From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #394 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 22 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 394 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Back from Jewelstock Re: tapes (was Re: A Letter from Lenedra) Jewelstock,the aftermath Re: jewel-digest V1 #392 Oops! Re: Non Jewel: Re: the load has come in! I was there too A sort of JewelStock idea Radio Bashing Re: jewel-digest V1 #392 Who's driving to the NH show? perhaps the meanest thing on the list the boyfriend thing Re: My Family Re: tapes (was Re: A Letter from Lenedra) Re: "react" article: July 22-28, 1996 Re: Sabra/Annual Jewelstock? Re: almost but not quite a JS p Re: Sabra/Annual Jewelstock? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Stephen Ivy Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 18:40:51 -0500 Subject: Back from Jewelstock I drove into Hattiesburg, MS at 2:31 this afternoon without an air conditioning. For those of you who saw me at Jewelstock, you know I'm not that big. Well, I sweated off 65 pounds and now weigh 80 lbs. The AC left me right before i got to Tuscaloosa. I guess it could have been worse. In totally unrelated news, NBC is airing a special Unsolved Mysteries on the true identities of the Harris Brothers. Ha Ha, I figured you two out Dean is the one with the red hair! Or is it Dennis? No, Dean had the buttons. No that's not right! Aaaarggggggh! Foiled again! ************************************** Stephen Ivy (sdivy@whale.st.usm.edu) **** ************************************** If a patron buys from an artist who needs money (needs money to buy tools, time, food), the patron then makes himself equal to the artist; he is building art into the world; he creates. Ezra Pound (1885-1972), U.S. poet, critic. ------------------------------ From: altman@brooktree.com (Erik Altman) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 16:43:13 PDT Subject: Re: tapes (was Re: A Letter from Lenedra) I agree. Let's get a tape out for the "untouchables" ;) who weren't present for Jewel's Sermon on Mount Woodstock. I would much rather hear ANY part of the concert NOW than wait until Feb. hey Eric, thanks for posting that article from the React News Mag. Did you actually type it all in?!! That's impressive! I thought that part about Jewel living with an Native Amer. family was interesting...I hadn't heard that before. Am I the only one or is it a bit of creative journalism? - -Erik > From: teffta@erie.ge.com > Subject: tapes (was Re: A Letter from Lenedra) > > Lenedra wrote: > > > video. So I can only think of two choices for you. (I am > > standing by with my fire-extinguisher for the understandable > > flames--hope Hiranya doesn't get fried.) We could edit out > > the band songs (5 or 6 numbers) and get a tape of the rest of > > it to you immediately and then do a part two with the rest of > > it to you a day or two prior to release. OR we can wait and > > get the whole thing to you at record release time (which looks > > like end of Feb or so). What do you think? SORRY! Cringe. > > Speaking as an unfortunate who could have been at jewelstock if it were > just one week later (gotta get in that sympathy plug there), I would > prefer to get the non-band stuff now, and the band stuff when it is > available, either as a separate tape or a re-tape. > > Similarly, if this is an option for the video (as someone mentioned), > I would be happy to get a non-hifi video tape now, and > then when it is possible to distribute a hi-fi version, tape over it. > > I don't think any of us particularly want to wait until February > without ANY recording of this. And for those of us who weren't there, > something is better than nothing (the photos and descriptions just make > us jealous!). > ------------------------------ From: Corgan@sciboard.spd.louisville.edu Date: 22 Jul 1996 20:04:40 EST Subject: Jewelstock,the aftermath To say I had a good time at Jewelstock would be an understatement. I don't know if lack of sleep had anything to do with the "mystical" experience at Woodstock, but the town was a perfect place for this event. But seriously, everyone was very "cool"; just like I thought everyone would be. I would have socialized more, but a "bad burrito" at Taco Juan's had me feeling "spaced out". hmmmm, i wonder if they put any "secret" ingredients in their food at Woodstock? argh, that burrito! any other bean burrito wouldn't have messed me up. jeremy ------------------------------ From: Gregory Donavon Ooley Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:25:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #392 Ed Hodgin: > > The reason I couldn't go to JS was money, and yet I just deposited that > big paycheck. Well, when you have over $6000 in credit card debt, you > realize you have to be responsible. > That excuse isn't gonna fly with me! Me and my girlfriend made a 13-hour drive from Indianapolis, left Wednesday afternoon and returned late (really late) on Friday night- and only spent $150 between the two of us! Of course, we arrived in Woodstock on Thursday at 4:30 a.m. and had to sleep in the car behind the drug store because we had planned on being able to get a room for $22, like here in Indy. But, alas! In NY a single goes for $43.95... Should've called ahead, I know. I kept trying to convince my girlfriend that sleeping in a car isn't THAT bad... "Hey, honey, Jewel did it! Don't you want to be like Jewel?" =) But she wasn't going for that. Anyways, in spite of being tightwads, we had a wonderful experience, and if I had been living in Japan and had somehow known just how special JS was going to be, I would have definitely flown over for it. Yes, I'm being completely serious. ************************************************** To elaborate on someone else's idea... I, for one, cannot see Jewelstock happening again. (Call me a cynic.) But I can see the next best thing happening. Here's what we do: When Jewel starts touring again and we finally get our hands on a good, definite itinerary we all take a look at it, then vote on what would be the best show/location/time of year... and then everyone makes a pilgrimage to that show. If 200 EDA's show up at a regular show, we'd still make a resounding presence, what with our blue ribbons, Jewelstock T-shirts, and exceptional good looks=) Jewel would surely know we were going to be there (if she weren't alerted simply by the sight of an airborne Fuzzy the Love Bear above the crowd), which I'm sure would be a comfort for her. And this time, we could start planning a couple months in advance so that more Everyday Angels would be able to attend. I think that would be great. What does everyone think? I just feel like any talk about a future JewelStock, especially so soon after this one, puts pressure on Jewel and Lenedra. We shouldn't make them feel obligated to accomodate us. If Lenedra says "sure, we'll try another in the future" and then it doesn't work out for whatever reasons, a lot of people are going to be upset- and I get the feeling that the last thing Lenedra and Jewel want is for us to feel like they let us down. OK. I'm done=) Take care, everyone. Gregory Ooley P.S. How many Gregs are on this list anyways? P.P.S. I can't believe that so many angels dislike Neil Young. He's not my favorite, but I'm still excited to see him. I mean, jeez... Jewel could be touring with Hootie or something. Can you imagine? ------------------------------ From: Gregory Donavon Ooley Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:29:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Oops! I've just read the React story on Jewel that mentions that Lenedra and her husband were singer-songwriters. So, I guess Lenedra *has* made a living in the past using her lovely voice. I didn't know that when I posted about "Little Bird", etc. yesterday. Sorry. B'bye. Gregory Ooley ------------------------------ From: plus@seark.net (plus) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:43:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Non Jewel: Re: the load has come in! >On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Dan Stark wrote: >> It sounds like your browser (Netscape?) is loading the page out of its >> cache. Try clicking on Reload when that happens. > >Just to add to Dan's good advice, if this doesn't work, try clearing your >cache. On Netscape 2 and 3 it should be under Options|Network Preferences| >Cache ... There should be two buttons there, [Clear Memory Cache Now] >and [Clear Disk Cache Now], try clicking on both. thanks guys! i'll try these new helping hints after i read all my mail for today. looks like there's an average of 100 posts a day. say, has any other ppl put up pictures yet? plus ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:49:18 -0400 Subject: I was there too Wow, there are just too many messages. I really don't feal like writing so this may seem a little incoherent. As another Jewelstock attendee I can also verify that the show was great. So many things that I would like to say but I know most people don't really want to hear them. Everyone already summed it up so well already. Am I the only one that feels weird when posting now? I miss all of my new friends already. I know I don't make much of a first impression. That is why I would like to thank Akira for remembering my name. Usually people forget me pretty easily. I assure you that I am a lot more fun then I appeared to be. I needed about 1 or 2 more days to really open up to you guys. Shyness is a difficult habit to kick. The tears in my eyes as I drove away shall be my own private witness to how I loved you all. If there was ever anything that was or resembled a Utopia before in the history of the world and mankind, this gathering of people left it in the dust (does that make sense). The show. The shortest 2 3/4 hours ever. You heard it all so no need to reiterate. My own personal experience: fought tears off most of the time. What is it about her. Is it the performance, the voice, the idea. I would call it a religious experience if I was a religious person. I know I will never be the same again. Everything I ever do will be compared to this and I fear that it will all pale in comparison. So why live on? For the hope that life can be perfect again. Life is great. I love the world. Just waiting for this Post Jewelstock Depression to end. Got to meet Jewel. She signed my CD and I got my picture taken. Regrets. I would really have liked to meet more people. Shyness sometimes becomes a wall that keeps me from the enjoyment. Sorry I didn't see you James Judd. Sorry I didn't say goodbye Mike and Greg from Ohio. I didn't realize that I would never see you again when I left the park. I thought you might have thought that I was being ignorant. I kind of regret my meeting with Jewel. I wish I could have done it all again. Peter pushing me from behind. Sorry to snap but I was quite sure that I might fall over if you kept pushing. My knees were understandably week at the time. I couldn't even look at her I was so nervous. I had tunnel vision and all I could look at was my CD. I can think of a thousand cool things that I could have said now. Hopefully next time. I made a fool of myself to Lenedra. I was talking to her after meeting Jewel and I said something about that song that was rejected for the Romeo and Juliet Soundtrack. She said the singer rejected it because she didn't understand it. I said something like,"Yea, just like my parents and my sister. Some people just don't understand." She looked at me funny and I wish I could just make myself disappear. It was a justifiable mistake on my part. I was still alittle woozy from my close encounter with Jewel. My knees were still shaking and my mind was on some other planet. What I meant was people like my family just don't see what we see in Jewel's music. My sister had commented to me a few days before about she does not know what I see in Jewel and that has been on my mind ever since. Misunderstanding seems to be a common theme in my life. It is still the best three days of my life. I can't wait to do this all again. Side not about my current experiences. I told a friend at work today all about the weekend and how great it was. I like to impress people by telling them she played almost three hours and played only two songs from her one and only album. He seemed a little bit interrested. We heard WWSYS on the radio and he kind of liked it. Thought she had a great voice. Anyway, for the rest of the day he seemed to think that I had a crush on Jewel. Imagine that, one of us with a crush on Jewel, that is absurd. He kept referring to her as my future wife. I actually kind of liked it because he said it so much I almost started to believe it. I really don't have an obcessive crush on Jewel. At least I don't think I do. He has never seen her before and wants me to bring some pictures to work. Got to find the right one. No full body pictures or sexy shots because he has got a crude mind. Any out of the way comments might receive violent responses. Well that is it. I am still basking in the glory of the memories that I have stollen from JewelStock. Thanks Akira, Mike, Dan .... (did Crunch really help out?). Thank you Jewel for music and giving us a reason to come together. Thank whatever for everthing. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:49:36 -0400 Subject: A sort of JewelStock idea Something occurred to me while I was reading the too many posts on here. I know that a lot of us are in college. I was figuring that with a CD release in Feb. Jewel should be touring in the spring, which is also the same time that all of us college people enjoy a week or two off, better known as SPRING BREAK. Wouldn't it be great if we could follow Jewel around for that week wherever that might be. I know that this is very premature but I wanted to post it before I forgot it. If it sounds like a good idea keep it in mind when that time starts to roll around. I simply don't trust my swiss cheese memory. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:50:15 -0400 Subject: Radio Bashing There is this radio station in State College that keeps talking about the Alska fair thing and putting Jewel down. They are basically calling her a bitch and it really bothers me. I want to call the station but I don't know the whole story. I was also going to mention JewelStock but I am not sure if that is a good idea. I feel it is up to us to protect Jewels name. Let me know if I am being stupid here. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: voodoochile Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:54:31 -0500 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #392 Well, personally, i would rather see Hootie...no, i'm normal, but there seems to be a younger crowd at Hootie...trying to recapture some sense of my lost youth (after JS)...and maybe if she did tour with Hootie, she would have more exposure to the younger sect than she does now...oh nevermind, I just got the image of me swinging a bat at 10,000 young punks with nowhere to run...;) matthew http://www.goecities.com/BourbonStreet/2141 "Time sure flies when you're young and jerkin' off" Jim Carroll-_The Basketball Diaries_ Above, something that I remembered when Jewel dedicated Amen to the guy who was trying to get off heroin... Gregory Ooley wrote: > P.P.S. I can't believe that so many angels dislike Neil Young. He's not > my favorite, but I'm still excited to see him. I mean, jeez... Jewel > could be touring with Hootie or something. Can you imagine? ------------------------------ From: Eric Montas Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 00:55:50 +0000 Subject: Who's driving to the NH show? hi guys! i just bought 2 tickets for the new hampshire show, and i'm totally pysched! unfortunately, i'm sure most of you know of recent transportation troubles, so i was wondering if anyone's coming through new jersey and new york? if so, would you be able to give me and jack a ride? i live in union, nj, and jack's in suffern, ny. if no one's able to, then i'll take my dad's van, which i've been driving lately. it's a big '77 chevy, and if anyone needs a ride, i'm sure this thing'll be able to accomodate everyone. and we'll definitely take turns driving when the driver gets tired. (hint, hint) of course, if someone could give the two of us rides, it would be very cool. besides, if you were at jewelstock, you probably already met us. :) eric :) ------------------------------ From: schoon@thor.pla-net.net Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:00:33 -0500 Subject: perhaps the meanest thing on the list > On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 12:52:58 -0700 (MST) you said: > >how many others feel like me(those non-attendees) that missing jewelstock > >was like....................um..............ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... > >like missing quite possibly one of the greatest events of a lifetime. > >****************sigh**************all for now> > > Take it from a both show Jewelstocker. YOU DID! > > > Dean Harris Come on Dean... that has to be the meanest thing in the world to do to someone who missed out. Wait, I'm talking to Dean. Maybe you should get some advice on how to be nice from Dennis... He's a lot cooler. (more sensitive) mIKEY - --------------------------------------------------- "There is just no time to parade around sulking... I would rather laugh than cry The rich, the poor, the struggling... We share this place together, And we pitch-in to help it die" - Greg Graffin - --------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Hunter P. Eggink" <102001.217@CompuServe.COM> Date: 22 Jul 96 21:00:33 EDT Subject: the boyfriend thing >- Carter Navarro, Actually Engaged to Jewel Kilcher (Get Away From My Woman, >Hunter P. Eggink!) ok ok, you can have her when she's west of the Mississippi. but from there east, she's all mine. Rafa gets her while she's in Puerto Rico. so is this settled? You might think that we may run into legal problems, but i t should be ok if we all marry her in Utah, which will be considered neutral ground. Hunter ------------------------------ From: "Hunter P. Eggink" <102001.217@CompuServe.COM> Date: 22 Jul 96 21:37:20 EDT Subject: Re: My Family good job Robb. boy , did that throw my 12 steps in reverse! Hunter ------------------------------ From: Eric Montas Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:47:10 +0000 Subject: Re: tapes (was Re: A Letter from Lenedra) Erik Altman wrote: >hey Eric, thanks for posting that article from the React News Mag. Did you >actually type it all in?!! That's impressive! yeah, i typed it in. impressive? hardly. did you see all the typos i made? forgot to check it over before i sent it. oh well. eric :) ------------------------------ From: plus@seark.net (plus) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:47:11 -0500 Subject: Re: "react" article: July 22-28, 1996 > under the picture there's a caption reading: to write: Jewel, P.O. >Box 33494, San Diego, CA 92163-3494 > and "react" is doing a contest giving away the jewel/duncan sheik >promos that were given out during may's tour. just send a postcard by Aug. >5, 1996, with your name, age, address and phone number to: react/Jewel >giveaway, 711 Third Avenue, New York, NY 10017 > i already have one, so i'm not gonna enter, but thought others who >weren't able to acquire one would be interested. i have a few questions: is that first address to jewel? if you send a postcard does that mean you automatically get one? what do you mean you already have one? do you mean from the concert itself? do you know if i can enter this contest eventhough i don't live in that state? i know this is a lot of questions but please answer them the best you can. sorry about all of these, hehehe :) thanks, plus ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 22:04:43 EST Subject: Re: Sabra/Annual Jewelstock? On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 19:05:55 -0400 you said: >Sabra posted: >>Otherwise, I guess I haven't really made a dent on this list because I don't >>post long, rambling (interesting nonetheless) narratives but I still >>would have liked to meet the increasingly popular Harris Brothers, the >>famed beauty Selena or the ever-charming Rachel, et al. > >Fear not, yours is a familiar voice to most of us here, especially people >who've been here more than a few months. Your presence was missed at JS. > >Robb said: >>Just to clarify things, I don't know if Mike has done this yet, but I was >>talking with Mike before the friday show and he said he just said 1st annual >>Jewelstock as a joke, he didn't know that so many would take it seriously, I > >Mike, I wouldn't worry about it too much, I don't think that many people >took it seriously, most people were probably just going along with your >joke. I think most of us can recognize humour when we hear it (e-mail >without appropriate smilies is another story, but anyway). > >But really, there is no reason why we *can't* make it an annual event. I'm >sure for a lot of us Jewel's show was just an excuse to congregate with a >lot of other Everyday Angels. Certainly I would not have travelled that >huge distance to attend a regular show that I happened to have a free ticket >to. The thing that enticed me to travel for 16+ hours was the prospect of >meeting people like the Harris Brothers, the all-star organizing crew, the >Sinjins, Piglets & Fuzzies, the James Brothers (too bad only Mr. Judd showed >up... where were you, Mr. McGarry, Mr. Reach???), the Bershaws, the Dunns, >the Crunches, the Call Girls :-), the Accident Boys, Roman Goddesses, >SilverKats, and all the rest of all you great Everyday Angels. *That's* >what made the difference. I mean, it was really cool to have witnessed such >amazing concerts, but what's stopping us from having our own Everyday Angels >congregations without Jewel? It happens on other lists all the time! > >Next time, we can even have screenings of rare Jewel videotapes, playings of >rare Jewel shows, and so on. Whatever. To borrow a phrase from my >compatriot Anne (of Green Gables), there are a lot of "kindred spirits" >among us Everyday Angels, and I think we have enough reasons to congregate >even without Jewel present! > >Steve > Very well said. Even though this was my first Jewel concert (actually my first two Jewel concerts) one of the things that made it as special as it was was the incredible mesh between the members of the list. For the simple fact that we all share the wonderment and admiration for Jewel, we already felt as kindred before even meeting. After getting over my initial natural shyness, I talked with many people. All from different walks of life, different religions possibly, different political beliefs I would imagine, different races (though there really is just a human race, but that's just me), yet we all had a common bond that melded us into one three day community. The people of this list made the event special. Jewel just gave us a reason (oh, and two great concerts). Well, I'm getting a bit too weird and mushy. I'll stop now, even though I mean it. Dean "we really can get along" Harris ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 22 Jul 96 22:15:15 EST Subject: Re: almost but not quite a JS p On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 15:22:50 -0400 (EDT) Teffta said: >> >> >> >> Top Ten Things I Did This Weekend While Everyone Else Was Having A Great Time >> At Jewelstock > >Hm. I only did one thing: > >1) thought I had come down with appendicitis > >Actually I felt more worry than pain, but the pain was in the right >spot. And the doctor said that if it was appendicitis I would hardly be >able to move because of all the pain. I'm just glad I was stuck at home >after all, and not in Bearsville when this hit. Sometimes bad luck >turns into good (and sometimes it just doesn't matter anyway). > Not that my reply here is Jewel related, but it may help someone someday. I think your doctor was wrong. Yeah, appendicitis is painful and in very specific spots (moves as it progresses), but you wouldn't necessarily be unable to move due to it. When mine went bad I, being stuborn and stupid, considered it a stomach virus. I didn't go to the emergency room until about 6 days after it ruptured. I even went to the first day of classes of a new semester the same day I went to the ER. So all you Everyday Angels out there, take those stomach pains serious. According to my doctor another day or less of my being stuborn and stupid and there would have been only one Harris Brother at Jewelstock. Dean Harris, alive and kicking ------------------------------ From: Fuzzy the Love Bear & Robb Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 22:20:04 +0600 Subject: Re: Sabra/Annual Jewelstock? >Very well said. Even though this was my first Jewel concert (actually my >first two Jewel concerts) one of the things that made it as special as it >was was the incredible mesh between the members of the list. For the simple >fact that we all share the wonderment and admiration for Jewel, we already >felt as kindred before even meeting. After getting over my initial natural >shyness, I talked with many people. All from different walks of life, >different religions possibly, different political beliefs I would imagine, >different races (though there really is just a human race, but that's just >me), yet we all had a common bond that melded us into one three day >community. The people of this list made the event special. Jewel just >gave us a reason (oh, and two great concerts). Me and my roomate often talk about this list and he said something the other day that really made it all clear. He was talking about how everyone now a days says that the internet is just making us more and more disconecceted as a society, but that what we just did proves that wrong. He wanted to write an article for one of the internet magazines he works on, don't worry he is not going to, to talk about our event how the ML really brought us together as a community, one that was already there but really shown at Jewelstock. I'm probably butchering his statement, it sounded allot more philisophical the way he said it. Robb "I have an impulse control problem and I love it!" and Fuzzy "She kissed me!!!!She really kissed me!!!!!" w/ 12" 'Zilla and Tricky the invisible calico cat ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #394 ***************************