From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #340 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Wednesday, May 7 1997 Volume 02 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: NJC: song dedication/Georgy Girl [jprenzel@evansville.net] Re: Good bye ["~The Saint~" ] Raffle Update: First check got a bonus prize [Victor Igor Wasylczenko ] Dolby critiqued by a "recovering" Audiophile [Kris Kane ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 23:00:39 -0500 From: jprenzel@evansville.net Subject: Re: NJC: song dedication/Georgy Girl jprenzel@evansville.net wrote: > > Bethany Thompson wrote: > > > > > > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > > >Wow. I can't believe someone on this list has actually heard of "The > > >Seekers." I always used to say, that "Georgy Girl" was written for me. > > >It describes me perfectly. I used to call myself a "Georgy Girl". Still > > >do. Thanx 4 responding. Really nice to meet another Seekers fan. > > > > >Peace, > > >Jessica > > >(Georgy Girl) > > > > My dad used to sing Georgy Girl to me when I was about three. :-) > > > > Helen > > > > ps you know they have all been paid AUS$1 million each to reform just recently, > > don't you?? > > No, I didn't know that. I didn't even know if they were still alive or > not. Neat. ta! > Peace, > Jessica ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 23:06:57 +0000 From: "~The Saint~" Subject: Re: Good bye > From: jprenzel@evansville.net > Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:04:44 -0500 > Reply-to: jprenzel@evansville.net > To: saint@sioux-lookout.Lakeheadu.Ca > Cc: jewel@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Good bye > I do understand. People will write a whole freaking page just on how > their day went, and that bores me, but I don't get frustrated. I just > delete it. I guess, they just need to vent every once in a while. > By the way, please tell me how I can get on the Melissa Etheridge list. > I absolutely adore Melissa. She's such an inspiration to me. Please > e-mail me back. > > Peace, > Jessica > Cool! Melissa Rocks!!! All the info you need is at: http://www.ecw.ca/mle/ Thanks for writting:) Peace, Stephanie St. Amand www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3028 www.angelfire.com/ca/bridgadoa/index.html May the wind always be at your back and the ground under foot. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 21:02:21 -0700 From: Victor Igor Wasylczenko Subject: Raffle Update: First check got a bonus prize On Friday, I received the first check for the raffle sent to me on behalf of the JPK Trust. It was from Jerome Burgos. Because his check was the first, he gets an unannounced prize. This doesn't exclude him from the drawing. It is only a bonus. He was given a copy of Request magazine Sept 96 issue with Jewel on the cover and a feature article inside. RAFFLE DRAWING DATE EXTENDED: Reason 1 On Sunday morning I took a last look at my email. There were so many people still asking how they could enter the raffle and so many last minute entries, I had to postpone the drawing. I wanted to give everybody a chance to enter and be a part of this event to raise money for James Kalanick. Every person that entered by sending me email, had a printed copy delivered to James at BagelBash. He struggled to lift his hands to read some of the letters. He held onto them as if they were treasures. It was all a big surprise for him. All he knew was that he was going to meet some of his former co-workers. His father was in on the surprise. But he wasn't prepared to see all the strangers pouring out their hearts for his son. He wants to send a personal thank you to each and every one of you that donated to his son's goal. RAFFLE DRAWING DATE EXTENDED: Reason 2 Several people have offered to donate more items for the raffle. We may have tickets for Lilith Fair donated. I need to confirm the details. Anyone that has an extra of a rare Jewel CD or cassette, consider donating it for this good cause. DRAWING FOR RAFFLE WILL BE HELD AT JAVA JOE'S MAY 15th On Thursday, May 15, EDAs are taking James Kalanick out for some fun and music. We are going to have him join us for a evening with Gregory Page at Java Joe's. Please join us for this special night. I'm going to have Joe draw the winners for the raffle. This means that you can still send me email telling me how many tickets I should include with your name. Each ticket is $1. You can enter as many tickets as you would like. After I get your email, it gets printed. I give your letter a number. That number is put on the back of as many tickets as you order. The tickets are put in a box. When I get your check, I match it up with your email and notify ride tally with the amount. Then I send your email address to Tom Morales so he can contact you about the tape he is making for everyone that enters. If anyone has gotten tapes with Maxell credits or in any other way that has given them a surplus, consider donating some as prizes so Tom can start taping right away. He has a lot of tapes to make. He could use some help. Since I am the only one handling the tickets, I'm excluded from winning any prizes. No one besides me and Liz know who donated and what amount. But I will have two EDAs review all the tickets in a manner as to keep everything confidential. Java Joe will also be excluded from winning any prizes. Send me email with your pledged amounts. Igor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: EDAShirt@aol.com Subject: !!! Finally - the "Official" EDA Shirt is here !!! The EDA Shirt is here!!! Finally, The T-Shirt Guy (tm) has returned with a new, better than ever "Official" EDA T-Shirt. Last year, the Everyday Angels wanted to make a shirt so we could easily spot each other at concerts. Designs were submitted, idea were exchanged. I became The T-Shirt Guy (tm) and was in charge of the project. Then the EDA world was turned upside-down with the announcement of JewelStock. The JS shirt satisfied the need and the EDA shirt was put aside. People never forgot, however, and have been asking me when was I going to finish the EDA shirt. Well, now I have my act together and a new design (which has Jewel and Lenedra's blessing) and I am ready to make the shirt available to the list. The shirt can be viewed and ordered over the web at http://www.cybercom.net/~pjk/EDA or if you do not have web access simply email at this address for all the information on the shirt (design, ordering, etc.). If you would also like a jpeg of the design just ask. If you have any questions feel free to email me. Thanks, Phil (The T-Shirt Guy) Kelnhofer ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:11:55 -0400 (EDT) From: SDAngelLI@aol.com Subject: Re: NJC: Tapes, Forgiveness, Blood Donations and All That Jazz... In a message dated 97-05-05 01:13:28 EDT, you write: > make friends Well ghee, that's a tall order :-) SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 00:16:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Javert1815@aol.com Subject: All the Angelfood I can get... Hey all fellow EDAs, I was wondering if you guys could help me out by telling me where I can get Angelfood, I am trying to collect all the Jewel songs I can get my hands on and all I have so far is "Pieces of You and "You Were Meant For Me" (single with "Foolish Games"). Please help me out if you can, please please please please please? Thanks so much in advance, Everyday Angels, Joe Javert1815@aol.com http://members.aol.com/Javert1815/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 21:32:53 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: poster! Cory Hull wrote: > > does anyone know were i can get a poster of jewel, a clothed one > that is! :) > > Cory I would settle for either! (J/K) Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 23:35:08 -0400 From: Kris Kane Subject: Dolby critiqued by a "recovering" Audiophile Hello EDAs, The recent postings regarding the pros and cons of Dolby prompted me to consult a friend who I respect as a very knowledgable audiophile. I'll copy it for those of you who are interested. Kris Kane **************************************************** > Hello Barton, > Some friends of mine on the Jewel mailing list have been discussing > various audio technicalities related to our dubbing tapes of her > concerts. I was wondering what your opinion is on these matters. Kris, Always a delight to hear from you. I now refer to myself as a recovering audiophile. I've progressed to the point where I can actually be swayed by music on a car radio, without an impulse to criticize the speaker system. I just listen to the music. Nevertheless, the discussion you sent me brought back memories of the days when I would argue points like that for pages on pages. And, alas, you've engendered a page-on-page response from me, as you'll see. Here's a summary of the tape-duping methods under discussion, as I read them: a. Play Dolby-encoded source tapes with decoding off on both source and target decks, thus recording the encoded signal onto the target deck. b. Play Dolby-encoded source tapes with decoding on, thus recording the "pure" decoded signal onto the target deck. Re-encode the signal with Dolby encoding on the target deck. c. Quit using Dolby encoding altogether. On close inspection, we can agree that methods A and C are logically identical. If you start with a Dolby-encoded tape and you dub it with Dolby off, you have method A. If you start with a non-encoded tape and dub it with encoding off, you have method C. In both cases, Dolby is off on both source and target decks. The only difference is whether you're starting with an encoded tape or not. If you're in the process of dubbing a tape that someone else has given you, you don't have a choice about its encoding -- that was done by the recording engineer. If you're making your own master tapes, you have to decide whether to make the master with Dolby or not. But when it comes to dubbing the master, the main choice is whether or not to decode the master during the dub. Now, there are many varieties of audiophiles. There's the tweak camp, whose members just love to fiddle with knobs and dials, the more the merrier. There's the engineering camp, who use their $30,000 stereo systems to play test records. Then there's the purist camp who want as few electronics as possible between them and their music. I was solidly in the purist camp, so it surprises me to write that, with the right equipment, I lean toward method B. Or towards A/C. It depends on your equipment. The Case for Method B "Right equipment" in the previous paragraph means having both playback and record decks on which you can adjust the Dolby calibration. As one of the correspondents mentioned, you can calibrate any good deck's Dolby decoding to match a known standard Dolby signal tape. Usually this is no harder than popping in a $20 Dolby signal tape and turning one screw per channel till the output meters reach dead zero (or till they reach the Dolby calibration mark, if zero doesn't correspond to Dolby signal level on a given deck). If both your source and target decks are from different manufacturers and are both calibratable, method B is probably the best. If both your decks are properly adjusted to the standard Dolby signal level, then you've done all you can as a tape dubber. At that point, you have no choice but to trust that the design engineers of your equipment did their best to match the Dolby standards and to otherwise produce an undistorted output signal. Recording method B will minimize any variations in the two manufacturers' Dolby decoding methods. The Case for Method A/C Method A/C would be a good approach if your source and target decks are both high-end, properly calibrated machines of the same model from the same manufacturer. In this case, you can reasonably assume that there are no manufacturer variations in Dolby encoding to filter out. This means it should be safe to duplicate the already-encoded signal onto the target deck, since the source and target decks are twins. In the right circumstances, this is the more purist approach, because you're doing less to the signal as it passes from source to target. However, if, as a test, you play a good quality pre-recorded tape on both decks through the same playback system and you hear *any* variation in the two decks' playback, method A is no longer safe. On the other extreme, if your source and target decks have no provision for Dolby calibration, then method A/C is probably safest. This condition is often found in inexpensive two-deck-in-one combos. Remember, methods A and C identically keep Dolby off on both decks. If you start with a Dolby-encoded source tape, this method will produce a Dolby-encoded copy (Method A). If you start with a non-encoded source, you'll make a non-encoded copy (Method B). The Unmentioned Methods To be complete, there are other methods that we should evaluate as well: d. Starting with a Dolby-encoded master, have Dolby on on the source deck but off on the target deck. This method effecively removes Dolby encoding from the source tape to the dubbed tape. e. Starting with a non-encoded master, have Dolby off on the source deck but on on the target deck. This method effectively adds Dolby encoding to the dubbed tape. Methods D and E are non-purist at their heart, and I regard them as highly suspect. If you're going to add Dolby to a tape, do it to the microphone output, not later in the process. =-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Write anytime. And feel free to post this in my name to your mailing list if you think it will help. - -Barton Wright - -bwright@lightborne.com _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ "Everything is holy! everybody's holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is in eternity! Everyman's an angel! ... Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!" from "Footnote To Howl" by Allen Ginsberg _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 21:42:29 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: SO CUTE Redkamel@aol.com wrote: > > ANGELZ > I just wanted to write and twll you a jewel concert story. I went to her > tiny lights tour on 3-22-97 AND I HAD A BLAST. Well, she was talking about > how "Foolish Games" was her 3rd single..and she was talking about how the > stations didn't want to play it because it was to slow. "well, that's what > they said about WWSYSoul and YWMFM so F*** EM ALL" i agree....Jewel is the > best and anyone who disagrees...ARGH > -Symantha 0: ) PREACH ON SISTA! Danke, Casey ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #340 ***************************