From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #611 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Tuesday, 24 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 611 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: njc - surprised Igor didn't mention it Re: The A-Team Re: njc Re: wierd Re: NJC: Re: Skinny Pete, etc. Re: wierd Re: KITT, the acronym Re: wierd NJC: Re: a new poll... NJC: Bored and Whining Puyallup Fair Review Re: NJC: Bored and Whining YWMFM is on. YWMFM YWMFM Video Re: ATTN: CENTRAL FLORIDA EDA'S/ywmfm Re: NJC: Another Sagittarian update 100% NJC: Re: NJC: Re: Skinny Pete, etc. Re: NJC: New web page addition You DO have a chance with Jewel! (Was Re: Jewel's a lesbian?) Jewel concert in Gainesville is FREE! (at least I think so) Origin of "Fish Dont Know They're Short...." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:43:43 EST Subject: Re: njc - surprised Igor didn't mention it On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:24:34 -0700 Victor Igor Wasylczenko writes: > >Bruce Springsteen was born September 23, 1949 to the proud parents of >Doug and Adele Springsteen, 87 Randolph Street, Freehold,NJ. He was >born at Monmouth Memorial Hospital. Anything else you want to know. > What was his birth weight? >Jewel credits the influence of Springsteen's "Nebraska" for one of her >songs. > "Ride Away" Today is also the 75th anniversary of the Band-Aid. 'He says he's gonna teach me about life He said, "A man needs a car and a boy needs a bike"' - ----- telliamed@juno.com ***Send me your age, gender, species, and occupation for the EDA Census. ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:51:45 -0500 Subject: Re: The A-Team >Wow, this is scary. And to think I started it. *hanging head in shame* >> >> Chris Pavek wrote: And I replied to it. :\ Chris "learning to look before you reply" Pavek "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:57:40 -0500 Subject: Re: njc Re: wierd >So how does one go about heisting a promo poster of jewel from >a record store... er cd store. Go up to a clerk or stock boy and ask him... "What do you do with the promo posters after you're done with them?" With any luck he/she'll say we throw them away. If this is the case, you can probably scam it from the manager if you're really nice to them. Although, I've found that quite a few stores let their employees have first dibs on posters. In rare cases, the management is required to send the posters back to the record label. But most of the time just asking will get you your poster. If not... break out the glass cutters and the ski mask. >:-) Chris "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: Stephen Ivy Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:02:03 -0500 Subject: Re: NJC: Re: Skinny Pete, etc. STEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVES TEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVEST EVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTE VESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEV ESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVE STEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVES TEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVEST EVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTE VESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEVESTEV ESTEVE Coyote for the day "The space bar is and evil thing" - Stephen Ivy yes you've all finally made me blow a fuse Stephen (you're friendly, neigborhood, EDA android) Ivy At 12:47 AM 9/24/96 -0400, you wrote: >Mike you unfortunately wrote: > >>I just remembered SkinnyPete has the name Steve< > > > > >AAHHH, DAMN YOU MIKE CONNELL. Now you've told everyone my true identity. I >will no longer be able to do good in the world without everyone giving me >praise and charities. DAMN YOU MIKE CONNELL. > > > - Skinny "Don't call me Steve" Pete > >P.S. OK, you can call me Steve, I mean that IS how Lenedra introduced me to >Jewel, so ALL IS FORGIVEN MORTALS !!!!! > > ------------------------------ From: telliamed@juno.com (Pat Brown) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:18:55 EST Subject: Re: wierd On Mon, 23 Sep 1996 14:10:45 -0400 (EDT) Jacob Richard Hirsch writes: > >So how does one go about heisting a promo posted of jewel from >a record store... er cd store. >waiting on jewelstock tapes... >byee! > Whine, beg, plead, grovel, kiss feet, offer burnt sacrifices, atone for your sins, offer yourself as a personal slave, sleep with the manager. Or, if you're not up to that. Just ask. - ----- telliamed@juno.com ***Send me your age, gender, species, and occupation for the EDA Census. ### All opinions expressed are yours. You have only yourself to blame. ### ------------------------------ From: MrNoctrnl@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:13:56 -0400 Subject: Re: KITT, the acronym I do believe that KITT is an acronym for Knight Industries Two Thousand... I remember KARR as being the evil twin, but forget that acronym... Hey, let's all watch some "Dukes of Hazzard" re-runs on the Nashville Network! Oh, them Dukes, them Dukes! Duncan, EDA size XL ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:30:27 -0500 Subject: Re: wierd >Whine, beg, plead, grovel, kiss feet, offer burnt sacrifices, atone for >your sins, offer yourself as a personal slave, sleep with the manager. All of this stuff will work too. Commonly called social engineering. :-) Chris "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:30:46 -0500 Subject: NJC: Re: a new poll... >Well, I never knew cats panted...I kinda never saw a cat working very hard >when it doesn't have to. ***Creating image of Garfield sleeping with his head in his dish.*** Cats do, however, have an uncontrolable urge to pounce on things smaller than them. Of course, their ability to distinguish size greatly diminishes when catnip is involved. Then couches seem to be the object of choice. > Goldfish Don't Bounce... ***Creating Very Odd Mental Image*** What about the gold fish in the Faith No More video?? Or is that jumping? Flopping?? Chris "the bouncing goldfish" Pavek "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: Ben Scott Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: NJC: Bored and Whining Howdy all. Just in case everyone out there who does not ignore NJC posts has not had enough of me in the past day (I hope there are a couple of you, this IS only my second post in as many days) here is another message from me to brighten your day/night. I'm writing about.... Jeez, when are they going to stop overplaying WWSYS and putting on YWMFM? I've seen it a total of one time, whereas I can see WWSYS thirty times a day. Man... Well, I'm writing about a subject that might concern a couple of you out there, but maybe not. This subject is college, specifically how it relates to high school juniors. Why is it that they (the aforementioned juniors) are not allowed to attend college classes at a real college but are instead stuck in the pathetically infantile (regarding learning at least) realm of high school? This question is an interesting one, one that I have had running through my head for the past month. If anyone who is reading this recalls my first post (which will be interesting; my memory has decided to fail me) they might remember that I attended college courses over the summer. This was my first taste of the college experience; I loved it. All my educational experiences before this had mainly consisted of "That's not a number two pencil," "You were supposed to have a FIVE subject notebook," and "You didn't keep an assignment notebook!" This is by no means an exhaustive list, my point being that school has always seemed lame to me as it seemed to be concerned more with what kind of paper I wrote my essay on than what my essay contained, with my failure to keep a perfectly organized binder rather than how good the contents of said binder were. I hope you see my point. And I will not begin to delve into the dark quagmire that is the social aspect. College was great. They worried about none of the above; if you did your work and could turn it in, you were okay. I loved it. After taking these classes (and recieving grades of 3.8 and 3.6) it did not seem in my best interests to return to high school. I was instead prepared to enter a program called "Running Start" wherein a high school junior or senior elects to take classes at a community college and recieves both credit in high school as well as college, and the high school pays for tuition (a plus as any of you college students would know). Most students enter running start hoping to be able to transfer to a four-year college as a junior when they would normally be graduating high school. I did not. I simply found that college was more condusive to my learning abilities and would like to recieve high school credit through college classes, I would not worry about transferring as a junior. My counselor, however, had other ideas. When I proposed my plan to him, he looked at me and said "Colleges frown on running start." When I queried this, he responded: "They just do." At this I said something to the effect of "I don't care, please enroll me in running start (at this point it seemed my chances of continuing in college were slim, and returning to high school was not a happy prospect; it was analogous to tasting ice cream and being forced forever after to eat frozen yougurt, or to travelling the world and then being thrown in jail)." To which he said: "No, I've gotta sign your application and I won't." and that was it. I have since confronted him a total of five times, each time resulting in about the same thing; we won't pay for it. Needless to say, this kills my plans and I have been stuck in an endless monotony of AP and honors classes, that except in the case of the AP classes, I will have to repeat in college later. It is not fun. If any of you are still reading, I will now close with this: I now hate high school and would sell a kidney to go to college. Could any of you kindly and compassionate EDAs out there give a oppressed high school student any advice or perhaps come strong-arm a certain counselor? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks for your valuable time and please forgive the enormity of this post, I just needed to vent. Still a high school student, Ben Scott PS- And I couldn't even get a date to homecoming! ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 23:40:15 -0700 Subject: Puyallup Fair Review Jewel get's a "3 Angels" rating for the Puyallup fair! Cussing Count: only 2 _ _ _ _ (_) _ _ (_) _ _ (_) _ / \ O / \ / \ O / \ / \ O / \ / \/ \/ \ / \/ \/ \ / \/ \/ \ \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / /_______\ /_______\ /_______\ Before you jump all over me, here's why she didn't get that 4th Angel: Her singing was great, but not excellent not due to a lesser performance on her part but mainly because of the venue and the audience. Let me explain. She sang in a large outdoor stadium and the acoustics weren't that good. Not an excellent sound system. Plus Sinjin is a complete Southern California wimp and being outdoor in Seattle froze his toes off! As for the audience, more people were there to see the Goo Goo Dolls (who sucked!) than Jewel and they seemed turned off with her first few songs, several left halfway through her show. Perhaps she should've started off with something harder than "PoY" and "Little Sister" but hey, if they don't appreciate good music...Frisbee Them!! Here's the setlist: Pieces of You Little Sister Deep Water (Slower than normal, I prefer the harder/faster tempo) I'm Sensitive Near You Always ***Band comes out*** Satellite (no T-bone, but Mark shredded as always!) Fading Away Sometimes it be that Way Foolish Games (With the band? Whoa...Sinjin approves!) Love Me Just Leave Me Alone ***Band leaves*** Chime Bells (more later) ***End set*** ***1 Encore*** (or 2, according to Harris Math) Who Will Save Your Soul (with band) As for "Chime Bells", the crowd went ballistic when she first started yodeling. But when she ended it with turbo speed yodelling it was dead silent! Then everyone erupted in applause as she finished the song. Looks like she enjoyed playing it too. Some highlights: - -She messed up the words to "SIBTW" again, WHERE WERE YOU TOM? This time instead of *forgetting* "Aphrodite and her neon lamp..." she *repeated* this line for the next "paragraph" (I have absolutely no knowledge of song composition, stansa/verse/line/whatever) - -Halfway through "PoY" she said "World peace would prevail because certain politicians would drop dead" then corrected herseld by saying "No, not drop dead but just have an awakening" <---paraphrased - -She didn't mention Delores singing "Fagot", maybe she didn't want to upset her. Anyone notice this in her other recent concerts? - -Mr. Farthingham was there! Ooohhh! ;) - -She was sick, you could tell when she talked, but it didn't really show through in her singing. She blew her nose once too, so don't be tweaking it anytime soon or you'll get sick, Akira! - -SINJIN'S MOST FAVORITE MOMENT: She changed the words to "Satellite" to "Cute guys in crew cuts and their big long surfboards" Now, take out the "cute" part and remember the line "powerbars and volleyball" and the fact that "Satellite" was written about LA, there is FAR too much coincidence to believe that this song was not written about me! I just cut my hair short this summer, AND bought a longboard! Not to mention my nickname at work is Satellite...hmmm As far as the bands that opened up for Jewel go, I missed most of Todd Snider and the Nervous Wrecks performance, but their songs were pretty good, and Todd Snider sure knew how to work the crowd! Goo Goo Dolls sucked, in case I didn't mention it before. Disappointing since people told me they're pretty good live. Another thing, not related to Jewel. Have I offended the baggage gods? And if so, how do I appease them? When I flew to Jewelstock one of my bags got lost, and today flying back from Seattle my luggage took a short vacation in Sacramento. This only happens when I fly to a Jewel concert...maybe the airline people are jealous? Finally, I didn't see any EDA's there, even though one of 'em was standing right next to me and saw my Jewelstock T-shirt but didn't say anything to me (as confirmed by an email, but I'll keep the name secret so I don't embarass MORGAN!!!) Here's the deal: We are all good people* We don't bite!** If you see us wearing a Jewelstock T-shirt, come up and say "Hi, I'm and EDA!" and introduce yourself. The only reason one has for not doing so is embarassment, so to fix this problem I think we should ALL embarass via email anyone who does not identify themselves at a concert! ;) * -except Dennis Harris ** -except Dennis Harris...and maybe Dog Boy - -- * * \____/ "Guys in crew cuts with their big long surfboards" / JS \ "Powerbars and volleyball..." \ 96 / -Jewel, "Satellite" |__| / \ / \ Sinjin@ecn.com ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 01:55:41 -0500 Subject: Re: NJC: Bored and Whining > If any of you are still reading, I will now close with this: I now >hate high school and would sell a kidney to go to college. I took you two years of high school to realize you hated it? You may be in Honors/AP courses but that's plain pathetic. I knew from the second I stepped through the door. > EDAs out there give a oppressed high school student >any advice or perhaps come strong-arm a certain counselor? Just play with their heads for your last (two?) year. There are some really great pranks that can make the time go by quicker (especially if your school has their ceilings divided into those 2'x3' squares). Epoxy comes in real handy, too. That stuff has endless posibilities. If you want more ideas, drop me a line. l8r Chris p.s. Had a couple of friends go to UW through running start. They swear by it. Your conselor is dishing you BS in a big way. "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:10:44 -0500 Subject: YWMFM is on. YWMFM is on! Talk about weird... surfing through the channels I get this urge to change to VH1 and I catch the last of Blues Traveler....... then JEWEL comes on 2 seconds later!! Quick! Gotta push record!!! ARRRGGHHH!!! WRONG TAPE!!!! By the time I get my tape in it's 30 seconds into the song. I'll just wait till next time. :-\ Chris "really frustrated" Pavek "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: kulisu@arn.net (Chris Pavek) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 02:11:54 -0500 Subject: YWMFM Welp folks... it's not on anymore. :( Hmm... would this constitute a waste of bandwidth? Chris "Sitting on the fencepost to watch the storm roll in... and terrified of the damage it will bring when it begins... It will begin!" -- Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 00:21:10 -0700 Subject: YWMFM Video I finally saw it!!! My life is complete, I can die now. Wait, no...I gotta get the Jewelstock tapes first! ...and I gotta listen to them too, before I rest eternally! Doh! Forgot about Jewel's next CD this January, can't die just yet! Oh, and I still gotta go surfing with Jewel before I die! And don't forget the Jewelstock 10 year anniversary! ...and I gotta outlive Dennis Harris so I can "inherit" the Jewel/RHCP guitar pics! Wow, guess I'll have to live a fruitfull and productive long life after all. Oh well. - -- Sinjin@ecn.com Lifeguard, Philosopher, Poet City of Angels JS96 ------------------------------ From: jewelknight@juno.com (Jennifer B Duggan) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 03:29:39 EDT Subject: Re: ATTN: CENTRAL FLORIDA EDA'S/ywmfm Why do I always miss the good stuff? I went away Thursday so I didn't know I coulda taped the Wizard of Oz although I probably don't get that station- but what is this UF Jewel concert?!?!? AHH!!!!!!! -jenn:) "Go about my business, I'm doin' fine Besides, what would I say if I had you on the line?" - -"You Were Meant For Me" by Jewel Kilcher ------------------------------ From: jewelknight@juno.com (Jennifer B Duggan) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 03:29:39 EDT Subject: Re: NJC: Another Sagittarian update Okay. I'll admit- I'm a Sagittarian- December 20th, as a matter of fact. Where's Roger? We have the same birthday. :P "Go about my business, I'm doin' fine Besides, what would I say if I had you on the line?" - -"You Were Meant For Me" by Jewel Kilcher On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 01:52:33 -0400 Harrisbros@aol.com writes: >Harris, Selena, Loki, Karl, Jay, Erik, Brenda, Skinny Pete... > >A thundering herd of galloping Sagittarians! More, we need MORE! >(Those Aquariusians aren't far behind...) > > >-- Dennis (yah! giddy yup!) Harris > ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 06:07:30 -0400 Subject: 100% NJC: Re: NJC: Re: Skinny Pete, etc. SkinnyPete@aol.com wrote: > >I just remembered SkinnyPete has the name Steve< > AAHHH, DAMN YOU MIKE CONNELL. Now you've told everyone my true identity. Sorry Skinnyman, at least I didn't reveal where the SkinnyCave was. Mike ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 04:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: NJC: New web page addition This is a beautiful page. I actually checked it out before Greg mentioned it, due to his previous recommendation of her CD. I'd highly recommend her music as well. I love the leaves. n.p: Mary Black - Looking Back n.r: Michael King - Lorien Lost Take care, Tom e-mail: provent@pls.lib.ca.us "All these words are not a rescue in my eyes" "If there's been a way to build it, there'll be a way to destroy it" On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Greg Dunn wrote: > Angels, > > Just though I'd mention an addition to my page: a link to the home page of > talented musician and friend Carrie Newcomer. Her new album, out on > Rounder Records, was featured at the album release party concert last > Thursday (that's why I missed the AOL chat). Enjoy, and feel free to ask > for further info on this wonderfully talented lady. > > > -- > | Greg Dunn | "Information is not knowledge; | > | GregDunn@aol.com | knowledge is not wisdom; | > | gregdunn@indy.net | wisdom is not truth." | > | Greg@gdunn.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil | -- Frank Zappa | > > > ------------------------------ From: Ronald Lazo Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 07:41:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: You DO have a chance with Jewel! (Was Re: Jewel's a lesbian?) Oh, excuse me. How was I supposed to know you guys discussed this already. I'm a newbie. Personally, I don't care if she's gay or not. In response to Chopped Liver's comment on "You don't have a chance anyway.", I've got good news for all EDAs who do have a sexual attraction to Jewel. Technically, you DO have a chance. Sure, it's a small chance (1 in a million), but it's a chance right? Of course, your chances can increase depending on how well-known you are (famous or infamous). Pure, simple statistics. What? You say she has boyfriend? So what? She wrote in that poem in the jacket of the CD that she cheated on her boyfriends. Hey, once infidelity, always infidelity (or something like that). :) Ronald On Mon, 23 Sep 1996, Chopped Liver wrote: > > The following is entirely my opinion: > Oh no, not again! This has been discussed and laid to rest. It is not > true, but the consensus of the group was "who cares? It has nothing to do > with her music." The only "evidence" ever presented was that whe has > been seen wearing a rainbow belt. Well, guess what? She likes rainbows. > So do I. One of her songs was on a compilation put out by Out magazine, > and she has done some Aids/gay/lesbian related benefits (I think). Again, > this has no bearing on her orientation. Does doing Farm-aid make her a > rancher? > > Just sit back and enjoy the music. And, if you have sexual fantasies > about her, don't let rumors spoil them. You don't have a chance anyway. > Have a nice day. (: > > Chopped Liver (Charlie) > watkins@selway.umt.edu > > I always thought the worst questions were those I couldn't answer. > Now I know they are the ones I can never ask. > > ------------------------------ From: Ronald Lazo Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:00:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Jewel concert in Gainesville is FREE! (at least I think so) Yes, the concert is for free. Are there any other Everyday Angels going? I know there are 2 other people going. ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 08:44:32 -0400 Subject: Origin of "Fish Dont Know They're Short...." Hi all, A few people have written me asking whether the (possibly) proposed album title of "Fish Don't Know They're Short, They Just Feel Sideways" is some inside joke. If not, they ask, where might it have come from? Some of the other title considerations obviously came from Jewel's song lyrics & this one is no exception. "FDKTS,TJFS" is a line in the seldom heard song "Buttercup". The best version of this song (that I know of) is included on the Jewelstock tapes. Mr BB ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #611 ***************************