From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #777 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Saturday, 16 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 777 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Save the Linoleum POEM: The Monster Re: jewel-digest V1 #774 WWSYS on 92.3 Marriage is bliss... :) mostly njc, but somewhere is the info that Dave D wanted. Re: Launch CD-ROM Everyday brings a new light~English Proverb Re: NJC:what? Now we're slamming on girls? Re: NJCRe: Educate don't condemn Re: books Re: Jewel's personalities Music trends and my Jewel Quote Launch CD-ROM Re: NJC: Re: My Favorite Line Re: i Re: Eleanor McEvoy Re: Educate don't condemn NJC: I don't know a damn thing, but... Renee Zellweger in December Esquire Re: NJC: Re: My Favorite Line correction NJC:Favorite Books Re: story: Beyond the Grave Re: NJC,Question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alexandra Podbereski Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:41:10 -0500 Subject: Save the Linoleum I live in Canada, and can't seem to find Jewel's "Save the Linoleum" in any stores! Does anyone know how I could get my hands on a copy? ------------------------------ From: Floyd Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 11:59:04 -0500 Subject: POEM: The Monster The Monster by Mike Schaeffer The Monster hovers in front of me Like a abhorrence of hate. I shield my eyes from the abomination But am defensless and unable to overpower it. It consumes me and all my being, Driving me on a torrent quest for hell, A destiny of suffering and penance. Hopelessness surrounds me; I struggle to turn the tide On this control, this domination I am desperate for pureness But inclined toward pain. Hillary, Patchwork subscribers, and EDAs: Thanks for reading this. Its my first real attempt in a long time. I'd love to hear what you all think so let me know. - -Floyd EDA Poetry Page: http://www.servtech.com/public/mschaeff/edapoems.html Fiona Apple is musical guest on SNL tonight! ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 18:10:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #774 On Sat, 16 Nov 1996, Damon Schmidt wrote: > "To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to > society" > -----------T. Roosevelt Explains a lot about todays society, doesn't it? Just wondering. /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: Eric Haglund Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:19:47 +0500 Subject: WWSYS on 92.3 I'm down here in Blacksburg, Virginia and they are playing WWSYS on the radio. It's 92.3 but I don't know the station or the call letters. I'll continue listening to try to get a phone number and we can add one more station to the list.- Eric ------------------------------ From: "Duckman" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:12:40 EST Subject: Marriage is bliss... :) Kerry said: DUCKMAN: I don't know...Ace of Base? *designer imposters!* j/k ;) I'd definitely move to Jersey, I love cats, and I'll marry you but you have to take me to Jewel and Tori shows and make me Cup O Noodles and bring me a blanket when I'm sick. That's all I ask. Oh yeah, I don't like Duckman, but I *permit* that to by watched in *my* house....heeheeheehee ;) - - C'mon...Ace of Base is cool! Ok, how 'bout "Ready To Go" from Republica? ;) I'll take you to see Jewel and Tori and ANYONE you want to see(even Elvis! Don't ask!)! I'll make you your Cup O Noodles(mmmmmm......nooodles!) and bring you a nice, comfortable blankie when your sick. I'll feed the cats and do the laundry. I'll clean the house and rake the yard. I'll watch "AKIRA" with you. I'll sit down and enjoy my Duckman... Wait a minute-"permit (Duckman) to be watched in MY house"????? Who's makin' the dough here, huh???!!! I'm workin' my @$$ off pencilling tons of comic books with disastrous deadlines and doing some commisioned paintings on the side while trying to finish up my second novel AND finish that book of poetry that's due shortly, only for YOU to say that it's YOUR HOUSE???!!!!!!!! ;) heeeehheehehhehehehehehheeeeee..... Ok, I'm fine now! :) Honest! Sorry I yelled at you, Kerry! Here's a rose to make up for my "temper" :) @----;------ So, what kind of house would you like? :) ~sTeVe"Duckman"~ ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:23:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: mostly njc, but somewhere is the info that Dave D wanted. mike connell the big lug said something about guys he knows who only read comic books and the funnies and watch football. i know, i know, generalizations. they don't necessarily standup when you examine them, but i understand what you meant, mike. i don't take offense to the comment, just wanted to point something out (plus, i don't watch football. more of a baseball fan myself. and x-files and homicide and the simpsons. and that's about it for tv). i know that there are a lot of Sandman comic book readers out there, especially among the Tori fans. I personally love them and anything written by Neil Gaiman. i think that they may have even saved me from myself in high school. There are so many intelligent and interesting comic books out there that may rival some of the classics of literature. And then there are the soap operatic and cheesy comics that most people are aware of (and hey, they're good too if you want good art or a fun story). Point being, comic books, like music, or movies, or any form of popular entertainment can easily be generalized and lumped, but it ain't good to do so and limits the experience from the perspective of those who aren't fans. i don't read books much anymore, unless it's for class. and even then, i rarely finish the readings. intelligence and smartness depend on so many factors and reading can enter into it. personally, i don't think that i'm smart. i'm glib and fast-thinking and smart-alecky, and i can bs with great skill, but to me, the true test of wisdom is how you deal with life and everyday situations. Life experience is much more important than scholarly and book experience, ya dig? and according to this thinking, i'm a guppie. and dave diccico, the innerchange days shows were recorded, i believe, by Neal Copperman and Jeff Hanson, both old guards of the list who you can find popping up on ecto. rachel put it nicely about the going ons here. i've been skimming the digests since last thursday (10 days) and i'm so glad that i'm not on loose mail. i could bitch and moan about courtesy but i've done enough of that. Paul "blue skies come down on me" Kim ------------------------------ From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 12:34:01 EST Subject: Re: Launch CD-ROM On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 22:03:51 +0100 Thirza Pearl writes: >Dear Angels, > >I have been looking for an extra copy of the Launch CD-ROM with Jewel. > ehh... I'll go ahead and send this to the list so I don't have to answer it a third time. Back issues of Launch can be ordered by calling 1800-2LAUNCH (that's 1800-252-8624). Outside the US, call 1303-682-9738. Or visit their web site at http://www.2launch.com/ The issue with Jewel is #9. US $9.98 Can $13.98 Aus $26.00 Ger DM29.89 Jp Y2,000 HK $150 Singapore $28.98 UK #12.98 everywhere else US$19.95 - ----- telliamed@juno.com ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: THE KERNEL Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:35:45 -0500 Subject: Everyday brings a new light~English Proverb My favorite Jewel lyrics are many but I can narrow it down to 2 songs. Flower and Deep Water The words in these songs are just so true and it is exactly how I feel at times. On another note I hope all is well on this list soon. I've been very busy lately and unable to post due to a lot of problems and what not but it seems as well that the list has been having problems. I hope everyone is at peace with each other now. Sarah Kern THE_KERNEL@WOW.COM "Blooms in the east when darkness goes A radiant, cloud-petal rose, Out of whose iridescent heart The yellow bees of sunlight dart." ~Frank Dempster Sherman, from Sunrise ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Miller Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:42:39 -0500 Subject: Re: NJC:what? Now we're slamming on girls? haze@earthlink.net wrote: > I think that woman and women is implying that you have to have a man or men or your only a wo.... Uh - sure. You're entitled to think whatever you want about anything. What I'm saying is that the reason many people choose to use the alternate spellings is inaccurate and untrue. - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Miller Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:44:16 -0500 Subject: Re: NJCRe: Educate don't condemn BRADLEY C. PORTER wrote: > Actually, it's.... > Those who can, do > Those who can't, teach I know. I was changing the quote to fit what I wanted it to say - just as others were doing with "Zen" quotes. - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Jeffrey Miller Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 13:46:45 -0500 Subject: Re: books Grewolf: good choices, 'cept for Carlos! ;) - -Jeffrey, tired of "shamanism" and "Zen"- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: jewelfan1@juno.com (Liz A Clark) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:42:17 EST Subject: Re: Jewel's personalities On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 20:59:33 -0600 (CST) "BRADLEY C. PORTER" writes: >I was wondering, jsut how many different personalities are stuffed >into >that gorgeous body of hers? >I've heard of Rocker Girl and Obnoxious Girl...are there any others? Well, there is also "Dark Girl" which I accidentally enticed her to mention after I said "whatever" at JS. :( Liz :) ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:59:18 -0500 Subject: Music trends and my Jewel Quote I was watching the Ban the Nukes (or something like that) on VH1 and noticed how much music has changed. Not so much in a bad way. Songs now seem to ask people what they think of themselves instead of just the world around them that is easy to see but hard to change. At least most of the music I listen to. I don't think that is necessarily bad. Lyrics seem to be probing deeper in the mind of the individual. Personally I think that is the best place to start. Kind of funny that that is where it seems to be ending up instead. After all, laws don't change peoples minds, do they. That brings me to one of my favorite Jewel quotes. "We must demand more not of each other but more from ourselves." ------------------------------ From: Tegan Godwin Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 15:17:02 -0400 Subject: Launch CD-ROM Hello fellow EDAs I've located a store that has several copies of Launch CD-Rom with Jewel on it. If anyone is interested in me picking it up for them, I will. Email me privately. First come, first serve. ------------------------------ From: rtr Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:44:34 -0600 Subject: Re: NJC: Re: My Favorite Line > > > > I'm pretty sure it's "And the girl with colitis goes by" ;) > > > > bob, who's sure at least _somebody_ will get it. > I finally got it! Boy do I feel stupid or silly or something. And I'm even a big fan of the Beatles, not to mention Elton John. Earl PS I guess I just decloaked (sounds better than delurking) ... more to come ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:01:48 -0700 Subject: Re: i >(Ayn Rand --- you will all read Anthem immediately, >later you may read The Fountainhead) Hey! This list is way to popular now anyway! Let's just force them all to read Atlas Shrugged and take a good couple of weeks off from the 100+ messages a day. :-) Chris ------------------------------ From: Eric Haglund Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:02:23 +0500 Subject: Re: Eleanor McEvoy >For those of you EDAs who liked Eleanor McEvoy (she performed before >Jewel-atleast in NH), I've got some information on her. >Some are unconfirmed so check local radio/press/venue for details. > >Some tentative tour dates are: >Nov. 21 - Boston (South Station) / WBOS - free noon appearance Is anyone planning on going to this show? Could someone give me a little bit more inf. on it. I come into Logan at 12:30 Thursday and I was hoping to go there directly after I pick up my luggage.-Eric"I'll be running against the clock"Haglund ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:30:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Educate don't condemn And I will confirm that Rich Melko is a nice person and the post was out of character for him. Bad day Rich? :) Well, it sure is good to have you back! Rich was my very first friend on the list... way back in May. Selena ------------------------------ From: phillips@MIT.EDU Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:11:31 EST Subject: NJC: I don't know a damn thing, but... Anyone ever been to DisneyWorld's Epcot Center... to my favorite pavillion, The Living Seas? Then you may remember the 5 minute movie that's shown before you board the Hydorlators which take you down to the bottom level of the hugejangous aquarium tank. Anyway, the movie describes (a theory on) how the world's oceans came about. A sharp-voiced woman tells how gases from the violent volcanic history of the earth rose to the sky creating massive thunderhead clouds which then proceeded to rain down upon the earth, creating the oceans. She speaks, "Imagine, a rain so inexhaustible that all of the earth's waterfalls flowing together for a million years wouldn't even begin to approach .... Then when the rain fell silent, the seas had been created." Sure I've been to Niagara and have experienced incredible downpours, but trying to imagine a storm powerful enough to create the oceans is nearly beyond my abilities. This rambling gets relevent, I swear. The world population hovers near 6 billion today. Accounting for life expectancies, the exponential growth of population, and the history of the human race, one could estimate the number of people who have EVER lived (I'll guess somewhere between 10-15 billion). I will argue til I'm blue in the face that each one of these people could contribute something to the massive body of knowledge that is the human experience. Think about it, BILLIONS of people like us, each with that human trait of curiosity, have built up individual lifetimes of experience and wisdom. Whether a person's lifetime has been spent performing brain surgery, working an assembly line, pouring their emotions into their art, or sitting on a sofa watching Rikki Lake - I am certain I could learn SOMETHING from their experiences. No matter how intelligent I think I am, I assure you that I can list many more topics of which I am ignorant than those in which I am well-versed. I know not a word of Japanese, I forget all of my Hemingway, I can't diagnose a patient, have no idea where Baikonur OR Kazakhstan is, AND I burn anything I try to cook. Let's not even mention those topics which I have never even heard of. But I'm learning, and my endless curiosity will force me to do so for as long as I have a sane mind. Still, I realize that I am but a raindrop (I'd like to think a pretty good-sized one though!) falling on top of this unfathomable ocean of knowledge that humankind has created. I was going to mention that the last book I had read was "Compressor Aerodynamics" by Cumpsty. This text is a clear presentation of fundamental compressor theory coupled with an excellent overview of past research in a variety of areas including blading design, unsteady flow, viscous effects, flutter, & stall and surge. (Bored yet? Of course you are!) My point here being that classical literature is but one of countless topics that are a part of the body of human knowledge. Aerospace engineering is another one, by the way. There are a just a few others... My degree says that I am an Aeronautical & Astronautical Engineer. And yet if you were to sit next to me on a non-stop 757 and ask me what the function of each part of the aircraft was, I could not answer (I'd bet no one could). You see, even a field as narrow as aerospace has been built upon the contributions of hundreds of thousands of dedicated engineers, each adding their raindrop. It is not possible to learn even a small fraction of such a technology base in my short lifetime. All of this sounds so futile and hopeless, but my outlook is positive. I've learned alot over the years, and I find that the more knowledge I uncover, the more I realize is still out there waiting to be understood. The learning process is truly NEVERENDING, but with my curiosity for knowledge and lust for experience I will never be bored, and life will be rich. I think Edison once said " We don't really know a goddamn thing about anything!". But then again, I don't KNOW... "don't trust any planes built by " Mike Phillips P.S. I really enjoy hearing from the large variety of personalities who post on this list...so much different from what I am exposed to at school, where the vast majority of students and staff are the techie-type. Thanks for all the thoughtful and interesting dialogues. ------------------------------ From: "Peter Jones" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:11:53 -0500 Subject: Renee Zellweger in December Esquire As some may remember reading yesterday, Rosie O'Donnell mentioned on her Friday show how much Rene Zellweger, the actress whose character Tom Cruise falls in love with in the upcoming Jerry Maguire, resembles Jewel. Ms Zellweger appears on page 32 of the December Esquire. Frankly, I don't see the similarity. There is no bone structure to Zellweger, although the hair is the same color. Anyone else? Peter ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:20:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: NJC: Re: My Favorite Line > > OK, OK. Add 1+9, then 2+8, then 3+7, etc to 9+1. Now think of a > vegetable. The answer is below. carrot, right? right. (damn I'm good) SenztvRtst ------------------------------ From: "Peter Jones" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:18:48 -0500 Subject: correction "There is no bone structure to Zellweger, although the hair is the same color." Before anyone responds in a humorous manner, I meant to state her face does not have the defined bone structure like Jewel. Peter ------------------------------ From: AESTHETE99@aol.com Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 17:24:17 -0500 Subject: NJC:Favorite Books Well, here are five of the most either influential or emotionally resonant tomes in my life (in no particular order): 1) The Secret History--Donna Tartt 2) Franny and Zooey-- Salinger 3) Searching for Caleb--Anne Tyler 4) To Kill a Mockingbird--Harper Lee 5) The Growing Pains of Adrian Mole--Sue Townsend No philosophy, nothing highbrow, no BS. Granted the great thinkers are cool, but they don't keep me up all night becuase I MUST finish their books, as the above have done. Ah well. Jon ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:28:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: story: Beyond the Grave Well, I personally, am very interested in the outcome of the story. So post away Scott (slthough privately if no one else wants to here it). Also, do you take critiques and suggestions? SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 16:37:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: NJC,Question > > All this male/female conversation made me think... Why do men have > nipples? > > Ahh well, one of lifes little mysteries... > > -Bruce Is everyone aware of the fact that men can also lactate (give milk) if necessary? In the old west it was almost unknown, but it did happen. The mother would die in childbirth, and the man would take over the feeding of the child by producing milk. No kidding, it's true. SenztvRtst ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #777 ***************************