From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #646 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Wednesday, 2 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 646 Today's Subjects: ----------------- NJC: Carson's comment Re: JK communication [HC] Re: NJC: Harris etc. Re: NJC: Carson's comment ?NJC/SJC? my page Re: VH-1 Crossroads cd Re: Old Jewel Question/digital Jewel Westwood one CD, $75? dumb question. Re: X Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? Re: Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? Re: Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? NJC:In my defense A comment on what Jewel said X....problem solved New EDA tradition LENEDRAS WISHES:From Alan & Mike....PLEASE READ ADC/BST: Los Angeles shows (fwd) Re: jewel-digest V1 #645 Re: jewel on crossroads, what I remember from way back when Thanks...From Alan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:30:10 -0700 Subject: NJC: Carson's comment gfabian@toolcity.net wrote: > > At first I laughed at this because I am a man and "men are the primordial > scum of the Earth." But then, I realised that if I were a woman (or more > importantly, Jewel), I would be rather offended. Maybe I'll be giving Carson > a call.... At least he thinks Jewel can kick @$$, however misguided his > logic may be ;) I don't think it's wrong to think that comment was funny at first, I can see the humor in it (however crude it may be). What pissed me off is this guy made a rude comment about someone he doesn't even know. If perhaps he were friends of Jewel and always joked with her thus knowing that she would not be offended by the commment, then I would have no problem with what he said. This, however, is not the case. I keep the rule that if you do not know someone personally, treat them as you would want others to treat your own girlfriend. Personally, if a guy made this comment about my girlfriend he would be on his knees appologizing to her right now through two black eyes with more teeth in his pocket than in his mouth. - -- Sinjin@ecn.com Lifeguard, Philosopher, Poet City of Angels JS96 ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:35:05 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: JK communication On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Alexander Stamou wrote: > Has anybody ever gotten a reply from Jewel? She's sent occasional letters > to the list, hasn't she? Does anybody still have them? Me like to > read. :) /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:42:40 EST Subject: [HC] Re: NJC: Harris etc. (HC = Harris Content) On Tue, 01 Oct 1996 12:54:35 -0700 Sinjin@ecn.com writes: >This morning I woke up to KROQ and was lying in bed hoping they would >tell me some more info on Jewel's LA appearances when an AIDS public >service announcement came on, and I swear this is how it started: >"Dennis Harris: HIV positive since 1989..." > Last night I dreamed I was at my old place of work and I walked by this guy's desk and there was a big sign on his desk that said "Harris Bros." So I sat there trying to remember what this guy's first name was (Bill) and if he was really a Harris Brother (he wasn't). Then I was yelled at for goofing off and told to put a box full of ketchup and mayonaise packets in the woman's dressing room. Which is odd because the place I worked at was an electrical cabling company. - ----- telliamed@juno.com ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 14:38:41 EST Subject: Re: NJC: Carson's comment On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 11:30:10 -0700 Sinjin said: >want others to treat your own girlfriend. Personally, if a guy made >this comment about my girlfriend he would be on his knees appologizing >to her right now through two black eyes with more teeth in his pocket >than in his mouth. >-- Sinjin my violent friend. This isn't the attitude of an Angel. This guy can't help it that he is crass, crude and conditioned to sexist comments. It's the way of the average male. You're forgetting that we EDAs are a higher class of males in the species. Besides, an angel would just tighten the harp strings around the guys neck. :) Dean "needing a new harp string" Harris ------------------------------ From: Gregory Willms Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:02:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ?NJC/SJC? my page hello all, ive worked on my page quite a bit and i must say theres quite a bit more there, and it looks a lot better. and i added a guestbook too called the "JewelBook." please feel free to drop by and sign the book! :) - -greg http://www.geocities.com/broadway/2606 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Let me have music dying, and I seek no more delight." -- John Keats - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ My many e-mail addresses: | | greg_willms@atl.checkfree.com| willms@bgnet.bgsu.edu | redphish@hotmail.com | Huxxley@aol.com | - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Jay Notte Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:38:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: VH-1 Crossroads cd Bought the Crossroads CD yesterday. The Tori video is awesome and comes through with great quality. That dog is cool, but people in the computer lab gave me weird looks when my P.C. started barking. "Bring me some water" is just a great tune. Other faves: "Drown" by Son Volt, "Solitude" by Edwin McCain. Tori doing a Bruce tune is just ecstacy for me. This version of "Foolish Games" gets me even more choked up than the album version. She pours so much emotion into it. You can actually feel the hurt in J's voice. It's a good pick up. Jay ------------------------------ From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:34:21 EST Subject: Re: Old Jewel Question/digital Jewel On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:58:40 +0600 Robb Leigh writes: >hey all, > Did Jewel ever open for Belly, cause one of my friends says she saw a >young >very pretty blonde open up for them a while ago and she ended with >yodeling....hmmmm I wonder.... > Yes, that was Jewel. She toured with Belly and Catherine Wheel about a year and a half ago (or was it longer?). When someone gets their time machine working, let me know please. That's one of my dream concerts (Jewel and Catherine Wheel). Also to go back and have a second chance at JS. On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 12:51:20 -0400 Uilleann sed... >how about a RealAudio file - would save alot on the overead. > Ohyeah... then poor ol' Alex can sit their with his ear glued to his computer speakers trying to decipher the unintelligable static warbling emenating from them. (you can tell I'm a fan of RA). MPEG-Audio. 10:1 compression, 16-bit 44kHz, there's just no other way. BTW, "Amen" digitized mono, 8-bit, 11kHz is only 700k ZIPped.... - ----- telliamed@juno.com ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: SDFAngel@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:00:02 -0400 Subject: Westwood one CD, $75? I got mine for $50. One of my contacts called me today with another one the & 7UP radio promo. This includes an interview "Pieces of You", "She Cries" and "Who Will Save Your Soul" The interview is exceptionally good in my opinion. I don't know what he is going to want for it but since I already have it I would say no unless another list member is interested. SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: venom@interaccess.com (Gerald J. Cho) Sender: owner-jewel@smoe.org To: willms@bgnet.bgsu.edu (Gregory Willms) CC: jewel@smoe.org Date: 96-10-01 23:53:43 EDT nope, this is not the infamous bootleg. Westwood one has a syndicated live radio show ("In Concert") and they recorded (with permission) Jewel's show in Boston from this past may. The cd you see in the ad is the cd that Westwood one gave to its affiliates. The cd also has the commercials included. As for the quality, it was professionally recorded so it should be very good. $75 is a lot for one cd. If you are interested, go pick up Goldmine magazine and look for a better deal. as for legality, I would equate this with STL. Both were made legally but were not meant for sale to the public. Gerald On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Gregory Willms wrote: > i just got southlands newest cd catalogue, and there a jewel cd in it > that ive decided to question. as far as i know, this could be the cd > that everyones been discussing all along... its listed as "jewel-in > concert new rock, us westwood onelove cd radio show w/cues" and it costs > $75. anyone know anything about this? > > -greg > http://www.geocities.com/broadway/2606 > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "Let me have music dying, and I seek no more delight." > -- John Keats > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > My many e-mail addresses: | > | > greg_willms@atl.checkfree.com| > willms@bgnet.bgsu.edu | > redphish@hotmail.com | > Huxxley@aol.com | > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ From: asv@po.CWRU.edu (Amelia S. Vlah) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: dumb question. Hello Angels, I have a probably old and answered question which I'm sure everyone knows but me, but I'm gonna ask anyway. Jewel recorded a new album this summer, yes? so I recall hearing it was comming out in the fall.... is this true? has it been out for weeks and I'm so clueless as to miss it? anyone with this info, please share! THANKS! Peace, Mia! ~~~~~ Vale et me ama, Amelia S. Vlah *turtle* asv@po.cwru.edu " The past is consumed in the present and the present is living only because it brings forth the future. " J.Joyce ------------------------------ From: SDFAngel@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:06:11 -0400 Subject: Re: X I'm not heavily into ethics but this action is wrong. From here I would lecture my girlfriend, then let it slide. If that doesn't do your concience justice then I'd right an anonamous letter to store X explaining the situation and asking how to go about returning a stolen item. Then get a friend to volunteer his or her address. I'll volunteer mine if you like. They can respond to this address explaining how to return the jacket anamously. Hope this helped. SuPeRdEfOrMeD aNgEl ------------------------------ From: altman@brooktree.com (Erik Altman) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 13:25:48 PDT Subject: Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? Since Jeff brought up the "Swedish Song", which happens to be one of my all-time Jewel favorites, I was wondering if anybody has a recording of it. If so I'd LOVE to get a copy, irregardless of the quality. Every show I'm at I scream out for her to play it, but either my lungs are of poor capacity or she just chooses not to acknowledge my wish...That song sent shivers down my spine & I miss that! (Not to say some of her other songs don't do that.) This song is a great example of Jewel's expressiveness, not through WHAT she says, but HOW she says/plays it, since I personally had no clue what the words meant! - -Erik ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:30:52 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Erik Altman wrote: > Since Jeff brought up the "Swedish Song", which happens to be one of my > all-time Jewel favorites, I was wondering if anybody has a recording of > it. > If so I'd LOVE to get a copy, irregardless of the quality. Every show I'm Now I'm getting REALLY curious about this song... > at I scream out for her to play it, but either my lungs are of poor > capacity or she just chooses not to acknowledge my wish...That song sent > shivers down my spine & I miss that! (Not to say some of her other songs > don't do that.) > > This song is a great example of Jewel's expressiveness, not through WHAT > she says, but HOW she says/plays it, since I personally had no clue what > the words meant! > > -Erik > Just let me have it...just...arrghh! :) /Alexander "too short to be the perfect son-in-law" Stamou ------------------------------ From: altman@brooktree.com (Erik Altman) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 13:53:03 PDT Subject: Re: Swedish Song: Anybody have a Copy?????? Thanks to everyone who has responded to my desperate plea for Jewel's only song in a foreign language. I guess I need to read the playlist for the JS tapes a bit closer, since it appears to be on it! YEAH! My soul is saved...and I didn't even have to do it! Ha! Now I just gotta get my bootay out from behind this bloody terminal and down to the postoffice to mail out my blank tapes. - -Erik ------------------------------ From: Alexander Stamou Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:27:20 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: NJC:In my defense At least I don't write long, boring letters (no offense to those who do). :) /Alexander "This won't take any space" Stamou ------------------------------ From: Shaun Jackson Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:54:44 -0700 Subject: A comment on what Jewel said I have been wondering when i went to see jewel a her conseret on puyallup when she was singing POY she stoped and said that if we all hold hands and have lighters? in aour mouths (i don't remeber all that she said mabey all the other edas that were there) and sung with we would heal the world. I just trying to figure out how are we sopposed to heal the world by singing with lighters in our mouths when we all a re holding hands. Have you ever tried to sing with a lighter in your mouth. I keep burning my moustash and eyebrows.:) Mabey somebody can help me with this problem? random ------------------------------ From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 16:49:42 EDT Subject: X....problem solved hi all. thanks for your help. boyfriend talked with girlfriend on phone last night and all is good now. btw... i was desperate for JC... that's why the WWSYS reference was used.. - -rusty someone mentioned something about melissa etheridge releasing a cd of women by her self.... umm... i've never heard of this.. but... i have seen... [go go gadget flame sheilds] a bootleg cd at a local store of melissa etheridge which does include the entire "vh-1 duets" show on cd... which of course i did not buy! :) - -rusty ------------------------------ From: Selena Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:49:51 -0700 Subject: New EDA tradition At Jewelstock, Barry and I offered our bathroom facilities to THE Dan Stark. Well, Dan showered.. but forgot his towel. It is a nice plush green and white striped towel. I'll bet he paid a pretty penny for it. I've treated the towel as a souvenier. With the "Dan Stark Fan Club" in existence, I even figure it might send my kids through college.. The towel accompanied me to the NH show. I proudly showed it off to several EDAs. When Liz and Shelly spent the night here, I offered the towel to Liz for her shower. That is when we came up with this great idea. I signed and dated the towel with the date that I came into possession of it. I hosted Liz in my home, she signed it and dated it. Her job is to either host an EDA in her home, or pass it on to another host.. who will sign and date it. Got it? It is not to be mass signed.. just the EDA's who host, or are hosted. Pretty cool. The object is for the towel to eventually make it back to Dan Stark. With thousands of signatures! Selena ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:14:59 -0400 Subject: LENEDRAS WISHES:From Alan & Mike....PLEASE READ Hi all EDAs, As some of you know, various situations have developed behind the scenes, that are preventing the distribution of Jewelstock Tapes from being the totally pleasurable experience that it should be. I personally have been approached both before & after JewelStock, by people obviously trying to get the tapes for the wrong reasons (bootleg manufacturing & sales). For the most part, it hasn't been too difficult a problem, because most were not even on the list. They were simply told to go away. However one person ON THE LIST presented Mike & I with a BIG moral dilemma. He offered to buy tapes from the masters in order to make CDs. This was an obviously bad move on his part. Since then he's claimed he won't do it, but I could not let this go by without being concerned for Jewel's best interests first. (I love being a listmember & enjoy related list projects, but my primary responsibility is to Jewel & Lenedra.) Added note from Mike: I too have shared that responsibility to Jewel & Lenedra in this project, that is one reason we had to set deadlines, for which we received *some* flak. It was partially to weed out possible bootleggers who just heard of the tapes and signed on JUST to get them. Our responsibilities included eliminating obvious bootleg CD potential. Both Mike & I spent a considerable amount of time & money on long distance phone discussions, wondering how best to deal with this list member/CD maker situation. Since this person was on the list, we wanted to avoid any bad feelings...it wasn't easy. I've corresponded with Lenedra periodically about these things. It pained me to do it, but I felt it my responsibility. Today, Lenedra called me. We spent some time discussing the situation. Jewel & Lenedra's position on bootlegs & this related dilemma are now perfectly clear. First let me tell you, without any room left for doubt, they DO NOT want ANY CDs made of this material, PERIOD. Do NOT have them made even for your OWN listening pleasure. Bootleggers have been known to employ CD manufacturers to let them "know when something interesting comes along". They could make a copy for a bootlegger without you even knowing it. Lenedra has asked me to relay to the list that ALL available LEGAL action will be taken in regards to anyone found to be involved in either the MANUFACTURING or SALE of unauthorized Jewel CDs. This is *serious* folks. No one is against the fun we have trading tapes. That is done FREELY & it's understood that trading is OK. But this CD stuff is a whole different thing & definitely will reflect BADLY on the list should it be condoned or promoted. Unfortunately, the one list member who has lost our trust will be excluded from participation in the JewelStock Tapes tree. I'm sure he can get tapes on his own, & we can only hope that out of caring for the list & Jewel, he does nothing illegal. This list member does claim to love the list & respect Jewel. I sincerely want to believe him. (Me too - Mike) I feel bad that this situation happened, but now everything is clear on Jewel & Lenedra's position concerning these tapes. I just want everyone to simply enjoy the tapes in the spirit that they were given. Love 'em but respect the wishes of the giver....Jewel. I understand that as of today, all but one branch has their tapes in hand or done & on the way. We turn it over to the branches to take care of the leafs. And the leafs to take care of newbies. Mike & my part of this is essentially done. We have done our best. It is now up to each EDA to simply enjoy the tapes & do your individual part to keep them safe. Mike & I sincerely hope we can all get past this low spot & get back to the things that made this list great: Friendship, Respect & Great Music! Mr BB (Alan) The Tape Nazi (Mike) ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:55:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: ADC/BST: Los Angeles shows (fwd) this is a forward from the ani and sarah lists. I was unsure about the Jewel date. I envy youse peoples that can go to these shoes. Paul Kim Hey all you LA music lovers, just thought I'd update you on our music scene here. Fri 10/4 7pm: Shawn Colvin Virgin Megastore, Los Angeles (Sunset) Fri 10/4 9pm: Melissa Ferrick Swing Cafe, West Hollywood Sat 10/5 7pm: Jewel, J.Osbourne CSU-Dominguez Hills (TicketMaster) Mon 10/7 7pm: Patti Rothberg* House of Blues, West Hollywood Thu 10/17 8pm: Dar Williams** Troubadour, West Hollywood & 9:45pm: Dar Williams Fri 10/25 8pm: Ani DiFranco Wiltern Theatre, Los Angeles Tu 10/29 ???: Melissa Ferrick Little Frida's Coffee House, West Hollywood * Patti is opening for Midnight Oil (previously scheduled for the Roxy) ** Dar was previously scheduled for the John Anson Ford Theatre. Virgin Megastore(213) 650-8666 Swing Cafe (310) 652-8838 House of Blues (213) 848-5100 Troubadour (310) 276-6168 Wiltern Theatre (213) 380-5005 Little Frida's Coffee House (310) 854-5421 ------------------------------ From: KMorgan632@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:55:19 -0400 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #645 Yes JEWEL did open for Belly way back when . I was there. :o) ------------------------------ From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 20:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: jewel on crossroads, what I remember from way back when On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robb Leigh wrote: > Robb - watching the new Marylin Manson video "Beautiful People" and > wondering if they like Floyd... Yeah! Floyd is a funny guy! Making bongs out of Honey Bottles shaped like bears and stuff. Who, you might ask? Floyd from true romance, dammit! ok, so. Way back when Jewel played at the Iron Horse in Northampton in January, she said that she had just recorded the crossroads thing and done YWMFM, Foolish Games, and a new one (I believe it was Fat Boy), and she sounded like they were all going to be shown on the show when it aired. Well, this was what I wrote after it aired on February 1: From: PAUL KYUSAM KIM Date: Fri, 02 Feb 1996 00:20:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: did I beat anybody to the punch? Arghhhhhh!!! I am so disappointed! The crossroads show was...ughh. The editing was terrible. They cut off the intro-hosting with Jewel to start the new Tori video (I thought the video was cool, but why did they have to cut Jewel talking?) and the beginning of Foolish Games was cut off, too. Nothing truly enlightening was asked of Jewel. And they only broadcast one of the three songs that she recorded for them! They did do that little song-credit-title thingy that they do for all videos when they showed Foolish Games, so I hope they play all three songs as vidoes soon. The piano trio that played with her was ok, but the pianist was a bit annoying in the rushing of tempos that classical artists are prone to do (and I should know since I am one such person). well, i wanted to get that off my chest. paul kim ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:20:12 -0400 Subject: Thanks...From Alan Hi all one more time, Because it ran long on the last one, I didnt get a chance to give serious thanks to some very important people. Many people contributed to the general success of this project behind the scenes. Dan Stark was crucial in getting this whole idea going, organization, dubbing & tricking us into thinking it was possible :-). Colin Stuckless, administrator of previous trees, was an immense help in figuring out how to actually keep track of such a beast. Andrew Levstien came through in the clinche, when WDST fell through on the Backyard Barbecue tapes. Skinny Pete for his video work. Thanks to those, nothing was lost & much audience participation is audible. Dennis Harris for great j-card work. The crowning touch in my opinion. And believe it or not----The voice of reason when we needed it on more than one occasion. Over 30 Branches also deserve a HUGE amount of credit! They will take care of so many! Jeff Wasilko, lists-owner for putting up with us at all! AmyJo for putting our lives on hold for the past few months without killing me.(I know how to suck up when its in my own best interest!) Lastly, Mike of course. He's amazing. There is no way I could begin to do what he's accomplished here. They said it couldnt be done......Well, I know he'll chime in with his own feelings, but I know where blood brothers permanently now. The "last quarter" is a very busy time for me. I do a lot of commercial production and its that pre-holiday meltdown time once again. I'll be lurking about & I welcome private mail. If I hear anything of interest, I'll pass it on. Mr BB (Alan) ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #646 ***************************