From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #486 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, June 25 1997 Volume 02 : Number 486 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Adrian...Come out or gone in? [smithr@agcs.com] Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment [naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao)] A new tread [Joshua Baummer ] JC JC! Foolish Games radio sighting!!!!!! [piper@mclv.net] Re: thanx a bunch you guys! [bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate)] re: Snazzy Jewel POY Lyric book for sale at Lilith Fair! & help for the MTVless [Sarf] Re: NJC: AAAAAH! *thump* [deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez)] Re: NJC: Carnivore...observation/question [ehicks@flash.net] *NJC* Heat = Hostility [GRooVe MoNTHLY ] Re: Adrian [Joe ] Re: Why certain songs were absent from Unplugged...just atheory [ehicks@f] I need the list FAQ ["Shachar Segal" ] Re: Get ready for this one!!!! [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday ] *NJC* ANother post - cuz i feel bad [GRooVe MoNTHLY ] Re: Adrian...Come out or gone in? ["Shachar Segal" ] Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment [deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez)] jewel poster [nibbles1 ] hello anyone there? [GRooVe MoNTHLY ] Re: Fragile Flame ["Andrea .........." ] The Neil Young connection ["Nathan" ] Extra tix for Jones Beach ["Patrick Rubiano" ] Re: Mtv unplugged...it was cool.. [FabCAGal@aol.com] Looking for Erick Grske [Casey Hansen ] Please Read -- The EDA Foundation: A Manifesto of Hope ["Adrian du Ple] NJC: Re: Secret interdimensional procedure for getting off this list [Ant] no care bear stare? ["Austin H. Mandryk" ] Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment [jeweleda@juno.com (Kim R)] Video tapes of Jewel's performances [romarch@juno.com (Grape Woman)] digest [*Sometime to Return* ] Re:Come out or gone in?NJC:Brick [kareng@ici.net (karen gannon)] Re:Unplugged Available [bizmarquee@juno.com (Tony K Tran)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:08:36 -0700 From: smithr@agcs.com Subject: Re: Adrian...Come out or gone in? > My interpretation has always been that Adrian was stable enough to go > home and that, literally, "yellow flowers decorate his bedroom / sign > above his door says 'welcome home'". I just thought it meant what it > said. But then I have all the imagination of a carrot drowning in > peanut butter. > Perhaps you are right..maybe I'm reading too much into it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:13:57 -0700 From: naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) Subject: Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment Jeff...no flame from me. I completely agree with you on all counts. You're right on about the choice of songs, and that's why I don't believe that the performance will make an Unplugged CD. I think that SIBTW, Deep Water, and 1000 Miles would have really made the performance more noteworthy and encompassing of Jewel's musical and lyrical genius. I enjoyed YWMFM, but FG lost its mood and feel, like you said. I think Jewel could have performed a set similar to Hard Rock Live and that would have really showed people her wide range of talent. Thanks for your insightful post :-) Naveen On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:11:26 -0400 Jeffrey Miller writes: >The songs choosen for broadcast weren't her top material. Jewel has >some great, rocking stuff, and some wonderful more "folky" material, but >she seems to have choosen a middle road in the presentation. Notably >absent: SIBTW, Deep Water, 1000 Miles, etc - admittedly older material, but >still, ahem, gems of songs. > >I'm not liking the "rockin'" version of FG much. The "original", on >POY, is very well produced, and is exactly what the song should be. >Changing the song in the hope of making it the third single off of POY only >continues to distance Jewel from her strength as a singer/songwriter, >and lays another brick in the pop star wall. >-Jeffrey- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:30:21 -0400 From: Joshua Baummer Subject: A new tread Hello all, How are you all doing? I have a new tread instead of this "Get to know you thing" Sorry don't flame me it's time for something new. Ok, In the Rolling Stone mag. interveiw there was an earlier picture that had Jewel sitting in her dad's lap. So, my question is, Would you like to see Jewel with purmed curly hair,shorter hair abouve her shoulders or just the way it is. Straight long past the shoulders w/ a little curl? Me personally I like it the way it is but then again Jewel looks beutiful anyway she has her hair ;). Josh An EDA forever. Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:36:10 -0500 From: piper@mclv.net Subject: JC JC! Foolish Games radio sighting!!!!!! I'm just SO excited. As I was driving home today listening to the radio the DJ says, "coming up after the break the new song from jewel that's on the batman soundtrack"... woohoo! So, i waited through the commercials and all that and he says about the same thing again, , and bam, there it was, FG on my radio. Granted, i'd already heard this version before, but it was still that first little bit of excitement you get when you hear something on the radio for the first time... . Then after the song is over, the dj just kinda sighed and said "wow... what a great song"... I wanted to drive over there and hug the guy for saying that... laugh... but i digress... - --Lisa "Music is the soundtrack of your life" --Dick Clark "Hands manifest thought." --Jewel "Jump into my nightmare, the water's warm." --Jerry Maguire "You complete me." --Jerry Maguire Multi-Comm Las Vegas Nv. 208.129.48.2 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:13:59 -0400 From: bedo7@juno.com (Emily S Tate) Subject: Re: thanx a bunch you guys! I feel the same way. When ever I feel a certain way I usually hear a Jewel song that goes with my feelings and then I just start crying. And I feel alot better. You spoke my thoughts. - -Em "In the Bible only angels have wings and the rest must wait to be saved." -Jewel {\o/} /_\ > It seems like her >songs are always there to make you feel *something*whether its >happy,depressed or sad. anyway,i've gone on long enough. > > > > > > > > > ---Arianna > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:48:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarfa@aol.com Subject: re: Snazzy Jewel POY Lyric book for sale at Lilith Fair! & help for the MTVless >Hey y'all, >Just wanted you all to know that a 40 glossy page "Pieces Of You" lyric >book, including 30 never before seen pictures of Jewel (all in full color) >will be on sale for $15 at all the Lilith Fair shows that Jewel will be >in. It will also be available at the headlining shows Jewel will be doing >in late August and September :) >In addition to all the lyrics to the songs from the "Pieces Of You", it >will have the lyrics to Flower Flower?? Maybe this means that Jewel will be more willing to play it at concerts. That would rock!! Well, I can dream, can't I? ;) If anyone who taped Unplugged and Hard Rock Live would like to help out one of the 10 people in America without cable by dubbing these shows for me, I would gladly pay for a tape or tapes, postage, and a little extra for your trouble! Thanks and so long, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 16:46:04 -0700 From: deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez) Subject: Re: NJC: AAAAAH! *thump* On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:19:27 -0400 The Quiet Angel writes: >I just got up from the floor (I'll explain) I cannot beleive this. >Yesterday afternoon I set my VCR (like all other EDAs did) and left >for >a night of city roaming. Well I returned home at about 11:30pm and I >see >my mother's tenant (she rented a room to him) laying on the couch >watching a baseball game. He's never done this before and I never >anticipated this possibilty. Well the first thing I thought was "Oh >no! >JEWEL!" but before I exploded, I asked him how long he had been >watching >tv, he said that he had been there since 8. 8!?! That's when the room >started spinning, I dropped the Details magazine I had bought, and >then >everything went black. > I finally have regained conciousness (what day is it?) and in case >you're concerned, the magazine is ok. I am outraged! I cannot beleive >this happened to me (but I'm not surprised)!!! I now have to wait till >it reairs... *pathetic sob* > Well the shock is settling in now. *pitch rises* I should go >*sniff* > >*sob* The Quiet Angel *sob* >*bawl* Abel *tear storm* > > If anyone needs the taping I'll send it for it seems a lot of people had troubles with it. I taped it three times setting all my VCR's so that I didn't screw it up and also I was taping for other people. Anyone need it I'll send it to them. Sincerely, Ripiano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 17:40:04 -0600 From: ehicks@flash.net Subject: Re: NJC: Carnivore...observation/question > > Hey, who said you have to be a vegetarian to be a hippie? I'm a > > dedicated carnivore, but I'm also a pacifist and an artist. Is that > > really so unusual? > > ...and for that matter, who said one had to be an alternative person (or > hippie, if you MUST abuse that word) to be a vegetarian? I myself am a > veg, and although my hair is long, it's freshly washed :) Ok, let me clear up what I said, cuz a lot of people are taking it the wrong way. Of course, that happens a lot since i never make a whole lotta sense. :) What I said was "She has a lot of... how could I say it... umm... hippie-like beliefs, I mean, in the way she views the world and the environment. A lot of the people that share these beliefs are vegetarians." That's EXACTLY what I said!!! I said hippie-like beliefs because I didn't know how else to describe it. I didn't say everyone who shared these types of beliefs and morals are vegetarians, and I didn't say you have to be a hippie to be a vegetarian. Ok???? It's just common that she attracts vegetarian-type people... is that better? Anyway... *hugs* Emily ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: *NJC* Heat = Hostility alright.. there's someone on this list that thinks i'm pissed off and want to shoot them or something but it's all not true.... ok it's burning hot here... the person that promised they'd hang out with me yesterday didn't and said they'd hang out with me today, but hasn't called me back yet and now it's too late to do what i planned (go to a movie with my friends) not to mention i was sposed to sit in and watch this video with my friend kelly before i had to bring it back to pathmark but no she went swimming instead - didn't even bother to tell me... then someone calls me to laugh in my face and tell me that they met this girl who they know i hate with all the passion in the world and then they proceeded to tell me that they think she looks better than me.. (and i swear to god someone must have told him that when someone tells me someone i hate looks better than me that it pisses me off to no end) so i feel like shit and i came online.. and i took my shit out on someone else... but then again the person contributed in a way - i don't like being pressured into things - i have my own time limit - i do things the best way I know how and i don't like being pressured into it. so i have nothing else to say but that i'm sorry to that person... and if you all wanna know who he is wave hi to Mark.. *wave* hi mark... i would normally write a poem and hope it helps but i really can't.. i feel like punching a wall i am just so aggravated... ttyl - -linda p.s. like scroll down and read my whole tag _\|/_ o o ...ooo....(_)....ooo..................................................... | | | | Linda E. MacIntyre | "do you hate him, 'cause he's pieces | | brownie@tsb.inet-images.com | of you?" - jewel "pieces of you" | | Editor - the angel's virtual | | | poetry collection | "your love is better than ice cream, | | and | better than anything else that i've | | GRooVe MoNTHLY | tried. - sarah mclachlan "ice cream" | | | | | check out the web page - | "if i shed a tear, i won't cage it - | | http://www.geocities.com/ | i won't fear love." | | SunsetStrip/Towers/5094 | - sarah mclachlan "fumbling toward | |(sorry while we are renovating)| ecstasy" | |...............................|.......................................| | | | lindalovesmarklindalovesmarklindalovesmarklindalovesmarklindalovesmark| |.......................................................................| ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 07:58:23 -0700 From: Joe Subject: Re: Adrian >ok...I got into a discussion about this on #jewel yesterday.. >the song Adrian...by JEWEL, of course.. >The way I understand it, Adrian gets in a canoe accident, and >becomes paralized, comatose...whatever...but...the debate is.. >there's a line talking about 'his bedroom is decorated with >yellow flowers', and 'a sign above his door says welcome home'. >To me, this symbolizes a grave...kinda....but I'm not sure.. As a mental health worker, I can give you fairly accurate information about this type of thing...It is proven that mentally retarded individuals (which Adrian clinically was after his canoe accident) are further stimulated by bright colors and colorful environments. It is much like when you decorate a room for a new baby. You should decorate in bright colors to stimulate the brain to function at a higher level. I don't know if thats what Jewel had in mind when she wrote the song, but that is the way I have always viewed it. Futher, I don't at all believe that this was a symbol of his death. The song clearly states that "Still she sat by his side, and said, life, he won't be denied". This leads me to believe that many people believed he should not be living, but this female character in the song had a more objective view of the subject and decided that no matter what the condition of Adrian's mental capabilities, she was not going to let him die (possibly because the character believes that it should be Adrian's choice to die if he wants to dies, and being mentally retarded at his state, he is probably not legally allowed to chose this, futher, he may have a guardian, and that would be the decision of that conscenting guardian, unless Adrain contested that he was capable of making reasonable and just decisions in a court). WHEW! Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 17:52:00 -0600 From: ehicks@flash.net Subject: Re: Why certain songs were absent from Unplugged...just atheory > Third: > I believe that certain songs were left off the show because they are the > strongest contenders for the first singles from Jewel #2. That would be > "Carnivore", "Sometimes It Be That Way", "1,000 Miles Away", and "Deep > Water". These songs have "monster hit" written all over them. They are > amongst the most powerful songs in Jewel's repetoire and to put them on the > MTV show would have diluted their impact on the next album. Well, maybe. But I remember about 5 or 6 months back when there was a poll on what everyone thought the first single should be on the next album. Of course, that was when we still thought that it would be out in early '97, but still... anyway... There was something that said that Satellite was the likely first single. She still played this on Unplugged, and I still think it will be released as a single. It would probably be much more successful than something like 1000 Miles Away. 1000 Miles just doesn't seem to have "monster hit" written all over it. But that's just IMO. *hugs* Emily ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 03:08:50 +0300 From: "Shachar Segal" Subject: I need the list FAQ Could someone remind me how to suscribe to this list so I can tell a friend, or better yet, send the message one gets when one first subscribes to it, so I can file it? Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:10:40 EDT From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: Re: Get ready for this one!!!! >dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick) wrote: > >At Rockfest, the 15 hour, 13 bands, 400,000+ fans, largest concert event of >all-time.....JEWEL was the ***only*** performer to say a cuss word in front >of the many cameras, MTV, VH-1, radio broadcasts, fans, etc.!!!!!! >How about *that*?!!! It was a good one too! Something like..."It's so >F*cking hot!" I just found this interesting...the angelic Jewel, being the >only one cussing on stage that day. Needless to say, she won over a bunch >of the crowd. So I guess it worked. Didn' Gwen Stefani cuss? I saw the VH1 special where she was doing "Just a Girl" and I thought I heard her cuss. Mark - --- Inside my heart there's an empty room. It's waiting for lightning; it's waiting for you. - --Jewel "Absence of Fear" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:11:27 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: *NJC* ANother post - cuz i feel bad ok i want to announce to all of you out here on the jewel mailing list... i want to announce to all of you Every Day Angels..... i want you all to know this.... and MARK YOU BETTER BE WATCHING... I LOVE MARK WITH ALL MY HEART FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND I DON"T WANT HIM BEING MAD AT ME CUZ IT MAKES ME FEEL SAD AND I DON'T WANT TO LOSE HIM :( that's sparks everyone - sparksmark@juno.com - he stole my heart and if it wasn't for Jewel and this mailing list i wouldn't love the guy so much... thanks for your time - -linda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:36:45 -0400 (EDT) From: NEILER1@aol.com Subject: Jewel unplugged tape Hi does anybody have a copy of he Mtv unplugged last night with I couldnt watch it and I taped the wrong chanel. E-mail me well work something out ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:38:02 -0400 From: Damian Subject: CityTV! Well I don't know if this has been reported yet, but City TV in Toronto will air the MTV Movie Adwards for us canucks! I think it's gonna be on Friday at 9:00pm or something eastern time. WOOHOO! Damian Nguyen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 03:45:10 +0300 From: "Shachar Segal" Subject: Re: Adrian...Come out or gone in? > ok...I got into a discussion about this on #jewel yesterday.. > the song Adrian...by JEWEL, of course.. > > The way I understand it, Adrian gets in a canoe accident, and > becomes paralized, comatose...whatever...but...the debate is.. > there's a line talking about 'his bedroom is decorated with > yellow flowers', and 'a sign above his door says welcome home'. > > To me, this symbolizes a grave...kinda....but I'm not sure.. To my understanding, Adrian gets somewhat better over time and is released from the hospital with severe brain damage and Mary Apperson continues to visit him at home even though she got married (to someone else) in the meantime. Shachar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:10:18 -0700 From: deanorez@juno.com (Gerard D Perez) Subject: Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:45:38 -0700 naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) writes: >On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:42:05 -0400 sammy3@ix.netcom.com writes: >>Do you think that MTV will make an Unplugged CD with Jewel? I really >>hope so because most of the songs she sang isn't on the "Pieces of >You" CD. > >As much as I wish they would, I doubt it. Jewel's performance on >Unplugged last night was decent, but IMO not good enough to be >made an album. If you look at other bands that have an Unplugged >CD ( 10000 Maniacs and Nirvana ), you will see that their performance >on Unplugged was one of the best performances of their career and >was a perfect example of what the band exemplified. The songs from >these bands had also been released by the time of their Unplugged >performance so people knew it right away and enjoyed it. I would >venture that most people who saw Unplugged last night were not >familiar with the songs Jewel sang, and the audience and TV viewers, >other than deep Jewel fans got really into the performance. For that >reason, I don't think we will see an Unplugged CD of Jewel, at least >not for now. If one is ever released, I think it will only come after >one >or two more albums have been released, or until the songs that she >sang on Unplugged are released on one of Jewel's albums. > >Just my .02 > >Naveen I raise you a .01, I personally think they will produce and release the recording probably a few months after the release of her new album next year. Viacom only thinks of money and Jewel's next album is a guaranteed platinum seller. So why not reap off her success for a cheap production cost?... I thought the song choices were fine. The main thing was that she hasn't played them on television so that gives the non-Jewel loving, channel surfing audience who are tired of WWSYS and YWMFM a different look of her. I know for a fact that the "Yo, MTV Raps" and "MTV Jams" audience really took notice of Jewel's vocal abilities because I got calls from friends to give them copies of the show because of it. (My answering machine was filled with mesages ranging from, "Damn, that girl can sing!" to "Are you sure her mother ain't black?") ... Like what she says in her Acoustic Guitar World issue, "What you see in the future will be very different. I'm at the beginning of my growth process." She's trying to change the mass audience's perception that she is this "Pop Star" that sings teenage folk songs about puppy love and heartache. WE know she is a deep song writer with a lot to offer both vocally and spiritually but what about the other 3 billion people on this planet? I hope she goes nuts with her next album. I'm sure all of us sense she's going to get jazzy on a couple of tracks and she'll have one or two ballads with classically influenced arrangements. But aren't most of us hoping she puts on a punk-flavored track with a 32-note speed solo distorted with fuzz and wah? You can sense she's aching to break her typical folk mold a little... If Viacom was smart they'd release her Unplugged show. But if they were REALLY smart they'd release the show as a double CD with Hard Rock Live....I predict another quadruple-platinum seller. Sincerely, Ripiano ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 20:08:47 -0500 From: nibbles1 Subject: jewel poster Hey EDA's, Anyone ever seen a poster of Jewel? I looked through about four music stores and found nothing. I was just thinking how great it would be to see a picture of Jewel everytime I walked into my room. - -Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 21:20:14 -0400 (EDT) From: GRooVe MoNTHLY Subject: hello anyone there? i haven't gotten any mail in the past hour? is anyone out there? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:50:44 PDT From: "Andrea .........." Subject: Re: Fragile Flame it's not a wav but it's real audio.... http://members.aol.com/jewelpage/index.html hope this helps! drea :) >From owner-jewel@smoe.org Wed Jun 25 12:09:01 1997 >Received: from jane.smoe.org (smoe.org [204.167.97.154]) by shore.shore.net (8.8.3/8.8.2) with SMTP id PAA02340; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:08:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from localhost by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id OAA19861; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:57:30 -0400 >Received: by jane.smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.5); Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:56:26 -0400 >Received: by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id OAA18940; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:27:27 -0400 >Received: from pimaia2w.prodigy.com by jane.smoe.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) > id OAA18918; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:27:04 -0400 >Received: from mime3.prodigy.com (mime3.prodigy.com [192.168.253.27]) > by pimaia2w.prodigy.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA92500 > for ; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:25:56 -0400 >Received: (from root@localhost) by mime3.prodigy.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) id OAA09608 for jewel@smoe.org; Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:21:30 -0400 >Message-Id: <199706251821.OAA09608@mime3.prodigy.com> >X-Mailer: Prodigy Internet GW(v0.9beta) - ae01dm04sc03 >From: AMXD99A@prodigy.com (MISS ANAIS NIN) >Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 14:21:30, -0500 >To: jewel@smoe.org >Subject: Fragile Flame >Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org >Precedence: bulk > >Does anyone know where I could obtain a .wav of Fragile Flame? It >would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks, >J. Caroline - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 21:58:03 +0000 From: "Nathan" Subject: The Neil Young connection I posted this a few days ago and no one replied. I am really curious about this so I'm reposting it now... It's common knowledge that Neil played a vital role in the recording of "Pieces of You", but how did he come to play that role? Was he among audience members at the Innerchange? Do record companies often send him tapes of young talent saying, "Oh Neil you've got to hear this!"? How did Jewel and Neil connect? Does anyone know the missing link in the story? Please enlighten an otherwise well-informed angel. Thanks. Nathan dogslife@bigfoot.com "Being a man leaves me cold: that's how it is." -Pablo Neruda ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:01:03 PDT From: "Patrick Rubiano" Subject: Extra tix for Jones Beach Hey folks.... I MAY have two extra tickets to the Jones Beach headliner on August 31 in New York. The seats are not together, but they are right behind each other. The tickets are ORCH F, rows OO and PP, seats 27 (both rows). I will ask only what I paid for them ($37 each). Anyone who's interested, please e-mail me privately. Thanks, Patrick - --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - --------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:09:41 -0400 (EDT) From: FabCAGal@aol.com Subject: Re: Mtv unplugged...it was cool.. In a message dated 97-06-25 19:45:34 EDT, egarvey@prairienet.org (Emilia Garvey) writes: << Well guys, this is gonna be short.. All I wanted to say is that passing time is a song that kind of describes my life..it is now my favorite....ok guys, gotta go.:) Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey A.K.A Gladys The Annoying Interrupting Cow _ >> Me too! Man-D ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 19:03:36 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Looking for Erick Grske Dude, I need to hear from you and I lost your Email! Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 02:38:47 -0700 From: "Adrian du Plessis" Subject: Please Read -- The EDA Foundation: A Manifesto of Hope I was thinking as I rode my bike back from town this afternoon as I sometimes do (think that is -- I ALWAYS ride my bike). Along the road I stopped to watch a newly emerged butterfly drying its wings before it took its first flight. I directed it off the road to the shoulder where cars wouldn't flatten it. Next there was a slug that was traversing the road and I watched to see it slide across safely (they can move faster than you realize!). If anyone wants to make up a version of netiquette for slugs and other small creatures -- please note they could definitely do with some instructions on how to avoid cars (take the snakes that like to warm themselves on the sun heated tarmac). I was thinking about the EDA Foundation and how it's a good idea. A really good idea. It's been posted before and the topic has been raised but it's yet to really take root on this list (off the list it's germinating). There's no one who enjoys the spontaneous, anarchic and -- if you consider the hairy-chested/popsicle/g-string posts -- downright kookybaka inclinations and nature of the EDA community more than me. (That's 'coz we're all equals.) And I know the thought of an organization is anathema to some. But just as the EDA Gift (the James Paul Kalanick fundraising efforts) didn't stop the EDA guitar picks from happening, or the Jewel of the North star gift, or the wishes or the poems and cards, the good deeds in the community (the trash cleanups, the blood-giving by brave souls etc.) or any of the other meaningful and individualistic EDA expressions from finding form, there's no reason that the forming of the EDA Foundation will in any way diminish the free spirits that exist here. We can all continue to be as we are and to celebrate Jewel and radical anti-cynicism however we want and feel best. But if there's no reason to NOT have an EDA Foundation, there are good reasons why there SHOULD BE an EDAF. Organizations like the SPCA, Greenpeace or RAINN (or any others you know and like better) started with a seed -- a purpose for being. And with care and nurturing they grew to help others and to achieve their life's purpose. And even a slug knows it's not easy surviving. One reason to plant this idea now is the fact that one day, all of us present EDAs are just going to be like stars twinkling in the night-sky. The recent close-call of Bob Dylan and the tragic death of Jeff Buckley -- as well as the losses of loved ones that we know among close friends and family -- remind us that the thread of life is very fragile. Wouldn't it be the truest expression of what brings us all together if we created something that will live on after we as individuals can no longer perform our "random acts of kindness"? To build something that will always be there to help others left damaged by hit-and-run accidents, or left homeless by floods or earthquakes, or beaten down by any of the things that can happen to people as they try and make it through each day? The EDAF can become a symbol of hope and a reminder to all that goodness still lives inside of each and everyone of us. I'm reminded of the idealistic intention of the Beatles when they started Apple Records. (I know it's a company not a society or charity but it was conceived of more purely than that.) Their vision was limited more to the artistic -- but they saw Apple as a way to free musicians from the confines of the corporate music world, to discover and foster worthy talent. They even poured money into the inventions of a character named Magic Alex (but that's another story). Ultimately, though, they had no organizational management and their dreams could not take flight. (There was also a matter of great personal distrust and enmity at the time between Paul and his in-laws, the Eastmans, on one side, and John, Paul and George and manager Allen Klein on the other -- but that, too, is another story although it does point out that one must be careful to build an organization on foundations of honesty and trust.) The Apple idea was good but it could not be fully realized because of a lack of organizational structure. Their goal of an artistic well-spring trickled down into the muddied puddle of the record business. (BTW, the Beatles had devoted fans who were called "Apple Scruffs" and George wrote a song dedicated to them.) I loathe the word hierarchy. That is, I did, until I looked it up in the dictionary this afternoon and found the primary definition of hierarchy is: "a division of angels". An Every Day Angel Foundation could restore a positive connotation to concepts (like hierarchies) that have been given a bad name by the practices of some in business and politics. The EDAF -- a democratic, egalitarian foundation based upon compassionate principles - -- could practice humanism at all levels. As a non-profit society or charitable organization the EDAF could sponsor and hold events (e.g. concerts) and fund-raisers to benefit people in communities around the world. Obviously it would start small and not over-extend itself, growing through time and taking flight as its wings found strength -- until "Light and fragile and feathered sky blue/ Thin and graceful, the sun shining through/ She flies so high up in the sky/ Way out of reach of human eyes." You have to plant things when the earth is ready. This summer EDAs will be getting together at Lilith Fair dates, at smaller gatherings like STARRY NIGHT and on this list. Let's all keep doing what we do in other ways, but what better season than now to come together and make the EDA Foundation a reality. Bob Marley sang about how every time he planted a seed the sheriff said "kill it before it grows". Well, as we know, that situation caused a lot of grief for everyone and little good came of it (except for Eric Clapton who found his career rejuvenated, but that's REALLY another tale). The point is, by our free natures let's not kill this seed before it grows. It needs our help to grow up and be strong enough to survive. All EDAs who want to help create something that, in addition to our own individual actions, will share the spirit of this list with the rest of the world please contact Mr BB (Alan Bershaw), or Mike Connell or Crunch or the other wonderful list members who have posted about the EDAF in the past. And let's figure out, collectively, how to cross that road. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:27:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Antonio Greaney Delgado Subject: NJC: Re: Secret interdimensional procedure for getting off this list On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, the sacrilicious Kris Kane banged his head against the ceiling revealing the following message in Morse code > At 11:03 PM 6/24/97 -0400, someone wrote: > >how do i get off this list. > > Have you noticed that all of Jewel's songs are copyrighted "Wiggly Tooth"? I > have to whisper this part ... (begin whisper) ... That's a secret code, > indicating the manner in which you can extracate yourself from this wicked > web ... (end whisper) ... [and so on and so on.] There is, in fact, a much simpler way of getting off the list... ...stop standing on your computer. [Kneep! ducks the flying vegetables.] All right, I'm going to go search through the archived digests to figure out this G-string thing... Kneep! Spice Arsh! --Jennifer Terran ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:34:48 -0400 From: "Austin H. Mandryk" Subject: no care bear stare? just quick note ... y'all with recordings can check this out, but interesting that she didn't care bear stare her cute-as-a-belly button during her unplugged 'foolish games' heart-spill. i think it's the first time she declined to do so on national tv. at any rate ... the real reason i wrote was: >5. Who Will Save Your Soul (Joshua Redman + band) >6. Last Dance Rodeo pretty sure that Joshua also played oboe here ... which really suited into this song's shadow. also ... i thought 'last dance rodeo' was quite a nifty song and fit right in with the lot and was complimented quite well by the background ensemble and atmosphere specific to her 'unplugged' set (a possible reason it was introduced here). i wonder if by taking it out of the 'trash can' she displaced another song w/ similar lyrics/concepts. i have it on a vcr cassette and am putting some songs in real audio (fuzzy mono if you don't mind). so if you live in a region that won't get this show aired, you can preview the songs while you wait for a tape from someone (i can't dub another w/o 2 vcr's). so just mail me (privately please) and i'll be sure to quicken my pace. course ... if this violates any rules, tell me now, eh. - -Austin __________________________ Austin H. Mandryk mandryk@scasd.k12.pa.us eforest.org/~mandryk/ imagine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:37:04 EDT From: jeweleda@juno.com (Kim R) Subject: Re: MTV Unplugged Disappointment On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 18:13:57 -0700 naveenrao@juno.com (Naveen Rao) writes: >Jeff...no flame from me. I completely agree with you on all counts. >You're right on about the choice of songs, and that's why I don't >believe that the performance will make an Unplugged CD. I >think that SIBTW, Deep Water, and 1000 Miles would have really >made the performance more noteworthy and encompassing of >Jewel's musical and lyrical genius. >I enjoyed YWMFM, but FG lost its mood and feel, like you said. >I think Jewel could have performed a set similar to Hard Rock Live >and that would have really showed people her wide range of talent. >Thanks for your insightful post :-) > >Naveen I definately think Deep Water would have been a good song since she hasn't played that yet but I think she was trying to show audiences more of her songs.. she already did SIBTW and 1000 Miles Away so why not try other songs that haven't been on tv yet... why do the same (or similar) set to Hard Rock Live when you have a chance to show more of your material... if she had done the other material there still wouldn't be an unplugged cd since it will all be on her next cd... be thankful she did other material when she had the chance... I've got enough versions of SIBTW and 1000 Miles Away to last me till her album FINALLY comes out.... >On Wed, 25 Jun 1997 10:11:26 -0400 Jeffrey Miller >writes: > >>The songs choosen for broadcast weren't her top material. Jewel has >>some great, rocking stuff, and some wonderful more "folky" material, >but >>she seems to have choosen a middle road in the presentation. Notably >>absent: SIBTW, Deep Water, 1000 Miles, etc - admittedly older >material, but >>still, ahem, gems of songs. >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:05:57 EDT From: romarch@juno.com (Grape Woman) Subject: Video tapes of Jewel's performances Hi everyone, The video tape maker here! =) I forgot to add in my other post that I can't make tapes after July 8th. So I'll need to hear from anyone interested before then. :) Thank you bunches. =) Sharon "You're nothing but beautiful..." - -'Angel Standing By' by Jewel ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 22:05:24 -0500 (CDT) From: *Sometime to Return* Subject: digest Does anyone know how I can switch over to the digest format...? Thanks.. heart, Dancer :) "I can go where no one else can go...I know what no one else knows..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:09:55 +0100 From: kareng@ici.net (karen gannon) Subject: Re:Come out or gone in?NJC:Brick I think this is just another sign that Adrian is an incredible song. Without spelling it out completely, Jewel created a mood that lends itself to different meanings and feelings. I lent PoY to a friend who graduated, and what I have live doesn't have Adrian (if anyone has a tape with a live version, I'd love to get a copy) so I haven't heard Adrian in a while (show some pity, please). But if I remember, I'd always thought those lines, with others, showed the contrast between before and after. The death interpretation can fit solo and with my original thought, so its doubly valid in my mind. NJC: Does anyone know the song Brick, by Ben Folds Five? If you do, what's your interpretation on the lyrics. My friends and I think it's about a guy (Ben?) who gets his girlfriend pregnant and how the abortion comes between them. You can take it further by pointing out common threads in a couple of the new songs, but that would be too long to put on the list. Sorry for the length: total and NJC > The way I understand it, Adrian gets in a canoe accident, and > becomes paralized, comatose...whatever...but...the debate is.. > there's a line talking about 'his bedroom is decorated with > yellow flowers', and 'a sign above his door says welcome home'. > > To me, this symbolizes a grave...kinda....but I'm not sure.. - ---------------------------------END-------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 23:22:28 -0400 From: bizmarquee@juno.com (Tony K Tran) Subject: Re:Unplugged Available Mike, Sorry to rain on your parade but I dont think its wise to distribute any copies of Mtv Unplugged because its liscenced material and i think MTV is probably make the Jewel Unplugged cd so i wouldnt distribute it on Audio Tape!! I was thinking of doing the same thing but i remember Jewel and Nedra telling us not to distribute commercial items. =( Either way, i just wanted to add my .02 if you continue i dont mind i just hope you dont get slapped with a lawsuit! =( Im also ready to get flamed too. - -Tony "I was thinking that i might fly today...." -jewel ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #486 ***************************