over. There was nobody home." -- Rodney Dangerfield ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:38:41 EST From: trujillo@netwrx.net Subject: Jewel concert reviews and fan poetry, stories, etc... for my site Dear EDAs, I'm reposting my request Jewel concert reviews. I need these for my Jewel site which I'm trying hard to expand. I also need poetry, stories, art or anything from all of you for a new section dedicated to Jewel fans. Please reply privately and include all necesary information. If any of you has any other ideas for improvement let me know. Alfred ;] My Personal Site http://personal.netwrx.net/trujillo/ My Jewel Site http://personal.netwrx.net/trujillo/jewel/ My Beatles Site http://personal.netwrx.net/trujillo/beatles My Jennifer Jason Leigh Page http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/4230/ <+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+> Listen to the color of you dreams - --- John Lennon "Tomorrow Never Knows" <+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:26:20 -0400 (EDT) From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: if you haven't done it today, do it! Smile! In a message dated 97-07-12 03:32:52 EDT, JENBUG57@aol.com writes: << "I've learned that you can make a dime dishonesty, but that it will cost you a dollar later on." >> I sure hope Zach read this...don't you? I hate it when people lie, cheat, and steal. No wonder our world is so messed up. I don't know about you, but I'm grabbin my beach blanket, and heading for Mars. JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 97 08:52:08 UT From: "Melissa :) " Subject: A few little thoughts... Melissa's sayin' a few more things right now! ["already?!" you exclaim. "Yes," I say!] 01... _ThANk YOu!!!!!_ Every single EDA who mailed me was sweet and SOOOOO warm, and all those of you who didn't probably aren't [j/k :)]!! Anyway, thanks all for the well-wishes and kindness! It's great to be on a list w/ such awesome people! I can already tell the love on this list -- BIG hugs to all! :) 02... _What We Stand For_ I know I'm not a fully-qualified person to respond to this, but I *really* believe that EDAs *are* just that, everyday angels. We're [well, at least I'm] not all saints who has the capability to resist temptation or little sins. Everyone's an everyday angel b/c of the *little* things he/she does: I volunteer at a local hospital, my friends clean up the beach, we put that extra change up for charity, and some might do what seems to be a smaller thing, like giving a few cents more to the waitress or just helping someone out if they have a love-life crisis. Does that make *any* sense? 03... _1st Question_ Here's my first question for y'all [expect *many*!]: Have any of you converted your friends/family members to Jewel? Stories are expected! :) 04... Well, I'm pretty much gonna wrap it up here -- again, thank you for all your warm welcomes and sweetness! This list is awesome! Fare thee well... ~Melissa~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:31:25 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: I want MARS I think they DID mind. They were sorta FORCED into it. - -Em > >The American Indians didn't seem to mind > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:53:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "*Sp@ceGrrrl*" Subject: Re: Tape Bag At 01:22 AM 7/14/97 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-07-12 00:46:49 EDT, red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the >blurred Angel) writes: > ><< Only 3 people express support. Including you. I don't really think that > people backed it up. I wish they had though...... =( > >> > I'd be willin. I think it would be great. COME ON !!!!! EDAs, I >know that you are like me and have music you love, and not many have heard >it. Maybe it's your band. Well, you have the chance to change the world's >musical taste. All you have to do is post in favor of this message!! YES! >It's just that easy. > JonBoy911 I think that this could be a good idea *smile* I say yes *smile* *spacegrrrl* {\o/} /_\ > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 01:52:02 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: Everything's more than it seems *njc* I take that line from a Bush song - "Alien" It's kinda true.. and I'm sure everyone will agree.. I won't say why I'm saying it.. because I don't feel like it I have succumbed to an illness and I feel like shit.. - scuse the language... there's not much i feel like explaining anymore.. i can't understand anyone's jokes - i can't even write poetry... i feel like there's always someone there bothering me, pestering me.. who has the wrong idea about everything even though it's completely obvious what the right idea should be... i'm so pissed today.. and I'm glad some things are happening because it's evolution.. evolving.. i don't care how happy i was with it.. but it's gone now and i'll still be happy.. and at least now i don't need people mistaking things and getting on my nerves more ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:07:56 -0400 (EDT) From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Re: Vinyl CD In a message dated 97-07-13 14:01:35 EDT, SDAngelLI@aol.com writes: << Does this make anybody else feel old. SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl >> I'm 15, and I knew what it was. Jeez, when Gremlins came out the Happy Meal toy was a Gremlins read-along w/ the record, books. Those were the days. JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:07:42 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: Re: I want MARS What is this about? If you're talking about the Cherokee Indians then maybe whoever wrote that first message should take into mind that their travel was called the "Trail of Tears" - yeah I'm sure they didn't mind *doh* I'm part Cherokee Indian and I'm greatly in love with it.. i love the culture and everything... so please don't even DARE say the american indians didn't mind - THEY DID and sorry em - i know you weren't the one who wrote that On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Emily S Tate wrote: > > I think they DID mind. They were sorta FORCED into it. > > -Em > > > > >The American Indians didn't seem to mind > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:19:38 -0400 (EDT) From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Re: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-14 00:15:48 EDT, Fett30@aol.com writes: << The American Indians didn't seem to mind >> Well, from other responses to this comment, I guess maybe I was the only one who picked up on the sarcasm in this post. Or, maybe I'm just naive...were you serious? :) JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:27:37 -0700 From: jane Subject: Re: Vinyl CD JonBoy911@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 97-07-13 14:01:35 EDT, SDAngelLI@aol.com writes: > > << Does this make anybody else feel old. > > SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl >> > I'm 15, and I knew what it was. Jeez, when Gremlins came out the Happy > Meal toy was a Gremlins read-along w/ the record, books. Those were the > days. > JonBoy911 I'm 18 and I remember my FIRST vinyl albums, Hall and Oates, and Michael Jackson's Thriller--I loved those! I still do, actually. :) Awww, the memories. Heh, I still have them somewhere... hard to believe that my kids will probably look at vinyl the way my sister looks at 8-tracks--"what the heck are THOSE things?" Hee, hee... :) jane ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ {\o/} /_\ "Sometimes it be that way..." -Jewel "Instinct is the voice of God. That's how He speaks to us." -Oprah Most men prefer looks to brains, because most men see better than they think. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 23:52:41 -0700 From: "Larry G." Subject: Re: I want MARS > > > In a message dated 97-07-13 04:06:28 EDT, goat@voyager.net (Joe) > writes: > > > << > > PS. Don't you think the martians might take slight offense to us > mere > > Earthlings selling their home? > > >> > > > The American Indians didn't seem to mind > I think this was meant as a sarcastic "NOT" comment, made in total sympathy with the native Americans' plight! Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I doubt it! Lovey'all! - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Re: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-14 02:53:01 EDT, graywolfwla@earthlink.net (Larry G.) writes: << I think this was meant as a sarcastic "NOT" comment, made in total sympathy with the native Americans' plight! Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I doubt it! Lovey'all! -=-Larry-=- >> No, Larry, you hit the nail DIRECTLY on the head ~pete~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:01:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Willcourt Subject: Re: Vinyl CD > > I'm 18 and I remember my FIRST vinyl albums, Hall and Oates, and Michael > Jackson's Thriller--I loved those! I still do, actually. Hey I got the Thriller on vinyl! The one with the picture of Mike on the disc itself. That one was cool! I, for one, can't wait for POY to be released on vinyl. I'm one of those who believes vinyl sounds WAY better than CDs when it comes to acoustic recordings. Vinyl and vaccum tubes, old school equipment! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:05:47 -0400 From: The Quiet Angel Subject: Yesterdays *secret* EDA gathering in NYC Hello everyone, Hmm betcha didn't know that an EDA gathering was formed and occured yesterday. This top secret hush hush rendezvous was cleverly constructed by the skilled planning hands of the Angel named THiiiiiiiiiirZA! Although I must say she did make a few blunders, like informing two PA EDAs, Tom Miles and Stephanie K., (I'll just abbreviate is that ok?) about it till the last minute. Our little mission was to join together to watch a free Sleater-Kinney Concert in Central Park... here's what really happened :oO Ok well, for me, the whole escapade started the day before when I find out that Tom and Stephie :op had nowhere to crash, so I (all too spontaneously) offered my place. Well here it was 10 in the evening, I'm sitting in a tiny apartment that was completely trashed (so I don't clean, who does?)... I had till 8 that morning to whip this home into shape (some sort of shape at least). At about 7:30 I stopped, looked around and was satisfied.... called THiiiiiiiiiirZA to see if I could head over yet and was told in a "it's way too early" morning mumble that I should wait an hour (big mistake). At 10:50 THiiiiiirZA's call wakes me and says "Where are you?" .....!!!!!!! So an hour later I arrive at her house (courtesy of my taxi driving dad) and can't find an EDA (or THiiiiirZA's apartment) in my search. I figure... they must be heading to the concert... so I take my leave from THiiiiirZA's empty apartment and head to the Park to find my precious EDA's... More of EDA Alone II: Lost In New York after a brief Giannyboy line G-Strings announcement... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:27:36 -0400 From: The Quiet Angel Subject: Yesterdays *secret* EDA gathering in NYC (Part Deux) Oh... are we on? Where's my script!?! *clears throat, paper rustle* I exited the subway station at about 1:30, entered the park, and at 15 min till 3, I found the concert area (I am now certified to be an official Central Park tour guide). Now to find my Angels... There are only a few thousand people here... I'll find them... Sleater-Kinney started and ended with me battling through the thick body mass the whole time (I didn't see them, but I heard them... rockin beat!) Ok shows over, people scattering... Why don't I page them! Wait a minute... isn't that THiiiiiirZA hidden in the front of that group people? Computer Confirmation....: AFFIRMITIVE! Yay! I had found my Angels! Steve, Pete, Tom, and Steph were standing in a chatting circle (that I deftly attached to without being noticed), while Kelly was off somewhere getting wet. And Steph (the only angel there I had never met IRL) shouts "Abel!" Wow about time someone noticed me! Hugs all around! Alright let's go... Russ!!! Ok can we go now!?! Ok to make this "short"... Many more interruptions... Enter HMV (Bye Pete!) Exuent HMV, interruptions, Enter Tower Records (Got YWMFM German Import Woohoo) :o) Exit Tower Records, Enter Subway, Exit Subway, Enter Chelsea Footwear (I tickled Steph *hehehe*) Exit Chelsea Footwear, Enter Store (Mmm whipped cream and Gatorade) Exit Store, Enter Subway (Bye Russ!) Exit Subway, Enter Schoolyard (Mmm whipped cream), Exit Schoolyard, Enter THiiiiirZA's place. Alright time to unwind and do our EDA bonding :o) The few of us that were starving (everyone but Mr. Pearl) had pizza from Domino's. We shared the comp to talk on AOL and got to talk to Chelsea (CHELS!!!) on Tom's cell... Watched Jewel on TV (tape) and listened to her (and others) on the radio (tape). Ok 2am... Everybody *clap clap* you can keep on partying, you just can't stay here. Bye THiiiiirZA! *group hug* Ok more whipped cream! hehehe :o) and a "long ride" to Kelly's. Bye Kelly! *hugs all around* Another "long ride" this time to my place and Steve, Steph, and Tom cram into my already cramped apartment. Tom, IRC's and chimes into the convos every once in a while. Tom crashes on the floor and the rest of us take a neat little stroll to the glass ridden corner of the block (Steve, next time wear your sandals) to watch the building-blocked sunrise. Ok back inside, let's talk. Zzzzzz. Wow 2 hours rest, time for them to go! I didn't realize it was that hard to say goodbye. *hugs to each* Buhbyes... I had a lot of fun and am missing you guyz a whole lot already... I won't let this get to me though cuz I will see most of you again at Bearsville. :oD I'll be counting the days... 6 DTG! :o) My Acomplishments: Quote of the Day: "I am NOT signing that!" -Me Dialogue of Phone Conversation with Chelsea " " Started the "Poke the air to tickle Steph" game Fought the urge to have a cigeratte (with a lot of help from Kelly). Almost 7 months now Fell in love with whipped cream ;o) The Quiet Every Other Day Angel Abel "I'm a sensitive man of the 90's sweet heart, I care for your emotional being an awful lot" -Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 02:19:49 -0500 From: Amy Barker Subject: Re: Vinyl CD Matt Willcourt wrote: > > > > > I'm 18 and I remember my FIRST vinyl albums, Hall and Oates, and Michael > > Jackson's Thriller--I loved those! I still do, actually. > > Hey I got the Thriller on vinyl! The one with the picture of Mike on the > disc itself. That one was cool! I, for one, can't wait for POY to be > released on vinyl. I'm one of those who believes vinyl sounds WAY better > than CDs when it comes to acoustic recordings. Vinyl and vaccum tubes, > old school equipment! vinyl rocks I am 17 and collect vinyl there is so much good music not on Cd or tape Amy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 03:58:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Harrisbros@aol.com Subject: NJC: Harrises WERE injured in the taping of these shows... Hi Angels -- I just wanted to urge everyone to sign up for the Future Folklore tape tree that Mike announced earlier yesterday! I was one of only two EDAs fortunate enough to attend BOTH events chronicled -- the Rugburns impromptu backyard barbeque concert at the EDA San Diego Hot Dog Fest and the Boston living room show by Cindy Lee Berryhill and Elizabeth Hummel (EDA Cafe) -- just weeks apart. I've heard the master tapes Alan has put together, and well, they are some of the BEST ever offered on this list. Steve and Stinky were in a rare mellow mood that you will seldom see at their shows. Steve shows a real sensitive side, and my Harris Brother Stinky plays the heck out of an empty beer box and assorted guitar cases. At one of the strangest shows I've ever seen, Cindy Lee and Elizabeth were exceptional. You gotta hear these two together to believe 'em. (Maybe the upcoming Living Room Tour in August!) Jewel certainly has some talented friends back in San Diego. :-) Now, a word of caution about these tapes: they are definitely rated PGH-13 (Parental Guidance, Harris cartoon violence, must be 13 years of age or at least lie about it). Cindy Lee has a twisted sense of humor, and there are some traumatic moments caught LIVE on tape. At one point during EDA Cafe, I spontaneously combust. Like up in flames. (And I wasn't even drumming!) Hey, quit laughing, this is serious business! But to put ya'lls minds at rest, things worked out okay -- quick thinking and a lifetime of instruction to "Stop, Drop and Roll" averted serious injury. (Although I think what got me into the mess in the first place was "Stomp, Rock and Roll".) So, yes, HARRISES WERE INJURED IN THE TAPING OF THESE SHOWS. I know it's you guys watching all those Fox network "reality" shows like "When Pets Attack Sleeping Owners" and "When Objects Fall from the Sky with Embarrassing Results", so this should be right up your alley! That's my tip of the day. Or week. Whatever, it's good advice. - -- Dennis (The Human Torch) Harris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 97 23:13:21 GMT From: st_kuo@ix.netcom.com Subject: darn those VH1 According to the VH-1 website Hard Rock Live featuring Jewel was supposed to be on from 2:30 to 3:30, instead we got Blues Travelor! Even though they did show Jewel on Blockbuster Rockfest but I am still peeved. Can anyone tell me when VH-1 will show Jewel@ Hard Rock Live? BTW I do hope that we will start sending letters of support for Jewel while she's still on some kind of break. She deserves to hear from the EDAs-from the heart no less. "We are everyday angels." -Jewel EDA always, Stanley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:15:04 -0400 From: The Quiet Angel Subject: Re: A few little thoughts... > 03... _1st Question_ Here's my first question for y'all [expect > *many*!]: Have > any of you converted your friends/family members to Jewel? Stories > are > expected! :) Well I didn't convert anyone but I did lead a lost EDA to the pack :oD I just joined my best friend Danielle to the list on Friday. Let's have everyone give Dani a nice big EDA welcome! ;o) HI DANI!!! :o) This is so great! The Quiet Every Other Day Angel Abel "I'm a sensitive man of the 90's sweetheart, I care for your emotional being an awful lot" -Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Nimitz314@aol.com Subject: Good and Bad? Hi all...I was sitting there reading the posts about "what do we stand for" when I had a thought (rare)...are good and bad people the same? I thought of it this way...'bad' people do things in self-interest, which is to say that they make themselves feel better through whatever it is they do (trickery,etc.)...'good' people do things, supposedly, in the interest of other people; but aren't they doing it for the same reason as the bad people? namely that it makes them feel better? don't they do it so they can tell themselves "i did something good, and i didn't do it for myself"? don't they also do it because, maybe unconciously, they want other people to think, "my, isn't he/she such a good person"? And then i thought about some of the 'good' things i sometimes do...i help the elderly because, to be honest, i feel sorry for them and i feel as if though they need me (kind of like, if not me, then who?)...i never once thought i was doing it just to make people think that i was a good person and get showered with compliments...i've done it many times to make myself feel good about me and who i am...but do we, as people, do 'good' for the same reason that bad people do it? self interest, and no other? - -Steve P.S. This is not a sarcastic post designed to tick EDAs off...I just had one of those wierd 1:20 in the morning thoughts... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:35:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Re: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-14 04:29:51 EDT, JonBoy911@aol.com writes: << << The American Indians didn't seem to mind >> Well, from other responses to this comment, I guess maybe I was the only one who picked up on the sarcasm in this post. Or, maybe I'm just naive...were you serious? :) JonBoy911 >> No, JonBoy, You were one of the many that picked up the comment for it's sarcastic nature. Thank you for reading it with an open mind. Thank you to everyone that have e-mialed me, proving more people understood this comment for what it was meant to be taken as: humorous sarcasm, than others who were upset/offended ~peter~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 04:53:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Fwd: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-14 04:39:32 EDT, ehicks@flash.net writes: << I dunno, you might have already done this and i didn't see it, but i suggest that you post to the list and tell them that you were being sarcastic. Cuz there are a lot of angry people out there! I dunno, it seems like a lot of people lately haven't been seeing sarcasm in anything. Anyway, good luck warding everyone off! *hugs* Emily >> - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: ehicks@flash.net To: Fett30@aol.com Date: 97-07-14 04:39:32 EDT > thank yo uvery much for your post > > i'm VERY glad to see SOMEBODY understands the sarcasm I dunno, you might have already done this and i didn't see it, but i suggest that you post to the list and tell them that you were being sarcastic. Cuz there are a lot of angry people out there! I dunno, it seems like a lot of people lately haven't been seeing sarcasm in anything. Anyway, good luck warding everyone off! *hugs* Emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 05:18:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Re: darn those VH1 In a message dated 97-07-14 05:15:55 EDT, st_kuo@ix.netcom.com writes: << According to the VH-1 website Hard Rock Live featuring Jewel was supposed to be on from 2:30 to 3:30, instead we got Blues Travelor! Even though they did show Jewel on Blockbuster Rockfest but I am still peeved. Can anyone tell me when VH-1 will show Jewel@ Hard Rock Live? BTW I do hope that we will start sending letters of support for Jewel while she's still on some kind of break. She deserves to hear from the EDAs-from the heart no less. "We are everyday angels." -Jewel EDA always, Stanley >> In New Jersey Jewel preoformance was shown at 2:30 till 3:30pm Eastern time. I watched and taped it. Anyone else miss it? Send my a video tape and i'll copy it ~peter~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 00:58:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Fett30@aol.com Subject: Re: I want MARS In a message dated 97-07-14 00:31:10 EDT, bahamude@user1.channel1.com (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes: << > << > PS. Don't you think the martians might take slight offense to us mere > Earthlings selling their home? > >> > The American Indians didn't seem to mind This is akin to saying the holocost never happened in Europe under Nazi occupation. Everyone, this is a racially insensitive statement based completely in ignorance. Hurtful inflammatory statements like these don't belong on this list and I urge no one else post further responses to this list regarding this thread. Fett30 I hope you just didn't know, but please understand what you posted is just plain wrong and can be construed by many as downright offensive to put it mildly. >> OK OK OK OK OK it was a JOKE!! Geeeeez! i am EXTREMELY sorry to ANYONE i offended! i was being DUMB and SARCASTIC! i am not a 5 year old. do you people OBVIOUSLY think i am STUPID enough to IGNORE facts from american history? I am a junior in college and i got B's (granted, not A's) but B's in history. i am VERY aware of the persicution the Native American endored (and still endore) and BECAUSE of this OBVIOUS awarness i was being SARCASTIC!! plenty of people form the list have already e-miled me privatly saying they were laughing at the statement you called offensive. It is obvious now that there are too many young people on this list that don't understand sarcasm. ANd comparing it the holocost only makes me angrier. At least you could have e-mailed me privately. But know. call me an asshole to the 1000+ people here (most of which are only in high school) If i offended ANYONE i apologize deeply. This is the first NEGATIVE e-mail i have recieved about this (as opposed to the 4 current ones saying it was funny) I meant no harm. Jesus Christ, do you guys REALLY think i am THAT stupid? signed PETER J. BRUCATO III FETT30@AOL.COM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 22:30:56 -0600 From: ehicks@flash.net Subject: Re: I want MARS > > The American Indians didn't seem to mind > > This is akin to saying the holocost never happened in Europe under Nazi > occupation. Everyone, this is a racially insensitive statement based > completely in ignorance. Hurtful inflammatory statements like these don't > belong on this list and I urge no one else post further responses to this > list regarding this thread. Ok, I may be totally wrong, but I'm pretty convinced that when Fett30 said this, she/he was joking. Sarcasm. If I'm wrong, then I agree w/ you Albert, but I'm pretty sure that this statement was not made w/ a serious intent. Perhaps it was made to show what (probably won't but) might happen if we ever DO have to inhabit Mars and we end up doing to the Martians what we did to the Native Americans. Or it was a sarcastic crack at that anyway. So anyway, calm down people. *hugs* Emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: James McGarry Subject: Re: I want MARS On Mon, 14 Jul 1997 Fett30@aol.com wrote: > being DUMB and SARCASTIC! i am not a 5 year old. do you people OBVIOUSLY > think i am STUPID enough to IGNORE facts from american history? I am a Peter, I got the sarcasm, but it just wasn't funny, to me at least. Its not that people thought you are stupid though, not everyone can see typed sarcasm in a single statement. That's mainly a limitation of the media. There's no sense of inflection; of voice. And unfortunately for you, First Nations rights are an inflammatory topic right now. Then there are those to whom that joke, even gently kidding wouldn't've been funny. While laughing at death is normal and quite healthy, war isn't a thing of amusement to someone who had lost relations in the conflict. To help you understand how that night have affected other people pick up a book called "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. Despite its length its a quick read; a succinct and rather poignant indictment of US policy towards their First Nations. I have a decidedly base belief that it is not possible for a moral person to read this books without tears. Take Care, James. ========================================================================== James McGarry | jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Well I'm bored with Iran and I'm bored with Iraq/Egypt and Israel and Yasser Arafat/The Falklands was cool but it was too damn short/I want a real war 'cause I built a bitchin' fort. But I was bored/so I prayed to the Lord/Give me a war. Cause I'm so bored/and I want more/a real fuckin' war." - Steve Poltz, the Rugburns, "War" ========================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:11:54 -0700 From: naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) Subject: JC: I saw the Foolish Games Video Hi everyone, I don't have time to go into details and describe it, but I just woke up and saw the Foolish Games Video on VH1 at 8:00 am. So I guess you can see it today on VH1 and not wait till MTV's premiere tomorrow. Oh well, I might as well describe a little bit. I only caught the second half of it. It's kind of a misty and dark video, Jewel's hair is up but she has the wreath of leaves like in the RS picture (the photographer is the director). The body double is used to have a mirror effect. Jewel and the double face each other and touch hands so it looks like a mirror. That's basically all I remember, I had just gotten up. I didn't see any kimono girls, so they probably came at the beginning. Have a nice day =) Naveen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:21:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: I want MARS On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, James McGarry wrote: Thank you James! I'm glad there are people on this list who understand the sensitivity of this issue and understand what it means to have good taste in what they poke fun at. Peter- You cannot, I repeat, CANNOT post something like that and assume that everyone will think it's ok, sarcasm or not. For a lot of people, including myself, Native issues are a serious concern and it wasn't ok to post that either in seriousness or in jest, especially in that form. If you could see how so many native peoples are living on the reservations in the West, without running water, without electricity, without adequate law enforcement, but yet maintaining their dignity everyday, I think you could understand why it's not appropriate. There's no way anyone who's seen this can even poke fun at it. I definitely didn't mean to be negative and I apologize to everyone on the list for being so, but that really hit home for me personally and to me was just not funny and downright disappointing to see on this list. And I guess that illustrates the point I was making. > Peter, > I got the sarcasm, but it just wasn't funny, to me at least. Its not > that people thought you are stupid though, not everyone can see typed > sarcasm in a single statement. That's mainly a limitation of the media. > There's no sense of inflection; of voice. And unfortunately for you, First > Nations rights are an inflammatory topic right now. > Then there are those to whom that joke, even gently kidding wouldn't've > been funny. While laughing at death is normal and quite healthy, war isn't > a thing of amusement to someone who had lost relations in the conflict. > > To help you understand how that night have affected other people pick up > a book called "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. Despite its > length its a quick read; a succinct and rather poignant indictment of US > policy towards their First Nations. I have a decidedly base belief that it > is not possible for a moral person to read this books without tears. Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:40:26 -0400 From: Joshua Baummer Subject: Please keep those B-day wishs coming in Hello all, I posted this yesterday could you all that did not send a b-day wish to my sister Kari do so. Kari is 22 today and I would like if EDA's sent her B-day wishs if you haven't yet. Again her name is Kari Baummer she is 22 today so please send her a b-day wish. Thanks. Josh An EDA forever. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:41:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chelsface@aol.com Subject: Re: Yesterdays *secret* EDA gathering in NYC (Part Deux) In a message dated 97-07-14 03:44:26 EDT, rosarioa@cuny.campus.mci.net (The Quiet Angel) writes: > Dialogue of Phone Conversation with Chelsea " " actually it was something like: Chelsea: Wow, you're talking, I've never heard your voice before, its so weird. Abel: Stop analyzing me! C: I'm not analyzing you! A: OK, here's Stephanie. Iluvyoububye. Chelsea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:36:08 -0400 From: "Peter Jones" Subject: 8/29 Harborlights-HELP Does anyone have a recommendation for gettings tickets for the 8/29 show any way other than calling Newbury Comics (per recommendation of Harborlights)? I just freed up my schedule so I can fly into Boston that weekend, and would like to get two tickets. All Newbury Comics has is Standing Room (worst case) and Obstructed View (not worth buying). If anyone has a suggestion, please contact me privately (pjones@mail.comet.net); no sense in wasting the list's time on this issue. Thanks. Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 11:35:14 -0700 From: screamgurrl Subject: NJC: To everyone that helped me! To everyone that helped me in my LOVE problem i just wanted to tell ya that 2 days ago i told him what i felt for him....... GUESS WHAT HE SAID...... "I wish i could hold ya now, kiss ya......" AAAAHHHHHHH im so =).... hehehe Thanx to all of ya!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 10:53:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jane107@aol.com Subject: Re: POY on Vinyl/Vinyl CD/DVD so if i buy one of these i'm not gonna be able 2 play it unless i spend 500 bucks on a dvd player? ~Christina "1 confused angel" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:20:46 -0700 From: smithr@agcs.com (Roger Smith) Subject: (Fwd) Choosers.. This kinda reminds me...At the Phx Lilith Fair, there was a point where Jewel asked if we wanted to hear Li'l Sister or POY. She said one, then then other, and played Lil Sister because we cheered louder for that one ! :) On Jul 11, 4:15pm, julie wrote: > Subject: ATTN: D.C. Lilith Fair goers > I was thinking that if Jewel asked what we wanted to hear, we'd have a > much better chance of hearing a song if we all pulled together and > shouted the same thing at the same time. Anyway, here's what I want: > > Tiny Love Spaces > 1,000 Miles Away > Memoirs of a Housewife > Sometimes it Be That Way > > Maybe ya'll could email me and we'd put it to a vote. I'll tally them > up, and tell you all. Just a suggestion. > Jules > > >-- End of excerpt from julie - ---End of forwarded mail from smithr (Roger Smith) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:36:49 -0700 From: smithr@agcs.com (Roger Smith) Subject: Re: shocked at Lilith Fair! I agree...I was really hoping for an encore...The place didn't really come alive for the other performers until Jewel came on.. Maybe she doesn't do encores....anyone?? On Jul 12, 1:59pm, Rusty Carter wrote: > Subject: shocked at Lilith Fair! > > [ text/plain > Encoded with "quoted-printable" ] : Angels, > Anyone who saw Lilith fair in Phoenix AZ on the tenth I have a question for. Was anyone surprised, shocked, or really disappointed when Jewel finished her last song, said "thanks, good night" really quick then briskly walked off stage.... With no encore, even though the whole place was on it's feet cheering? For me it was bitter sweet; I was so happy to see her perform, then she just took off. All the other performers did encore's, and I was disappointed when the lights came back up after she finished and people started to boo. I was disappointed by them too. Sheesh, I guess I'm just venting, but I'd really like to know if anyone else was surprised by her performance. Maybe something was wrong, so I'm not disappointed in her, just what happened. > > Let me know what you think, > Rusty > >-- End of excerpt from Rusty Carter ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #557 ***************************