From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #310 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Sunday, April 27 1997 Volume 02 : Number 310 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: CASEMAN! [Casey Hansen ] Favorite opening lyrics [John-Eric ] Another website [Joshua Baummer ] Calling out the new guy [Casey Hansen ] Re: We are everyday angels [Kris Kane ] All right [AlJewsky@aol.com] MrBB-If you'd enjoy a Jewel Tour/Poetry Booklet [ABershaw@aol.com] NJC, help please [SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU] Re: Jewel CD [the emperor of smurfs ] NJC:what have we come to? [She Who Is ] RE: JEWEL OF CORSE [Brian Day ] NJC:myowncreativity [chandraj@juno.com (Chandra J Claycamp)] Re: Get the hell out of here JERK! [Cory Hull ] YWMFM single finally in Australia!! ["Bethany Thompson" ] Re: NJC, help please [That Little Voice Inside Your Head ] Re: All right [Greg Dunn ] trollers and flame wars [Matthew Milner ] NJC:Re: All right [rickbond ] Re: AlJewsky [MaXaJoB316@aol.com] NJC: list longevity [Greg Dunn ] NJC : [rickbond ] Re: NJC : [That Little Voice Inside Your Head ] Re: JEWEL OF CORSE [FabCAGal@aol.com] from an oldtimer EDA with wise words :) PLEASE READ [Bond Lauren Delane <] Re:Rugburns song [BeccaTaz2@aol.com] Flame Wars [JABURGOS@CSUPomona.Edu] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 15:21:10 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Re: CASEMAN! AlJewsky@aol.com wrote: > > So we have a jack ass online, > > Dude, I'm sorry but don't waste my time. If you have something half way > interesting to say, I might reply Do you believe this guy, whats his beaf with me? Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 14:54:10 -0700 From: John-Eric Subject: Favorite opening lyrics My favorite opening lyrics from my favorite artists: Jewel: Near You Always: "Please don't say I love you, those words touch me much to deeply, and they make my core tremble" Rugburns: The Ballad of Tommy and Marla: "Tommy was a hessier from the valley" Alanis Morissette: You Learn: "I recommend getting your heart trampled on at any time, and I recommend walking around naked in your living room" Spice Girls: One Of These Girls: "One of these girls is doing her own thing, one of these girls is just not the same, and even though we're all doing our own thing, can't you see we're all playing a game" Later. -- JE P.S. -- Peace is a good thing. Love is even better. Peace is love. Smile. =) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:30:38 -0400 From: Joshua Baummer Subject: Another website Hey EDA's I know this is not a list to give out information about stuff other than Jewel but I have this Jewel site I am not totally done yet and probably never wil be because I am constantly adding and changing things. Could you please check it out. It is at http://www.angelfire.com/pa/PSYCHICS/JEWEL.html Thank You All. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 15:34:09 -0700 From: Casey Hansen Subject: Calling out the new guy Okay, this message is for the Jewsker, but I feel it necessary for the whole list to see my decsion. Ever since his arrival, this list has had nothing but hate mail, and that is not what this list stands for! Al never even had anything good to say in any of his posts. All he does is call people names (including me) and casue trouble. So can't we do something? I'm Calling you out Jew man, you and me on the IRC! Does anybody know of a good chat place to go to for a good web fight that doesn't include this list. He obviously has a problem with me, so I fell I should have the first crack at him! What is your problem? You haven't even introduced yourself and you are already casueing trouble. Why? Do you even like Jewel? So shut up, contribute nicely like everybody eles or get off the list. Danke, Casey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 1997 17:33:12 -0400 From: Kris Kane Subject: Re: We are everyday angels 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it I'd rather see the world from another angle We are everyday angels Be careful with me 'cause I'd like to stay that way _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ "Everything is holy! everybody's holy! everywhere is holy! everyday is in eternity! Everyman's an angel! ... Holy the supernatural extra brilliant intelligent kindness of the soul!" from "Footnote To Howl" by Allen Ginsberg _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:43:25 -0400 (EDT) From: AlJewsky@aol.com Subject: All right To the Everyday Angels, I'd like to officially apoligize. I don't mean to start fights, but I am a passionate person. I love Jewel and America and all sorts of different things. I have a diverse taste and somewhat of a short fuse. I didn't mean to upset people. I thought I was doing you guys a favor, by standing up for what I believe in and defending Jewel and those of us who really love her enough to go half way across the world to see her. Please forgive me if I have offended you. I tried to be a little humorous and sarcastic, so as to not make my messages too serious but they ended up sounding lame and I apoligize. The "mother" and "aunt" comments were supposed to be jokes. In any case, my name is Al, I have loved Jewel for nearly three years. I also like hard rock and jazz and many other sorts of music. I look forward to putting many notes on server and I will do my best not to offend people. But if I disagree with you or if I think what you said is stupid, then I will surely speak my mind, the I feel it necessary. With Love, Al ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:43:43 -0400 (EDT) From: ABershaw@aol.com Subject: MrBB-If you'd enjoy a Jewel Tour/Poetry Booklet Hi, Just wanted to let new people & those that have waited know that we still have a few hundred "Tiny Lights Tour '97" booklets left from Jewel's recent North American Tour. If you'd like one, read on. If you ordered in the last 2 weeks, they are on the way. :-) If you need the instructions, they are reposted below. Best Wishes, Alan This is an informational post regarding the authorized availability of Jewel tour booklets from the recent tour. You are recieving this message because you subscribe to one of the 3 Jewel mailing lists. If this is of no interest to you, simply ignore or delete now. Instructions on ordering Tour Booklets: If you are Canadian, please contact: Gerry Lipnowski at glipnows@qc.bell.ca If you reside outside North America, please contact Terrence Williams at thespis@thespis.com If you live in the USA read on: Hi to all USA EDAs that would like to aquire Jewel's "Tiny Lights Tour '97" booklets that were sold during Jewel's recent tour. These booklets contain poetry, writing, vintage & recent photos as well as info about the tour itself. Here's the instructions. Please follow them EXACTLY in order for this to be as easy as possible for us. Cost of the booklets are $10 in American dollars. (same as at the shows) All booklets will be sent 1st class unless you want & pay for Priority mail. All you need to do is send me a standard size manilla envelope (9.5" x 13") that is self adressed & with at least $1.50 in stamps already on it. (Note: DO NOT use postal meter postage! Only stamps. Add an extra 32 cent stamp for each extra booklet ordered up to 5 booklets.) Include $10 cash (NO CHECKS)or money order for each booklet ordered. We will simply put however many booklets you paid for in the envelope & send it back to you. Its that easy. If you want the booklets faster, you can send a Priority mailer with a $3 stamp on it instead of a manilla envelope with $1.50 on it. If you want more than 5 of them, please use a Priority mailer--I can fit up to ten of them in there. Send your self adressed pre-postaged 9.5" x 13" manilla envelope, with $10 cash (or a $10 money order made out to Alan Bershaw) for each booklet ordered to: Jewel Tour Book c/o MrBB P.O. Box 8147 Berlin,CT 06037-8147 Note: If you prefer to send a money order, thats OK. Just make sure its made out to me. (Do not make it out to Jewel or anyone else!). I will be sending Lenedra a bank check for all booklets ordered each month & if I cannot personally cash your money order, then I cannot send the booklet & must return your order. These booklets are in limited quantities & will not be printed again. I'll keep the list posted if it looks like they'll sell out to prevent having to return any requests. Remember, Amyjo & I volunteered to do this because so many EDAs requested it. Follow the simple instructions. I know this will be painless if you do. :-) If this can be done without a lot of problems, We may set up a similar thing with the leftover tour t-shirts. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:48:49 -0500 (EST) From: SM_KARTALOPO@ACAD.FANDM.EDU Subject: NJC, help please Hey there... OK, like the subject said, this is NJC, so all of you who wanna erase this feel free. ANYWAYS...I need your thoughts and prayers and yada yada yada. OK, I was suppoed to go to a meeting tonight for the campus housing I am supposed to live in for next year. The meeting, according to the email, was sposed to be at 6 tonite. I went to the house, and no one was there. It was all dark. One of the current housemates told me that the director of the houes, Ryan, had send out a second email changing toe date and time to this past tuesday. I never got that email, so I wasn ot there to pick my housing. So now I am majorly screwed for housin because I do not have a room. I tried ot contact the house's director and I tried to email him, but he was nowhere to be found. =( I am majorly stressed about this...stressed bout EVERYTHING...plsa ethose of u who pray pray for me...those of you who don't then pelase do whatever it it u like to do...but I also have 4 evil papers and 2 horrible exams this week. =~( help? anyone have a joke or somtehing to put a smile on my face? argh stres stress stress stephanie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:54:33 -0400 (EDT) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: Re: Jewel CD James Reach wrote: > Jewel has stated in interviews that she recorded 22 songs for "Pieces of You" > but only 15 made it on the CD. I assume of the remaining 7 cuts 2 of them are > "Cold Song" and "Rocker Girl" that are on this "Barnabee" CD. (Emily was not > written until much later). the versions of "Cold Song" and "Rocker Girl" that appear on Phyllis Barnabee were recorded in Juan Patino's NYC apartment and 52nd St. Digital. "Emily" was recorded at WBCN Boston. so to the best of my understanding none of these tracks were taken from the orignal sessions for "Pieces of You". peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: She Who Is Subject: NJC:what have we come to? Somebody out there? Anybody? Please? Help us? What has happened to us? Why are there posts like these on this list? Am I going to have to unsubscribe? What happened to all the Everyday Angels? Please, stop and think about what that word means and about whether you think you deserve to be called an EDA. These two persons are not the only ones, but they are the most recent and the most blatant. > AlJewsky@aol.com wrote: > > > > this way. I think it is wrong what he said, so I feel it is my duty as an > > AMERICAN to speak out against his lunacy. YOU are a jerk for trying to tell > > us how to think. ... I will stick up for anyone who needs it, and that > > goes triple for sticking up for Jewel. So don't tell me how to think, you > > Communist. > Casey Hansen wrote: > > When did this turn into a politicle list, man this is not one of your > lets kiss the Republicans ass day, is it? No! this list is Jewel > content, not the American way, this isn't even a completly American > list, I know there are people from England and Australia probably > thinking your an idiot! As do I and I only live her in as you put it, > the free land, I bet you are one of those people who drinks tomato juice > and has bad phone ethics, god why did you join this list you foobar! I am deeply saddened that I am on a list on which people post stuff like this.... Bless and Be Blessed; spread the Love! Christina ^ ^ ( \ / ) (_ \*/ _) (_ O _) ( s| > < |s ) ( / \ ) (/ / \ \) /angel\ --------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:03:24 -0400 From: Brian Day Subject: RE: JEWEL OF CORSE - ---------- From: Stoney6912@aol.com[SMTP:Stoney6912@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 1997 11:43 PM To: JEWEL@smoe.org Subject: JEWEL OF CORSE >IF YOU HAVENT NOTICED I JUST SIGNED UP YESTERDAY >I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY >THIS ROCKS I would just like to so, good to you. And please don't you all caps, looks like you are yelling. And course is spelt 'course'. =) Later... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:00:22 EDT From: chandraj@juno.com (Chandra J Claycamp) Subject: NJC:myowncreativity HEy angels: I've had these songs that i've written and i have no sort of music to match...if any of you can come up with some sort of tune for one of them I would LOVE to hear it.....or if you just want to make some comments on them then that's cool too...or if you choose to ignore it...i'm fine with that as well...the reason i do this is that i would love to be able to sing them...or atleast have some sort of tune to go along......thanks (send those comment to me cuz there is no sense in bothering 1300 other people about it)! "I used to be a superhero"--Ani DiFranco Chandra (chandraj@juno.com) PS -there are six songs so tell which one you like/dislike and any changes or tunes ************************ Silver Lining 3-24-97 I learned something new An old phrase is true Gray clouds really do Have silver linings I watched the storm It was dark and scary I wanted to go in But something kept me out It came quickly Yet no rain Suddenly I felt Free of any pain *Gray skies are here Yet I know no fear The pain is there But so is the silver lining It seemed to have An eerie silver glow In the clouds the sun Had managed to show What happened is magic I feel so alive Sort of like A building dive *Chorus The wind tore apart The old flowers The one we planted together I stare at torn petals I feel great loss Yet the glow hits the ground And I smile to myself *Chorus I haven’t erased the memories >From my swimming head Sometimes the pain of loss Makes me wish I was dead The storm releases its fury The rain mixes with my tears Those petals wash away But the glow doesn’t disappear. - ------------- Behind 3-12-97 A wise woman once said “I can’t come back You see I Always move forward Never in reverse” Its a saying you should know You should practice what you preach And, babe you preach allot Put your arm in mine And your foot infront not behind. Listen to the sounds of the cars Behind the carriage They are smarter than the old man, Yet get stuck behind. The sounds of you mind That have so long been ignored. They have good noises to make They tell you that your bored. Of listening to how stupid you are By some one who acts like your “lord”. Slowly, Your mind shuts out the thought of looking... Behind. Watch as those cars Now swerve pass the man They now can reach Any part of this land. Amazing what happens When you leave it Behind. Here’s some change Leave him a message You can’t wipe the slate clean With chalk in the eraser. Nor can you run away When you’re tied from the Behind. No more thoughts of looking Behind. You can remember...what is Behind. - ----------------- Windows 4-11-97 I used to love windows. You could see the world A clear view of others Everything was as it seemed. I used to love windows. But now, they just keep me in While you are out there I don’t even get a clear view. This one is shattered Like so many things of mine When I should feel warmth All I get is cold glass. Much like the looks I get from you I used to love windows. People who live in glass houses Shouldn’t throw stones People with glass hearts Should be left alone. Yet when I look out the window And I see you there I can’t go away Unable to stop this stare. I keep a window open For you to come in. But all I end up with Are bugs on my skin I used to love windows. - ------------------ I Feel 2-19-97 Sometime I feel the weight of the world on my shoulders A part of me dies When I look at you Only in silence Can there be peace in me For sometimes I feel A brick wall when I speak *And I feel We should be together I feel that you and me Should be sometime Sometimes I feel The world spin all around me I put down my head Trying to make it stop. But I see your face in the blur all around me And it only spins faster around No matter what I try I can’t keep you away Out of my mind Out of my heart I feel its self-destructive But you keep it going What can I do what can I say except I Love you *Chorus Sometimes I feel that I know what they mean When they say So close yet so far away I’m so near I could touch you Yet, I know I can’t Because you don’t know I want to Or just don’t want me to. I feel there’s no longer anything you give to me Like what once help me What kept me alive. *Chorus - ----------------- A Void 3-24-97 Some say the truth hurts More than you could know When you told them You couldn’t stand me It was a deep and hurting blow I try to save my dignity I avoid your icy stare At night I ask god Why he is so unfair The invisible tears are there But not for you to see You could give a damn less Do you know that hurts me? I avoid being around you To try to save myself Yet you are always in sight My god I need help I try to avoid those Who know you well Just listening about you Casts me in a spell Into a world of tears Of longing of fears Where every turn is pain All this time I feel the same I avoid seeing you When you talk to other girls Especially my best friend But you don’t know That I can’t a void it Life a toy bomb I avoid saving myself Because fate is against me I can a void destiny I can’t avoid the pain The constant hurt I can’t avoid kidding myself Thinking I’m over you. Truth 4-07-97 I think I better Leave the songs to the writers My emotions are all the same All I speak of is you My songs get lame But nothing else grasps my heart Determines my mood My life I can not lie to anyone Even myself Wise woman once said If you don’t sing the truth The mirror will tell I am happy in all aspects Except in the mirror. That is my truth Can you say the same? I’m sorry if my truth Seems lame to others But, to me I am true I could write about happy things Critique the world But for now I can’t see the world Around you That is my truth Sometimes the truth Is happy and kind Other times it just makes me sad Regardless I can go living Although sometimes it seems to hard That is my truth Can you say the same? - ------------------------ “Untitled” 4-24-97 We laugh to ourselves About the people behind We can vent about The stuff on our mind Slowly you did see You are allot like me Cause in a group We are indifferent But we don’t mind What people say I’m not you best friend But together we are better than nothing *We have such Sim-i-lar-ities Although the mirror Doesn’t coincide Together we Will make the world better Or at least we’ll try We share allot Although we are different Same likes and not Don’t you find it strange I can talk to you About almost everything And we solve it together Or, at least try *Chorus I don’t know you the best I’m not the closest Yet we find a link That together we bind Which may prove stronger As time carries on I don’t know if its destined But I don’t think I’m wrong *Chorus And who knows We may show The world what we’re made of Together we can take them on I know you’re strong On your own And so am I But -*Chorus ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:06:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Hull Subject: Re: Get the hell out of here JERK! al, could i see the pics. of his aunt? On Sun, 27 Apr 1997 AlJewsky@aol.com wrote: > What the hell? > > You are trying to corrupt sweet innocent Jewel. She is beautiful and pure and > wonderful. And you are a big ugly pervert for asking us the sweet Jewel fans > for dirty nudy pictures. i have some pictures of your aunt that you might > want to see. > > With love, > Al > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 09:09:41 PST From: "Bethany Thompson" Subject: YWMFM single finally in Australia!! Hi Everyone. For those of you interested (I'm sure a few of you must be!) I finally found the YWMFM single in a shop in Canberra. It's a bit different to the US version. It has ofcourse, YWMFM, the same cut as the US single, followed by studio recordings of the Cold Song and Rocker Girl. Rocker Girl sounds a lot less energetic than the live versions I've heard. Ok, Not bad. The cover photo is pretty much the same as the US cover, just a little smaller I think, and a little darker. I'm glad I bought it. I feel kinda special having both the US and OZ versions! Helen Aussie EDA. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:11:40 -0400 From: agalinanes@microjuris.com (Angel M. Galinanes) Subject: NJC: Let's pour coffee down people's pants , and my poems! Hey angels: The list is gaining a little more drama , aint it? A little more soap opera-esk , no?! Anyways , I don't blame the guy for posting the nude photos ... hell when I first joined , I even thought about it myself . Since then , I've never thought about it again , but please don't belittle a guy like that just because he made a comment that he didn't know would have so many repercussions attached to it . Anyways , I suggest a coffee break!! RAFA POURS HOT COFFEE DOWN ALL THE EDA MEMBER'S PANTS (courtesy of Hot panssy coffee @My Pants are Hot Assoc.). Please don't refer to any other EDA by names such as : jerk , moron , bitch , ass@#$ , retard , bastard , maricon , farifo , hijo puta , soco troco , magez-merd , mechant ,ect .Anyways here I is a poem I wrote last night after a very very very very very very very very very very very very bad night! My Sweetest Vinager Like an ebony cloak against the dark firmament of the night, my sweet butterflies disguised themselves with a muffled voice and a shroud frown. Disperse -could not- for they knew their faked pessimism would let them down once again so that their wings could open themselves up to the pretentiously sallow sky, Torn and tear their wings flattered fluttering their false visage. And still she says she loves me , but I know her butterfly shan't. A sky so orbitous has no space. No space , but for blood. Blood bled by one ungrateful slug whose head was born on the wrong body or soul. No time - but the blight soon enough came and starve the butterflies did die, and the slugs toasted tasting for the first time the sweetest vinager. by: Rafa there you go ... does anyone still read my poems? Any type of response would be appreciated until then your auto cheap archangel: Rafa - - Steve Poltz !! Fuck -well then leave me for him , but don't ask me any more favors. And I won't surf with you again (sniffing and sobbing) - Rafa - -two years ago -after Jewel left him for a guy named Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:11:37 -0400 (EDT) From: AlJewsky@aol.com Subject: Other than Jewel.... The next best thing next to Jewel is: U U U U U U U U UUUUU 222222 2 2 2 2222222 I'M GOING TO THEIR CONCERT! VERY EXCITING! I LOVE THEM! Thanks Kris, for looking past my foolishness - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Other than Jewel.... Date: 97-04-27 18:59:39 EDT From: Al Jewsky To: zerog@interaccess.com The next best thing next to Jewel is: U U U U U U U U UUUUU 222222 2 2 2 2222222 I'M GOING TO THEIR CONCERT! VERY EXCITING! I LOVE THEM! Thanks Kris, for looking past my foolishness ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:06:26 -0400 From: Brian Day Subject: RE: Naked Photos - ---------- From: Jeffrey Mosca[SMTP:jm881696@oak.cats.ohiou.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 26, 1997 11:50 PM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: Naked Photos >Does anyone have any naked photos of Jewel. That is my dream in life to >find a naked photograph of her. Smarten up or ship out there you immature kid. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:20:47 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: Re: NJC, help please Here's a joke.... This Penguin Walks Onto A Glacier See...And Then All Of A Sudden The Glacier Cracks And The Penguin Falls Through And He Cries Out "PINEAPPLE!!!!!" hehehe isn't that great?! hmmm laugh at ANY time now come on it's FUNNY :P Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 09:32:13 PST From: "Bethany Thompson" Subject: NJC: Port Arthur memorial Hi fellow EDAs, I was just wondering if anyone notices on the news in their country in the next day or so if the first anniversary of the Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania makes it to international news or not. Today is the first anniversary and it's big news here. I'm just curious to see if it gets international attention or not. If it does, I think it's so sad that Australia has to go through something big like this to make it to international news.... thanks Helen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:34:36 -0400 From: aaronc@student.umass.edu Subject: jewel on religion i am a mormon, and i think any comments that jewel makes have to be put into context. she was 8, to my knowledge, when she had her last contact with the church. it was also under bad circumstances, her father was excommunicated for cheating on his wife. i don't know anything about her devine comment, but we do believe in a hell. what may have confused her is that we believe in degrees of heaven, and you have to do some pretty bad stuff to go straight to hell. in "Nikos" jewel seemed really hurt by her father being excommunicated and her brother not having worth in the church's eyes, but it was just her father that was excommunicated. the rest of the family chose to turn away from the church. catholicism kicks you out if you get divorced to my knowledge, so this doesn't strike me as wrong to excommunicate her father. we believe that for more serious sins, more serious repentance and thought are necessary. we don't believe that you can go to confession, say i did it, and then everything is okay. if you think about it, how does that type of repentance solve or help anything? anyway...that's my religious post. i hope i didn't offend anyone...i just wanted to clear up the mormon thing since i am one. thanks, aaron. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 16:37:24 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: Re: NJC:what have we come to? Oh gosh, you guys, EVERYONE, stop, please stop, this is getting so scary, I'm scared, there, look, I want everyone to look up Angel in the dictionary, or better, what is an angel to you? Do we have to retrace what our.. parents, teachers, pricipals, aunts, uncles, grandparents said? "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" remember? eh? eh? heehee Come on I know you EDAs don't want this! I know you don't! come on peeps it's time to look at who we are and who we want to be. Stop Fighting! Stop Fussin! Stop All This Nonsense! Love, Laura "Real Concerned Like Angel At The Time" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Apr 97 09:44:42 PST From: "Bethany Thompson" Subject: Re: ROLLING STONES -- Writer's Notes See! We have it from Jewel's mouth that idolatry is not her thing! Take note people. She doesn't like it! Admiration is, I'm sure, a real buzz for her. She wouldn't get up on stage and sing her lungs out otherwise. But idolatry is another thing altogether.. Just my thoughts Helen >... on becoming popular >To realize on the first night of this tour that I was a pop sensation -- it >was sort of horrifying. I had girls screaming. It was interesting to see >people who were starting to give me their worth above their own. I don't want >that! I didn't ask for that! Back off! People giving me presents. I would say >this at shows, I don't know how to deal with this. I can't feel this separate >from you, I'll go insane. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:49:23 -0400 (EDT) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: the EDA community hi everybody! i have been upset with the displays of uncivility i've seen today. Jeff Wasilko, the list-owner, posted a message reminding us to remember that there is a real PERSON on the receiving end of each and every thoughtless and malicious email. surely i thought to myself that after Jeff posted this message, the pettiness would abide for awhile. i am amazed at how many times today, people blatantly disregarded Jeff's message. please remember that this list is OWNED by Jeff. this list exists because Jeff is a wonderful guy who wants to provide a forum for EDAs to discuss Jewel and more importantly form friendships. running this list costs Jeff some serious money. if i were im Jeff's position, i would not want to spend my own money on this list if people blatantly disregard my policies. the EDA community is one of (if not the most) caring and supportive communities on the internet. i would be very upset if this list folds. although a usenet group will probably be formed soon, i just cannot imagine that it will have the same sense of community that is shared here. i can assure all of you that tape trees and unique events such as Jewelstock will not occur on a Jewel usenet group. the sense of community and support will just not be the same as we have created here. i just hate to see us throw all of this away by turning this list into a flamewar. please don't give Jeff reasons to think about folding this list. i'd like to thank Jeff for his hard work and dedication in providing this list for us. the way i view things, this list is ours to lose. please keep things positive and be faithful to the title of "EveryDay Angels" although Jewel doesn't read the list herself, i have been told that most of our goings on do get back to her. she has always been happy to be associated with us, and provide us with advance information, and she also GAVE us Jewlstock and authorised the tape tree. please think clearly before you mailiciously insult other list members. i would be very upset if this list folds because of of a decline into a slippery slope of flaming provoked by thoughtlessness the repercussions of mailicous postings could run deeper than you think. i'd sure hate to lose the chance to make new friends, organise tape trees, and attend Jewelstock 2,3 or 4 i thank you and applaud you for reading this :) as always feeback is welcomed and encouraged peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 18:50:44 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: Re: All right >To the Everyday Angels, > >I'd like to officially apoligize. You see? If Al can do it, we all can. EDA is more than an acronym -- it's a philosophy. :-) Rock on! - -- | Greg Dunn | "god money's not looking for the | | GregDunn@aol.com | cure. god money's not concerned | | gregdunn@indy.net | with the sick among the pure." | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | Trent Reznor | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:01:06 -0500 From: Matthew Milner Subject: trollers and flame wars It's really a shame to see the direction this list is turning right now. Soem of it is trollers, some of it is long time members getting in arguments. I've been on the list since just before JS, and since then have seen many good people leave (and many new people join too!) I may not post much, but for the first time I'm considering leaving. I just don't have the time or patience to deal with the bickering right now. As far as the possibble trollers, I want to relate something I saw happen on the musicals mailing list a while back. A few viscious fleame wars started. Over time, these got worse, and some of the most "famous" list members got involved, and seemingly on the "wrong"side. Just when it seemed the list was about to self destruct, it was revealed that it was all a plot to test the strength of the list. They went on to explain their purpose and to suggest ways to improve the list and strengthen it. I'm not suggesting that this is what's happening, but I think we can learn from it. Don't ne so quick to flame. Sometimes the best thing to do is ignore someone, no matter how hard it may be. hoping things calm down before I'm off to IM Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:03:28 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC:Re: All right > In any case, my name is Al, I have loved Jewel for nearly three years. I also > like hard rock and jazz and many other sorts of music. I look forward to > putting many notes on server and I will do my best not to offend people. But > if I disagree with you or if I think what you said is stupid, then I will > surely speak my mind, the I feel it necessary. > With Love, > Al Feelin' the love here Al. ;) hahaha Hard Rock huh? I'm into the same...so uhhhh...who do ya' like? As far as speaking ones mind...I think everybody should do that, as long as they try to stay clean on the language, and not insult anyone. Not that I'm pointing fingers at anyone. Oh yeah...Hard Rock...check out http://www.concentric.net/~rickbond and download some sound files (they're in .ra format) if interested that is. Take care Rick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:08:15 -0400 (EDT) From: MaXaJoB316@aol.com Subject: Re: AlJewsky Hey...SHUT UP!!! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 19:10:46 -0500 From: Greg Dunn Subject: NJC: list longevity Just curious -- amidst all the unsettling stuff going on lately, I'm wondering how many current members have been on the list longer than I have? We had this discussion on AOL a few months ago, and a couple of names were offered, but no one could confirm whether those folks had been on longer than I have. I have since lost the file containing the discussion, so I thought I'd open up the subject again. I don't think this really makes a difference in the "value" of contributions or anything else, but I'm interested in seeing how may others have been part of this community since near the beginning. As far as I can remember, I've been on the list since late February, 1995; it started in mid-Feb., right? I seem to remember messages about the upcoming album release, which is the only reason I think it was before the end of the month. :-) - -- | Greg Dunn | "god money's not looking for the | | GregDunn@aol.com | cure. god money's not concerned | | gregdunn@indy.net | with the sick among the pure." | | http://members.aol.com/gregdunn | Trent Reznor | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:10:36 -0400 From: rickbond Subject: NJC : Ok everyone...let's all count to 10...don't forget to breathe...I'll start.. 1... Rick Bond ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:22:52 -0700 From: That Little Voice Inside Your Head Subject: Re: NJC : 2.. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:28:53 -0400 (EDT) From: FabCAGal@aol.com Subject: Re: JEWEL OF CORSE In a message dated 97-04-27 19:41:05 EDT, scorpion@ici.net (Brian Day) writes: >>IF YOU HAVENT NOTICED I JUST SIGNED UP YESTERDAY >>I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY >>THIS ROCKS > >I would just like to so, good to you. And please don't you all caps, looks >like you are yelling. And course is spelt 'course'. =) Later... > > If you feel the need to be rude to a new member, and attempt to correct their grammar, etc., the least you could do is be correct in your dictation as well. Mandy ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:30:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bond Lauren Delane Subject: from an oldtimer EDA with wise words :) PLEASE READ Hi everyone, I've been on this list since june of last year, and it was pretty cool back then... there were probably less than 500 people on the list and it was like a close family sorta thing. the digests were really long, but spent hours keeping up with them because people posted poems and poured their hearts out to us asking for advice and everyone was so excited to meet each other at Jewelstock (even those of us like me who couldn't go still looked forward to the occasion)... It was so wonderful... you could feel the love and community all around. (that sounds cheesy :)) and the best thing about it was that there were VERY FEW FLAMES and ALMOST NO DISRESPECTFUL COMMENTS towards ANYONE- Jewel OR other EDAs. This is a plea to everyone, because I know EVERYONE wants to feel good and enjoy good music and good friends. THAT is what this list is about. There are a LOT more people here, but we can still get the feeling back we had a year ago, I know it... let's spread love, okay? now everyone gather around for a big group hug, see wasn't that nice? now no more fighting, okay? thank you for your time :) love, Lauren :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 20:02:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BeccaTaz2@aol.com Subject: Re:Rugburns song Tower records has almost all of the Rugburns cd's, try them. Becca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 17:32:54 -0800 (PST) From: JABURGOS@CSUPomona.Edu Subject: Flame Wars I think it was Dennis Harris, I could be wrong, but anyways I think he said(not in verbatum),"If you're going to post a flame, type it up save it, and wait til the next day, if you're still that enraged by it send it." I'm thebiggest hypocrite right now because I flamed without thinking, I get the digest form and I was reading through and came across this and replied immediately, but I didn't think and later saw amillion other posts in regards to the Naked Picture Guy, sorry I forget your name. I do now see it is out of hand and sorry for adding to the discussion,...oh damnit, just realize this post might just be adding some gasoline to the fire, but hopefully not. Jerome Few words of Wisdom: "Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it." by Jewel(as if you didn't know) "I'm trying real, real hard to be the Shepard" by Samuel L. Jackson ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #310 ***************************