From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #542 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, July 9 1997 Volume 02 : Number 542 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: poem [Damian ] Time [JonBoy911@aol.com] NJC: My novel.... ["Derrick Chhay" ] NJC:Super Deluxe! ["schu.sacc" ] Toronto LF [Godwiness@aol.com] Re: Time [mr.neal@juno.com (Neal Tsay)] irvine lilith fair. [Cherm ] NJC: Holly McNarland new CD, Stuff [Gianfranco Covello ] NJC: JewelStock NOT, HarrisStock NOT, HORDE Maybe... [Harrisbros@aol.com] FG on the radio ["Larry G." ] Re: MrBB-To All Bearsville Reunion Attendees [SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU] Bearsville 97/Angel Needs a Ride [SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU] Jewel using EDA picks [dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick)] SJC: upsetting . . . [dmoreno@thrasher.calstatela.edu (Daniel Moreno)] RE: Jewel using EDA picks [CONNELL@taurus.cs.lmco.com] Re: SJC: upsetting . . . [sm_kartalopo@ACAD.FANDM.EDU (Stephanie Kartalop] Re: Jewel using EDA picks [Jeffrey Miller ] tix to PNC Lillith fair????? [Akira ] NJC: Re:Who to turn to???? [BillYeh@aol.com] Re: NJC: JewelStock NOT, HarrisStock NOT, HORDE Maybe... [MorpheusOB@aol.] Re: SJC: upsetting . . . [Barnabus heckubus? ] Feeling Down [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] Re: Revised Jewel Mags+Sightings [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] Re: T-Shirts? *EDAC* [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] Re: Interviewer is idiot [gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn)] Re: Feeling Down [Albert Sze-Wei Wang ] NJC**poem**NJC [red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel)] MrBB-The WEBCAST TONIGHT-URL Needed [ABershaw@aol.com] Jewel wearing red dresses [dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick)] Re: SJC: upsetting . . . [Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: NJC: poem Well here's a poem I came across from my favourite poet Irving Layton. Whom I Write For When reading me, I want you to feel as if I had ripped your skin off, Or gouged out your eyes with my fingers; Or scalped you, and afterwards burnt your hair in the staring sockets; having first filled them with fluid from your son's lighter. I want you to feel as if I had slammed your child's head against a spike; And cut off your member and stuck it in your wife's mouth to smoke like a cigar. For I do not write to improve your soul; or to make you feel better, or more humane; Nor do I write to give you any new emotions; Or to make you proud to be able to experience them or to recognize them in others. I leave that to the fraternity of lying poets - - no prophets, but toadies and trained seals! How much evil there is in the best of them as their envy and impotence flower into poems And their analitity into love of man, into virtue: Especially when they tell you, sensitively, what it feels like to be a potato. I write for the young man, demented, who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima; I write for Nasser and Ben Gurion; For Kruschev and President Kennedy; for the Defense Secretary voted forty-six billions for the extirpation of humans everywhere. I write for the Polish officers machine-gunned in the Katyn forest; I write for the gassed, burnt, tortured, and humiliated everywhere; I write for Castro and tse-Tung, the only poets I ever learned anything from; I write for Adolf Eichmann, compliant clerk to that madman, thr human race; For his devoted wife and loyal son. Give me words fierce and jagged enough to tear your skin like shrapnel; Hot and searing enough to fuse the flesh off your blackened skeleton; Words with the sound of crunching bones or bursting eyeballs' or a nose being smashed with a gun butt; words with the soft plash of intestines falling out of your belly; Or cruel and sad as the thought which tells you "this is the end" And you feel time oozing out of your viens and yourself becoming one with the weightless dark. is this poem funky or what? Damian Nguyen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:59:29 -0400 (EDT) From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Time Apparently the Mars landing is more important than Jewel. Oh, well...maybe next week. JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 97 00:26:36 PDT From: "Derrick Chhay" Subject: NJC: My novel.... hey guys. hmmmm....what was i gonna say..hmm....uh..hehe....oh yeah! well, i've done poetry, i've done artwork, i've done teen counseling...next i'm gonna try to write a novel. so here's where you guys come in. i thought it'd be interesting if you all could give me one element to add to my novel...it can be anything...a setting, names, characters, events...anything! and with all the different ones, it'll turn out to be a rather...um...strange, but interesting novel. email me, k? Cricket LoveHopePeace ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 21:27:36 -0700 From: "schu.sacc" Subject: NJC:Super Deluxe! EDA's hey all. Does anyone on this list like Super Deluxe? They are a band out of Seattle and are really good. Not many people have heard of them and there is so many people on this list I thought it would be the best place to ask. I just saw them in concert today and must tell all of you EDA's in WA, check them out live! They are soooo much better live than on their CD's. They are playing EndFest at the Kitsap County Fairgrounds on Aug. 2nd, Tower Records on the 11th, Moore Theatre on August 16th, and Bumbershoot on August 31st. They kick ass! Sorry about the NJC. Later. Marcus "But daddy longlegs I fear, that I'm finally growing weary, of waiting to be consumed by you"-Fiona Apple "Hold on to nothing, as fast as you can"-Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 02:40:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Godwiness@aol.com Subject: Toronto LF For those that have inquired...I will be posting a list on a web page of who is going to what shows in Canada and what seats they have if they have given it. I will also be adding the campground site that we will be staying at. Tegan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 03:06:13 EDT From: mr.neal@juno.com (Neal Tsay) Subject: Re: Time Mars landing? Jewel? Mars landing? Jewel? I think they chose the Mars Landing over Jewel on the cover because the rocks on Mars weren't crooked like...*geez, just kidding!* Well, I hope that Time at least covered the *important* aspects of the Mars landing, like - - How long until babies on beach blankets are headed for Mars? - - The NASA/JPL people can fix a satellite; but can they fix themselves? Look on the bright side, it gives you time to catch up on all the other magazines, right? Oh yeah, and after the half-hour Unpluggeds for Wallflowers and Erykah Badu, aren't you all glad they gave Jewel a whole hour? - --Neal, in his pathetic attempt to start posting more often JonBoy911informed us that: > Apparently the Mars landing is more important than Jewel. Oh, >well...maybe next week. > JonBoy911 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 01:17:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Cherm Subject: irvine lilith fair. hi. so did we come up with a place where we might be able to meet before, during or after the concert tomorrow (later today i should say). how many of us are going anyway? one guy mentioned in front of dominos pizza. i guess i will pass by there. --michael newport beach, ca "Wearing nothing is divine, Naked is a state of mind" -Luscious Jackson ============================================ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:30:56 -0400 From: Gianfranco Covello Subject: NJC: Holly McNarland new CD, Stuff Hi all.. I purchased Holly McNarland's new CD called Stuff, lemme tell you, its awesome!!! i haven't stoped playing it... its so good! I recommend this CD to all, if you decide to purchase it you won't be dissappointed, and you get my usual guarentee which means nothing, just that when ever someone says guarentee, it seems to work ;-) Holly is one of my favourite artists! and all you Scranton PA'ers are gonna see her at lilith, in the village acoustic stage. Check out http://www.universalcanada.com to see Holly's web page, there should be tour info there as well, if you don't have access to a browser, email me privately and i'll set you up :-) take care... - -Gian- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:10:15 -0400 From: Gianfranco Covello Subject: Re: NJC:Toronto Lilith Fair Hey, i'm going to the Toronto lilithfair (both of them), and umm oh yeah, there is going to be one of the *biggest* gatherings there :-) hope to see many of you again :-) Ok, here's the low down... The preliminary plans are to camp out near the venue if possible, i'm checking in to that. There *might* be a surprise before the Saturday show, and some of you know what it is, please don't tell :-) So far there are about 40-50 people interested, many locals though :-) here in Toronto is one of the largest bases for EDA's, heheh all part of that Canadian conspiracy ;-) Ok, if you want anymore info i'm working on a webpage for it and you can email me privately, i hear there might be a Harris lurking around Toronto around that time, we'll see :-) Keep your eyes open! take care... - -Gian- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 07:13:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Harrisbros@aol.com Subject: NJC: JewelStock NOT, HarrisStock NOT, HORDE Maybe... ***With the anniversary of JewelStock quickly approaching, and many EDAs going to this "BEARSVILLE '97" reunion thing in a little over a week, I got to thinking... we need entertainment! And lots of it. Here's the plan - -- we'll have an EDA mega-event, and the HARRISES will entertain! ALL OF THEM! And we'll even do it for free, as the first of a twisted "outdoor living" concert series... (Future Funny Folklore?) The OPENING HARRIS ACTS: Okay, I'll be Master of Ceremonies (or bouncer again, whatever), Selena will glow positively radiant as returning EDA Sweetheart (maybe we'll bury her HEAD FIRST this time!) and Mike can do his trick with the beach ball, new underwear and a pair of ducks (oops, that would make it an 18 and over show). Stinky will bring that San Diego garage band he's got (the RugBums?), Amy will tap dance in pigtails and do trick llama riding (always a crowd pleaser), little Dean will sit quietly on my shoulder and behave (or else) and Erica can thrill the crowd by diving 15 feet into a bowl of pudding (hit or miss, it'll be a hit). Phil "Not a Harris" the Tee-Shirt Guy (tm) and Tom Harris can run the tie-dye tee shirt and food concession stand (try the "Crunchy" peanut butter sandwiches). BTW, this year's official tee-shirt will feature the "hole in the armpit" Jewel made such a fashion statement with last year (and the media thought the Grammy dress was controversial). The littlest Harrises Tessa and Chelsea can wear angel wings and carry around those cards between rounds and well, I guess they could recruit more Harrises to replace any we lose during the weekend to attrition and audience hostility. Instead of sensitive poetry readings, we'll do dirty limericks. (Sorry, Steph...maybe there'll be room for "decent" poetry next year!) We'll also let loose a whole bunch of frogs under the stage BOTH nights (relax, Farr the "Frog Wrangler" will be on duty). Crowd participation will be encouraged. The first to knock a Harris offstage with a frisbee wins $25. (Sinjin is ineligible as his aim is far too deadly.) Please note that knocking Harrises offstage with paintballs will NOT count. The first to shout for any male Harris to "take it off" will immediately be duct-taped to the stage, and later autographed with permanent blue sharpies by all those attending the event. Audience yodeling is not only encouraged, but REQUIRED. In fairness to new folks, the most colorful hair contest will be closed to Rachel and Toni. Liz "please write JEWEL on my forehead" Clark will run the face painting booth... ;-) The "No, We Have No Carter Navarro Today" tradition will be strictly observed. No exceptions! Tom Proven will have his head reshaved and he will be strategically placed in a horizontal position on a picnic table for the weekend (again). Paul "Iron Man" Kim-Tyson will be muzzled and put on display (ALIVE! ALIVE! ALIVE!)...just don't get TOO close as his bite is as bad as his bark. To promote the carnival atmosphere, we'll bury a copy of "Save The Linoleum" in the large cow pasture that was Woodstock and I'll rent everyone shovels for $5 an hour! For the budget-minded, you can get a "full french" smooch at Igor's Kissing Booth for only one dollar! Visit our e-mail psychic Sean Hooks online, then let Larry Kookybaka gently talk you down from those two harrowing experiences. Sound like fun? Yea, ya betcha, sure! But here's the best part: Jewel is invited, and she can make HER OWN BUTTONS saying things like "Jewel, what a Gal", "Pro Jewel", "Anti-Jewel", "Gotta love that batty little Yodel-Honey (tm) Jewel" and such. She can pass 'em out to everyone, and then I'll demand of HER "who the hell is this Jewel chick?!?" Then, on the second night, after interrupting me onstage and telling me that MY long-winded story was "deep", she can stand on the furniture and lead a rousing crowd yodel for a final, emotionally draining 15th encore! (Hey, we Harrises LOVE the stage) I'll say, "Ah, Bless Ye Jewel, Ye Little Batty Yodel-Honey (tm)!" and sing HER the last song this time ("1,000 Miles Away and Still Too Damn Close")... Then I'll jump on the back of Michel's yellow BMW motorcycle and ride off into the night (well, scratch that last part, I guess). Dean will dump a whole box of guitar picks, laser-printed setlists and autographed pudding boxes on the stage so no one goes home empty handed! Everyone will get mushey and teary-eyed about leaving (just like last time). But unlike last time, we'll hug and leave knowing we'll all see each other again (less angst that way, you understand). Afterwards, Jewel can post how she had chinese breakfast the next morning with Mike, DawgBoy and Harris. Akira will whine and moan about being left out again. (God, this sounds familiar...) Best of all, we can all hang out at the PineCrest (or what's left of it) and party both nights until we crash (oops, maybe I shouldn't say that around Eric) ;) And this time, we'd actually get to soak in the Woodstock experience without the distraction Jewel caused last time! Just an idea... Of course, the name would have to change (too damn many "stocks" being held on this list)...maybe The H.O.R.D.E. Festival? (Harrises Out Raising the Devil with EveryDayAngels) - -- Dennis (just hallucinating, but feel free to ask any JewelStocker for clarification on the inside jokes...) Harris p.s. Absolutely NO damn stuffed purple bears are allowed anywhere near the event! And don't be so bossy this year, Alan... we'll do "Herbivore" for you BOTH nights... ;) {{{Hey angels! Just how many obscure, minimally relevant historical references were made in this post? Send me your guess! Winners announced at Bearsville '97. Void where prohibited by law. No purchase necessary. No prizes awarded, but it will be interesting to see who was paying attention.}}} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 05:15:21 -0700 From: "Larry G." Subject: FG on the radio Hi, angels! Yesterday, while driving on the freeway, I was listening to the radio. The station (Star 98.7 in L.A.) was giving away free Lilithfair tix to caller number 23. The winner (nobody I know) was totally excited. The DJ said, "Do you know why we picked caller number 23?" the Winner: "That's how old Jewel is!" DJ: "Right!" Then the DJ said "listen to this great new recording of Jewel singing Foolish Games," and he continued to wax rhapsodic (for a commercial DJ) about the song, then played it. This station never talks about any artist it plays. This made MY day! love y'all, - -=-Larry-=- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 08:36:53 -0500 (EST) From: SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Subject: Re: MrBB-To All Bearsville Reunion Attendees this is such a good idea. =D =D =D =D =D I have a question...is it ok if i, instead of making a specific mix of songs, dub one of my copies of my radio show from this past semester at college? It's got most of my favourite songs, PLUS me reading poetry...ooh...added bonus... love you all cant wait to see you at BEARSVILLE! ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((jewel@smoe.org))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 09:57:52 -0500 (EST) From: SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Subject: Bearsville 97/Angel Needs a Ride Good morning my loves (and you too, you damn Harris Brothers) Hey Dennis...if sensitive poetry is not allowed at Bearsville, I can bring my racey erotic stuff...oh wait...it's robably too NC-17 for some of y'all... =) I hope that this Wednesday morning is finding you all awake, not too hot, and not freezing due to overpowered air conditioners (much like the one where I am working this morning) There is some information/update/whatever that I am going to post for all of y'all. BUt, as usual, before I post my usual lists, I am going to run through the stuff you should make sure you either do or have done... 1. RSVP in the affirmative (or I will haunt you in your worst nightmares...MUHAHAHA) to Crunch at: BRSVL97@aol.com 2. Visit Mike Connell's absolutely beautiful Bearsville 97 page at: http://www.spectra.net/~ducksoup/bv97/bv97.htm 3. Email ME with your carpooling plans at: sm_kartalopo@acad.fandm.edu (woah what a long email address) 4. Email Tammy Campbell for information on camping/lodging (for those of you who are too wimpy to rough it for one night in da woods with everyone else). You also MUST MUST MUST tell Tammy when you will be arriving at Bearsville and at Steve's Campsite (tm) where we will all be spending the night with the hopes that we, too, can become harrisses ;). Tammy's email address is: TLCathome@aol.com 5. Get your angelic butts up to Bearsville! (ok, whoever's gonna bring in the beer make sure it's pretty good stuff...maybe we can coax Tammy to bring some BRIE for us ;) *****Angel Needs a Ride***** Pat "Tom Harris" Brown, from somewhere in VA, tiltedhalo@juno.com Brandon Nguyen, from Orange Cty, NY, bc_nguyen@hotmail.com Steve Horowitz, from New Rochelle, NY, sarfa@aol.com Kelly "Impaled Angel" Magee, from Hicksville, Long Island, NY, AngelKM97@aol.com *****Angels Who Can Give Rides***** Bill Bartholomew, wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu, one person from the Boston area Jared Jacobus, SDAngelLi@aol.com, a few people from Orange, Rockland, and parts of Ulster Counties John Hickey, shallowend@asan.com, one or two people from the NYC area Laura Marion, lmarion@ix.netcom.com,one or two people from Philly area Mike "Ducky Ducky" Connell, ducksoup@spectra.net, one or two people in Binghampton who want to leave at 9 AM Friday *****Established Carpools***** No More Room: Tom "Frat Boy"Miles, tmiles1270@aol.com Stephanie "Greek Poet Chyck" Kartalopoulos, sm_kartalopo@acad.fandm.edu Josh Baummer, Buffalo@Cyberia.com Eric "Crashboy" Montas, Crashboy@aol.com Erica "Kiki Puddini" Cavello, VCavello@aol.com No More Room: Mark "Crunch" "Sparky" Nissley, nestle@ptd.net Ali Fraser, EFraser311@aol.com No More Room: Dennis "Damn Those Harris Brothers" Harris, HarrisBros@aol.com Chris Moynihan, CleoCrazy2@aol.com Chris's guitar (YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!) No More Room: Tegan Godwin, Godwiness@aol.com Bond, Rick Bond, rickbond@concentric.net, JenBug57 NHMichelle No More Room (me thinks): Chris Phillips, phig@olg.com Bond, Lauren Bond, bond@bucknell.edu (hrmm...Rick's long lost sister? ;) Sarah Robeson, robeson+@andrew.cmu.edu No More Room: The Campbell Family, starring: Tammy "Tammy Gives Good Brie" Campbell Rob Campbell AHmetia & Katerina No More Room: Tom "I Love Rachel" O'Brien, MorpheusOB@aol.com Steve Messina, groovylime@aol.com Abel Rosario, rosarioa@cuny.campus.mci.net Room Still for One: Bill Bartholomew, wdb@obl.bidmc.harvard.edu Albert "Dark Seraph" Wang, bahamude@user1.channel1.com *********************** OK, now that is what I have as far as carpooling stuff goes. I know of other people who are coming but are not in need of this bOOtiful Angel Needs a Ride service. hee hee hee. I LOVE YOU ALL SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT TO GIVE YOU ALL HUGE HUGE HUGE HUGS!!!!!!!!!! I CANT WAIT TILL BEARSVILLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! love stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 09:28:31 -0500 (CDT) From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick) Subject: Jewel using EDA picks Does anyone know if Jewel will be using the EDA picks during the Lilith Fair dates? Just curious...or will she still have others she'll be using. I wonder how long it takes her to go through 120? Any guesses? Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 97 09:05:28 PDT From: dmoreno@thrasher.calstatela.edu (Daniel Moreno) Subject: SJC: upsetting . . . I don't know how many of you listen to KKBT 92.3 the Beat in LA Cali in the morning but I am a fan of the HOUSE PARTY . . . but this morning they were talking about their concert called the Summer Jam which sold out in the first hour of sales . . . anyway . . . they started to mention the Lillith Fair and he referred to it as the Lesbian Fair . . . so me being the new Devoted Jewel fan that I am called them up and told them that hey!! Damn it!! I don't really care about the rest of the performers in the Lillith fair but I just want to let you know that Jewel is not a lesbian . . . and don't be talking isht like that when you don't know a damn speck of what it is your talking about . . . and that was it. . . just thpought I would say that . . . thank you for reading my rantings and ravings . . . lalalalalal . . . Danny . . . d=) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:24:15 -0400 (EDT) From: CONNELL@taurus.cs.lmco.com Subject: RE: Jewel using EDA picks Derrick asked: > Does anyone know if Jewel will be using the EDA picks during the > Lilith Fair dates? She doesn't even have her EDA picks yet. May not even get them until the Burgettstown (Pittsburgh) Lilith Fair date....not sure. >Just curious...or will she still have others she'll be using? Even if she had her EDA picks now, who knows what she would use? I'm not a guitar player, but a logical guess is she uses different picks (or no pick) depending on what song she's playing. Can any strummers out there verify that? Mike :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:28:20 -0400 From: sm_kartalopo@ACAD.FANDM.EDU (Stephanie Kartalopoulos) Subject: Re: SJC: upsetting . . . >started to mention the Lillith Fair and he referred to it as the >Lesbian Fair . . . so me being the new Devoted Jewel fan that I am >called them up and told them that hey!! Damn it!! I don't really care >about the rest of the performers in the Lillith fair but I just want >to let you know that Jewel is not a lesbian . . . and don't be talking >isht like that when you don't know a damn speck of what it is your >talking about . . . and that was it. . . just thpought I would say that I hate to sound picky or something, and God knows that the last thing I want to do is start a thread, but I have a question for you: In your post, why do you make it sound as if being a lesbian is a bad thing? Why is it that sexual identity has to be a bad thing? What does a person's sexual identity necessarily have to do with the art that he or she creates, unless the sexuality aspect of his or her personality is incorporated in the art as a celebration of life and love? I think that, in some ways, your responding to their comment almost validates their behaviour as something that is acceptable enough to receive a response. I think that being a devoted Jewel fan would involve more an acceptance of people of different identities (may I refer you to the lyrics of "Pieces of You") and to take some things people say with a grain of salt instead of having to stand up for Jewel by defending her sexual identity. One thing that I think people should learn and gain form her music is that regardless of identity, age, weight, ht, yada yada yada, we are all people, we are all love, and we should treat each other and let ourselves be treated as such rather than constnatly having to defend each other, thus propogating a world which does not allow us to live the way we should live. Sorry if this starts something weird and controversial or anything, I don't want to start some major flame war, it is just my take on it. just my two cents, as people say i love you all, angels stephanie * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Stephanie Kartalopoulos "It was my dream that screwed 448 W. James Street up; my hearthside idea that I Lancaster, PA 17603 could follow one great red (717) 399-4764 line across America rather sm_kartalopo@acad.fandm.edu than taking various roads and Greek Poet Chyck paths." -Jack Kerouac "She's a flower that grows "I'm sorry that Jesus died despite cement holes/ And she will for my sins and I swear to God survive, she will survive" it won't happen again" -Jewel -Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 12:45:48 -0400 From: Jeffrey Miller Subject: Re: Jewel using EDA picks CONNELL@taurus.cs.lmco.com wrote: > > Even if she had her EDA picks now, who knows what she would use? I'm > not a guitar player, but a logical guess is she uses different picks > (or no pick) depending on what song she's playing. > > Can any strummers out there verify that? I'd have to agree with you on that one, Mike. I use a different thickness/shape/style for different tunes, mostly depending upon what style of play or sound I'm going for, although I generally only use 2 or 3 styles overall. - -Jeffrey- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:45:07 -0400 From: Akira Subject: tix to PNC Lillith fair????? I was just wondering if anyone had an extra ticket to the Lillith Fair @ the PNC Center, NJ????? I thought that I would have been busy during this time, and now things have changed. PLEASE email me if you do. Akira ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: BillYeh@aol.com Subject: NJC: Re:Who to turn to???? Steve, You wrote: >her grade (16). I go to her swimming club, and I see her occasionally. I have >this thing where if I like somebody, I tend to ignore them. One time, after >getting out of the pool, I passed by her and we made eye contact, but not one This is, IMO, one of the coolest feelings a person can receive, the feeling of "Hey, I think he/she likes me!" I am happy for you, because I've felt it before, and it is one of the happiest emotions one can enjoy. >was for Saturday practice. Anyhow, I wouldn't be writing this if I didn't >believe that she is somewhat attracted to me...it looks like the first thing >we both do when we both get there is find where we are...I've asked one of my Steve, I would suggest that you try to calm down a little (easy for me to say, I'm sitting on the sidelines, living vicariously through your experiences :-)). Building this whole thing up too much may lead to disappointment later on. Would you be happy to just hang out with her? Become a friend of hers first? I would suggest working on that premise, especially because it sounds like you don't know her personally yet, and you may find that she has a very different personality than you might expect, or might desire. It's great that you think she's attractive, and that you think she's attracted to you, but right now, it sounds like it's a purely physical attraction, a tentative connection between you at best. >vanity problem...Another thing, how would it look if there was this asian guy >going out with this white girl? I live in a nice suburb of Los Angeles and so >does she...really close. Oh, and just as a sideline, she is one of the Again, take a step back and look at this, please. You've barely had a conversation with this person, and you're worried about going out with her? Not to be harsh, but this is where the building things up too much thing comes back around. Don't be hurt, every person does this at some point(s) in his lifetime (I know I've done this waay too many times ;-)), so I'm just trying to share some experience with you. Relax. Take a deep breath. Talk to her the next time you see her. Ask her if she wants to get a soda or something to eat after swimming (or at least 2 hours before, or you may drown, hehe). Then see how things develop. The worst she can do is be rude to you, in which case you (hopefully) wouldn't want to hang out with her anyway. Or she could say yes, in which case you get the opportunity to get to know this human being better. I say human being and not girl/woman/female to make sure you don't deify her, put her on this ridiculous pedestal that she may or may not enjoy. She's a normal person just like you and me, so treat her as one. I've gone through the same thing with a girl I play volleyball with. I thought she was interesting, and funny, etc., so after our match one evening, I asked her what she was doing, and she said she was going to Target, so after hemming and hawing to myself, I thought "This is stupid!" and asked her if she wanted company. She said sure, we went to Target, walked around for a while, did some goofy stuff (trying on sunglasses, hats, etc.), then she asked me to get something to eat with her. We've hung out since then, and I've enjoyed her company greatly, if infrequently, since then (I've been away the past month). By the way, on the last point about race, 1) if someone has difficulty with inter-racial couples, that's THEIR problem, not yours. 2) this girl I met is white as white can be, I'm Asian as can be, and we're in the middle of the South, in Nashville, TN (not a hotbed of liberal thinking by any stretch of the imagination), and for the most part, people smiled at us because we were just hanging out, having a good time, laughing at each other, and enjoying the other person's company. So go ask her to join you in doing something after swimming, or ask her what she's doing and see if she wants company, and play it by ear. Don't ask her "out," with all the heavy connotations attached to that phrase. And let me know if you take my advice, and how it turns out, okay? One more thing; at 16 years of age, she may not be the most rational person in the world (I know I wasn't when I was a teenager), so she may want your company one day and not give you the time of day the next. She does have other friends to hang out with, so she may not give you 100% of her attention, and you would be selfish to ask it of her. So when she blows you off sometimes, don't take it personally, she's just growing, as are you. One more more thing; don't take personal advice from strange people on the internet! Hehe. All kidding aside, I've gone through these same trials of adolescence (I'm 29) too, and hope you can benefit from my errors! Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: MorpheusOB@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: JewelStock NOT, HarrisStock NOT, HORDE Maybe... >Tom Proven will have his head reshaved and he >will be strategically placed in a horizontal position on a picnic table >for the weekend (again). HEY, we may both ahve had shved heads, both be named Tom, but I was the ONLY one on that picnic table!! :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Barnabus heckubus? Subject: Re: SJC: upsetting . . . JEEZ STEPH!! :P back off the poor guy babe.. he was just mearly trying to defend our beloved jewel I dont think he really meant to degrade lesbians the way he did in that post ;) hehehe anyways well as you can tell I am bored.. and I have to go to work so I am unhappy :P Steph as for you.. I dont think I am going to let you drive from PA all the way here by yourself.. I think I might fly over there and drive you here so you dont have to be alone that is a dangerous treck to do by yourself.. and hey we can maybe stay at some angels houses along the way ;) Love and hugz MAtt "The day our opinions cant be said is the day we lose our individuality.. Critisim although I dont think that is what this is.. is healthy.." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:11:53 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: Feeling Down Hell Angels! I think I listened to Glycerine too much, you know that song from bush? Well, if you just listen to the words you end up having a tear roll down your cheek. That's how I feel right now. I just broke up with my BF and it's been hell. I miss him so much..... Should I call him and tell him that I want to get back together?? Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:06:39 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: Re: Revised Jewel Mags+Sightings YEAH IT IS..... I CAN"T FIND IT ANYWHERE..... Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* On Wed, 9 Jul 1997 08:32:16 -0400 (EDT) CUTIEPI959@aol.com writes: >WHAT IS YAHOO INTERNET LIFE IS THAT AN INTERNET MAGAZINE??? > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:13:40 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: Re: T-Shirts? *EDAC* WOW can i get one? i mean i don't want the training i just want the shirt.... sorry if that was rude... Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* On Tue, 8 Jul 1997 20:22:32 -0400 (EDT) GRooVe MoNTHLY writes: >Ok I know I said the last message would be my final one for today but >I >wanted to point out something.. >My mother is in training now, and is going to most likely have a >part-time >job for a screen printer... >I know there ahve been t-shirts made already for the List and >everything, >but I was wondering if anyone out there needed screen printing >abilites >for anything like a business or something. My mother can get you a >discount I'm pretty sure, or at least a decent price. If we want to >make >another EDA shirt in the future, like an annual thing.. then we can do >that too... >Let me know :) >ttyl >-linda > > _\|/_ > o o >...ooo....(_)....ooo..................................................... >| | | >| Linda E. MacIntyre | "do you hate him, 'cause he's >pieces | >| brownie@tsb.inet-images.com | of you?" | >| Editor of the angel's virtual| - jewel "pieces of you" > | >| poetry collection and GRooVe | "what do you do when all your enemies > | >| MoNTHLY | are friends?" | >| | - foo fighters "monkeywrench" > | >| check out the web page - | "can you look out the window without > | >| http://www.geocities.com/ | your shadow getting in the way?" | >| SunsetStrip/Towers/5094/ | - sarah mclachlan "building a >mystery"| >|..............................|........................................| > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:00:17 -0500 From: gosiam@juno.com (Margaret E Milsztajn) Subject: Re: Interviewer is idiot Well, i didn't read the article, but what were some of the dumb questions? Margaret gosiam@juno.com *The*Hyper*Angel* On Wed, 09 Jul 97 17:47:18 GMT st_kuo@ix.netcom.com writes: >I just finished reading the interview of Jewel in US magazine. Is it >just me or >don't you think the interviewer intentially gave Jewel hard time? >When they >first met Jewel checked him up and down and commented,"ah, a >predator." I think >Jewel hit the mark cuz that guy kept asking her dumb questions to >corner her >and maybe to intimidate her. What do you all think? > >an unhappy angel, >Stanley > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:24:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: Feeling Down On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Margaret E Milsztajn wrote: > Hell Angels! Hee. We're Hell's Angels. ;) > I think I listened to Glycerine too much, you know that song from bush? > Well, if you just listen to the words you end up having a tear roll down > your cheek. That's how I feel right now. I just broke up with my BF and > it's been hell. I miss him so much..... Should I call him and tell > him that I want to get back together?? Ask yourself why you broke up with him to being with. Let go of all of the ideas, the illusions, the perceptions and ask yourself honestly if there's really anything there left. Do NOT and I repeat, do NOT go back to him just because you can't leg to of the idea that you don't want to be alone. It's amazing to me many how many women stay in bad relationships because they can't let go of the IDEA of being with someone or can't let go of all the "what-ifs." If it wasn't working for you before, it won't work now. Getting back together for the wrong reasons will only make you more miserable. Let go of the ideas and know that there are angels here who will support you. :) Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:40:18 -0700 From: red_ranger@juno.com (Nick the blurred Angel) Subject: NJC**poem**NJC Ok, this is short, and a bit odd. But tell me what you think... The boob tube The birds and the bees The TV says I'll know when it happens How will I know F*** the TV The TV is fillled with porn That isn't love This TV speaks with a forked tounge I want a new one one with instructions Nick the blurred angel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 13:34:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-The WEBCAST TONIGHT-URL Needed Hi all, Can some knowledgable EDA that knows the URL for tonight's Lilith Fair webcast please send it to me ASAP. Thank you! Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 12:38:49 -0500 (CDT) From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick) Subject: Jewel wearing red dresses There's been some debate as to whether or not Jewel has ever worn a red dress (or ever does wear them)...resulting from the alleged fraud going on by Zach. Well, contrary to some beliefs, here's an excerpt from the Toronto Sun regarding Jewel's apparel at the first Lilith fair concert.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Jewel, as lovely as she is to look at, really didn't need to shove it down >our throats. Photographers jumped all over each other to shoot her as she >performed in a clingy, sheer, **red** cocktail dress and black, high-heeled >sandals. As the sun set behind her not much was left to the imagination.=20 >=A0 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looks like she does wear red dresses from time to time. So, while Zach may still be a fraud, there is evidence, at least this once, that Jewel has worn a red dress before (the color Zach claims she has on in his "posters"). Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 14:09:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Albert Sze-Wei Wang Subject: Re: SJC: upsetting . . . On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Barnabus heckubus? wrote: > JEEZ STEPH!! :P back off the poor guy babe.. he was just mearly trying to > defend our beloved jewel I dont think he really meant to degrade lesbians > the way he did in that post ;) In defense of Stephanie, the original post could have been taken very easily as an indirect derogatory attack on lesbians. Stephanie was completely correctly in her response in pointing out that possible interpretation. I think if the person who posted it was a little bit more mindful of how it could be interpreted, we wouldn't be having this little conversation now. > hehehe anyways well as you can tell I am > bored.. and I have to go to work so I am unhappy :P Steph as for you.. I > dont think I am going to let you drive from PA all the way here by > yourself.. I think I might fly over there and drive you here so you dont > have to be alone that is a dangerous treck to do by yourself.. and hey we > can maybe stay at some angels houses along the way ;) Matt- Was there any reason to post this to the WHOLE list to see? This should have been sent in private email. Since it was posted to the whole list, it deserves a response. I am only speaking for myself, so no one think otherwise. Address further discussion of this topic to me directly in private email ONLY- do not post any responses to the list. Matt, I found what your wrote very sexist and offensive. Stephanie's a big girl. She can take care of herself. If I were her (which I'm not, but if I were) I'd find the subtle hint that she's not capable of taking care of herself and needs a MAN to keep her safe downright insulting. Matt- if you were really her friend and concerned for her safety you'd 1) address the issue to her in private email. 2) ASK her if she'd like company before assuming that you're doing what's best for her. 3) Show her some respect by understanding that she is a person with the power to decide what she will do. Albert Wang Dark Seraph bahamude@user1.channel1.com Jewel Quotes and QTs http://hugse1.harvard.edu/~wangal/jewel.html ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #542 ***************************