From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #317 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 1 July 1996 Volume 01 : Number 317 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: A warning to everyone who has DAT Jewel-lucinations Re: Online JewelStock Security Re: jewel NEWS list Its a boy Re: Jewel on 'Singled Out' -AND- kitties Re[2]: Jewel on 'Singled Out' -AND- kitties Re: Anyone have Jewel on DAT? Central Virginia Angels Re: I'm back on! Re: Jewel's Next Album Re: UFO??? Re: Question? Re: Question? Jewel's stories JEWELSTOCK: T-shirt announcement Re: Del Mar: one more thing. Re: I saw a mirageee! (Bugs Bunny) [none] Taping Jewelstock & other info ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Rubin" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:00:00 -5:00 Subject: Re: A warning to everyone who has DAT Again look before you leap. 1) I respect copyright 2) I offered this for list people who do NOT HAVE DAT (the majority) 3)I REITTERATE WHAT I STATED IN EARLIER POSTS-I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR FROM ANYONE WHO DOES NOT HOLD THE COPYRIGHT TO WORK THEY HAVE ON DAT. IF YOU POST A MESSAGE WHICH PUBLICLY ACCUSES ME OF BOOTLEGGING, AND SLANDER ME IN PUBLIC (LIBEL), expect contact from legal counsel. Check my previous messgae who's body I include here: If you posess the copyright (i.e. not a bootleg-you have Jewel's permission) and you would like, I can make a CD from a DAT or other source. (This allows me to add to my collection). I will not however copy any material to which you do not hold the copyright. Michael D. Rubin Note I specifically state "not a bootleg." Regards, sorry for a spark (not a flame yet) Michael Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 02:10:10 -0400 From: CBrady9158@aol.com To: jewel@smoe.org Subject: A warning to everyone who has DAT When I posted I needed Jewel on DAT this guy named Michael (mickster@line01.li.net) said he probably not taping Jewelstock and asked if I was could I clone it and he would put it on CD. This is one of those people that puts concerts on CD and then charges $25 or $50 for a double CD. I don't want to this happen to any musician because they don't get any money from it. These are those "Import CD's". People who tape concerts should trade them and should n'ot be sold at ANY cost. Please DAT people don't give him anything. Thanks for your time! Chris Michael D. Rubin Product Manager, CD-Recorders Olympus Image Systems, Inc. Two Corporate Center Drive Melville, New York, 11747, USA (800) 347-4027 X 5312 ------------------------------ From: Karl M Fields Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Jewel-lucinations On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Tom Proven wrote: > [BI guess there is some reward for hours of MTV watching. At 3 am PST,they > replayed the Beach House appearance. I hadn't seen it before. Sorry I fell asleep on the floor in my living room in front of the fireplace last night (no, it wasn't cold outside, I live in Florida, but we had the air conditioning turned on real low). Anyway, for some strange reason, I woke up about 0230 EST, found the remote control, and saw the last few seconds of the WWSYS video on VH1 (it was my own fault, I shouldn't have checked first to see if "Teenage Cat-Girls in Heat" was on). I turned to MTV and vowed to watch until I saw the angelic Jewel. At about 0300 EST I was very surprised to see Jewel at "The Beach House." I, also, have never seen it before. She looked, and sang, so purdy. My heart stopped for about four minutes. Now Tom, if you saw it at 0300 PST, that would be 0600 EST. So, therefore, I can watch MTV and VH1 nonstop, and then I can E-mail you to tell you when it is going to be on! ;) From reading the reports of the Del Mar Fair, it sounds like it was a really good time. I have to say, though, if I had been strolling through the Fairgrounds and happend to walk by Jewel, I would have spontaneously combusted I think. If it was at a racetrack did she sing "Racecar Driver"? Karl "Glad I wasn't at the Del Mar fair because I would have exploded if I saw Jewel walking by me, and then the show would have been delayed because she would have had to go home and change" Fields ******************************************************************************* Concerning JewelStock: They can't stop us. We're on a mission from God. --Elwood Blues Karl M Fields kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Karl M Fields Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:04:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Online JewelStock Security On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, Andrew R. Tefft wrote: > For example, pick a demographic that does not usually browse the web, > let's say Maytag repairmen, and make the site about a Maytag Repairman's > retreat. Add sufficient pictures of Maytag appliances, and a few > links to other appliance sites on the net, and a good descriptive > url for the web indexers to find, like > http://your.site.here/~washerman/maytag/events/retreat.html > > and voila! Nobody is going to be out looking for washer/dryer > repairman retreats except possibly competitors, and heck, if > someone shows up looking for appliance-repair types, they should > probably be allowed to see Jewel to get cheered up anyway. We could even throw in Communism, as a red herring of course. ******************************************************************************* They can't stop us. We're on a mission from God. --Elwood Blues Karl M Fields kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: xenomorph@sprynet.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 07:11:44 -0700 Subject: Re: jewel NEWS list On Mon, 1 Jul 1996, diciccda@saber.udayton.edu wrote: > >I have recently joined a mailing list that is for "Tori NEWS" only... >that means, people can only post messages involving Tori's appearances, >concerts, or record releases. > >If you don't post hard and fast actual news, you are flamed intensely. > >Even with the digest, you might have to wade thru hundreds of useless or >unintesting messages. > >Any feedback would be appreciated :) > >A news only list would make some members lives much easier! >I am not saying that this discussion list is a bad idea...i like it... >but some members who want jewel news might not have the patience >for some of the stuff that goes on here. > >peace, > >dave >diciccda@saber.udayton.edu > This the reason why I'm so intent on keeping my website up to date with the current news. When something occurs, is posted in the list or wherever I may find it, it is added to my site so someone can just look and see all the latest pure Jewel news, facts, releases, etc... The Jewel list is good for discussion and getting to know some great people on here but if you just want the latest info (other than the list private Jewelstock), it can be a little bit of work so I try to make it easier. Adam Pieces of Jewel http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/xenomorph/jewelmn.htm ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:38:23 +0600 Subject: Its a boy well my sister finally had her kid at about three in the morning EST, big boy 8lbs 7ozs 22" needless to say I didn't get too much sleep last night, and this the first day of second summer session with my two new useless sociology classes, lucky me topics Death and Gender Issues Robb [w/ 12' Godzilla (& Thun-dar the little Kitty [aka Tricky]) & Fuzzy the purple bear] Me: hey boys were finally going to go to Woodstock!!!! Fuzzy: yea!!!! Me: hey 'Zilla don't look sad, Tricky can come too. 'Zilla: aaaaaachchchchchchhhhaaaaa.....(his happy noise) Me: Oh no not my bed!!! ------------------------------ From: CornflkGl@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Jewel on 'Singled Out' -AND- kitties >>>>I was watching eMpTyV's cheesy 'Singled Out' yesterday--don't ask why. One of the last questions in that winners circle was, "Jewel: Fake or Precious Talent"<<<< This got me really mad when I saw it too, but then I remembered something that I read somewhere ( and yes, I CAN be a little vauger, thank you very much :)). There's also a R&B/rap singer named Jewell. Two L's. It's blatantly obvious to me that THIS was the Jewell they were referring to, as OUR Jewel could never be anything less than real. *phew* BTW, Thun-der the Zilla kitty, currently residing at Piglet's house, was sent to him by Moi... We've still got 6 kitties to get rid of... anybody else interested :):);) ??? Rachel CornflkGL@aol.com "I'm still the Angel to a girl who hates to sin" --Tori ------------------------------ From: "jeffrey hanson" Date: Mon, 01 Jul 96 10:23:41 cdt Subject: Re[2]: Jewel on 'Singled Out' -AND- kitties Personally, I'm rather relieved that participants on Singled Out thought she was a Fake. I'd rather not have a lot of common with most of the people that appear on that show. By the way, did anyone catch the gay version of Singled Out that was supposed to air last Friday? It was supposedly the first gay dating game to ever air on a nationally broadcast program. I was going to make a point to watch it and then forgot. Jeff Hanson ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Jewel on 'Singled Out' -AND- kitties Author: CornflkGl@aol.com at NSDSMTP Date: 7/1/96 9:56 AM >>>>I was watching eMpTyV's cheesy 'Singled Out' yesterday--don't ask why. One of the last questions in that winners circle was, "Jewel: Fake or Precious Talent"<<<< This got me really mad when I saw it too, but then I remembered something that I read somewhere ( and yes, I CAN be a little vauger, thank you very much :)). There's also a R&B/rap singer named Jewell. Two L's. It's blatantly obvious to me that THIS was the Jewell they were referring to, as OUR Jewel could never be anything less than real. *phew* BTW, Thun-der the Zilla kitty, currently residing at Piglet's house, was sent to him by Moi... We've still got 6 kitties to get rid of... anybody else interested :):);) ??? Rachel CornflkGL@aol.com "I'm still the Angel to a girl who hates to sin" --Tori ------------------------------ From: "Michael Rubin" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:50:28 -5:00 Subject: Re: Anyone have Jewel on DAT? Well...no I do not have any CDs yet...I hope to make one for the Jewel list members of the Jewelstock show...is there interest? (I'm sure) and can someone contact Leandra to find out about taping the show? Michael From: Indisarray@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:48:11 -0400 To: mickster@li.net Subject: Re: Anyone have Jewel on DAT? >You obviously misunderstand.....most people either have a tape player or CD player...not DAT. I have no desire to "give" this CD >to anyone who is not on the list let alone sell...and if you look at any earlier postings from me. Hi! was just wondering from seeing your post that you have a recording of Jewel on cd that you might be offering....i would love to get a copy if so.....because she's brillant! undeniable! i have been on the jewel list for sometime now....but haven't read much in the last two weeks....that jewelstock thing depresses me....its so far away...but at least i've seen jewel three times .....i can live off memories..and the so far 6 tapes of the brillant one....so please let me know about the cd you've created cause me love the one known as Jewel.... thank you bobby p.s. a big handclap to you with the degrading of the evil money seeking bad person....they're everywhere... Michael D. Rubin Product Manager, CD-Recorders Olympus Image Systems, Inc. Two Corporate Center Drive Melville, New York, 11747, USA (800) 347-4027 X 5312 ------------------------------ From: "Peter Jones" Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 12:04:24 -0400 Subject: Central Virginia Angels Are there any Angels out there from Central Virginia? I know Robb (Piglet)is from southern (Blacksburg) VA, but I've not yet seen any other Virginians on the list. If you are out there and are anywhere near WVIR (NBC station), the most powerful station in Virginia (because they are UHF and have to have a strong signal to make it more than 5 miles), let me know. Also, after months of searching for Save the Linoleum, I finally got a chance to borrow it from the radio station I do a childrens' program on once a month. Most of you I realize have heard this cd, and probably have it in your private libraries, but it was a first for me. Having also not seen the fair lady live in concert before, it was great to actually hear her speak. Enough of my nonsensical rants, Peter ------------------------------ From: "Brett M. Eskin" Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 12:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I'm back on! What is going on here? I thought the 18th was the member night? - --BRett On Sat, 29 Jun 1996 Hiranya@aol.com wrote: > > > Wow. Im recovering from cyber-crash whip lash. OK. I > talked to Lenedra tonight. She said she conferred with 3 > charming gentlemen from the gang of five. So yes there is > a second concert. One Thurs and one Fri. The one Fri will > benefit the venue which is non-profit and needs an operating > budget. So a $10-$15 dollar ticket price is being discussed. > At first $5 was mentioned, but its a small venue and that > doesnt net all that much. Do you think $15 will be OK? The > first night is free of course and for list members only unless > there are a lot of seats left (not likely!). > > Well, more to come. Oh one thing. For those going, since Im > not able to, please request Rudolf for me! I love seeing them > sing together! (Lenedra and Jewel). > HIranya > ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Jewel's Next Album On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 Sinjin@ecn.com wrote: > 3. Not one foul word of flip-off (though we tried), was this > really our Jewel??? When you are performing at an event sponsored by a municipality, you gotta be more careful. Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: Dean Date: Mon, 01 Jul 96 12:33:57 EST Subject: Re: UFO??? On Fri, 28 Jun 1996 17:31:39 -0500 you said: >hey angels, > > there's a black and white picture of jewel on the ledge of a roof, >i'm sure everyone's seen it. i made it as a wallpaper for my screen and i >just noticed this; there seems to be a small single object hovering in the >air above the trees right about middle of the picture. has anyone else >noticed this? could it be a UFO?!? this reminds me of the kodak commercial >of the guy who took a picture of his dad, which had a UFO in the background. > >plus > I noticed it too. On further examining and zooming into the picture, I came to the conclusion that it's a helicopter. Of course I loose quite a bit of quality when I zoom into the image, but I still think that's what it is. Although if aliens where to visit Earth, they would get a wonderful view of us by hanging around Jewel. :) Dean Harris ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 10:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Question? That's what the US magazine article said, too. I think she may have "moved up" to a van when her mom moved into one also. Anybody? On Mon, 1 Jul 1996 Sinjin@ecn.com wrote: > Ready2Rock@Jewel.Stock > > Before I go to sleep to prepare for another 12.5 hour day tomorrow > (love my job though!), I had one question I hope someone can help me > with. At the Del Mar show (will I ever shut up about that damn > concert?) Jewel said she was living out of a green nissan hatchback, not > a VW van. This info is vital to the existance of our planet, please > help!!! > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > \ ***This is a test of*** / > / J -THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SINJIN- R \ > \ E U / > / W "Besides, what would I say L \ > \ E if I had you online?" E / > / L Sinjin@ecn.com S \ > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ > Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: Hiranya@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:08:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Question? About Jewel remark that she lived out of her green Datsun: Its true. When Jewel and her moved moved into their vehicles together, her mom had a VW van with a pop top and Jewel had the green Datsun station wagon which is tiny. Jewel slept in it, with her surf board and carrots and peanut butter and celery, while she looked for a van to buy. We all know what van she bought. She lived in the Datsun about a month and then in her van about 10 months. Her mom lived in her own van for about 6 months. It was her moms suggestion that they live in vans. Lenedra was recovering from health problems and only worked part time. Jewel had a job she hated and which she lost cuz the boss wanted to date her. He was a jerk and fired her in a very mean way. Jewel came home crying and scared and her mom said "Look, lets not stress over the money thing. This is San Diego, its warm, lets live in vans. If you have a really low overhead you can live off a little gig or tips. Go for your dream instead of this job this. Get a gig. " So thats what they did. They used to pull their vans side by side so the side doors matched and have tea together at sunset. They both had favorite spots they parked at night and would look for each other in those places when they needed to hook up. So thats the story, Hiranya ------------------------------ From: Hiranya@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:08:48 -0400 Subject: Jewel's stories Someone asked (paraphrased): At Del Mar, Jewel said it was the first time performing Satellite, but she actually sang it at the impromptu show at Java Joes a couple weeks before, why did she lie? Satellite: a) Jewel doesnt consider the first reading out of a book versions of her songs as performances in the same way that doing the arranged version in front of 9000 people is a performance b) lets not hold her toooo closely to the absolute and perfect truth. sstorytellers sometimes exagerate or try out versions. Jewel tries not to let things stray, corrects when they do, but hey, we all do this pretty much. And when you repeat things alot.... On repeating stories at shows. If Jewel were to tell diffrnt stories at every show she would need a gazillion stories and she just hasnt lived long enough yet. The challenge for a performer is to try to keep them fresh sounding. She does think shes due for some story changes on the next tour and is working on it. Oh, yeah, the girl Jewel was sighted arm in arm with is BiBi, Jewel's best friend who is also hired to attend show with her and do the details. She also toured with Jewel on the road last time--was in charge of merch and several things. She'll go out in the fall too. According to Lenedra, she's really really a great person. Hiranya ------------------------------ From: pjk@cybercom.net (Phil Kelnhofer) Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 13:21:39 -0400 Subject: JEWELSTOCK: T-shirt announcement The JewelStock T-shirts are going to the printer tomorrow afternoon. What I need to know is if anyone needs XXL shirts (they are $2) extra and need to be special ordered. Otherwise I am getting all Large and XL. They will be for sale at the Thursday concert for $10 please bring cash I don't want to deal with checks. For those of you not attending (or if I should sell out) they will be availible over the list for $12. I will post an announcement on how to order them after the concert. The design has been approved by Hiranya so away we go. See you there. pjk ps If you have any questions feel free to email me. ------------------------------ From: Chopped Liver Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 11:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Del Mar: one more thing. On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Jordan Snodgrass wrote: > She said that she had never performed "Sattelite" before.. well, she > played it at BOTH java joe's shows, so what's up with that? I noticed a > few new lyrics, and she didn't have to read them out of her book, so > maybe she meant that she had never performed the finished version > before.. Anyway, I was saddened that she had made that comment..if > anyone knows why she said it or what it really meant, please let me > know. > Many performers do that. They'll start out on a tour saying they just wrote a song a couple of days ago, and a month later they'll be saying the same thing. It's just showmanship, making each audience feel they are part of somehting new. Like when Jewel says she's surprised that poeple came to see her. Is she really surprised? Chopped Liver (Charlie) watkins@selway.umt.edu ------------------------------ From: AznMel@gnn.com (Mel) Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 10:44:10 Subject: Re: I saw a mirageee! (Bugs Bunny) > Hee hee, the girl (i forgot her name) that was on married w/ >children playing the role of Bud's cousin's wife to be and in the >movie bio-dome playing Pauly shores girlfriend.....Looks and really >really sounds like Jewel. If i didnt know it really wasnt her than >i would probably make the mistake of thinking she was Jewel! > >-Mel > >P.S. Bio-Dome was the suckiest movie ever made! dont know why i saw >it in the first place! > >> >>> ------------------------------ From: Kevin Young Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:52:33 GMT Subject: [none] I was also wathing mtv's singled out ( Jewel: fake or precious talent?) I'm sure the question was about our angel J.K. because the correct answer was precious talent. what do you think? kevin also. i saw jewel perform at the cotton club, atlanta-ga may 24. she is so talanted and personable. did anyone else see the show? i'm told it was her birthday-many people gave her presents. ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 14:14:57 -0400 Subject: Taping Jewelstock & other info Hi Chris & list members all, I'm responding to Chris' post to let you know whats happening on the above subject. As you may know, I had been asked to record this originally. As it now stands, the Bearsville staff will record it proffessionally since all the equipment is readily available. I'm sure that phenomenal results will be achieved by them. I spoke to Hiranya last night and she said that Bearsville will give me a DAT copy. I will copy it in the various formats needed for all the dubbing sites. Dan Stark, who originally distributed other tapes will be helping me to set up dubbing sites for distribution. You may be a welcome addition as one of those sites if you're up for it. Please wait to respond on this. A post will happen soon enough. There are very few of us with DAT cloning capability (Only 3 that I'm aware of). I will personally take care of whatever needs people have formatwise. When I was first told about these new plans, I was somewhat dismayed, but it will make for a much more enjoyable show(especially for my wife!) if I don't have to deal with lugging all the equipment down there and keeping it all safe before & after the performance. From what I know, there will be no taping allowed by list members. But ALL list members will be able to get the Thursday night show via the distribution. Also thanks to Chris for the info about the "CD guy". Since I've been archiving audio & video of Jewel, I've been approached by a bunch of people, as well. As you probably read a while back, I'm extremely "anti-bootlegging for profit" and I fear for the future regarding these things. I'm also in the process of finishing up a database on the recordings currently in the archive here(approximately 100 performances), some of which will also be available soon. Please contact me if you have audio or video recordings of Jewel and have not done so already. Lastly, I am back, so continue sending any updates corrections to me on the performance chronology. AmyJo & I will also be staying in a cabin at the Pinecrest Lodge which sounds like a great setup. I was also told by the Chamber of Commerce that the Rennaisance Fair is also taking place in Woodstock on July 18th & 19th so there should be plenty to do during the day. We look forward to meeting up with many of you soon.----Alan Bershaw ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #317 ***************************