From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #649 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Friday, 4 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 649 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Jewel hits Norway Swedes, Quasi vikings.. Foolish Games (Piano Music) NJC: Just A Thought Re: jewel-digest V1 #648 I'm new here NJC, but read it anyway!!! Oct 13th Boston Show Re: Don't read this. NJC : AOL EDA Chat & Arrrrghh... Re: NJC, but read it anyway!!! not important. Adieu. Adios. Gone... bumperstickers?/ Crossroads/class motto/title Re: Picture Proposal: census Jewel Songbook. Re: bumperstickers?/ Cro...... NO REAL JEWEL CONTENT-Gainesville concert.. Marist show NJC: Anyone up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Hagar.." Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Jewel hits Norway 50 % is far from enough, but you make us proud by flattering the yetost, a breakfast is not complete without it. As I have not heard of any other norwegians on the list I consider myself Jewels first Norse fan (I have been on since march). Without a doubt, Jewel will be famous throughout the whole of Norway within a few years as we appreciate beauty and perfection like no others. erik \\|// (o-o) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-------o00--(_)--00o-------=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ejacobse@acs.ucalgary.ca erik.jacobsen@jcu.edu.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-= // \\ ` ~ ~ ` On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Karl M Fields wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Larry G wrote: > > > Wow, I just got back from Norway, and there's like 95 DIGESTS piled up! Our > > angel must be performing! Anyway, last Friday I went to a dinner party at > > an apartment in Oslo. I had been telling my Norwegian friends about Jewel, > > and playing tapes I made, but the coolest thing happened: at 8:00 p.m. > > Norway time, on the radio came JEWEL, singing WWSYS. What a neat feeling > > that was, plus I got everyone to listen at once. > > Cool! I feel it is my obligation to profess my Norwegian ancestry. My > mother is 100% Norwegian, so that would make me (divide by zero...carry > the one...) a whopping 50% Viking, baby. > > My great-grandparents, Irvin and Solveig Wamnes(now rowing the great big > Viking ship in the clouds) came over from Norway sometime early this > century. It seems there were a bunch of Norwegians on Long Island, because > my grandma is also one generation removed from the Old Country. > > Tired of centuries of cold, there was a mass migration of Norwegians, in > the early 70's, to Jensen Beach, Florida. The local elementary school has > a giant viking statue in the courtyard! My grandparents neighbors names > are Gerd and Leif Knudson. Every year was the annual Leif Erikson day > celbration (the climax being a bunch of sweaty men in metal and fur in > little viking ships rowing out and sailing back in a competition of wit > and strength). > > I have eaten unthinkable things for breakfast. Although I don't really > remember the Norwegian names a typical menu goes as follows: > > A healthily buttered piece of bread with a slice of hard-boiled egg and, > the clincher, some pickled herring with onions. Refered to as goffelbeter > if I remember correctly. > > Perhaps some yetoast (goats-milk cheese) sounds more appealing, or Locks > and cream cheese, or some whole sardines (for breakfast!). > > > Concensus there is that she must have descende from a Viking queen. > > I concur. > > Karl "You can always tell a Norwegian, but you can't tell him much." > Fields > > ------------------------------ From: "Hagar.." Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:14:36 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Swedes, Quasi vikings.. \\|// (o-o) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-------o00--(_)--00o-------=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ejacobse@acs.ucalgary.ca erik.jacobsen@jcu.edu.au =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= = = =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-= // \\ ` ~ ~ ` On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Karl M Fields wrote: > > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Larry G wrote: > > > > > Concensus there is that she must have descende from a Viking queen. > > > > I concur. > > > > Karl "You can always tell a Norwegian, but you can't tell him much." > > Fields > > > > You know, we have Vikings in Sweden, too... :) > > When a norwegian goes to a store, he only looks at the bottom shelves. Do > you know why? A picture of a Volvo will be sent to everyone with the > correct answer. :) > > /Alexander Stamou > > A swede is not really a viking, swimming the baltic sea is far from crossing the atlantic, conquer england, or wiping out the coast of France. Remember that you innland potatoe farmer. ------------------------------ From: "Tonya Post" <8TonAPos@MLSEM.ORG> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:14:13 EST Subject: Foolish Games (Piano Music) Hey there my fellow, EDA's! I was wondering were I can find the piano music for Foolish Games?? I'm in GREAT NEED for the piano music!! I'm suppose to perform at a Talent showcase in DEC. and I plan on singing that song! If any of you EDA's can help me out, I'll appreciate it GREATLY!! Email me back if you know where I can locate the piano music! THANKS A BUNCH!! ~<-@TONYA@->~ ------------------------------ From: brougdms@parkrapids.polaristel.net (Scott Broughton) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:57:27 -0500 Subject: NJC: Just A Thought >From: smonkman@ibl.bm >Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:17:35 -0300 (ADT) >Subject: just a observation... > >i was wondering: am i the youngest here? (i'll be 15 on Satuday)these are the >kinda thoughts that pass through my head during the day. here's another one a >them thoughts: ok, so i live in Bermuda. do any of u think Jewel would ever >come to my little island? if she did, do u think she'd stay at my house?? >again, if she did, would any of y'all come too? i'm having a sorta random day >so feel free to delete this as soon as u start!!! >love, >laurel > >------------------------------ > >End of jewel-digest V1 #637 >*************************** That may have been the only post I've enjoyed reading lately (with some exceptions like Liz's.) Flame me privately, but does anyone think we should have one of the EDA's who keeps rehashing the NJC thread lead their own list instead of bothering Jeff? Just a thought. And since I don't know any of you yet, I'd just like to tell you a little about myself and see if there's anyone else out there like me. Does anyone else like to read Christopher Pike? Does anyone run or swim (as in regularly)? Does anyone else like Jewe-oops, I guess that's obvious but sometimes I can't tell for sure, you know? It doesn't take a talent to be mean, Scott "the EDA in training" Broughton PS: When did the John "some crazy comment" Doe thing start and who started it? Or is this a common thing in mailing lists? e-mail: brougdms@parkrapids.polaristel.net midnightclub@attitude.org internet: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7887/midnightclub.html http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7887/baseoface.html "Such and injustice, as children we are told that from God we fell." - Jewel "Their precious midnight club - would there ever be another?" - - Christopher Pike, The Midnight Club ------------------------------ From: RickG14@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:58:18 -0400 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #648 hi i am rick a 15 male, who likes the cranberries more than jewel but still loves jewel just wanted to say hi ------------------------------ From: Dollphini@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:03:16 -0400 Subject: I'm new here Hello, I'm new here and I'm kinda wondering if I even sent this to the right addy. Probably not, but oh well. I think Jewel is incredibly talented. I especially like WWSYS and little sister. I am only 13, and have been listening to Jewel for 6 months. I impulsively bought Pieces of You because I became infactuated with WWSYS and felt that listening to it would get it out of my head, boy was I wrong, now I have about a dozen great songs running loose in my head. Oh well some one e mail me if they got this Amber ------------------------------ From: toni@indy.net (Toni Dunn) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 19:07:19 -0500 Subject: NJC, but read it anyway!!! Okay, I'm announcing that as far as I'm concerned, Robb is the official sweetheart of the list! I just got a get well card from him and fuzzy! Thanks Robb!- Toni "I"M GOING OUT OF MY MIND!!!!!!!- That Dog (and the story of my life) "Fuck you, I'm fed up with you, I'm not as good as you? Fuck you! I'm better than you"- Korn "You made me, promises, promises... I knew you'd never keep, why do I believe??"-Naked Eyes ------------------------------ From: "Don Davidson" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:26:50 -0400 Subject: Oct 13th Boston Show I just learned that jewel is slated as the second act at "MixFest 96" On Boston Common. The Hours on sunday are 12-7pm So if your going plan on being there at 12 just to be safe. Donnie ------------------------------ From: Ray DeJean Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:13:53 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Don't read this. On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Jay Notte wrote: > > Say, do you guys think Jewel would be tolerant of people who are > in to metal as well as her and Tori, and Bruce (Odd mix, I know. Kind of > like nitro and glycerine). I'd hate to think that I might one day be > stopped at a traffic light somewhere with "And Justice for all" playing > and she pulls up next to me and gives me the "God, what a loser" look. > This is a situation that will probably NEVER arise, but it's always been > kind of a fear of mine. A byproduct from a bad dream. > > Jay > Sure. Any good musician will recognize talent, and respect other musicians for their talent. Obviously, Jewel is a talented musician, as are the guys from Metallica. If Jewel didn't even like Metallica, surely she would respect their music, and certaintly wouldn't shun any of the listeners. BTW, WWSYS is almost the same chord circle as Metallica's Fade to Black(Am C G D). So there ya go. ;) - -Ray =-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-= Ray DeJean rdejean@neosoft.com rdejean@pwp.bluesky.net http://www.neosoft.com/~rdejean rld05@gnofn.org =-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-==-*-= ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: NJC : AOL EDA Chat & Arrrrghh... My NictneLove account is gone... *poof*... vanished.... and for those of you who know how I managed to weasel myself that little free account, never fear , the EDA Whore has her ways of getting things back :). Anyway, I'm back at my good old Cornflake Girl name for the time being.... for those of you who were wondering where I've been, let me just say school sucks. That's about it. Oh yeah, and if no-one's mentioned this yet ( seeing as I was getting the list on the other name and I have no idea what happened today ) the Jewel AOL EDA chat is on, 10 PM EST sharp :). Hopefully, I'll see you there... Je t'embrasse, Rachel ;) ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 21:24:35 -0700 Subject: Re: NJC, but read it anyway!!! Toni, Ok, I will officially 2cnd that announcement. Robb gave me the nicest hug at Jewelstock. ... next to Mike and Dennis of course. :) Selena ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 21:50:25 -0400 (EDT) Subject: not important. Adieu. Adios. Gone... So I'm leaving the list. Whoopteedoo. WHy the hell am i telling you? becasuse I have some friends here and i don't feel like emailing all of them individually? I dunno. Below are the snipped remnants of a letter I wrote a week ago in anger about leaving the list. It was a LOT pissier before I edited it today. Oh yeah, Scott Broughton, I doubt that I started the trend, but ever since I got onto mailing lists (FTE in sept of last year, jewel in dec), I almost always did the middle name thingy, just for the hell of it. I didn't know that others did it until Carter Gar Navarro started doing it too (Cole Porter anyone?). SO here is the bitch and moan below. ENjoy. I may come back to the list sometime in the future. Bye. Paul "now if i can only figure out how to unsubscribe" Kim look I spelled unsubscribe right. Twice, too! :) If I offend you at any point in this letter, please read it all the way through and then rethink whether you still wanna beat the crud out of me. You probably will still wanna do so. This is all my opinion and what I have observed. I will now write about "how it used to be" something which I generally hate to read and write, but I care little now. I joined the list in December of last year. I was clueless as to what it was all about (personality wise and structurally). I was annoying. At least, I think I was. (ed. note: yes he was; slimy little punk couldn't help it, though) I didn't get 60 messages a day from the list back then. I remember that there were less than 200 people on the list. Most posts were Jewel related, and the NJC (we didn't even have that wonderful acronym back then) that was posted was often an offshoot of a Jewel discussion (ie. similar musicians). We were a bit more of a homogenous group in terms of music and entertainment back then, before Jewel burst onto the world. There were no discussions of tv shows, movies, non-ectoish music (what the fuck does metal and rap have to do with Jewel?), beyond a couple of posts and responses that went private. We did have flame wars. The Brett Eskin fiasco, now nicely healed (yes Brett, the list has become a mutant); the Tori defense debate (involving, I believe, a Sean Hooks-ish upfront female who we didn't hear from for a while because she was in a bad accident, but someone found out what happened and organized a get-well thing from the list; that always was a nice memory for me); but they didn't drag on for more than three or four days, if even that. Back in the winter, we didn't have the same amount of off-the-cuff humor that I came to love seeing in the spring and summer. (Carter was a good guy to make me smile) Back before the summer, we had intelligent posts, thoughtful posts, at least at a much higher ratio to junk than we do now. I want to throw in the fact that I defend James Judd and Dave Dicicco (I still can't spell his last name off the top of my head) and what they wrote. I think that debates over NJC are much more pertinent to the list than NJC posts about astrological signs are. And I think that the debates take up less space than the NJC threads do. Well, except that debate that consumed the list back in August, but that became nasty. The debates help to delineate where people stand and rein in those who would write anything that came to mind to the list. But aren't they just annoying wastes of space that pit people and their opinions against each other? Well at least they reflect a concern for the list among memebers? But my words and opinion on this matter are just mine and will mean bupkis now that I am leaving. I guess that's why so many people have switched to news and why there have been so few posts defending the decrease of NJC. Because those people figure it's just easier to leave than try to rationalize with people who enjoy and are willing to spend time to send even more email to the list (when it could be done privately) debating the point. Flame on, as Johnny storm might say. Moderation. Self-moderation. That's what I'd like to practice and preach, but I'm a hypocrite. Sure NJC does give this list personality and color; it does allow people to know and connect with others. But maybe the list had personality before and maybe now it is a hydra with so many heads that it is confused and blundering; and when you try to cut off one, two more grow in its place. Maybe it's all a result of Jewel reaching a wider audience. More people of diverse tastes and ages appreciate her. Well maybe... THe list has changed. I can't say for better or for worse; I can only say that I find it to be yucky to have to wade through garbage. I used to not mind reading everything that came through the list; then I didn't want to do the chore of sifting out the unimportant stuff, but I had to read everything in case I missed a thread or info that would interest me embedded in someone's otherwise unimpressive post; now I find that I skim the lines of most letters and delete like crazy. But it still takes up hours a day. Selena, your post about the people on the list nearly brought tear to my eyes. You and Amy could be sisters of happiness, for all the joy and laughter you've brought me on the list since NH. Two of only a handful of bright spots in the miasma of uncertainty and muck that is this list. I was going to quit this list before Jewelstock (you should have Paul, and saved all these people the waste of having to read this), but hung on so that I could check out the event of the summer. The list was giving me a bad taste back then, but JS and NH relieved my mouth; but it's all come back. Paul, where has your sesnse of humor and fairness and wish to be kind gone? I don't know. I hate to think so, but I can't find too much joy in writing to this list anymore. Somewhere in the middle of the summer, while the list expanded and mutated, I lost my middle name, and with it, my funny bone in my fingers. I have been flamed. I don't remember being flamed by someone familiar with the list. I only remember newbies flaming me. I think that such things are wrong. Sure, how could they know any better, they've never been on this list before. That's why they should read the fuckin' FAQ and lurk to get the feel, the rhythm and flow (is there any left?) of the list. Not just randomly send letters to the list and try to intimidate by sheer volume everyone into accepting them. I guess I should get it off my chest. Irksome and fumbling newbies annoy me. People who can't unsubscribe properly annoy me. People who post one line responses to other posts annoy me. People who don't edit the letters they respond to annoy me. Me writing this is making my skin crawl. I am letting my feelings flow. I've been nice, cordial, apologetic, self-deprecating, but hardly ever scathing. I feel that i have earned a chance (but not the right) to bitch and piss. I can do little to change what happens here. I can voice my opinions. I can't make people understand exactly what I am saying. I can't make people follow etiquette and consideration. Don't worry, I'm leaving the list, which is why I am writing this. I have seen the mighty veterans fall and stumble and go away. Dan remains. James McGarry remains. Ken is back (but for how long?). Where is Steve Ito? Has Jeff W given up? Neile Graham decided that she didn't need to resubscribe to the list. Haven't seen much from SilverKat or Colin Stuckless in a while. Tom P is troopering on. So is Greg Dunn and Jeff Hanson. I speak for no one but myself (and i'm never in my right mind). i wonder what would happen if all the vets up and left? The list would survive, no doubt, but it would lose a sense of history. But maybe lists don't need history; maybe they are what they are right now, in the present; constant evolution shedding old skin and forming new cells. I lose my thoughts and have no points. Shut the fuck up paul. Like Kaiser Soze or more appropriately, the Man with No (middle) Name, I'm gone. there it is in most of its unfettered glory. For those of you also on Followers, Ecto, or FTE, don't worry, you'll still hear me there. Get thee to a nunnery ------------------------------ From: jewelfan@juno.com (Lizabeth A Clark) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 21:03:47 EDT Subject: bumperstickers?/ Crossroads/class motto/title Angels, I believe that duff...correct me if I am wrong... thought of this a long time ago...many of us supported her but nothing was ever done. Duff's idea was directed more to Hiranya as to get Jewel bumperstickers, but an EDA bumpersticker would be pretty sweet!!! How's about the infamous JS angel with 'Big Blue'??? That would be pretty cool!!! I would love to have a Jewel bumpersticker to put on my car that I hopefully will get in 4 months and 12 days!! ;-) I love bumperstickers!!! I already have about 6 cool ones to put on my car!!! Those of you that missed Crossroads last night, Jewel's performance will most likely be aired Saturday on the VH1's Crossroads CD release party. Guess what stupid me did? I fell asleep at 10:45 last night and woke up at 12:45!!! AHHHH I missed Crossroads!!! That is ok...I already have it on tape, but man was I urked!!!! Why do I always fall asllep when Jewel is on...I fell asleep before 120 Minutes, Letterman, Leno, and now this!!! AHHHH!!!!! Oh well. Oh...GUESS WHAT ELSE???? Every grade has its class motto that is chosen sophomore year....guess what I proposed as our motto???? "Innocence can't be lost, it just need to be maintained." The thing is that everyone likes it!!!!! We vote on the mottos next week!!! I am keeping my fingers crossed!!! Please keep those CD votes coming in!!!!!!!!!!!! I know that there are more of you out there!! I haven't gotten too many responses, so if you haven't sent one in, please do! See you all on aol tonight!!! Have a great day my precious angels!!! ~Liz o:-) "Innocence can't be lost, it just needs to be maintained." ~Jewel Kilcher Liz Clark e-mail: JEWELFAN@juno.com or JEWELFAN22@aol.com Visit me: http://www.endor.org/jewel/yearbook/entries/34.html ------------------------------ From: W1GGY2@aol.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:52:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Picture Proposal: census >>I don't think that would be a problem, though...you don't go to Sweden on your vacations, do you? :)<< Was that an invitation? Hey, everyone, party at Alex's house!! Woohoo!! Amy "that's the first time I've ever said woohoo" Neufeld ------------------------------ From: "Gerald J. Cho" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:09:24 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Jewel Songbook. I was reading Tonya's message and it got me thinking...why aren't there a songbook for POY? By songbook, I mean those book that you see in sheet music store. They usually have the chords/guitar tab, piano reduction, and the lyrics. I know Tori Amos has such books in publication, so why not Jewel. I unfortunately don't know how to play guitar but would love to play Jewel's songs on the piano. Lot of her songs can easily be reduced to piano score. Gerald *Homo jewelian* btws, Tonya is going to start a fanclub for her famous cousin. Ask her about it! ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:44:40 -0500 Subject: Re: bumperstickers?/ Cro...... >Duff's idea was directed more to Hiranya as to get Jewel bumperstickers, Glad to here that I'm not a complete copycat. >How's about the infamous JS angel with 'Big Blue'??? As long as there weren't any copyrights placed on it by managment... Do you know who designed it? l8r, Chris "Eh?" Pavek Ever notice how the moon seems the saddest when it's not there at all? ...or is that just me? ------------------------------ From: surfrank@32958.Surf.Tach.Net (Tach.Net User) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:48:12 -0400 Subject: NO REAL JEWEL CONTENT-Gainesville concert.. Ok has anyone found out any more info on the Gainesville concert? I hope there aren't too many athletic preps over there. "=) Which EDA's are goin? Igor? Selena? Akira? Mike C.? Mr.BB? hehehe I don't even know you people. It would be cool to see you all there though. For some reason I am getting nervous as the day I see Jewel in person draws nearer. I can't believe I am goin to see her NEXT WEEK!!!! What do I wear? "=) Should I wear the Tommies or the Polo? Too much stress!!! I have to move out of this house 1 week after the concert!! Everything is soooooo hectic!! But I'll be damned(sp?) if I miss this concert! I'm goin all out on this one! Not even a bad case of acne breakout is goin to stop me!!(which is exactly whats goin to happen) but it's all worth it just to see Jewel and hear her sing! I bet there will be like 50 athletic preppy college jocks there not to hear her sing but to drool. I hope she sings "Angel Needs a Ride" because that is my favorite song!! Am I correct in saying that song is one of her best ballads? Anyone got any hints,tips, or any idea how to meet Jewel backstage? I want to get close enough to have my picture taken with her. I can't wait!!!!! See yall later! SurFrank ------------------------------ From: StayMur@aol.com Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:02:12 -0400 Subject: Marist show I went to the Marist show on the 29th and it really rocked! I've seen her play longer but that's alright! The crowd was large, massive and I can't really say much for her opening band. She was great as usual and I was taking to some guy at a college fair at my school tonight from Marist and he said that she stuck around after to chill and sign autographs but I couldn't stick around cause I had a 2 hour drive home so that kinda sucked. I was wondering if Jared stuck around? I was at Temple too, so that was an incredible weekend!!! Stay Mur ------------------------------ From: "Akira" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:45:05 -0400 Subject: NJC: Anyone up? Note the return address.... I have just reopened up my old account and will be using this account for the list. That way I can do work in the labs, and have fun in my room. I just got done downloading all the messages for sept. and holy @#!! u people were busy. Akira ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #649 ***************************