From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #806 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Friday, 22 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 806 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Info on DEC 7, Hart,Conn wanted. Indiana EDAs, and who like frank zappa, no less... NJC: They keep coming and coming... Re: "Save the Linoleum" and the age gap Re: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples RE: Derricks Poem NJC : AOL EDA Chat... Re: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video RE: Get me outta here!!!!!! RE: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples Re: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video RE: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples NJC : Adopt a Newbie ! Re[2]: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video Re: NJC: I Have To Vent Somewhere NJC: Ani Difranco NJC: late night NJC: My Bacon #, and Oral Groove in Hoboken NJC: Re: Books ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: EveryDay Angel Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:54:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Info on DEC 7, Hart,Conn wanted. Hey EDA's, Does any one have info on teh Dec 7, Jewel Appearence at some store in Hartford Conn.? I live pretty close and I haven't heard any thing. Please E-mail me anything that you know. An EveryDay Angel, Bryan aka Hiroshi ------------------------------ From: WarChild@sciboard.spd.louisville.edu Date: 21 Nov 1996 19:25:16 EST Subject: Indiana EDAs, and who like frank zappa, no less... WAIT! I'm from Indiana... i'm all the way down on the ohio river... and i listen to Jewel *AND* Frank Zappa... whoo hoo! Frank Zappa is the closest thing there is to God, by the way. ------------------------------ From: brougdms@polaristel.net (Scott Broughton) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 23:06:49 -0500 Subject: NJC: They keep coming and coming... Mike, thank you for sending me all these JewelStock digests. They are so interesting. I can almost feel what you all were feeling before JS. I love the 12 step program. Can I still RSVP, Akira? ;) I'm glad that Patti was the opening act, because I really enjoy her CD. I actually didn't like it at first, because it was too close to Jewel, but now I realize *other* people can sing like that too. =) She's not quite as good as Jewel, but she's still good. Man, you all that went were sooooo lucky. Can't wait for JS II. I also want to thank everyone who took interest in Beyond the Grave. I really appreciated the suggestions and criticism too. - -Scott e-mail: brougdms@parkrapids.polaristel.net IRC: #rotterham on Efnet listserv: midnightclub@attitude.org Nick: (J)Wagner internet: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7887/midnightclub.html http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7887/baseoface.html "Such an injustice, as children we are told that from God we fell." - Jewel "Their precious midnight club - would there ever be another?" - - Christopher Pike, The Midnight Club ------------------------------ From: the Crazy Cleophile Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 10:46:36 EST5EDT4,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Subject: Re: "Save the Linoleum" and the age gap I got my STLinoleum for $2.99, American, on Newbury street in Boston at some used record store. About the age gap. I'm 23, and I feel old compared to alot of the members. Maybe it's cause I feel like I'm outside "the loop." I can only spend so much time here at the computer lab, and can't check my mail after I go home. So I feel out of touch. I could be the sheer volume, as I can't keep track of everyone as easily. I don't even know who half the people are on this list. At least last year I had a clue. And the digest doesn't help, either. But I'll still always remain an EDA, and I read as many messages as I can. I just wish I was more in touch with everyone, especially the younger crowd. They have such a unique perspective that I seem to have lost along the way to becoming an "adult." I try not to be one as often as I can. Sorry for the length. Chris ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:39:00 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Anthony Trudeau wrote: > It's a pole vaulter. No it's not. > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > / | / > > > [:P]=( $$$) > > > | \ > > > !---- > > > WWWW > > > /\/\/\ /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: Anthony Trudeau Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:27:44 -0600 Subject: RE: Derricks Poem Rachel, Don't worry I feel the same way, you are not alone. Tony Trudeau - ---------- From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au[SMTP:hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au] Sent: Friday, November 22, 1996 8:02 AM To: Luke Mosse; jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: Derricks Poem **Rachel wrote: >I'd just like to say that I loved your poem Derrick. I have two of my own >which I wrote a while back but they are very personal so I'm afraid to >share. Come on Rachel..you can show us. There's actually an EDA poetry page. I'll send you the URL if you want it....lots of us share here and we don't laugh at anyone...everyone can tell you that! Helen ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:44:02 -0500 Subject: NJC : AOL EDA Chat... 11 tonite ! Get yer little butts over here ! Rachel :) ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 14:34:02 EST Subject: Re: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video >It also makes me look like a screwball for keeping track. You're right Karl. It does. You need to get a life mate! ;-) Helen ------------------------------ From: Anthony Trudeau Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:41:37 -0600 Subject: RE: Get me outta here!!!!!! I'm going to be totally unlike my normal self and look at the glass as being half full. First off, so the list is being used as weapon as you describe. That obviously means that we have "legendary" numbers of posts (and I will add quality posts). And finally as far as pranks/mean things to do, it's not that bad. But, if we find them, I say we unleash the.... Nope, it's just too horrible to mention. Tony Trudeau - ---------- From: Slunk69090@aol.com[SMTP:Slunk69090@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 1996 5:50 PM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: Get me outta here!!!!!! In a message dated 96-11-21 11:37:40 EST, you write: << Please delete my e-mail address from your mailing list. I am a teacher at a high school where some of my students accidently added my name to your list. >> This really gets my goat! If you think about it...this is really frustrating. I'm in high-school, and I know that there's some ( very little, actually ) hostility within the Student-Teacher relationship. But what really gets me mad, is that this list is now being used as a "weapon"...a way to 'FLOOD' an E-mail Address with posts. I just hope that the student involved in this incident is not a participating member of the list. Well, that's all I have to say... Have a Nice Life! \\\|/// o?o V Mac You can call me Slunkers ( or the genius if you deem it necessary ) "Like a daisy rooted in rot and rubbish. Forced to grow in strange rooms, fed neon and cold pizza." Jewel -As A Child I Walked ------------------------------ From: Anthony Trudeau Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:42:14 -0600 Subject: RE: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples In my world it is... Tony Trudeau - ---------- From: Alexander Stamou[SMTP:m95stal@mtek.chalmers.se] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 1996 10:39 PM To: Anthony Trudeau Cc: 'Jewel List' Subject: Re: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Anthony Trudeau wrote: > It's a pole vaulter. No it's not. > > > | > > > | > > > | > > > / | / > > > [:P]=( $$$) > > > | \ > > > !---- > > > WWWW > > > /\/\/\ /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:52:43 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video On Fri, 22 Nov 1996 hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au wrote: > >It also makes me look like a screwball for keeping track. > > You're right Karl. It does. You need to get a life mate! ;-) Don't listen to Helen, she thinks she's sooo great just because she's got a boyfriend. His name is Fabio, by the way. Well, Helen, just don't forget that hair contest thingie...or something. :) :) :) /Alexander "taller than Helen" Stamou ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 04:57:23 +0100 (MET) Subject: RE: NJC RE: Totally Useless Crap Re: Nipples On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Anthony Trudeau wrote: > In my world it is... Oh yeah? OK. I could tell you what it REALLY is, though... :) /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:12:03 -0500 Subject: NJC : Adopt a Newbie ! ADOPT A NEWBIE FAQ Q. Okay, now that I've gotten myself into this program, what exactly is it ? A. The idea of "Adopt A Newbie" has been floating around the list for quite some time now. It basically sprung from the fact that many new members to the list that joined us after July of 1996 were getting wildly confused. Up until that point, the list had been pretty much tight knit because a lot of us got to go through the great experience of JewelStock. Some of the new members on the list ( affectionately coined "Newbies" ) were feeling very left out, and voiced their confusions. Since the Everyday Angels list is more of a place to talk to friends than it is to learn news about Jewel, a lot of Newbies were very confused, and even felt left out because they couldn't join in all the laughs. The purpose of the "Adopt A Newbie" program is to get the newbies out of the dark. At one point, all of us on the list today were confused little Newbies, and it is in our best interest as true every day angels to help others whenever possible. At some point in October, the Adopt A Newbie program went into the works. The basic plan for the program is to pair up Newbies and Parents so that the Newbies can have their questions answered, feel part of the group, and hopefully make quite a few great friends. Q. Gosh, this is absotootley wonderful. So, how exactly will this program run ? A. The program will run on a kind of interview-mentor basis. Here is the basic outline... 1.) Mail, and a copy of the AAN FAQ is sent to the list informing them that the program is up and running, and we need volunteers for parents and newbies to be adopted. 2. ) Replying 'rents and newbies will get the same survey to fill out about where they live, how old they are, what they do, when did they get turned on to Jewel, and what other artists they like to listen to. 3. ) Pairs will be set up according to correlations between the two surveys... starting with location, then other artists, then age, then job, then just all the stragglers altogether. 3. ) The parents will be sent a copy of the newbie's survey that we would like them to adopt. They parent can take them or wait for another. THE PARENT AND THE NEWBIE BOTH HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL AND ASK FOR ANOTHER PARENT/NEWBIE AT ANY TIME. 4. ) If the parent accepts, the Newbie will receive a copy of their parent's survey and a copy of the AAN FAQ. 5. ) The main purpose of this is to make newbies feel welcome and have their questions answered... if the questions are unanswerable by the parent, the Newbie can then write to the list about it. 6. ) The parent would ideally watch all the newbie's posts, and gently inform them of any wrong doing they might be getting into ( Ex : NJC and JC ) . This way the Newbie feels a much more personal, nice flame :). Q. Who do I contact if I'm confused about the program, or if I have a question after I read the FAQ ? A. Ah, yes. If this happens, you write to me, CornflkGl@AOL.com. Hi, I'm Rachel. Pleesedtameetcha. You should also get to know my left hand chickie, Jewelfan22@AOL.com. Her name is Liz, and I promise, she's not as scary as she sounds in her posts :). Q. Oh. Well... Why do I need to be adopted ? Can't I just ask the whole list a question, instead of just one person ? A. Well, yeah, you can. But the problem is this : imagine every Newbie singing on to the list and posting the same question-" What was JewelStock ?". After a not-so-long period of time, not only will the older members of the list not answer the Newbie, they will also get very annoyed at having to read the same question over and over. With AAN, the Newbie can just ask their question to their Parent ( who HAS to answer it, mwah hah hah...) and then , if it's STILL not answered, they can go to the list and ask. Q. It seems to me like this list has already set some of their own rules. Is there anything I should know as a well-informed Newbie ? A. Why , yes ! How strange that you should ask that, I was just thinking about telling you. There are three main, very basic rules to the list, that are very easy to follow out. 1) Everyone on the list has been asked to write JC ( Jewel Content ) or NJC ( Non Jewel Content ) at the beginning of their subject line when they post. This helps out the people who don't have much time and are just skimming through the list, looking for anything pertaining to Jewel. About 97 % of the discussion on this list doesn't even have a mention of Jewel in it. This is a truly common courtesy and if you do it, the old members will love you. 2 ) There are very loose rules to what you should and should not post. We have posts about Jewel dreams and "sightings" daily, as well as poetry, asks for help, and just general nonsense posts. The main thing to remember when posting is this : please do not post things like one sentence posts that the list would have no interest in. Try to be creative. Make up a cool nickname for yourself. If you're reading along in your mail and you want to write to the list about what you've just read , send only one letter ( instead of a rep ly to each post individually ) . if you are talking about someone else's post, please cut out and quote ONLY the part that you're talking about, not the whole letter. Again, this just makes things easier for everyone. 3 ) As one of the great oldies on the list says, "post publicly, flame privately." If you read something on the list that is glaringly wrong, or makes you really mad, or if you decide you can't stand a list member, don't tell the list. Everyone has feelings, and everyone can get those feelings hurt. If you have something to say that is mean or angry or insulting, send it to the person privately, or better yet- don't say anything ! Remember that we are every day angels and, as Jewel says, we don't realize how little cruelties can add up so quickly. Try to be nice and see where the other person is coming from before persecuting them. Q. Oh, okay. So... what exactly is a Harris Brother ? A. Arrgh ! Don't ask me, ask your list parent. That is EXACTLY what they're there for. ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 14:57:17 EST Subject: Re[2]: NJC (Trust me) Re: YWMFM video > >It also makes me look like a screwball for keeping track. > > You're >>right Karl. It does. You need to get a life mate! ;-) >Don't listen to Helen, she thinks she's sooo great just because she's got >a boyfriend. His name is Fabio, by the way. Well, Helen, just don't forget >that hair contest thingie...or something. I see this could get out of hand real fast so I'll appologise in advance for the hideous lack of JC and say that FAbio is not my boyfriend. Alex you and I can continue this in private. >:) :) :) >/Alexander "taller than Helen" Stamou And?? That's not much of an achievement. Everyone is taller than me! Helen 'ready to do battle with a swede' Gladman ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 14:54:41 EST Subject: Re: NJC: I Have To Vent Somewhere Is there anyone on this list who would say at school they qualified as a 'popular kid'? Ever since school ended for me (seven years ago) I have found myself becoming friends with people who, like Chelsea and like me, really suffered at school. I've never been friends with anyone who was part of the 'in crowd'. I wouldn't know how to relate to them! All I can say is that nerds rule. If I tell anyone now that I was lonely and miserable at school they kinda go, 'You? You're kidding.' So as I said to Chelsea in a private letter, she should just hang in there and know that we're out here and we're her friends. I remember it all too well and I never had an EDA list to get me through. I think we should all give Chelsea a big EDA group hug - is there a symbol for that? Helen - who is too uncreative at this moment to think of a symbol for group hugs. xx ------------------------------ From: Flower Guru Joe Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:13:54 -0600 Subject: NJC: Ani Difranco Hello-- At 07:05 PM 11/21/96 -0500, you wrote: >Talent Identification Program sponsored by Duke University...see What does this do? >I REALLY like Conan...he's 6'4" Tall, for anyone who has the stats on Ani. She's a whopping 5'2"...No cracks...She may be in a small package, but she has one hell of a message...I was doing this privately, but i hope you guys don't mind if i post this publicly...I'm always trying to get more people to listen to Ani, cause i think she is a great artist that's been around forever that gets no play time...It's even worse then the case of our little Jewel. So, i am here to say that if anyone wants Boots of Ani, i can help you out...I don't have much but i am willing to share what i have...E-mail me privately if you want. =) /| _______ |/ / / \ Love Always, - --------------------------|\____|@| Your Flower Guru, |\ \_____\_/ joe \| ------------------------------ From: "Tim Gavin, The only true paranormal of the Fu Sheng beaver." Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:36:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: NJC: late night you could make a career in late night. even easier than you think. I heard of a guy who attended a college (st. olaf, to be exact) where you can design your own degree. He designed a degree titled "david letterman" He studied hard, and graduated (with honors, I believe) with a degree in david letterman. He now works for the aforementioned goofball as a staff member on the show. neat, huh? you can do anything you set your mind to, or something along those lines. - --tim gavin P.S> hint I learned today: when you have a song stuck in your head that you'd really not have in there, just do this: try to think of and hum a Bread or Seals & Crofts tune. Considering that almost no one can remember any music from these hipsters, your mind will go utterly blank. If, by some evil twist of fate or "60s greats" records, you know any of this music, try to hum something else, like a Sonny dee tune. ------------------------------ From: Linus Gelber Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:04:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC: My Bacon #, and Oral Groove in Hoboken Hey EDA's: I'm pleased to report that I have a personal Kevin Bacon number. Back in college I used to act with Amy Brenneman; Amy Brenneman played Robert DeNiro's lover in "Heat"; Robert DeNiro appears in "Sleepers" with... Kevin Bacon. - ----- Now, anyone in the New York/New Jersey area with an ear for new music: This Saturday Oral Groove, a four-man band from Brooklyn, is headlining at Maxwell's in Hoboken, New Jersey. I've been working with the band (management and label stuff) for a while, and would love to see some new faces in the crowd, and Everyday Angelic faces are of course welcome. And who are Oral Groove? They're not ecto; they are good, solid, rocky music. They've been gigging for about four years in and around New York. The Knitting Factory once called them a fusion of Elvis Costello, the Buzzcocks and Gerry and the Pacemakers (this was in their dorky glasses phase, which has gone the way of all dorky glasses phases); Utne Reader said they were caught in a time warp between the Byrds, the Hollies, the Zombies and Husker Du. Me, I think they give sliced bread a run for the money. They are loud, tuneful, bouncy and fun. OG gigs about once a month at Brownie's (East Village) and every few months at Mercury Lounge; since the list is not a fair venue to post regular announcements, if you'd like to get info on them when they are gigging (or if you can book them or PUT THEM ON THE RADIO!!! --they have one EP out now, and the new album and a first-album reissue will be out before early spring), email me privately and I'll put you on the list. Relinquishing the bandwidth, now. Ciao - Linus - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Linus Gelber linus@panix.com Brooklyn, N.Y.C. - -o-<< WASTE cyrano@nycbeer.org Peripheral Visionary - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Steve D Dupree Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 00:36:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC: Re: Books >I read the Foutainhead by Ayn Rand a long time ago. It was > fascinating > reading, although I don't remember much about it now. I would like to I read that too. It basically drove me insane for like a couple weeks. I was almost as restless as when i got POY. But not quite, and it was more of a lower magnitude, drawn out nuts, where as my initial POY experience was more intense. But definitely a good read. Incidentally inspired by my favorite band at the time, Collective soul, who got their name from that. Hmm, it is like a big ol' circle.... - -steve (http://www.wpi.edu/~sdupree) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #806 ***************************