From: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org (jewel-digest) To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V2 #233 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Sender: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk jewel-digest Tuesday, April 1 1997 Volume 02 : Number 233 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Poetry books will be available, lyrics to "Down:, + Rugburns e-mail/web address [howenow@imagen.net (Adrian Du] Re: audio cass. Hard Rock Live [Dave Silverman ] No Jewel Content (poerty) [Mudgirl ] njc is that atlantic guy still on here? ["I'VE GOT TO BELIEVE THAT SIN WI] Berkeley recap :-) [John-Eric ] I didn't go to the concert but all I got was this cool shirt and book [Ro] Trading [Z3130@aol.com] Jewel in "Elle" request [dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick)] Re: jewels boyfriend? [Tigger3938@aol.com] Re: jewels boyfriend? [KIRA GREEN ] Anais Nin [Richard Butler ] Toronto Show Video [Crunch ] Help please [Tigger3938@aol.com] audio tapes [Thomas Carney ] NJC..but you'll want to read anyways...*big smile* [KIRA GREEN ] Rare and Radio Angels [sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel)] SJC The reason Jewel will never be that famous in Germany, Austria or parts os Switserland! ["CASEY HANSEN" <] NJC:Re: what happened ?(APOLOGIES TO ALL) [William E Sullivan ] NJC: Yellow brick road [toweringsis@juno.com (Shelly L Cook)] JewelStock Tape Tree [Kim Kolessar ] Saint Doug? [titletown@juno.com (Greg S Burosh)] Chicago concert on tape? [jdfree@students.wisc.edu (Joshua Free)] Poetry [sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz)] NJC: A Walk in the Clouds [ehicks@flash.net] For sale: 1 Berkeley ticket [John-Eric ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:41:24 -0800 From: howenow@imagen.net (Adrian Duplessis) Subject: Poetry books will be available, lyrics to "Down:, + Rugburns e-mail/web address Hi: I've just returned from holidays and have yet to open and read the many Jewel Digests that have arrived while I was away, so please forgive me if I'm repeating or asking anything that has come up in other recent posts (thanks!): 1) people have been asking about Jewel's poetry books and how to get them; as fate would have it I asked Bibi about this situation and she explained that due to delays in the printing process (and the inability to pack not yet ink-dried books), Jewel's poetry books were missing from a number of the recent shows and they just started selling them again in Portland, yesterday (March 30); she says that they printed up 2500 and since this tours ends within a week now there should be lots left for EDAs that are interested and haven't been able to get them -- these books will likely be available by mail order and when this is set-up the list will be notified through the usual sources 2) was I imagining, or did a post in recent weeks include versions of the lyrics to Jewel's new song "Down"? If so, I'd sure appreciate it if someone could tell me in which Digest(s) these lyrics appear. 3) also, what is the Rugburns e-mail or web-address? Thanks again, Adrian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:30:55 -0600 From: Dave Silverman Subject: Re: audio cass. Hard Rock Live I was the first replier, you can take me off the list because my friend taped it. Thanks anyway! At 07:18 PM 3/31/97 -0500, Jon Miller wrote: >Thanks to everyone for responding to my offer. I got about 15 replies >and thats all I can handle for now. For those of you who didn't get >one, don't worry when I get done with this batch I'll post another note >and do 10 or so more. Peace, Jon > > - ------ Dave Silverman dms@millcomm.com http://www.millcomm.com/~dms/elmo/index.html http://www.millcomm.com/~dms/pumpkin/index.html Please leave the biker... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:33:51 -0800 From: Mudgirl Subject: No Jewel Content (poerty) I need someone to tell me if my poetr is any good? Is it? I just want somone to see it. Dreams- Charlene Kot What is life without a dream? It is like night without day or pride without troubles. Dreams are the center of life, The only reason to set forth into each day. With the hopes that your dreams will be reached on this glorious day But they are not, And starting over tomorrow is hard. If life did not have dreams, Then there would be nothing to live for, Nothing to set your hopes on, No reason to believe in yourself or others. If no dream existed, The human race would not Becasue we would not be the dreams of others Only the hopes of tomorrows yesterdays. - -- Mudgirl "Beauty is something to be loved and observed from the inside out..." umkotca@cc.umanitoba.ca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:48:05 -0600 (CST) From: "I'VE GOT TO BELIEVE THAT SIN WILL MAKE A BETTER MAN. -MG" Subject: njc is that atlantic guy still on here? I went and saw a really neat singer on friday. Her name is elizbeth wills. I doubt anyone here is heard of her unless your from around here but she's awesome. I live in a college town so everyone had gone home for easter so there was like 40 ppl there. I was sitting there thinking wow this must have been what it was like before jewel hit it big. i'd predict to see her name in lights someday and usually my predictions are right. (like deep blue something) anyways if's she's ever playing around anyone here go and listen to her. you won't regret it. she's pretty funny too. HeAtHeN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:42:32 -0800 From: John-Eric Subject: Berkeley recap :-) Dear Berkeley-goers, *You are invited to join us!!!!!* :-) :-) :-) ;-) :-) - -who: all angels and their friends and family are welcome O:c) - -what: we are meeting at a cafe to meet each other and sip on coffee before the show O:c) - -when: 6p-8p, Tuesday, 1 April, 1997 O:c) - -where: Au Coqulet Cafe (2000 University Ave.), corner of Milvia and University O:c) - -special: wear blue ribbons and bring EDA posters if you have them O:c) Hope to see you there angels! Here is some more info.: *directions from BART: Exit at the Berkeley BART station. Head north on Shattuck to University, turn right (west) and walk to Milvia. *directions from Davis: Take I-80 west (880) and exit on University. Drive up University and find parking in the area after Martin Luther King Jr. Way. The theater is to the right of University Ave. If you need better directions go to Yahooo and look up city maps. ;-) See you all there angels! :-) John-Eric P.S. -- If you want to join me ahead of time I'll be at the theatre will 3 six packs of Rolling Rock for the Burns' catching the sound check and hanging out a while. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 08:11:07 +0500 From: Robb Leigh Subject: I didn't go to the concert but all I got was this cool shirt and book Evening all, Okay first off there is a new person on my extra-cool friend list, David Cragin, for getting me a copy of Jewel's poetry book. I would add Jennifer VanDine to that list also for getting me a concert shirt, but she is already there, well I guess I could highlight her name and add a gold star. You two can expect little extra surprises in the future. Those were the two cool things I got in the mail, the one bad thing was the note from my local record saying they couldn't get me a copy of The Nields "Gotta Get Over" CD. I order the hardest and never heard of cds. Hey Igor can you get this one (Razor & Tie records #2822)? Maybe I'll be able to order a Rugburns CD. Oh and it was soooooo coooool I got a call back from this guy who works at the booking agency for Ani DiFranco, Dar Williams, Eddie From Ohio, and a bunch of other bands. He's going to help me bring music back to Virginia Tech. Hopefully that will mean Dar and Ani. Oh happy day!! Too bad I was out in the woods at 7am, in the snow (it was 75 here yesterday), looking at little brown birds, well we did see some pretty ones. I couldn't even say how many tapes I have dubbed in the past four days, and I just signed on to be a branch. Ah but that just means I get a first gen tape! Anyone know how often one should clean their tape deck? I just got this fine one at Christmas. Well back to the studies, see you on the dark side, Robb "What good is science if no one gets hurt" - Crome Dome from the Tick Robb's Writings, Concert Tapes, & Junk http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html - constantly updated IRC - Undernet - #Ani_DiFranco - @Purple21 Purity Tests - go ahead I dare you - http://www.armory.com./tests/purity.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:23:53 -0500 (EST) From: Z3130@aol.com Subject: Trading Hello Fellow EDA's, I am looking to trade tapes with any one interested, Please Email me Privately, I would love to make a deal with anyone. Also all Colo. EDA's Email me Privately, Does anyone have the 3-25-97 show in Denver? Please Email me if you do your if you can help me find it.- ZACH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:22:04 -0600 (CST) From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick) Subject: Jewel in "Elle" request Does anyone know what issue of "Elle" Jewel appeared in? (wearing the pink skirt). Adam Longfellow has a picture of this on his website but I'm trying to find out what issue it came out in. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:55:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tigger3938@aol.com Subject: Re: jewels boyfriend? >I saw a cute picture of Jewel and Scott Weiland in RS >Magazine (Beck Cover) >and was wondering if those two were dating? At the end of Hard Rock Live while the credits are rolling you see her talking to Steve and telling him about last night. She said that Scott came up to her while she was talking to her dad and during that story she said that she and Scott are pretty good friends. *~Chrissy~* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:06:16 +0000 From: KIRA GREEN Subject: Re: jewels boyfriend? actually they used to date in case you're wondering but they're not a thing anymore.....i'll take him though At 01:55 AM 4/1/97 +0000, you wrote: >>I saw a cute picture of Jewel and Scott Weiland in RS >Magazine (Beck Cover) >>and was wondering if those two were dating? > > At the end of Hard Rock Live while the credits are rolling you see her >talking to Steve and telling him about last night. She said that Scott came >up to her while she was talking to her dad and during that story she said >that she and Scott are pretty good friends. > *~Chrissy~* > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:12:29 -0500 From: Richard Butler Subject: Anais Nin "Joy appears now in the little things. The big themes remain tragic but = a leaf fluttered in through the window this morning, as if supported by = the rays of the sun, a bird settled on the fire escape, joy in the taste = of coffee--Joy accompanied me as I walked to the press. The secret of = joy is the mastery of pain." - -Anais Nin "I walked into my own book seeking peace" Anais Nin "Her pale, nerve stained fingers tortured the guitar, tormenting and = twisting the strings with her timidity as her low voice sang; and behind = her song, her thirst, her hunger and her fears. As she turned the keys = of her guitar, fiercely tuning it, the string snapped and her eyes were = terror-stricken as by the snapping of her universe." Anais Nin "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more = painful than it took to blossom." Anais Nin "There are very few human beings who receive the truth, complete and staggering, by instant illumination. Most of them acquire it fragment by fragment, on a small scale, by successive developments, cellulary, like a laborious mosaic." Anais Nin "I saw the rose bud yesterday. I told it how lovely and fragile a thing = it was. And then thinking in my arrogance, I knew all there was of it's = beauty. I turned and walked away. When it was sure I was out of sight, = it bloomed into the fullness of a flower. And all the while I never = knew, that which I never even knew to even see. Until the next day. When = I returned and saw the depths of it's beauty unfolded. I begged it's = forgiveness for my shallowness. And the rose, perhaps sensing how deeply = I had been troubled, opened itself further. And for the first time I saw = that which I never knew, I never knew." R. D. Butler Jewel, Yesterday I said you used Anais in your song because she was probably = "handy". I see now that she was anything but handy. Please forgive me. = I choose to post above a few of her words, for you. And there were = other of her words which I did not post. But read them deeply and knew = the fullness of their bloom. I think you know which ones. . If I had a genie in a bottle and he granted me one wish, here is what I = would wish for. I would wish to be sitting around a table with you and = Anais and to have just lost my second debate of word and wit to the both = of you. And then knowing full well the price of losing. Stick my foot in = my mouth for the third and final time. Without hesitation. There's one thing I did not get wrong yesterday. You are still a most = complex and very remarkable woman. I know Anais would have loved very = much to have known you. But then, who would not. Your friend, Rich Butler ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:57:43 -0500 From: Crunch Subject: Toronto Show Video =) Someone recently asked about the progress in acquiring and treeing the Toronto show on video from the imposter who is SELLING it. I am back from vacation a week now and plan to send off for the video tommorow. Twenty-three of you have responded to me. While I am waiting for the video to arrive in the mail, I'll figure out the tree. Anyone with experience in video treeing, please feel free to Email me! =) Be an Angel Every Day! =) Crunch! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:59:46 -0500 (EST) From: Tigger3938@aol.com Subject: Help please On April 4th there is a web broadcast of a Jewel concert. Well I went to the webpage and downloaded the equitment they said I need for the concert-but how do I use the equitment and how do I know if it will work. If you do plan to help me thank you in advance Chrissy ------------------------------ Date: 3/31/1997 22:24 From: Thomas Carney Subject: audio tapes I am willing to make just audio copies of Jewel's performance on VH1. If anyone is interested just drop me a private message. I am looking for any audio recordings of the earlier Jewel stuff ie.Jewelstock....Interchange. So maybe we can trade, but I will still be happy to make a tape for anyone who has nothing to trade. Tom "just one more who is searching for the world that ought to be"-RUSH "Don't cry Don't raise your eye It's only teenage wasteland"-The Who ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 03:29:45 +0000 From: KIRA GREEN Subject: NJC..but you'll want to read anyways...*big smile* hey all you eda's! hope you all are having a lovely...i have a small request... on my web page i'm trying to put together a page of poetry, essays, short stories etcetera....i'd really appreciate anything you'd like to contribute or just the idea you're working on....if you send something and want to add a bio of your self feel free....i hope to gather enought to possibly eventually make my own zine....please remember though it will take me awile to put it up and look nice cause i can get busy...please don't think you're stuff's stupid because the expressions of the human heart and mind are works of beauty in themselves...awaiting to hear from all you great people....kira:) have you had a hug today? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:33:51 -0600 (CST) From: Emilia Garvey Subject: Back babies!!...short message. Back from florida..really need to go to bed. tell you more later..maybe even a couple poems about it..:)....so happy to be back... Emilia "The Jilted Angel" Garvey _____________________________________________________________________ She's an ugly girl, does it make you want to kill her? She's an ugly girl, do you want to kick in her face? She's an ugly girl, she doesn't pose a threat. She's an ugly girl, does she make you feel safe? Ugly girl, Ugly girl, do you hate her 'cause she's pieces of you? -Jewel Kilcher "Pieces of You" _____________________________________________________________________ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> *Don't you feel salty now?-G.M. * <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:34:24 EST From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: Rare and Radio Angels Hi, Can anybody please make a copy of Rare and Radio Angels for me. I will pay for the tape and the postage. Thanks! =) Mark (sparksmark@juno.com) I'm sorry that Jesus died for my sins, and I swear to God it won't happen again - --Jewel "Sometimes It Be That Way" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 03:41:23 UT From: "CASEY HANSEN" Subject: SJC The reason Jewel will never be that famous in Germany, Austria or parts os Switserland! The reason is simple, the translation for Jewel in German is "Schmuck" that is the ugliest word I have ever heard! "Schmuck" sounds like that phrase in Grumpier Old Men "C'mon you schmuck" Well that what I feel is the reason! Danke, (opps) Casey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:56:15 -0800 From: William E Sullivan Subject: NJC:Re: what happened ?(APOLOGIES TO ALL) I was also going to reply to this privately, then decided to post to the entire list as well. You see, you've brought up a very good point. While my original intent had been to discourage the un-EDA-like behaviour of some members of this list, I myself allowed the frustration to push me to the point of acting just like those people. My tirade on the subject of being tolerant was actually anything but. If I served in any way to continue to fan the flames here, I sincerly apologize. We all are deserving of the attention of the members of this list, surely. I would, in fact, like to thank you for bringing this to my attention, as hypocrisy is certainly counterproductive. Love to all, Ed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:22:22 -0500 (EST) From: the emperor of smurfs Subject: NJC: Nields Info ( was Re: I didn't go to the concert but...) On Tue, 1 Apr 1997, Robb Leigh wrote: > Those were the two cool things I got in the mail, the one bad thing was the > note from my local record saying they couldn't get me a copy of The Nields > "Gotta Get Over" CD. I order the hardest and never heard of cds. Hey Igor > can you get this one (Razor & Tie records #2822)? The Nields were signed to EMI/Guardian last fall, and they are re-releasing "Gotta Get Over Greta" on May 6 with 3 bonus tracks including "Taxi Girl" and "Lovely Rita" (the beatles tune with Dar Williams on guest vocals) and "Einstein's Daughter" While i wholeheartedly recommend supporting a quality independent label like razor and tie, i will say that if you are on a limited budget you should wait until May 6. the nields rock and are really worth checking out :) peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org "Innocence Maintained" is a moderated, news only email list providing its subscribers with timely information about Jewel Kilcher. If you would like to learn more about subscribing to IM or you have a news item to contribute, please email me. *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:35:19 EST From: sparksmark@juno.com (Sparks the Everyday Angel) Subject: Help out the Rugburns!! Hi, Okay. If you want to request the Rugburns through e-mail, there is the address to do it: y107radio@aol.com. It's a major radio station here in L.A. and a lot of people listen to it. So if we can get them to play the Rugburns, it would be widely spread here. So remember request like heck to y107radio@aol.com (Y107 is the name of the station). Mark (sparksmark@juno.com) I'm sorry that Jesus died for my sins, and I swear to God it won't happen again - --Jewel "Sometimes It Be That Way" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:23:32 -0600 (CST) From: dkaracos@marlin.utmb.edu (Derrick) Subject: STL auction If anyone remembers the name of the website that was auctioning off STL, could you please send me the address? It's not Dr. Wax...there was another one. Thanks, Derrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:03:20 -0600 From: Ashe Mayfair Subject: From the ashes with the Longshot Angel Hi everybody. I guess I really should follow up my post form a week ago. I said how I was going to have to move out because of... well, just problems (i'm not going into it). Well, I've received many pieces of mail form people offering me kind words and encouragement. I wanna say thankx to all of the those people and let them know that it meant a lot to me. Well, the week is up. And it's been a very odd week. I've managed to buy more time where I am (tho my plans are to get out as soon as I can save up the money from my new job). So I'm not going anywhere. Still, it's odd how close I came to this. It's almost like things where finaly catching up with me... but I don't think they ever will :]. I have to much determination abd force of will for that. So I just keep beting on the longshot... cus that is has always been my sure bet. To quote Empire Records: "I'm guided by a force much greater then luck". Anyway, I'm just kinda going on now. Anyone that still has tapes to send me, let em come. And to all of you that I owe tapes, I should have them out soon. To all the people that I aggred to copy Rear Angels and Radio Angels for and either havn't got your tapes or havn't heard form me saying I got the tapes, please mail me and tell me what your progress is with that. I'm hoping to get all of these things that I have going on tied up so I can move on with new trades and make more tapes for people. Thanx angels. - -Ashe Mayfair: The Longshot Angel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 12:11:13 +0500 From: Robb Leigh Subject: VH, Dennis, Fire on the Mountain Okay all you Jewelstalkers how many could hear the infamous Dennis going "yeaaaaaa...." at the begining of 1000 miles away? And when ever Jewel says something profound I always hear little Dennis on my shoulder saying "that's deep Jewel" in 'his sarcastic but you love me don't you' voice. Where is that Harris boy anyways, is he still JStalking Chelsea to see if she wants to be an Everyday Angle (ala Steve Poltz)? There's a fire on the mountain tonight, maybe school will be canceled, who knows. Really sucks cause no rain in the forcast and its one of my favorite hiking places, but that is Mother Nature you have to love her. Robb "Nothing more attractive than a woman that can put you in a good half-nelson" Cousin Ira Robb's Writings, Concert Tapes, & Junk http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html - constantly updated IRC - Undernet - #Ani_DiFranco - @Purple21 Purity Tests - go ahead I dare you - http://www.armory.com./tests/purity.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 00:16:32 EST From: toweringsis@juno.com (Shelly L Cook) Subject: NJC: Yellow brick road Hello all- Liz and I are off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of Oz. We will be home next week. Take care, be good to eachother, and don't miss us too much! Smile =) Shelly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:24:51 -0800 From: Kim Kolessar Subject: JewelStock Tape Tree How do i get on the tape tree so i can get a copy of Jewelstock? I was so close to attending but could not. May be next time (i can dream can't I?) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:24:35 PST From: titletown@juno.com (Greg S Burosh) Subject: Saint Doug? EDA's, I've never heard of Saint Doug before that guy posted something about it. Where would I look for it in a music store? I mean, like Compilation, or what? Thanks, Greg ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:36:00 -0600 From: jdfree@students.wisc.edu (Joshua Free) Subject: Chicago concert on tape? I was wondering if anyone has the Chicago concert on tape? I was there and want to relive it over and over again. Please contact me if you can help me get an audio copy of it. Video would be great as well. Thanks. Josh ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:41:25 -0500 From: sihorowi@colby.edu (Stephen I. Horowitz) Subject: Poetry A friend of mine wrote this (I can't take credit. I have no poetic ability). I'm wondering what others think of it (I have a biased opinion, so I cannot judge.). Email me privately back to let me know what you all think. Thanks. Steve Alone again and off and writing... my gift to you is more enlightening... More than garbled words and pages... something that could last for ages. By luck or fate or chance we met... One evening that I won't forget... Like a shining star or fire... so bright did our love transpire. I reach for you and took your hand... and then we made our solemn stand... Although we were but worlds apart... We shared with us a common heart. Day by day and night by night our feelings did grow stronger... I was happy to just be with you...and stay a little longer... It was just the smile of your face...the little things you do for me.. not only is it who you are...but what I mean to you... There are many things that I could wait for or many things that I could wait to say... but to wait another day ...is torture...for me.. but one thing that I meant to do....or say.. to you...is..."I Love You" /> / / Stephen (//////[0]>=====================================- \ \ Horowitz \> "Royalty was like dandelions. No matter how many heads you chopped off, the roots were still there underground, waiting to spring up again." -Terry Pratchett _Feet_of_Clay_ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:51:12 -0700 From: ehicks@flash.net Subject: NJC: A Walk in the Clouds > On another note, have any of you seen A Walk in the Clouds??? That movie was > soooo wonderful. And you'll notice, that he chose not to cheat on his wife, > regardless of how he felt for each of them. Anyway, I loved this movie!!!! Yeah, this movie would've been great if they had gotten a different actor other than Keanu Reeves! Great story, beautiful movie...except for him... *hugs* Emily ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 22:02:25 -0800 From: John-Eric Subject: For sale: 1 Berkeley ticket Dear Angels, Well I have an extra Berkeley ticket now if anyone needs one. Catch is you get to sit by me. :-) Orchestra section row cc, seat 105 or 103. Reply privately for info. please. John-Eric ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V2 #233 ***************************