From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #555 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 9 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 555 Today's Subjects: ----------------- jewelstock in print NJC - poetry corner Re: Jewel Duets, Just Stop new Jewel thread Re: An article about Tori Amos Re: NJC: misuse of "Ironic" Re: NJC: Why so emotional? Re: All Angels, PLEASE read this :) Re: note from a semi-lurker Re: new Jewel thread Re: An article about Tori Amos Re: new Jewel thread GENERAL... YWMFM video?/See Sassy [VERY VERY VERY NJC - MAXIMIZE WINDOW - so shoot me] Info needed..please help! Re: Is it just me... Re: YWMFM video?/See Sassy You're so small Re: VERY NJC: Metallica Re: Jewel Duets, and a ditty about Metallica ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: toni@indy.net (Toni Dunn) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:04:07 -0500 Subject: jewelstock in print Okay, if you want to be part of this you must act fast! Four friends (myself included) are starting up a "anything goes" kind of zine. the first issue should be out by halloween and is going to include lots of poetry, book and music reviews, art, bitch sessions, an interview with My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Hanzel and Gretel, The Mergrins, and a write up on Jewelstock. So anyone wishing to share their (brief) stories send them to me and I just might include it. If someone has a letter of the initial letter announcing jewelstock I would really appreciate having it. Thanks a lot!- Toni I say I may be back, you know what lies are for- Sylvia Plath So now she's sitting in the bedroom and she's crying.- Jewel God made everything from nothing, but the nothingness shows through. Don't place faith in human beings, human beings aren't reliable things.- Machines of loving grace ------------------------------ From: Simmons Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 23:47:03 -0600 Subject: NJC - poetry corner Hi everyone! Well, today, I'm going to share some of my poetry with the group. I'm not very good at writing serious poetry, so don't expect anything deep (or good :) ). The first one was written almost three years ago, and the other was written earlier this year. I welcome all comments! "Feeding the Dog" What are people good for Anyway? The house is huge But I have to share. They feed me When they remember to. Maybe even a Milkbone That tastes like low-salt Wheat Thins. They feed me. That's why I keep them around. But I miss The taste of a warm kill That my instincts tell me about. They feed me. But it is old, stale, from a bag. I want bloody flesh. Why don't they feed me that? They feed me. But not what I want. I think I will eat The people. This will be my house. They will be my food. They will feed me. "Sonnet #1" This sonnet's not done very well. No deep meaning, no theme, and no plot. Of love I soon promise to tell. But if this was turned in I'd be shot. Love is a many splendored thing (Look, I've already stolen a line). And all kinds of joys can it bring. Life needs love like a fork needs its tine. I've been writing lines just for the rhyme. A bad habit, but what can I do? I am successfully wasting your time. But I beseech of thee, please do not sue. I really haven't yet talked about love. This is a sonnet and a crow is a dove. Thanks everyone! Because the Llama told me to -Loki ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:10:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Jewel Duets, Just Stop > "California Dreamin'", Jewel and Elton John > or maybe, David Bowie > (originally by The Mamas and the Papas) Dear Lord have mercy on my angel lovin' soul a duet between Jewel and David Bowie (fluttering of heart and batting of eyelashes). Ditto on the Sting duet... Okay, I can't stand it anymore. I am throwing myself onto the lame newbie block for this one but I jsut have to ask. What the hell does "NJC" and "JC" stand for? It is used constantly and I can't fathom for the life of me what you people are talking about. (burning red face of utter and sheer embarrassment". Thanks bunches n'hugs n' kisses n' smooches n' stuff.... SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter P.-on-the-S. Superdeformed Angel is my new friend...... ------------------------------ From: Simmons Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 00:09:09 -0600 Subject: new Jewel thread I have an idea - since we don't want to compare Jewel to other musicians anymore, let's start comparing her to people that have nothing to do with music or poetry. To start with, how about Rene Descartes, the inventor of geometry. Who's better, him or Jewel? Discuss! :P Because the Llama told me to -Loki ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:23:06 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: An article about Tori Amos The guy who write in bitching about Tori Amos was way off, and I agree with Chelsea (can I call you chelsea?) that we should all write him back. Just in case, his adress is (again) violet13@fc.net SenztvRtst ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:33:03 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: NJC: misuse of "Ironic" > does meet the definition of another, also rather common, kind of irony. > According to Webster's New World Dictionary, third college edition, > definition #3, irony is "a combination of circumstances or a result that is > the opposite of what is or might be expected or considered appropriate". > Regardless of how one might feel about Alanis' value as a musician, her use > of irony is flawless. > Because the Llama told me to > -Loki > > Right on, sister....preach it SenztRtst ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:34:22 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: NJC: Why so emotional? > <<>> > > I hereby motion for "capricious" to become the official adjective of the > Everyday Angels. I'd also like to mention that I haven't read even ONE of > the Jewel vs. Alanis posts, and I'm happy. Just like Crunch. So there. > Thhbbt :P~~ . > > :) Rachel > I second. SenztvRtst ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:40:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: All Angels, PLEASE read this :) On the essay Rachael write in awhile ago... I am utterly amazed... I had no idea what the history of this list and Jewelstock was. My image of everyone is totally blown and just wanted to write in and say that I wish had discovered this little niche long ago. Keep it up, guys.... SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter P.-on-the-S. I am sssssooooooo jealous ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:49:04 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: note from a semi-lurker > > p.s. I'm designing a show (I'm a theatre design student) in the spring... > can anyone think of a way I could work one of Jewel's songs into Moliere's > Tartuffe? :) > ~~~~~ > Vale et me ama, > Amelia S. Vlah Putting a Jewl tune into "Tartuffe" ??!!! good luck! Where are you going to school? I'm a theatre student too.... SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter Theatre Guy P.-on-the-S. I think I just posted this to the whole list so sorry for the clutter... ------------------------------ From: "BRADLEY C. PORTER" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:53:17 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: new Jewel thread On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Simmons wrote: > I have an idea - since we don't want to compare Jewel to other musicians > anymore, let's start comparing her to people that have nothing to do with > music or poetry. To start with, how about Rene Descartes, the inventor of > geometry. Who's better, him or Jewel? Discuss! :P > Because the Llama told me to > -Loki > > Jewel vs. That-Lame-Short-Fat-Guy who does the 1-800-COLLECT commercials Any takers? (I don't know....it could be close) ;) SenztvRtst Kermit Scooter Theatre Guy ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: An article about Tori Amos These are the kinds of conflicts one should avoid. Nothing good comes of them. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu Share publicly, flame privately, " 'Cause anyone can start a conflict it's harder yet to disregard it ". ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 03:15:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: new Jewel thread Hahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahah. 'nuff said. :) Gerrit :> I have an idea - since we don't want to compare Jewel to other musicians :> anymore, let's start comparing her to people that have nothing to do with :> music or poetry. To start with, how about Rene Descartes, the inventor of :> geometry. Who's better, him or Jewel? Discuss! :P :> Because the Llama told me to :> -Loki - -- "The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. - Anatole France ------------------------------ From: cyberdude123@juno.com (matt r myhra) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 03:47:04 EDT Subject: GENERAL... I was bored... I had just read something like 210 of the letters and I said to myself... "Self, why don't you write something, you know you are bored..." Well something like that (acttualy I don't even think I said anything to myself..., maybe I did it for content, I really don't remember) well, anyway getting back to the subject, I just felt like writing... so thats what im doing. My opinion with that jewel vs. alanis thing is, that you shouldn't put alanis down... I mean she isn't my favirote artist (acttualy she bugs me, but thats me) she gets a lot of people to buy her stuff, and watch her videos... just like we like jewel! So Mog is right in most cases about the Vs. thing... Got that outta the way now, I liked the posting on that essay thing by rachel, GREAT... Not that im special or anything but I thought it had a nice touch (Kinda sucks that I found out about the list too late for JS) but it was cool, just though you might want to know rach... Well everyone I think i'll be getting my butt in bed... (Currently 1:45) and i start school in two days again... =( HEHEEHEHE THANKS ALWAYS! -MATT AKA: CYBERGOD... P.S. Anyone know when Jewel is doing the performances in california... which ones ETC. ETC. ya know what I mean. If you do please respond to me. Thanks Again! ------------------------------ From: earthsis@spindle.net (earthsis@spindle.net) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 03:44:25 -0500 Subject: YWMFM video?/See Sassy I was just wondering whatever happend to the YWMFM video tree that was going to start up...Did I miss a post or two? Also, does anyone have the chords/tab to "See Sassy"? Is it See Sassy or just Sassy..I've heard it both ways. I would sit down and figure it out myself, but I'm being something called lazy lately.. ;o Angela~*~* p.s. Does anyone on the list listen to Lisa Germano? I think I might buy her 2nd Cd, but I wanted to get any opinions. ------------------------------ From: Anthony Prescott Pego Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:11:13 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [VERY VERY VERY NJC - MAXIMIZE WINDOW - so shoot me] you know.. I'm a newbie.. and I find it only fair for me to tell you guys about myself before I continue ranting and raving about my opinions. Its how I do things. sooo.. for those interested, here's an essay I did for class today, if you're not interested in the inner-mind of a fellow EDA, delete me now. I warn you, this is very long, and probably boring. so please, delete now if you think you can't handle this. and please, remember, I'm sensative. :) Anthony Prescott Pego creative writing 09/06/96 Psychedelia I'm breathing the air around me; it's the air I've always breathed, yet it's all brand new. I'm walking the earth beneath me; it's the same ground I've always stumbled across, yet it feels unfamiliar to my feet. I've spent twenty-two months, now, only trying to get by. Everyone around me makes it day to day. I wonder how, because I don't seem to remember yesterday. They say as a toddler I crawled under a bed, lifted my head quickly, and caught a metal bar. Out poured blood, leaving behind the scar tissue upon my brow; giving me an ever-present serious look. Theytalk about as a young child, I was unruly, and always arguing or fighting to get me way. They say when my age hit double digits, I had a problem with lying to keep myself out of trouble. They insist as an early teen, I fought intensively with the family, almost forcing us to attend therapy. They say in my mid-teens, girlfriends came along more often than the Sunday paper did. They tell me all of this, but I hesitate to believe my parents' words; that just wasn't me. October 27, 1994, I received a concussion in a football game that wiped all previous memory from my brain. All past Christmas's, birthdays, girlfriends, family, all the good times and the bad times were wiped clean. It was not unlike an empty white canvas spread out in front of an artist. But in my case, the artist had been in the middle of a painting when along came a pouring rain, washing away all the colors splashed on the canvas. The only thing that remained the same was my love for computers. And my computer kept me interested in this world. From that night things have been a little off beat when compared to the average life. As a child, I was less than perfect. I lied, I fought, I played pranks; I had my share of trouble. When I awoke October 28, that was wiped clean. For me, it was like I was an animal being released into the wild after years of confinement. There was only one thing I had to give up because of my memory loss, aside from the obvious. I was no longer 100% sure of my own sanity. Every day I would question whether all this had physically happened, or if it was a form of phychosis within me. A side affect of the injury was an odd, very unpredictable, and almost psychedelic flashing of a million mixed colors, fractions of a thousand memories, clips of unrecognizable sounds,and incomplete thoughts. Many times this phychedelic headache was powerful enough to bring me to a complete halt in any activity, including breathing. With this lingering side affect, and the loss of my entire life, I could not be sure of myself, nor could I trust my own thoughts. It seemed as if I were a single soul within my own psychedelia. Life changed abruptly for me, and I knew it. I had to adapt, or I would, at the risk of sounding prophetic, lose myself within myself. I decided I had to do this alone. My parents did not realize how much memory was gone, and I decided it was best for them to leave it that way. For all they knew, my memory loss was temporary, and I was able to convince them that this was true. I didn't see any reason to include them in this pain, and so they could not help me in my adaptation. In my quest to fit in, I realized that most people are handed their perception of life and they either alter it to fit their own life-style, or they tear it apart and piece it back together to their liking. I, on the other hand, had to develop my own perception this world, and I had to do it quick. I began with my heritage. I looked first at my Methodist beliefs, then at my Native American heritage. With those two, I blended my own religious beliefs and my stand point in life. Due to the almost third-person view of human nature I was given, I began to see things a bit differently than "normal." I began to explore the world of empathic abilities; empathic being the actual ability to feel the emotions of other living being around you. This ability somehow came extremely easy to me; I guessed because of my clear and altered view of this world. The more I practiced empathy, channeling, and other spritual activities, the more in-touch I became with myself, and all of nature's energy around me. For the first time, I was happy, I loved life, I loved God, and I needed nothing more than to love those around me. In searching only for my own perception of life, I found so much more than I would ever need in my journey. Soon I found that life wasn't as easy as loving everyone around you, and simply enjoying the view. In trying to simply make friends for the first time, I learned that not everyone was as enthusiastic as I was about just being happy and open about life. I found it a strugle to show my true colors, express my beliefs and not be shunned or thought of as a "weirdo." I found it easier to spend my free time hiking, climbing mountains, expressing myself in art, or just losing myself in thought than to risk the rejection from the society I exclused myself from. And honestly, I was happier doing these things than including myself in the crowd I didn't belong to. Slowely, with the help of the internet, I found many people who were surprisingly like myself. I made many friends from the cyber-culture, and I went to many gatherings. I met people as seemingly normal as the Brady's, and as weird as Dennis Rodman. I noticed one thing, however; these people, however different they were, all loved life and each other as much as I did. For once, I believed I belonged to the human race, I did not question my sanity so much anymore, and I did not see myself as part of my own psychedelia. At least these people were here with me. In time, I learned to read into people emotions better. Because emotions are a reflection of inner thought, I learned to see the true side of people. I learned that people in general feel the same, but show how the feel in extremely different ways. This showed me that I too could be normal in this ocean of memories. I to could make it day to day. In searching for my own perception of life, I found myself without the help of any memories. I found myself within the people around me, who only wanted to love life, just like me. so sure me for posting this on the list.. but I find the personal views and thoughts of every human relevant to everything in my life.. truely, I concider EVERYTHING "jewel content".. but thats just me. thanks.. Anthony Prescott Pego Little Cub Pego Pi - Pego Imaging & Web Design - o k l a h o m a c i t y - [ O W N E R ] HTTP://WWW.TELEPATH.COM/PMG .4O5.691.2539 ------------------------------ From: Merchant20@aol.com Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:23:10 -0400 Subject: Info needed..please help! Angels, I was just wondering about Jewel's shows on Sept 27 and 28th. I read that the show on the 27th was unannounced...does anyone know if it will ever be announced? If the concert is going to be within reasonable driving distance (I live in Maryland) I would love to go. I've got tickets for the broadway version of Grease for the 28th, and I need to know if I need to rearrange things and get rid of the Grease tickets so I can see Jewel. If anyone has ANY information on these shows I'd appreciate it immensely if you could pass it on! Thanks, Tracy ------------------------------ From: the emperor of smurfs Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:57:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Is it just me... On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Fuzzy & Piglet wrote: > Or does it seem like alot of people have disappeared from the list. Yeah I > havn't posted that often, to tell the truth nothing much to say, just > wondering if everyone is still out there? > Robb Hi All! i really don't think it requires calculus to figure why alot of the usual suspects have stopped posting. i would say many of us are annoyed and disgusted by some of the ridiculous "debate" that is going on in the list. i also feel that many people still don't understand the difference between quantity and quality. during the whole "mad bomber" scare, the quantity of messages had dropped considerably. i noticed that useful and thoughtful posts were often in my mailbox. the signal to noise ratio was very favorable. :) lately, the quantity has gone up, but content quality has albeit disappeared :( over the last week or so, i have been gettin about 50 messages a day. most of them are not productive or are just sheer opinion about unrelated stuff. i have deleted most of these posts as i know that many of us should realise that we must go thru life "agreeing to disagree" with our friends. there is no need for public animosity. this list will only be what we make of it. if people choose to routinely post off-topic or fight, that will continue to drive many more Angels away. since i have been on this list, there have been many ebbs and flows. we have had our share of great discussions, as well as insidious flamewars. this list is only what you make of it. once again, i advocate only one kind of censorship: "self-censorship" please be considerate of everyone else's feelings, and most of all respect other people's time. i think there is an element of "Peter and the Wolf" involved here. if people continue to yell and post off topic, they will get ignored and and just scream even louder. the last week or so has not been part of the "better days" of EDA's history. once again, i must say "Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if ya got nothin' new to say!" peace, dave *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* Dave DiCicco peaches@dmapub.dma.org _____ __ | \____/ | | | | O H I O | | | | | | * Dayton / |_ _/ \_____| *+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+*+* ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 08:27:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: YWMFM video?/See Sassy :> I was just wondering whatever happend to the YWMFM video tree that was :> going to start up...Did I miss a post or two? :> Also, does anyone have the chords/tab to "See Sassy"? Is it See Sassy or :> just Sassy..I've heard it both ways. I would sit down and figure it out :> myself, but I'm being something called lazy lately.. ;o Angela- Everyone calls it "See Sassy", but on one of the recordings of it, she calls it "Sassy", so I have it down as such. :) Has anyone heard her call it "See Sassy"? Cuz she does have a tendency to rename songs and such. Gerrit - -- "It just goes to show what you can do if you're a total psychotic." -Woody Allen ------------------------------ From: toni@indy.net (Toni Dunn) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:37:28 -0500 Subject: You're so small Okay, I just got the lyrics to you're so small. Does anyone have this on tape? I'm really in love with this song. Thanks all-Toni I say I may be back, you know what lies are for- Sylvia Plath So now she's sitting in the bedroom and she's crying.- Jewel God made everything from nothing, but the nothingness shows through. Don't place faith in human beings, human beings aren't reliable things.- Machines of loving grace ------------------------------ From: Jay Notte Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:50:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: VERY NJC: Metallica Nice Opinion. Too bad you're going to hell for it, muhahahahah!! Just kidding. I think they are a great band in their own right, but then again I believe that pretty much every modern rock artist out there could be more productive picking their nose than writing music. But that's just my opinion, and that's where it ends. Jay On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Terry Rogers wrote: > I'm a serious supporter of the theory that Metallica is a horrible band. > I really don't see how any shred of talent can be found within their > music. > > I don't know. To each his own, I guess... > > Rachel > ------------------------------ From: Jay Notte Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Jewel Duets, and a ditty about Metallica Jewel and Springsteen!!!! It's inevitable. Jay ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #555 ***************************