From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #734 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 4 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 734 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Rabin ywmfm NJC: SURVEY: c'mon, guys.. DAT YWMFM/Country NJC: country Re: NJC: Re: Short rant about extra Re: DAT - NJC Re: YWMFM/Country Jewel, now appearing in... Re: YWMFM/Country Re: YWMFM/Country Re: DAT - NJC Re: DAT - NJC Re: DAT - NJC (SCMS) Country Jewel on/off Broadway -*-*-*->Adopt A Newbie Is Here !!! Join Today !!!<-*-*-*- Adopt A Newbie FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Reggev Michael Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:27:12 +0200 (IST) Subject: Rabin Well, my friends, It would seem that a short period of darkness is coming to a close. I've pretty much had the blues since the Jewish annual to the murder. I hope I will snap out of it, now that we have the Civil annual. Still, I think about it. 366 days ago today, that great man was standing, breathing, eating, talking, watched his supporters, sang a song for peace, then left the stage, only to be shot from behind by a soulless coward. We shall not forget. We shall not forgive. 42, Tuff - The Israeli EDA Nov 4, 1996 ------------------------------ From: "(:spyflower:)" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:35:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: ywmfm aaaaah. aaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ah, ahh, ahh ywmfm is on mtv!! ohmigod. ui love it. she looks beautiful. so cool. so pretty. :) the VIDEo rocks. the video is pretty :) the video is cool. i've been watching mtv when i have nothign else to do, having it on in the abckgroudn almost constnatly, flipping to it inbetween shows, etc.. waitign for ywmfm. AAH. i turned RIGht when it started. and i was smiling beforeit started even really. cauz i knew for soem reason to turn. ;) "jewel/you were meant for me" = OHMIGOD nto wwsys! coolcool! okay. ;) so I was a little hyper. oh, and i saw wwsys while i was watching mtv all this time..and i hadn't realized she looked so cool in it. ok don't start yelling at me or getting ina debate about the appearance/beautiful thing, I just think she's really cool looking. :) (no, I'm not a lesbian.) um.. anyway.. is that the version of ywmfm that was on letterman? and um, who were the musical ppl playing? :) (sorry if those questiosn have already been asking - subscribed to digest right now and have been skimming..) thanks :) youguys rock, sarah ------------------------------ From: "(:spyflower:)" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 03:47:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC: SURVEY: c'mon, guys.. :) i've gotten a very very very pitiful amount of responses. :)(but big thanks to all who Have responded! btw - please answer the new questions too) I hope it's just 'cauz of my changing addresses and not because you don't love me or my surveys anymore. ;) So: - --- E-mail me at sarahec@freenet.tlh.fl.us survey's been changed a bit (two new questiosn and extending the date again for the other question): 1. how old are you/whats your sign? (include both :) 2. are you left handed, right handed or ambidextrous? (thanks tuff ;) 3. What do you like most about the eda list/eda's themselves? (please answer this! it doesn't ahev to be some long or really deep thing - "the people are nice" or even "i like getting the tapes" would be fine. :) - ----- When I post the results, I'm going to post everyone's answers to the 3rd question, I was going to do it with e-mail addresses..if anyone has an objection to this tell me. :) Sarah ------------------------------ From: wrdavis@ite.net (Katherine Davis) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 18:42:57 -0800 Subject: DAT What're DAT tapes? Can someone help me out and explain all these different types of tapes I'm seeing on other people's boot lists? Thanks-a-bunch, Kerry p.s. I heard YWMFM on the radio in Guam today!! On 100.3FM It was the alternate version and it was #2 on the "Hot 5 at 5" The dj commented how his friend runs a country station and they can't get enough of it. I called him up and thanked him for playing it because just 2 or 3 weeks ago I called every station in the phonebook and none of them had it! I got my RARE ANGELS tapes too! And there's no school tomorrow!! ;) ------------------------------ From: Trent Smith Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 02:06:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: YWMFM/Country First, I want to welcome myself back to the list after a self-imposed exile of a couple weeks on jewel-news (which is low bandwidth but very boring!). Anyhow, if this has been discussed to death, just shake your heads in silence and don't jump all over my case. wrdavis@ite.net (Katherine Davis) wrote: >p.s. I heard YWMFM on the radio in Guam today!! On 100.3FM >It was the alternate version and it was #2 on the "Hot 5 at 5" >The dj commented how his friend runs a country station and they can't get >enough of it. I called him up and thanked him for playing it because >just 2 or 3 weeks ago I called every station in the phonebook and none of >them had it! This Jewel-country connection was something I noticed when I first got the album this summer, with YWMFM and "Don't" in particular, and then much more when I heard other non-album songs like "Angel Needs a Ride" etc. (not to mention her appearance at country-heavy FarmAid). My question is, do you, the collected Angels, think that Jewel could get played on country music radio stations in the US (as a sort of "reverse cross-over") and, for that matter, is that something you'd even want to see? Answering my own questions, I'd love to see Jewel played wherever possible, to be exposed to as many potential fans as possible, even if that includes the monstrosity that is country-music radio. However, based on my understanding of the inbred nature of the Nashville scene (the fact that all Nashville-country sounds exactly alike and uses the same musicians, engineers, and producers) I don't know that she'd be able to make any better inroads there than she has on the pop scene (heck, Shania Twain is the most successful female country-singer to come along in a really long time, but she got shut out at the CMA Awards for being an "outsider"). So what do you think? Is the thought of the lovely and super-talented (no matter what Entertainment Weekly says, damn it!) Jewel being pushed into the vapid and mindless (with a few notable exceptions) world of country music just too terrible to imagine? Trent Smith P.S. Most people who come from big cities and/or think of themselves as sophisticated have an automatic knee-jerk negative reaction to all country music, but after being exposed (largely against my will) to enough of it I've learned that it's really just like standard pop music: once you're acclimated to the style (steel guitars, certain chords, occasional fiddle) you realize that there's good and bad, with the latter far outweighing the former. Not all country music fits the stereotypes. P.P.S. I'm sure no one will believe me now, but I really don't consider myself to be a country music fan, honest! I listen to KROQ! I've never even thought about buying a pick-up truck or taking up hunting! ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 04:33:58 -0600 Subject: NJC: country I've had a twinge of pain hearing Jewel's voice follow a country inflection or two, but i got over it. I don't like country, but some's ok. I was flipping channels the other day and there was this lady on with short red hair and blue eyes that kinda sang with a bluesy-country style, not like the usual stuff at all. Anyone know who she is and if her album music is predominantly country or bluesy? I noted her name but my mind's jelly right now and i think i forgot it. Yep, allnighter. So the point is that i should be able to recognize her name after a night's sleep. Any clues? Thanks, James, who is about as southern as they come but has resisted CMT til now ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 04 Nov 96 10:48:31 EST Subject: Re: NJC: Re: Short rant about extra On Fri, 01 Nov 1996 13:37:49 -0800 Sinjin said: >DEHARRIS@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU wrote: >> >> True, it isn't and never was satanic. But there did used to be a human >> sacrifice during the holiday. > >What? You mean I *can* do my midnight Harris Bros. sacrifice afterall? >Now where's my butterknife... > Yes, but we prefer you use a stick from the ancient holy oak tree. Gotta keep it traditional ya know. Dean "don't kill me 'cause I'm a Harris" Harris ------------------------------ From: "Mark L. Chang" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:20:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DAT - NJC >What're DAT tapes? Can someone help me out and explain all these >different types of tapes I'm seeing on other people's boot lists? *I'll reply to the list, just in case someone else has the same question:)* Kerry, DAT stands for Digital Audio Tape. Basically, the information is stored on the tape is in digital format, instead of normal tapes, which store the information in analog. This means that when you make a copy of it from one DAT to another, you get (in theory) a perfect copy, cause it's just 1's and 0's that the DAT player/recorder is reading. Quite cool, and great for SUPER HIGH quality concert-tapes/boots/etc/etc... If you have the option, get a DAT, they are cool. But the only drawback is that DAT players and recorders especially are mucho expensive. I don't know what they are going for these days, but they are usually many times more expensive than normal tape players/recorders. Mark finger mchang@challenge.clsp.jhu.edu ------------------------------ From: "Mark L. Chang" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:24:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: YWMFM/Country >to mention her appearance at country-heavy FarmAid). My question is, do >you, the collected Angels, think that Jewel could get played on country >music radio stations in the US (as a sort of "reverse cross-over") and, for >that matter, is that something you'd even want to see? Like you said, whenever Jewel gets played, it's a Good Thing (tm). I, personally, do not like country music. Sure, it's like pop and what have you, but I don't really like that much pop music either. I made the Jewel==Country connection when I was listening to POY one evening and someone ribbed me for listening to "country/western" music. I had always thought that it was sort of country, but not *that* obviously country! But, I think that she definitely exudes a little country or folksy style in her music... my $.00000002. finger mchang@challenge.clsp.jhu.edu ------------------------------ From: Uilleann Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 12:34:54 -0500 Subject: Jewel, now appearing in... Well, Jewel has done Broadway - in the Wizard of Oz. My question is, what other big-budget (or 'on the cheap') Broadway/Off-Broadway musicals would Jewel be a-wesome in? My Nominee: Eponine from Les Miserable Umm... well, its a short list -I just was listening to "Fall of Rain" and thoguth of jewel.. Oh well.. - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:52:08 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: YWMFM/Country On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Trent Smith wrote: > So what do you think? Is the thought of the lovely and super-talented > (no matter what Entertainment Weekly says, damn it!) Jewel being pushed into > the vapid and mindless (with a few notable exceptions) world of country music > just too terrible to imagine? Jewel seems to write songs the way she thinks will best express the feelings behind them. Some of her song sound country but don't have the tadition country imagery. The Morning Song is a good example. Not many contry songs refer to contaversial literary figures. If the contry stations start playing her songs and she starts getting booked into country venues, that would be great. But I don't think it's going to happen. And I don't think, if it did happen, that it would change the way she writes much. Some, but not much. Two "country" singers that I like are Lyle Lovitt and kd lang. Lang's powerful voice reminds me of Jewel and Lovitt's quirkines is endearing. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Uilleann Date: Mon, 04 Nov 1996 13:04:59 -0500 Subject: Re: YWMFM/Country Chopped Liver wrote: > > Two "country" singers that I like are Lyle Lovitt and kd lang. Lang's > powerful voice reminds me of Jewel and Lovitt's quirkines is endearing. Of course, it should be noted that both K.D. and Lyle, like Jewel, aren't -quite- country, by most definitions of the genre. Jewel, band and 'rock-out' songs aside, seems strongly planted in the so-called 'urban-folk' genre, IMO. - -Jeffrey- - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- jeffm@genghis.com http://luna.genghis.com/jeff/index.htm - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: Raymond Wong Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 10:04:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: DAT - NJC Just a little more clarification, as long as we're trying to do the old 'educate while standing on one foot' (gotta pee? is that Jewel related? ;) routine: > one DAT to another, you get (in theory) a perfect copy, cause it's just > If you have the option, get a DAT, they are cool. But the only drawback > is that DAT players and recorders especially are mucho expensive. I don't Basically, I just wanted to note, the OTHER drawback: SCMS (pronounced "scums") SCMS is that evil little compromise the inventors of DAT (btw, the new president of my company is a formar Sony engineer who worked on DAT) had to agree to, to placate the ever protectionist music industry. It stands for Serial Copy Management System, and it's an "in band" copy protection method. Basically, certain special frequencies are NOT used in an SCMS equipped DAT, for audio signal, and instead are left open. When you make your first digital to digital copy, it inserts marker tones on those frequencies, so if you try to make a later generation copy, it simply won't do it. Why is this evil? Simply, because it means any amateur musician who can't afford pro DAT, can't do all digital record & copy, either, even if they can afford consumer DAT. All consumer grade DAT has SCMS. The many who would never break the law were forced to pay for the few who might have. That said, I still think DAT is cool. in SP mode, you're still talking nearly 20-20,000 Hz of CD quality sampling bandwidth. LP is still 20-14,500Hz response. Both of these are well above anything a tape deck can consistently muster. (yes, Nakamichi, Harmon Kardon, and all good high end tape decks can handle this same response. That's part of the stupidity of SCMS is the insistence that the "better" copying ability would really have cost the industry anything. Really, they just wanted to make sure that smaller independent musicians and producers couldn't afford it.) For the money, DAT can blow away cassette. Even the lowly Sony TCD-D7/D8 walkman DAT, which is about as cheap as current production recorders get, has over 87 db Signal to Noise, compared to maybe 77 for a good home tape deck. (and this is using the analog pathway, which isn't affected by SCMS, btw. :) > know what they are going for these days, but they are usually many times > more expensive than normal tape players/recorders. You can still find Sony TCD-D7 units for around 500 (a little less), though they're out of production. The replacement, the TCD-D8, is still over 600, as high as 800. Tascam makes a better portable DAT, but it's much bigger, and over 1000. You can find Home DAT decks for similar prices, or, if you're foolish, you can spend 3,000 bucks and STILL have SCMS. The cheapest pro DAT deck, (no SCMS) I've seen is the Fostex, for about 1200 new (their entry level unit. Most proDAT units are still over 2,000) If you can find an old Sanyo or other out of production DAT, it might get as low as $200. Really, not that different than high end cassette decks. Media isn't bad, either. 6-10 bucks, available in 60,90, and 120 minute tapes. Personally, I kind of like to use 90 meter DATA grade tapes. 3M 90m 4mm data tapes are maybe 8 bucks in single quantities, and allow 180 minutes (*3* hours!) at SP, and 6 hours at LP. Of course, if you're using a sony D7 like me, you're lucky to get 4 hours of battery life anyway. :-\ I've been meaning to try some lithium AA batts to see if they're any better, but haven't had a chance... any other tapers out there tried it yet? (Oh, and if it wasn't clear, 4mm DAT is one half meter per minute tape speed. 30 meter = 60 minutes, etc. be careful when talking about "90m" tapes.) Yow... that was a lot longer than I wanted it to be... well, it's a useful introdution to anyone considering DAT, I hope. Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@netcom.com, negativl@best.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ From: David Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 09:11:57 -1000 Subject: Re: DAT - NJC Ray wrote: > > >Just a little more clarification,(snip) >Basically, I just wanted to note, the OTHER drawback: SCMS (pronounced "scums") > >SCMS It stands >for Serial Copy Management System, and it's an "in band" copy protection >method. Basically, certain special frequencies are NOT used in an SCMS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >equipped DAT, for audio signal, and instead are left open. When you make your >first digital to digital copy, it inserts marker tones on those frequencies, >so if you try to make a later generation copy, it simply won't do it. > Excuse me,but this doesn't sound quite right to me. I was under the impression that SCMS uses a subcode which is recorded to a part of the tape having _nothing_ to do with the audio portion.There are 3 codes in SCMS: 00 which allows an infinite # (theoretically at least) of digital copies. 11 which allows a single digital generation because the next copy is written w/a 10 which prevents any further digital generations. I have 2 Sony DATs: a D8 and a home unit,1500ES. Both are consumer models that have SCMS.However,there are ways to avoid the scummy beast...I have an Audio Alchemy DTI (1st version) that came with the added benefit of _not_ writing the SCMS subcode to digital copies so all tapes were code 11. I had it modified recently and it now writes all tapes 00. You can find DAT blanks on the net for 4-6 $$...check out Cassette House @ http://www.tape.com/ch/ Probably more than Kerry wanted to know about DAT...:) Aloha- David ------------------------------ From: Raymond Wong Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:00:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: DAT - NJC (SCMS) David wrote: > > Ray wrote: > >SCMS It stands > >for Serial Copy Management System, and it's an "in band" copy protection > >method. Basically, certain special frequencies are NOT used in an SCMS > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > Excuse me,but this doesn't sound quite right to me. I was under the >impression > that SCMS uses a subcode which is recorded to a part of the tape having > _nothing_ to do with the audio portion.There are 3 codes in SCMS: > The answer is, yes and no. Yes, there are 2 bits, the C bit and the L bit. The bits are contained within the data path, however. They are not within the 'audio' because they are trapped out during the digital data processing stage. This is sort of how the proponents explained it was an okay thing... There is an arbitrary line drawn between the "digital audio data" and the "audio," I think. I'm quite sure most explanations I've seen refer to the codes being in the data. This IS getting outside my own limited technical knowledge of DAT, but... oh heck: SCMS (pronounced "scums") (serial copy management system) The copy protection scheme applied to consumer digital recording equipment - it does not apply to professional machines. This standard allows unlimited analog-to-digital copies, but only one digital-to-digital copy. This is done by two control bits (the C and L bits) contained within the digital audio data. (Rane Corporation) Basically, it's the word "within" that's key as far as in-band or out-of-band encoding, as far as I'm concerned. The fact that it drops out during the D/A conversion is a matter of semantics. The probable key for most people here is that the stuff works. :) > Audio Alchemy DTI (1st version) that came with the added benefit of _not_ > writing the SCMS subcode to digital copies so all tapes were code 11. I had > it modified > recently and it now writes all tapes 00. Well, if you're willing to modify your equipment, voiding all warranties, and also taking on some minor risk of legal action (it's legal to modify you own property, AFAIK, but if you ever find yourself under legal attack for bootlegging, things could get interesting), yes, you can remove SCMS. There have been plans circulating around for several years detailing how to do exactly that on the older Sony models, as well. This is getting into the minutiae of DAT technology that I think would be better suited to a DAT specific forum. > Probably more than Kerry wanted to know about DAT...:) Too true. :) I'll try and resist the urge to overindulge next time :) Ray Ray Wong PO BOX 6163 negativl@netcom.com, negativl@best.com Hayward, CA 94540-6163 Member #11537, Deborah Gibson International Fan Club Co-Founder and Charter Member, Sutton Foster International Fan Club ------------------------------ From: QRyche76@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:00:25 -0500 Subject: Country There are differences between the 'new' country and the 'new' scene of any other genre. In the last five years, Garth Brooks, Billy Ray Cyrus, Brooks & Dunn, and many many others have surfaced and have been extremely successful with the older generations. The reason is because no matter how old (or young) country music gets, the music remains faithful to tradition. Sure, Billy Ray has a cute pony-tail, but if George Jones sang "Achy Breaky Heart," it would go as high on the country charts. The older generations don't like the 'new' rock or pop or musical theater or soul or so on and so on because it has changed and doesn't remind them of the glory days at all. Shania Twain is labeled as "outsider" because although her music is very much country, the presentation and capitalization of she being a sexy woman is unfaithful to country tradition. I am not a country fan, but I recognize it and its fans to be a 'community' kinda like the EDAs, just bigger. If Jewel started singing Oak Ridge Boys songs for the next ten years, it would be cute for a little bit, but we would grow intolerant and (sob!) move on. Jewel's music cannot be compared to Tammy Wynette's or the Judds. We appreciate Jewel's music for different reasons than country music fans appreciate country music. For that reason, Jewel would get limited airtime on country stations. I'm not trying to sound like a professor or anything...I'm really just kinda blabbering on. I hope it makes sense! - Mark P.S. Wouldn't it look stupid for all of us to be line-dancing to I'm Sensitive? ------------------------------ From: QRyche76@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:00:35 -0500 Subject: Jewel on/off Broadway In a message dated 96-11-04 12:40:50 EST, you write: >Well, Jewel has done Broadway - in the Wizard of Oz. My question is, >what other big-budget (or 'on the cheap') Broadway/Off-Broadway musicals >would Jewel be a-wesome in? > >My Nominee: > >Eponine from Les Miserable Excellent choice! I would travel to the Earth's core to hear her sing "On My Own." Another muscial I think would be good for her (and for the rest of us) is Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Song and Dance." It is essentially a one-woman performance. The first act is just her singing about a bunch of things for over an hour. Plus, we could get to see how our Ms. Kilcher can act (she has passion and imagination, so it shouldn't be too hard for her!) The second act is mostly dancing with a few songs. Other roles I'd like to see her in: - Betty Schaefer in Sunset Boulevard - Sandy in Grease - Belle in Beauty and the Beast - Heather in I'm Getting My Act Together and Taking It On the Road Mark ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:15:47 -0500 Subject: -*-*-*->Adopt A Newbie Is Here !!! Join Today !!!<-*-*-*- Yes, guys, I've got it all worked out and ready to run ! The next mail from me to the list will be a copy of the official AAN FAQ. Please read it, and send me any questions :). If you'd like to sign up as an adopting parent, write to me with the subject line AAN Parent. If you'd like to sign up as a newbie, write to me with the subject line AAN Newbie. Thanks, guys ! I really hope this is going to work out just as great as, well, as I hope it will :). Thanks to everybody who wrote to me with suggestions, ESPECIALLY Liz A. Clark, my righthand chickie and fellow wackafarian. Now, come on, join it !!! Rachel :) ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 17:17:00 -0500 Subject: Adopt A Newbie FAQ *** Maximize your wimdows for the best reading of this post :)*** ADOPT A NEWBIE FAQ Q. Okay, now that I've gotten myself into this program, what exactly is it ? A. The idea of "Adopt A Newbie" has been floating around the list for quite some time now. It basically sprung from the fact that many new members to the list that joined us after July of 1996 were getting wildly confused. Up until that point, the list had been pretty much tight knit because a lot of us got to go through the great experience of JewelStock. Some of the new members on the list ( affectionately coined "Newbies" ) were feeling very left out, and voiced their confusions. Since the Everyday Angels list is more of a place to talk to friends than it is to learn news about Jewel, a lot of Newbies were very confused, and even felt left out because they couldn't join in all the laughs. The purpose of the "Adopt A Newbie" program is to get the newbies out of the dark. At one point, all of us on the list today were confused little Newbies, and it is in our best interest as true every day angels to help others whenever possible. At some point in October, the Adopt A Newbie program went into the works. The basic plan for the program is to pair up Newbies and Parents so that the Newbies can have their questions answered, feel part of the group, and hopefully make quite a few great friends. Q. Gosh, this is absotootley wonderful. So, how exactly will this program run ? A. The program will run on a kind of interview-mentor basis. Here is the basic outline... 1.) Mail, and a copy of the AAN FAQ is sent to the list informing them that the program is up and running, and we need volunteers for parents and newbies to be adopted. 2. ) Replying 'rents and newbies will get the same survey to fill out about where they live, how old they are, what they do, when did they get turned on to Jewel, and what other artists they like to listen to. 3. ) Pairs will be set up according to correlations between the two surveys... starting with location, then other artists, then age, then job, then just all the stragglers altogether. 3. ) The parents will be sent a copy of the newbie's survey that we would like them to adopt. They parent can take them or wait for another. THE PARENT AND THE NEWBIE BOTH HAVE THE RIGHT TO CANCEL AND ASK FOR ANOTHER PARENT/NEWBIE AT ANY TIME. 4. ) If the parent accepts, the Newbie will receive a copy of their parent's survey and a copy of the AAN FAQ. 5. ) The main purpose of this is to make newbies feel welcome and have their questions answered... if the questions are unanswerable by the parent, the Newbie can then write to the list about it. 6. ) The parent would ideally watch all the newbie's posts, and gently inform them of any wrong doing they might be getting into ( Ex : NJC and JC ) . This way the Newbie feels a much more personal, nice flame :). Q. Who do I contact if I'm confused about the program, or if I have a question after I read the FAQ ? A. Ah, yes. If this happens, you write to me, CornflkGl@AOL.com. Hi, I'm Rachel. Pleesedtameetcha. You should also get to know my left hand chickie, Jewelfan22@AOL.com. Her name is Liz, and I promise, she's not as scary as she sounds in her posts :). Q. Oh. Well... Why do I need to be adopted ? Can't I just ask the whole list a question, instead of just one person ? A. Well, yeah, you can. But the problem is this : imagine every Newbie singing on to the list and posting the same question-" What was JewelStock ?". After a not-so-long period of time, not only will the older members of the list not answer the Newbie, they will also get very annoyed at having to read the same question over and over. With AAN, the Newbie can just ask their question to their Parent ( who HAS to answer it, mwah hah hah...) and then , if it's STILL not answered, they can go to the list and ask. Q. It seems to me like this list has already set some of their own rules. Is there anything I should know as a well-informed Newbie ? A. Why , yes ! How strange that you should ask that, I was just thinking about telling you. There are three main, very basic rules to the list, that are very easy to follow out. 1) Everyone on the list has been asked to write JC ( Jewel Content ) or NJC ( Non Jewel Content ) at the beginning of their subject line when they post. This helps out the people who don't have much time and are just skimming through the list, looking for anything pertaining to Jewel. About 97 % of the discussion on this list doesn't even have a mention of Jewel in it. This is a truly common courtesy and if you do it, the old members will love you. 2 ) There are very loose rules to what you should and should not post. We have posts about Jewel dreams and "sightings" daily, as well as poetry, asks for help, and just general nonsense posts. The main thing to remember when posting is this : please do not post things like one sentence posts that the list would have no interest in. Try to be creative. Make up a cool nickname for yourself. If you're reading along in your mail and you want to write to the list about what you've just read , send only one letter ( instead of a reply to each post individually ) . if you are talking about someone else's post, please cut out and quote ONLY the part that you're talking about, not the whole letter. Again, this just makes things easier for everyone. 3 ) As one of the great oldies on the list says, "post publicly, flame privately." If you read something on the list that is glaringly wrong, or makes you really mad, or if you decide you can't stand a list member, don't tell the list. Everyone has feelings, and everyone can get those feelings hurt. If you have something to say that is mean or angry or insulting, send it to the person privately, or better yet- don't say anything ! Remember that we are every day angels and, as Jewel says, we don't realize how little cruelties can add up so quickly. Try to be nice and see where the other person is coming from before persecuting them. Q. Oh, okay. So... what exactly is a Harris Brother ? A. Arrgh ! Don't ask me, ask your list parent. That is EXACTLY what they're there for. ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #734 ***************************