From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #418 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Saturday, 27 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 418 Today's Subjects: ----------------- testing .... but yet again.... Vote.... RE: testing .... but yet again.... Re: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... NH?? RE: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... Popularity Fan Tapes- Please! EDA List Member Cover Tape/CD Jewel article in React Re: mailing list Small mention in this weeks Entertainment Weekly Re: Igor's post to Jared and the vodka headache remedy Sorry!!-Dennis Harris please read ! Moderating a news list tech question Re: cd collection To: jewel@smoe.org For the last Time Re: For the Last Time the list t-shirt and other stuff New Jewel Page Do a News List Already! Re: Do a News List Already! I'M HOME Re: a WWSYS query ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Acid_Burn Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:10:46 -0400 Subject: testing .... but yet again.... ------------------------------ From: Acid_Burn Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:14:59 -0400 Subject: Vote.... I forgot in my busy week to place my own vote down for the shows. If my opinion still counts, I think that the friday show was Awesome, but the after concert on Thursday was mega-tastic! ------------------------------ From: Acid_Burn Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:17:02 -0400 Subject: RE: testing .... but yet again.... =) - ---------- From: CONNELL@cs.lmco.com[SMTP:CONNELL@cs.lmco.com] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 7:13 AM To: chi3@ix.netcom.com Subject: RE: testing .... but yet again.... ACID FUCKING BURN????/ ------------------------------ From: Crash Boy Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:20:57 +0000 Subject: Re: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... Akira wrote: >To any angels that care.... > I have been sent a sign from the lord of all angels to change my handle. >So from this moment now... My NEW handle shall be Acid_Burn.... cool huh? >Well there's also a story for this change, if anyone is interested........ look like rich has been watching hackers a few too many times, eh? eric :) ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:21:26 -0400 Subject: NH?? Just wondering out loud... if anyone is going to the NH show? ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:25:09 -0400 Subject: RE: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... just a few too many times.... =) - ---------- From: Crash Boy[SMTP:RoninAM@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 1996 11:20 AM To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: Re: CHANGING AKIRA TO ACID BURN... Akira wrote: >To any angels that care.... > I have been sent a sign from the lord of all angels to change my handle. >So from this moment now... My NEW handle shall be Acid_Burn.... cool huh? >Well there's also a story for this change, if anyone is interested........ look like rich has been watching hackers a few too many times, eh? eric :) ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 11:38:20 -0400 Subject: Popularity Sorry to post this but I wrote it before reading all of my mail. I see that the discussion is over but I feel like I wasted my time if I erase this. I am on neither side of the argument. There are pros and cons to both side. I say that it is Jewel's life so let her do what she wants and support her. The music will always be there. I think she is smart enough to know what she wants. I wouldn't mind it if everyone in the world was a Jewel fan. I always had this dream that someday something would come along that would unite all mankind. It doesn't seem to be religion. In fact religion, although its intentions are good, only seems to segregate us further. Perhaps if everyone in the world fell in love with Jewel's music, wars would stop, noone would go hungry, and everyone would live happy, caring, kind lives with each other like about 200 of us did in Woodstock one week ago. I know her music has changed my outlook on life and my life in general in both subtle and dramatic ways. East or West coast? I hope there will be another JewelStock but if there isn't I won't be dissapointed. I am happy with what I got and I would only want another one to be held if Jewel wanted to do it for her. I don't want her to feel an obligation to us because we support her. I hope she really enjoyed it and would do another because she liked having the attentive and respectful crowd as opposed to what she usually gets. If I was actually able to speak when I got to meet her I would have thanked her. As far as where one would be if there was another, I really don't care. If my job allows I would swim to Japan to be there. I am an East coast native but I love the West Coast and plan on moving there or in the vicinity when I graduate college in the spring. Yes, it is a long swim but well worth it. Well that is all I have to say about that. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: Rafa the archangel <75271.2740@CompuServe.COM> Date: 27 Jul 96 12:44:22 EDT Subject: Fan Tapes- Please! Hello Angels: Please if the tapes are gonna be made let me do my version of Carnivore. I have never heard the song , but yesterday someone sent the chord arrangements and the lyrics and I love it. I also made another version of Carnivore called Hervibore , which is just funny , I'd think if Jewel received the songs performed by me , she'd crack up. But if another person already wants to perform this song with guitar , I'll budge. If I can't do that song could someone send me the tabs for: 1. Everything Breaks 2.Private God's Gift 3.Summerhome In your Arms 4. I'm sensitive ( I know it's stupid , but I can't quite hit completely) 5. Others that you think in Electric guitar would sound cooler , except Race Car Driver. until then your friend and automatic cheap angel: Rafa p.s: Out of these 5 songs I'd prefer to do Carnivore, if it's not fisable, I'd like to try Everything Breaks ( someone please send tabs) ------------------------------ From: gregory ianitto Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:14:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: EDA List Member Cover Tape/CD how about this idea: i know a number of us are musicians, and have played together at least once last week (hehehe), what about getting together those that can, and doing a group gig/recording. is this too much to think about organizing? i know i wouldnt mind getting together with some of you'all and jammin again, maybe with some goal or initiative. question two: would there be objection to a band recording of a jewel song, as long as one of the members is an angel.....eric you reading this? _______________________________uDc_ Gregory J Yanito Research Assistant Urban Design Center of Northeast Ohio gyanito@saed.kent.edu ------------------------------ From: NeOblCar@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 13:41:12 -0400 Subject: Jewel article in React A few you might have caught that Jewel was on the cover and featured in a local sunday newspaper insert. The thing is called React and it is for young teens, however, it does have a descent article about Jewel (nothing we didn't already know) and two great pictures. Anyways, I ended up with two copies of it (everyone kept trying to give it to me knowing what a Jewel freak I am). So if anyone wants it I'll mail it out to you. Just drop me a note. ROB ------------------------------ From: pingman@asu.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 10:40:36 -0700 (MST) Subject: Re: mailing list I DISAGREE. I LIKE READING EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS. THIS LIST, LIKE JEWEL, IS THE BEST!!! On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Christopher T Stotesbury wrote: > we need a new mailing list. something different. I had to unsubscribe > from the regular mail form and only use the digest because the amount of > mail was too much. > > Jewel-News@smoe.org > > Jewel-Social@smoe.org > > who here agrees???????????? > ________________ > Email CStotes_WarpCon@juno.com > ------------------------------ From: JefffSmith@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:14:22 -0400 Subject: Small mention in this weeks Entertainment Weekly In the music section of this week's Entertainment Weekly, they do a review of a bunch of movie soundtracks. Jewel gets a small mention in the review for Phenomenon. I won't type in the whole review (it's not a good one anyway), but here's the important part. "The set's only feisty newcomer, caffeinated folkie Jewel, resorts to covering a song by adult alternative underdog John Hiatt." Jeff "I recognize myself in every stranger's eyes" ------------------------------ From: Ddhaoc@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:28:37 -0400 Subject: Re: Igor's post to Jared and the vodka headache remedy Alright, I'm only posting public on this one for two reasons: 1) Igor (and Jared) posted and brought me into it, and more importantly, 2) I've had my share of bullshit with drinking and other obsessions. I usually try to keep my posts humorous, and avoid dispensing "sagely" advice. I'd rather make ya'll smile than roll your eyes and fidget in your seats. Truth is, I've survived what amounts to several lifetimes of grief (I won't bore you with details), and I care enough about you guys (whether I've met you or not) to RISK alienating you. I strongly suspect the same of Igor. It's a wise man (or woman) who'll take advice from folks who've already traveled the road they're about to take. Now I'm one of the lucky ones, because I learned my lessons largely at the expense of others. My family has been ravaged by alcoholism, with much of the associated dysfunctional behaviors. Alcohol and drugs killed one of my sisters before she reached the age of 35. That's the biggest bitch of them all -- lost potential. We erect barriers that make us inaccessible to others, therefore cheating ourselves and those around us with whom we could have shared so much. Fortunately, what's left of my family has gotten their act together and mostly sworn off the habit. And yes, that was me having a beer or three at the PineCrest Lodge! I drink socially with others when I am in an upbeat mood (never depressed or angry), and I avoid hard liquor. I've never been a "12 step" type drinker, thank God. A look around me scared me enough to avoid that at all costs. Jared, no sermon from me buddy, please just DEAL with your problems and don't try to drown them. Work with your father. Believe it or not, he's just as scared and confused as you and I are. His going "apeshit" is his emotional response to things beyond his control (ie, you). Masking ANY problem just makes it worse, and you give up any control you might have had in the process! Control can be VERY important in life, as that shadow at your shoulder isn't always an angel, but sometimes a predator. Anyway Jared, I'll see you at the New Hampshire show. Bring your dingbat friends and camp on the steps. I wanna cut in line with you ten minutes before the doors open! Hey, change your handle to "SuPeRrEfOrMeD aNgEl" while you're at it! * smile * - -- Dennis Harris p.s. Igor, remind me not to push any of YOUR buttons! We're going to start calling you the Guardian Angel if you keep this up! * smile * ------------------------------ From: Sweetiedog@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:39:36 -0400 Subject: Sorry!!-Dennis Harris please read ! ***Lara wrote: >...but maybe if this list gets locked, and another list starts for new people- or would this be too segregated & only end up to divide Jewel fans? *** Dennis Harris wrote: >...The spirit of EDA's should be INCLUSIVE, not EXCLUSIVE! I'm sorry for the way that sounded, I didn't mean to imply that one list would be better, or only have certain people in it- I'm new & I'm soo glad of the "family atmosphere" of this list- I was just suggsting 2 lists so the volume of mail wouldn't take 8 hrs to read- but now that I think abput it, I wouldn't mind reading all that mail, 'cause it's what people feel about Jewel & life (notice which came 1st!!) sorry for the lisconception! -Lara p.s. I'm sending this to the whole list, so you all don't thing I'm an evil person! :) ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:01:03 -0500 Subject: Moderating a news list Hi, I'm about to volunteer to moderate a news only list that will give only hard facts like concert dates and TV appearances to fans who don't want any discussion. If you'd like to convince me otherwise, please reply privately. There will be no need to subscribe to both since it will be a strict subset of our lovely list, with the exception of administrative mail. Thanks for your opinion, James ________________________________________________________________________ Computer Science/Engineering Eng. Network Services Web Guy http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam Auburn University Auburn, Alabama ------------------------------ From: Selena Martin Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:24:26 -0700 Subject: tech question I'm trying to clear my mailbox and everytime I try to read a post from "Fuzzy the love bea.." with the subject being "Toni's age", my computer does weird things. Anybody else have this same problem? Selena ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:16:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: cd collection Dave, Yeah.. I know how that is. :> I only have 8, but still! Then again, I have 31 tapes and counting.. ;) I've NEVER EVER been a real fan of ANY artist. It ussed to be that my favorite band depended on my mood. :) Now Jewel is my all time favorite singer / song writer and Garbage is my fav non-sensitive-jump-around group. =) (Tho Garbage doesn't get any of my attention like Jewel, eheh) Gerrit :> Hi Angels, :> :> yesterday, a friend was over and she was looking at my jewel cds and she :> counted them and was amazed. :> :> she said: "Dave, do you realise that Jewel only has one album out, but :> you have 19 different Jewel cds!!!!" :> :> i was a little surprised myself :) :> :> i have the required Pieces of You, STL, PBFGAB, and a bunch of different :> promos including spew discs....but the sad thing is that i know i am :> still missing a few of the spew discs :> :> am i the only nut with this many different cds? i have at least 4 :> different cds with WWSYS....and i would think nothing of paying $4 :> to buy a spew cd with WWSYS...just because i want to be a completionist :> :> i think i must be loopy :) :> :> i would love to hear how many different cds other obsessive people have :> :> peace, :> :> dave :> diciccda@saber.udayton.edu :> - -- "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy ------------------------------ From: Leave the shadows dancing Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 16:19:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: To: jewel@smoe.org Just wondering out loud... if anyone else is wathcing Akira post al over - -- "Anything that happens enough times to irritate you will happen at least once more." - Tom Parkins ------------------------------ From: MikeAlow@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:21:48 -0400 Subject: For the last Time HI, I remember someone mentioning a possible jewel alblum called For the Last Time before the WWSYS single was released. Has anyone seen or bought the For the Last Time? Whats on it? Mike ------------------------------ From: diciccda@saber.udayton.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:33:02 -0400 Subject: Re: For the Last Time when the WWSYS single was about to be released, cd universe [www.cduniverse.com] had "For the Last Time" listed. But this was a mistake as it is really from Jewell with the infamous second L :) also, "For the Last Time" was released on Showtime Records....NOT Atlantic so it obviously couldn't be from our Jewel i wrote to Larry, the manager of cduniverse and complained, and he eventually eliminated it from the Jewel inventory i am not plugging cduniverse, but they had a name the newsletter contest, and i won a gift certificate from them for providing the winning suggestion for the name of their newsletter "the big bang" so hopefully, no other on line cd stores will confuse jewel and jewell peace, dave diciccda@saber.udayton.edu ------------------------------ From: Sabra Richardson Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:41:46 -0600 (MDT) Subject: the list t-shirt and other stuff Hey everyone... I cannot for the life of me remember who volunteered to design a list t-shirt, but I also have some possible designs. Perhaps they will defy the affordibility of silk-screened t-shirts, but if I ever scan them in and want other people's opinions, how would I do this? Is there still a web page with design candidates? Someone let me know! Great job on your web page, Greg Dunn! Very nice. Thanks for giving IDs with the pictures. Also, let's all remain calm. We're building up to another list-war with all the tension flying around. Another Brett incident could throw us all off balance. Everyone remember to count to ten before posting! James, go ahead and do the news list! I support the idea wholly. There are people out there who have lives and don't have the time to read the list as it is now... :) Instead of flaming people who ask everyone to post shorter messages, we just direct her/him to the news list. It's a good idea. sabra (Kim (SilverKat), is your zine done yet? I'm still interested.) ------------------------------ From: journey@alpha1.phoenix.net (Mike) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 96 01:17:51 PDT Subject: New Jewel Page Hi, I have a Jewel page basically almost ready to go except for one thing. I don't have a name for it. Any of you Everyday Angels have any suggestions? :) If you do please tell me, I would be ever so grateful. Thanks. When I do get the name I will post the url.. Thanks again for any help anyone can provide,. - --Mike, (Journey) ------------------------------ From: Ddhaoc@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:54:26 -0400 Subject: Do a News List Already! ***Cstotes wrote: >we need a new mailing list. something different. I had to unsubscribe from the regular mail form and only use the digest because the amount of mail was too much. Jewel-News@smoe.org Jewel-Social@smoe.org who here agrees?< ***List admin Jeff W. wrote: >I've said this before.... If there is someone who is willing to moderate a News only list, I will be glad to set it up.< ***Mike Connell wrote: >I disagree totally....the list will die down again soon, it was kinda dry/slow before the 1st JewelStock announcement...let's WAIT and see before anyone makes a "Rush to Judgement" decision and start one....wait 'til the fall...judge it then< While Mike is probably right on this one, I don't look forward to the bickering that will most certainly occur until then. So, in an effort to resolve this thread NOW, someone please contact Jeff, volunteer to moderate the new list, and establish a new one called: news.jewel@smoe.org This way, it can succeed (or die off) on its own merit. And valuable space in the jewel@smoe.org list group won't be taken with these "does anyone want a news only list?" posts (obviously some people do, but enough to put forth the effort to run one?). Also, there's NO NEED for a "Jewel-Social" addition, as that is an integral part of this list already (as is news). So if you want a news only list, PLEASE VOLUNTEER, set it up, build it, and see if "they will come". I'll subscribe and lurk. - -- Dennis Harris ------------------------------ From: jeffw (Jeff Wasilko) Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 17:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Do a News List Already! Ddhaoc@aol.com writes: > This way, it can succeed (or die off) on its own merit. And valuable space in > the jewel@smoe.org list group won't be taken with these "does anyone want a > news only list?" posts (obviously some people do, but enough to put forth the > effort to run one?). Also, there's NO NEED for a "Jewel-Social" addition, as > that is an integral part of this list already (as is news). So if you want a > news only list, PLEASE VOLUNTEER, set it up, build it, and see if "they will > come". I'll subscribe and lurk. Volunteers have stepped forward, and plans are being made for a news-only list. I'm sure the group would appreciate it if the topic was dropped for now. If you're interested in working as part of the moderation team, please contact me directly. Jeff ------------------------------ From: JEWELFAN22@aol.com Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 18:03:02 -0400 Subject: I'M HOME Hi everyone !! I am finally home from camp and have around 1000 messages to check. Camp basically sucked. I thought about and talked about Jewel and JewelStock the whole time. I agree with Tom from NY when he described the horrible feeling of withdrawal. It has been REALLY bad. It was really funny though....someone at camp thought my name was Jewel!!!!!!!!! I started cracking up!!! There were a lot of frisbee games going on. This one kid tried to throw me a frisbee. I flinched and told him that frisbees were evil and dangerous. Well I better keep reading!!!! More later....including some wicked poems I wrote!!! -Liz ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 15:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: a WWSYS query > my best guess is that she says: > > "cold brick walls" And I thought it was "Cold grey walls" You know how she loves to use colors. Tom ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #418 ***************************