From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #723 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Wednesday, 30 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 723 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re:[NJC] Kangaroos, nKorea, Romeo, & my heritage NJC poetry (run away before it melts your brain) [Fwd: Re: MySpaceBar] Re[2]: secret santa thing My troubles are over! Re: Kangaroos, nKorea, Romeo, & my heritage Re: NJC - Need some help here Poetry Page Re[2]: NJC - Need some help here Jewel CD trading?? Re: Re[2]: NJC - Need some help here Re: secret santa thing SECRET SANTA UPDATE-DUFF Poetry Page Re: Adopt a Newbie, from the newest of nebies point of view How not to receive Non Jewel Crap Re: How not to receive Non Jewel Crap NJC: Hey ya to all those who don't want to receive NJC Re: How not to receive Non Jewel Crap ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eddy Kim Date: Wed, 30 Oct 96 13:29:26 Subject: Re:[NJC] Kangaroos, nKorea, Romeo, & my heritage On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 07:11:06 -0600, Dean wrote: >On Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:00:03 -0800 Katherine Davis said: >>Hey As! >>That kangaroo story was messed up. I feel really bad for the kid. It >>must've been scary. I'm kinda scared of kangaroos because when I was >>little, I saw a Bugs Bunny cartoon and this little kangaroo was bouncing >>around punching everybody. Shows how TV affects youngsters! V-CHIP! I >>saw JAWS when I was little too & I'm scared TO DEATH about sharks--I >>don't even swim in the Pacific Ocean and I'm surrounded by it! (I really >>want to learn how to surf though :( >> > >Um... can you say "fantasy". How come all the kids I know and knew when >I was one never thought of cartoons as real, but now it would seem that >all kids can't differentiate between them. Weird! > Well it depends on your age (and gullibility I guess). When I was around 10, I remember watching a commercial for a bathroom cleaner. Little cute sponges popped out of the can and wizzed around the tiles cleaning everything. I actually thought that happened. :) Now I know better. The sponges don't come out until you leave the room. - -Eddy [careful... careful... snip. snip] ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 15:53:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: NJC poetry (run away before it melts your brain) ok. here are two poems that i wrote in class today. They are pretty amateurish and I could spruce them up but I don't want to. One problem with writing poetry for me is that it is often a spur of the moment thing that doesn't necessarily reflect the views of the author, the board of trustees, or amherst coll...crap, that's the obscenity disclaimer for the radio. don't mind that. my mind is wandering unsettled here, pondering if my life might be squandering- rumbling, tumbling, fumbling, falling. And I miss me. ...to cut things short and to abort the life of this old child... ...but to take apart, sever this heart is an action that is reviled... And they would miss me. So I stay here escaping, immersed in sound, racing away from reality I should be facing- searching, yearning, hiding, crawling. But you won't miss me. I will teach you to hate me I will teach you to loathe me I will be your villain I will be your foe As long as you love me. there you go. Two poems for a penny. Rough and uncut. Paul "first poetry i've written in years" Kim ------------------------------ From: Floyd Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:48:25 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: MySpaceBar] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------7B3D4FE665DD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This Folks, is the funniest post I have read in weeks! - --------------7B3D4FE665DD Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Received: from business.socal.com (ecn.com [198.211.192.146]) by servtech.com (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id AAA19776 for ; Wed, 30 Oct 1996 00:47:48 -0500 (EST) X-ROUTED: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:48:04 -0800 Received: from ;Sinjin [198.211.192.20] by business.socal.com with smtp id $T101512 ; Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:47:32 -0800 Message-ID: <3276EBDD.3821@ecn.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:47:09 -0800 From: Sinjin@ecn.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: mschaeff@servtech.com Subject: Re: MySpaceBar References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mschaeff@servtech.com wrote: > > GuessWhatFolks! > > MyComputerDeskCollapsedAndAsAResultISpilledCoffeeOnMyKeyboardAndThereforItIsNotWorking!!!ThisCouldBeAProblemForTheEDAPoetryWebPage,NotToMentionAMajorPainInTheA > > > I'llGetgBackgToYougWithGFutureGDGevelopements.GAndIgnoregTheb'g's,MyKeyboagrdGSeemsGToLikegToGAddGThemgWhenevergTheHellItLikesGNowG%!!%!% > > -gFloyd This has got to be the funniest post I've read in weeks! Since you seem to be a little short, I have plenty of spaces in storage that I'll be happy to lend you. Here they are: " " If you need any more, just ask :) "Team Smelly Lives." Sinjin, JS96 - --------------7B3D4FE665DD-- ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:00:09 EST Subject: Re[2]: secret santa thing About the money thing: anyone with a good mind for working out money exchange (I'm hopeless) please tell me how much OZ EDAs are to spend in our dollars? I for one am quite happy to spend up to $20. Is this about the amount we're talking? Helen - who thinks this is a very cool idea. :-) ------------------------------ From: Floyd Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:06:06 -0500 Subject: My troubles are over! Hi EDAs, I'm back and working on the poetry page. What happened was this... As I said my computer desk collapsed and I'm not sure why. But anyway, I had a nice hot cup of java sitting on top of my monitor. When my desk fell to the floor, I jumped up and successfully saved my monior from a seemingly enevitable death but the cup of coffee slide off and emptied its contence on my keyboard and I mean COMPLETELY! afterwords, I tipped my keyboard upside down and coffee literaly poured out of the thing. Well, I tried to use it anyway. At first my spacebar didn't work, then when I hit my shift key... it type a g, then it started inserting numbers at random, finally it started loading files. Seriously, if I hit 'l' then the Windows Tutorial would start. If I hit 'g', the program manager would open up. It was weird. A friend of mine had planed on coming over and helping me work on the web page, so I asked him if he had an extra keyboard and he did, so that is how I am typing now. Calling Gerrit a bastard was a joke. He sent me an email after my SpaceBar post that contained "Hahahahahahaha..." and nothing else so it needed to be said :) Thanks Gerrit for offering me the use of an extra keyboard. The poetry page: http://www.servtech.com/public/mschaeff/index.html Currently there is nothing there but I am working on it... - -Floyd ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:16:03 EST Subject: Re: Kangaroos, nKorea, Romeo, & my heritage >That kangaroo story was messed up. I feel really bad for the kid. It >must've been scary. I'm kinda scared of kangaroos because when I was >little, I saw a Bugs Bunny cartoon and this little kangaroo was bouncing >around punching everybody. I wish I could remember the story behind the Boxing Kangaroo. Wonder how that started? REmember the cycling kangaroos at the end of the Olympics? Most Australians were really embarrassed by them. Huge collective cringing the next day. See you guys probably thought they looked really cool and true, they were probably automatically recognisable as Australian symbols, but we thought they were a joke and they sort of stand for everything we WON'T do when we host the Olympics. Hopefully the world will see then (if we get it right) that there is more to us than a Yob in an Akubra (ie Mick Dundee) and big dumb looking kangaroos on bicycles! Helen - reporter on native wildlife and OZ culture..... ;-) ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:10:11 EST Subject: Re: NJC - Need some help here How abou;t 'Papa Don't Preach'? It meant something to me when I was fifteen...?? Helen _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: NJC - Need some help here From: Fuzzy & Piglet at mgdestmx01 Date: 30/10/96 7:28 PM my girlfriend is working on a program at her clinic for teenagers and she is looking for songs that deal with abstinance, teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, AIDs, abortion, anything along that line. All I can come up with is a couple of Ani DiFranco songs, anyone know of others? She's is mainly looking for popular songs, but any will do, plus she would like the lyrics, not neccisarily the actual song. thanks all, Robb "Time is an enormous long river, and I am standing in it" - Utah Phillips Robb's Editorial and Writings http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html updated 10/1/96 rleigh@vt.edu, IRC nickname Purple21 ------------------------------ From: Floyd Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 17:22:55 -0500 Subject: Poetry Page Somebody look at the poetry page and tell me what you think about the yellow text. I think it is too light and hard to read. http://www.servtech.com/public/mschaeff/index.html Thanks, Floyd ------------------------------ From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au Date: Thu, 31 Oct 96 09:31:48 EST Subject: Re[2]: NJC - Need some help here And another - Three Babies by Sinead O'Connor. The second album. Brilliant as a portrait of mourning for lost babies. Helen _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: NJC - Need some help here From: hgladman@mgdestmx01.erin.gov.au at mgdestmx01 Date: 31/10/96 9:10 AM How abou;t 'Papa Don't Preach'? It meant something to me when I was fifteen...?? Helen _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: NJC - Need some help here From: Fuzzy & Piglet at mgdestmx01 Date: 30/10/96 7:28 PM my girlfriend is working on a program at her clinic for teenagers and she is looking for songs that deal with abstinance, teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted diseases, AIDs, abortion, anything along that line. All I can come up with is a couple of Ani DiFranco songs, anyone know of others? She's is mainly looking for popular songs, but any will do, plus she would like the lyrics, not neccisarily the actual song. thanks all, Robb "Time is an enormous long river, and I am standing in it" - Utah Phillips Robb's Editorial and Writings http://www.vt.edu:10021/R/rleigh/robb.html updated 10/1/96 rleigh@vt.edu, IRC nickname Purple21 ------------------------------ From: dan Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:01:26 -0500 Subject: Jewel CD trading?? I got email from someone (I can't remember who right now) who said that he got a Jewel CD from the Jewel mailing list....I am assuming he meant this one. Anyway, he said that someone had a CD recorder and made copies of the promo stuff of Jewel's that is so hard to find. If this is, indeed, true, could someone email me with the details? Also, does anyone know of future dates for the Lifetime channel show with Jewel and her mum? Thanks. lates dano <--End Of File--> ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:58:55 -0800 Subject: Re: Re[2]: NJC - Need some help here Paradise By the Dashboard Lights by Meatloaf. This song definitly deals with date pressure. ------------------------------ From: Brenda Thorne Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 14:13:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: secret santa thing On Wed, 30 Oct 1996, Leave the shadows dancing wrote: > SECRET SANTAS!!! =) > About the money situation being TOO much: > > I can understand not wanting to spend much on it. However, it's only > ONE person each...come on folks! These are EDA's we're talking about! =) > > Consider the alternatives: > $10-15 (Postage $3-5) => $5-13 for present. Now I know there are > many gifts in that price range, but what if the perfect gift is $15? Now if > you go and get it, it doesn't REALLY matter, but you've gone over the limit and > now you've gone over the limit! This really limits it to any small $10 gift. > $10-20 (Postage $3-5) => $5-17 for present. This limits it to 'bout > $15 for a gift. I think this is an actual possible alternative, but it does > allow for a BIG difference in gifts therefore leading to possible > disappointment. > $15-20 (Postage $3-5) => $10-17 for present. This is also a viable > alternative and would keep the gifts in a good range, but those REALLY strapped > for cash are flat out. (Which really I don't see as a big problem becuz if you > can't spend the money anyway, don't participate!) > There is also the point that some cheaper gifts would be worth more to > some people than the more expensive gifts.. *shrug* It's all perspective > dagnabit! > But in any case.. we could even do $20-25.. or 'course the deemed > $25-30, all of which I am willing to do, but I'm sure no matter how low we put > it there will be kicking and screaming by someone or other. (Ok, fine.. so > most EDA's don't kick and scream.. just grumble and groan ;P eheh) > > Basically what we're looking at is whether we just want to exchange > petty gifts and allow everyone to join in, or to raise it a bit, and exclude > those who can't afford it. > NO ONE should be excluded from this. I don't think you should put a price cap on it at all as it is the thought that counts. People should give according to their hearts (of course their budgets will have a say in this I'm sure!). If you must put a price cap on it - ask people to spend NO MORE THAN $x (whatever figure) - don't make them HAVE to spend $x-$x Does this make sense? Brenda ------------------------------ From: TJtalken@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:42:00 -0500 Subject: SECRET SANTA UPDATE-DUFF okay..ya'all had even me confused about why your bitching about the money...the price of the secret santa gifts... apparently the confusion comes from the number of gifts..i agree it's totally nuts to spend 25 dollars including postage on anything for someone you barely know. but perhaps the rules of secret santa's needs to be reviewed. this goes on for four weeks...a gift a week...that's $5 dollars a week...and some postage. i'm not telling you, you even have to send something that's $5 dollars...even just a little something each week. this got real complicated real fast, and a lot of people got turned off by the price...but re think this..you get to go out and spend a few dollars a week buying something neat for someone you've read post from for months...and in excange you get something neat from them! it's really not about the money- really....it's about having fun getting to know someone you might not otherwise..and having a little fun, and getting something in exchange. a lot of my sign-ups are giving their Miss Jewel tape lists...so they might be getting concerts they don't already have...heck that's only a few dollars a week...and anyway...sign-up if you want too..i just thought it was something fun we could do..that would bring this list back together...for those of you already signed up...things are going great...i'm just trying to included more people!!! duff ------------------------------ From: Floyd Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 18:57:40 -0500 Subject: Poetry Page I just had an intreging idea. If you have visited the husk of a poetry page I have put up, you may have noticed that there is a link titled "Who Are The EDAs". I had planned on typing something up for this tonight/tomorrow morning after I get all of the poetry up, but it occured to me that maybe one of the other EDAs might want to take a crack at it. Most of you have been here longer than I have and can probably better express not only what an EDA is in an analytical sense but also what it means to be an EDA... how it feels. If you want to try, type something up and send it to me. If I don't get any responses then I will type it up myself. Give it a shot guys. Frankly I have enough to do with this page tonight :) I hope to have all the poetry up by 6AM 10/31 (Thats in eleven hours)! I can't wait til its done. Not because I am tired of it but because I think it will be neat. It may not look great at first but please remember this is my first web page so be gentle and I will continually be updating it with new poetry and making it look better. Again, any suggestions would be appreciated (includeing worthwhile graphics for the page if you have 'em.) I have changed the text color on the page but I am still not happy with it. I might change it a few more times before the night is through. Well I have over 40 more poems to add so I better get moving. G'nite all, Floyd EDA Poetry Page http://www.servtech.com/public/mschaeff/index.html ------------------------------ From: JEWELFAN22@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:32:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Adopt a Newbie, from the newest of nebies point of view Selena wrote:: > Oh... and are you aware of the initiation process? >You hafta get naked and run around your neighborhood screaming.. >or singing.. "do you hate me 'cause I'm pieces of you" > These are Liz's rules. Yes they are and I am very strict about them...NO EXCEPTIONS!!!! ;-) Liz "who is having a little fun with the newbies but really loves them" Clark ------------------------------ From: Neil MacDonald Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 20:37:25 -0500 Subject: How not to receive Non Jewel Crap Hrm....I've debated long and hard in my mind whether to post the following .....not many of you know me, but I've been a lurker since just about when the list started. I was previously under a different account. Anywhooo.... I have no interest in receiving NJC stuff. I know, understand, and appreciate the fact that many of you have become close friends as a result of this list. I think that's awesome,.....BUT...... I subscribe to this list because I love jewel and want to know more about her. It's so very tiresome to filter between what has actual Jewel content and what doesn't. I dont wan't to download messages that are off topic....and that's exactly what they are; off topic. I'm not sure how others feel about this, but I would love to see another list (maybe called EDANJC or something) started so that people who want to continue to have a connection about Jewel but chat about other topics can have a forum to do so. What prompted me to write this is when I recently started to notice that I rarely even read these digests anymore. I rarely read them because so many of them have so much NJC that I get angry even downloading them. Many of you probably think this is the natural way the list should be. It's not. It didn't used to be this way. I used to LOVE this list. I looked forward to every new message. Now I just get sad because this has turned into something else. In closing, I am not writing this to criticize those who post lots of NJC stuff, I'm just asking that you find another forum to do it in. I myself have made a few friends from the list who I regularly stay in contact with, but I do it off the list. Does anyone have any ideas about this? Am I off base? Do I need a killfile? Open to suggestions.... Neil P.S. Constructive criticism welcome, flames ignored. ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 19:49:48 -0600 Subject: Re: How not to receive Non Jewel Crap - - Does anyone have any ideas about this? Am I off base? Do I need a - - killfile? Open to suggestions.... Procmail/a killfile will get you the most info, but will still let messages through when someone forgets or modifys the "NJC" in the subject. There is a news list, with much less traffic and only news items. It's a subset of this list. send jewel-request@smoe.org mail with this in the body: unsubscribe subscribe jewel-news That will move you to the news only list. It comes as loose mail, but has obvious subjects that begin with "Jewel News:..." I'd say it averages about 3 mails a week. James ________________________________________________________________________ Computer Science/Engineering Eng. Network Services Web Guy http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Auburn University Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ From: NeOblCar@aol.com Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:10:21 -0500 Subject: NJC: Hey ya Not that many may care, or even know me with so many newbies, but I did want to chime in and say hi to all my EDA buddies out there. I have been extremely busy, (haven't we all), and I barely get time to scan through the digests. I did want to give a big thanks to Dan for personally directing so much of my musical interest outside of Jewel. All his insightful posts about upcoming similar acts has saved me a lot of time and effort. It is so great just to buy the CD's he recommends. Gosh, kind of makes him some sort of CD-demi-god, what power!!! Well at least he has great taste in music. Thanks, again Dan -- keep up the posts. Next, maybe I missed some of the posts but are we still planning the EDA reunion in Times Square on Dec. 31st, sometime around 11:59pm. Bad news, because I heard some other people might be gathering in the same location that night. No really... what's the status of this event?????? Anyway, I'll keep reading and hopefully start reposting on a frequent basis again after the Holidays. Been missing you all, we got to get a east coast reunion going some how!!!! Rob C. ------------------------------ From: "Brett M. Eskin" Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:18:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: to all those who don't want to receive NJC I have this neat little delete fuction, you should try to see if yuo can do that. If there are let's say 50 NJC messages, it takes approximately 1 mnute to delete all of them. Stop your complaining. You're like a bunch of 4 year olds. Wah wah, but I don't want non jewel "crap" whine bitch moan.... Just delete it if you don't want it. - --Brett "I wish I could get my head out of the sand. Cause we'd really make a good team. And you'd keep my fingernails clean." - --Rivers Cuomo ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 21:19:56 -0500 Subject: Re: How not to receive Non Jewel Crap Neil MacDonald wrote: > Hrm....I've debated long and hard in my mind whether to post the following > .....not many of you know me, but I've been a lurker since just about when > the list started. > I subscribe to this > list because I love jewel and want to know more about her. It's so very > tiresome to filter between what has actual Jewel content and what doesn't. > It didn't used to be this way. I used to LOVE this list. I looked forward > to every new message. Now I just get sad because this has turned into > something else. > In closing, I am not writing this to criticize those who post lots of NJC > stuff, I'm just asking that you find another forum to do it in. > Does anyone have any ideas about this? Am I off base? Do I need a > killfile? Open to suggestions.... Neil, No flames....but I do feel you are off base. Lists are what they become. If you lurk and don't input at all...ever, you have no say. IMHO I've heard that some lists number in the thousands. You can't tell me they are the way you'd wish this list to revert to. Heck, you didn't even get the JewelStock tapes, at least not through the tree anyway. So what are you doing here? That's one thing that REALLY puzzled MANY of us. What are the 200 or so that DID NOT order the JewelStock tapes doing on this list? They don't post, they don't get these INCREDIBLE tapes!?! Did I not make myself clear? These tapes are BETTER than PoY, sound better than ANY live CD I have, and I have 42 live CDs. It's like having Jewel right in your living room. It really baffles me. How can ANY Jewel fan on this list NOT want these tapes? All lists grow. The MAJORITY of the *posters* now like the way the list is now...it's their opinion that counts the most. They are the ones that contribute. They are the ones that make it "live"...have a life of it's own. The folk who just want news...well we have the "news" list now. It averages maybe 5 posts a week. I know you think it's great that those of us that are friends ON the list, have what we have, I do too....and I think it's great that you feel that way. However, I don't think it's US that should "move on" and form a new list, perhaps it's the lurkers who should. They don't add anything to this list anyway. Just my two cents. Mike Connell ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #723 ***************************