From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #281 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Sunday, 16 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: If there is interest Yet one more New person! Pot (NJC) Your not the only new person! Ella Jewel audio/video archives Word for the Day... Re: Pot (NJC) ++++ and a Jewel confession Friday Jewelstock custom jewel cd's Concerning Emily Hess Jewel's Inspiration Re: Ella MTV Top 20 Re: If there is interest Re: jewel-digest V1 #280 yay!! Re: MTV Top 20 Skinny Pete's personal intro. Movie References and... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: clevland Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: If there is interest I would love to get it on cd. Count me in. ,Ryan On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Piglet wrote: > I was thinking the other day, > how many out there would like Interchange, Radio, and Rare on CD? > I have a few connections into getting it done, but haven't started yet > Will probably have to make twenty or so copies minimum, to get the blank CDs > Also will cost, just for the blanks, shipping, and possibly a manufacturing fee > if I had the equipment myself it would be just blanks and shipping but I don't > is there interest? > > Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] > > cause I'm drinking for the pleasure of falling - Cowboy Junkies > > Save the Sailor Moon show! > Save Our Sailors @ http://looney.physics.sunysb.edu/~daffy/sos/ > ------------------------------ From: Tom Hubbard Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 01:30:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Yet one more New person! Hello I'm totaly new to this list and just as new to Jewel also. You can hate me for not catching on quicker I'm even kicking myself for that. I heard WWSYS on the radio a few times in a day and drove right to the record store and for the past few weeks my soul has been captivated by her beautiful voice. I'll step up for the song and dance now (I'm suprised nobody has copied the ME poem for this thread). Im 19 and will soon be a second year college student studying computers for the big lifelong work transaction. To get to something more important, music, and to blow the diversity issue a bit more wide open just let me ramble a bit. I've been playing guitar everyday for about two years. Everything from Robert Johnson to the Doors, Black Crowes, Dylan, Megadeath, Nirvana Willie Nelson etc.. have made their bright mark on my musical conscience. Most of all I must mention Stevie Ray Vaughan I know alot of you have stoped reading but SRV's take on Little Wing should be listened to by anyone whoes ever shed a tear over the music of Jewel. It's the same mixture of pain and passion that grasps the mind and takes it into a new realm thats so powerfull you cant help leaking from the eyeball. I'll try starting a new thread right here, tell us everyone, how has Jewels music affected you? Someone mentioned they got through some complicated with the help of Jewel, well how about you? My take on pot is this, it's simply not what it's cracked up to be. That goes for the desired effects and the propaganda effects. As far as tobacco, I have yet to see a desired effect. ** Sacrafice your bathtub to the porcelain god while you still have a breathing chance, and dont forget George washington never had the chance to flush his pot, But he sure did have his mojo working. ** ------------------------------ From: j.mullins1@genie.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 07:00:00 UTC 0000 Subject: Pot (NJC) At 07:46 AM 6/14/96 -0700, Jared S. Hosid wrote: > Let me be as brief as I can. Alcohol and Drugs (INCLUDING Marijuana) are >BAD NEWS. So is getting up and facing the day every morning. There are a million ways to die every day. But we still do it every day, don't we? I do, and I love my life, more so now than ever, in fact. > Let's start with alcohol. I have never felt as bad in my life as I have >from hangovers. I prayed for death. Well I guess if you could control yourself, you wouldn't have hangovers...even when I get drunk (which is very rare), I get up the next day and go to work or whatever needs being done that day. No praying for death or whining about a hangover which is my fault anyway. >Do what you want, but nothing gives you the right to take away the life of > an innocent person by driving drunk. That's irresponsibility, a totally different subject... > As far as drugs.. I'll deal specifically with marijuana because I would >really like to assume that we can all accept the harder stuff as >fundamentally insane. Marijuana is most definitely addicting. Not >physically perhaps, but sometimes the mind is much more powerful than the >body. Pot is only addictive mentally to those who, again, CAN'T CONTROL THEMSELVES. I know literally hundereds of people who have smoked and then stopped. Wether for good or for a while (myself included). >I want all of you pot smokers to ask yourselves HONESTLY if you can >stop TODAY. Be honest with yourself. "I don't want to quit" is not an >answer. Can you? I doubt it. I've seen many people use that excuse who >couldn't let it go if there was a gun to their head. Now all of a sudden you're telling God knows how many people what they are and are not able to do. I can quit for as long as I want. I don't need pot to function or live up to any of my responsibilities and have proven that a thousand times over. > Now, I have been through a lot of problems in my life with friends >starting smoking pot and COMPLETELY CHANGING. I don't need medical proof, >the stuff changes you. I can go on and on about this since its touched my >life so dramatically. Well, it does happen. Not everyone can handle pot, and not everyone can handle life. Remember, life is change. And there are many changes that people go through in life that affect them in many different ways. Maybe it wasn't THEM changing, but you? You can't make a definitive statement on something that is done the world over based on your experiences. You can only talk about your experiences alone. > As a side note, I would say that 100% of the people who didn't make it > to graduate with my class this year smoke pot. Interperet that the way > you want. And how many of the people who DID graduate smoke? That you know of, that is. And of the ones that didn't, how many of them have problems at home or girlfriend/boyfriend problems or maybe had two jobs and couldn't stay awake in class or had to deal with the loss of a loved one or were sick or faced other changes in their life? I would guess that you know all of this because of your blanket statement above... > Pot is NOT cool. And its use will never decrease while we allow it to >be looked at as such. I am one of the biggest Beatles and Dylan fans you >will ever meet in your life. I appreciate their music and lyrics like you >could never imagine - and I do it all sober. I've got news for you...it's use will never decrease, no matter what. Everyone who smokes cigarettes knows they are unhealthy, yet they still smoke. I don't think there's a cokehead, junkie, alcoholic, or speed freak who would be surprised if told "that stuff's bad for you". And no matter what you say about pot, people will still smoke it. And it'll always be available because the big bosses in the gov't are making so much money under the table (which is why it'll probably never be legalized, BTW) from it, and the demand will always be there. Try letting people make their own decisions instead of saving all of us who disagree. I've lost a lot of people in my life to hard drugs but I'm not going to tell any one person not to do it (let alone get on my soapbox about it), because it's their life and their decision. If I have moral issues with it, then I just will not associate myself with that person. Now, let me say CONGRATULATIONS! to you since you can enjoy Beatles and Dyaln music sober. Wow. So can I. I also listen to Jefferson Airplane music completely straight and sober. The point is would that music have been created to be the same without drugs? I don't think so. And while I'm not the God of All Musical Opinions, I am a songwriter currently working on a record deal and I'm very familiar with the thought processes that songwriting work through. > I believe one of the themes of the album Peices of You is about how sad > it is that people need all sorts of temporary artificial highs to "save > their souls." Refer to Little Sister. Listen to the lyrics, will you? Little Sister is about hard drugs...I've never known any pot smoker to go knocking on someone's door at 4am looking for more pot. Please explain the humorous reference to "better than watching Star Trek after you've smoked weed" in Jewel's "Race Car Driver". And explain why Jewel was with Steve for all that time if he smoked (and I'm under the impression he does). If you feel that strongly about what you preach, the I guess you are not a fan of Jewel's because her views may not agree with yours...no? Was your post really as brief as it could have been? Shakey (j.mullins1@genie.geis.com) "You're the tune that's in my head In the concert in my bed" ------------------------------ From: AznMel@gnn.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 01:50:17 Subject: Your not the only new person! Im new here too! Hmmm, stuff about me; i like everything! I wished i knew Jewel before she was on letterman a few months ago, before i first saw her i didnt know who this Jewel person was until i was captured by her voice and beauty when i was watching MTV watching my usuall alternative rock videos. But now i can start, and i started by getting on the mailing list for the very first time, sooo Hi everybody! If your wondering, im 15 years old and a upcomming sophmore in HS! PEACE!!! -Mel ------------------------------ From: Tom Proven Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 02:41:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Ella Sad news...Ella Fitzgerald died Saturday morning. She was a great influence on Jewel, as you can tell from her admiration before "Very Big Girl" on Rare Angels. She will be missed and remembered. If you don't know her, check her out. Tom email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us "There's a logic to a lonely life away from all I've known. If no one sees things your way, you can still see them alone." "Keep an eye on me, I shimmer on horizons." ------------------------------ From: ABershaw@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:14:11 -0400 Subject: Jewel audio/video archives Hi All, In yesterdays digest I noticed that J.Mullins asked: << What's the status of the 5-4 tree?>> I have sent my DAT of this (2nd band gig from John Anson Ford Theater along with the Jewel/Dylan duet on "I Shall Be Released" from Providence on 4/18/96) to Dan S who is kind enough to take the time to figure out details on how to tree it. I'm sure an announcement will be forthcoming very soon. I have located quite a few excellent DAT recordings of Jewel with more on the way. I will continue to provide these for list distribution so some great recordings can be enjoyed by all of you. I have also begun (with Lenedra & Hiranya's permission & encouragement) to establish an official Jewel audio & video archives. I have contacted a lot of my Sound tech friends around the country and they are helping me track down quality recordings. I've also contacted DAT-heads (of which I subscribe also) and would appreciate any help from (this) list members that have recorded her in the past. Please contact me (if you havent already) by private email. This archives is in its very beginning stages & already has over 90 performances. I look forward to meeting many of you soon. Best wishes. Alan ------------------------------ From: Tim Schoenberg Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 08:10:21 -0600 Subject: Word for the Day... Hi, Tim word for the day is.... VERISIMILITUDE A noun meaning:The quality of appearing to be true or real. Stupidity like water finds it's own level....... Rise above or go away!!!!! ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:39:46 -0400 Subject: Re: Pot (NJC) ++++ and a Jewel confession I love this thread. I think I figured out why I don't smoke pot. While reading the overwhelming number of posts on the subject I kept thinking about the experiences I have had with friends who smoke. I DON'T SMOKE BECAUSE I AM AFRAID. I have never known a person who's life has gotten better as the result of pot or alcohol. I do know several who have ruined their lives with it. The smartest kid I have ever seen started with pot. By his assotiation with other pot smokers he was turned on to harder drugs, which he swore he would never do. He eventually dropped out of school and now is a greens keeper back home. I can't help but think if he never started smoking he wouldn't have screwed up. I think he is getting his life together now but look at the time he has wasted. Time is so precious. I realize that that is not the story for everyone. I know that people can function normally even though they smoke but my fear is that I wouldn't. I am afraid that if I started I wouldn't be able to stop. The truth is that it does change some people. I really don't think that it is bad to be afraid. "We have nothing to fear but fearlessness" >REM< As far as drinking, I probably will drink when I turn 21 in a couple of months but for right now it just doesn't seem worth it. My driver's license is very important to me. I also don't need to be busted by a bike cop at 1 in the morning while pissing on a tree in the middle of campus, drunk off my ass and told to zipper up so I can cuff you (true story). I must confess that when I saw Jewel for the first time I said to my friend, who had no idea who she was, If she sounds half as good as she looks it will be an amazing show. Well, she sounded twice as good as she looks, which is pretty darn good, which is why I write here today. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: rwm126@psu.edu (Rich Melko) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:40:03 -0400 Subject: Friday Jewelstock I want to beg for a Friday date. I know we have very little control but please try to make it a friday. Two shows would be good too. I don't know but I might have problems getting off two days from work. I will personally take Jewel out to dinner saturday night if that would help. I wouldn't mind, I swear. I am willing to sacrifice one night of my life for the good of all those on the list who might be in the same perdicament as me. Rich Melko rwm126@psu.edu ################################# Jerry - You're Crazy. Kramer - Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind. ################################# ------------------------------ From: 5858@connectnet.com (jeff F) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: custom jewel cd's hi, i have a friend who is willing to make us cd's of any compilations we would like. the cost will be $18 for a 74 min disc. he normally charges about $35 to make a disc for someone. he is willing to do this because he also really likes her music and doesn't mind helping get it out to people. he would be making about $3 a disc after postage, the blank disc and the bubble wrap package. those upset by his making a profit ($3 a disc) please remember that sometimes cd transfers get messed up and when that happens, you have to throw away the disc. this is a relativly common problem (1 out of 20 or so). you also need to realize that this is not done in a studio, it is all done real time recording on his pc so it takes a great deal of time and keeps him from doing other projects where he could be making more money. he also mentioned that he could have a cover and tray card printed for about $2 a disc and could also have printing done on the disc for another $1-2. this would drive the cost to about $22 a disc and there would have to be enough intetrest. if any are interested, please e-mail me personally. i will keep a list and if we get enough interest, i will get back to you with the details. jeff 5858@connectnet.com ------------------------------ From: volcano@sirius.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 23:06:24 -0700 Subject: Concerning Emily Hess Hi all, This is for the benifit of anyone that read my post from a couple of weeks ago reguarding Emily Hess. Although since I posted it during the week Jewelstock came about I doubt any of ya even paid attention! (Except for Duff, the woman!!) ;) Anyways, I wanted to tell everyone publically that Emily Hess did not rip me off and sent my $20 bucks back to me after trying not once but *TWICE* to find a specific Jewel shirt I wanted. So my good faith that there was a reason I had not heard from her was accurate. Thanks to Emily for trying to get me the shirt. Also hi to everyone. I've been off line for a few days and hope everyone has been well. Peace, Candra ------------------------------ From: Sinjin@ecn.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 21:41:21 GMT Subject: Jewel's Inspiration The question was asked, "How has Jewel's music helped you through a tough time?" Well, Jewel's music hasn't delivered me through any difficult phases of my life, but I'll tell you how it did inspire me. I'm training to be a fireman, which is extremely difficult to get hired as. I've tested for departments who had only 3 openings and over 3000 applicants showed up to take the written. It is so competitive that a majority of the people to whom I say, "I want to be a fireman" say something like, "Oh, it's too tough. You'll never get on because you're too young/laid-back/white/male/(insert other BS excuse here)." After a while, the constant pessimistic views started to get to me and I began to doubt myself, doubt whether I'd ever get hired as a fireman. Then I heard Jewel's story of how she quit her job as a waitress and moved into her van by the beach to persue what she loved, a singing career. That inspired me to never give up. Instead of forgetting my dreams of being a fireman, I've doubled my efforts towards getting hired. If I have any characteristics that slow me from obtaining my goal, I don't use them as an excuse, I just try harder to overcome my setbacks. It's not an easy dream to reach, I admit that, but it is within my grasp. Every year hundreds of people are hired as firemen, that just means I've got to be better than most everyone else, and I'm up to the challenge. I still may never get hired, but if that is what my future holds, at least I'll be secure in knowing I took the risk and gave it 100%, just like Jewel risking homelessness by moving into her van. Some says I still get depressed and begin to think that I may never succeed, but after listening to a few tracks from Jewel my soul is invigorated with a sense of "If Jewel can do it...so can I!" Thanks Angels for listening, I hope Jewel has an affect on you too, and that you share it with us! /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \ ***This is a test of*** / / J -THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SINJIN- R \ \ E U / / W "Besides, what would I say L \ \ E if I had you online?" E / / L Sinjin@ecn.com S \ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ------------------------------ From: Aaron Matthew Suever Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:30:42 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Ella On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Tom Proven wrote: > Sad news...Ella Fitzgerald died Saturday morning. > She was a great influence on Jewel, as you can tell from her admiration > before "Very Big Girl" on Rare Angels. She will be missed and > remembered. If you don't know her, check her out. Yes, I heard about it this morning. I didn't even know she was still alive. On the radio, they said she was 78 and that she had 250 or so albums to her credit. I don't know if a lot of those are old vinyl singles, but wow! That's just incredible. If Jewel can make one tenth as many records, I'll be more than happy :] ------------------------------ From: derrick.karacostas@utmb.edu Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Subject: MTV Top 20 I was watching MTV yesterday morning (a rare occurence), and noticed that Jewel's video was #7 for the weekly top 20 countdown. She's moving up! I thought it was too cool. I'd love to see her video hit #1, after being released so long ago. A local radio station here also mentioned some info about her before playing WWSYS today. Like her having done 3 soundtracks, and currently working on another CD. That's the first time I ever heard anything other than an introduction of the song. Derrick ------------------------------ From: KKFRYE@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:29:30 -0400 Subject: Re: If there is interest I definitely have an interest in having Innerchange, Radio, and Rare on CD. Anybody else second the idea? Kay KKFRYE@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Truna@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:37:39 -0400 Subject: Re: jewel-digest V1 #280 In a message dated 96-06-16 01:05:55 EDT, you write: >I was looking through the TV listings, and Duncan Sheik >is listed as a guest on Conan O'Brien's show this Thursday >(June 20), in case anyone is interested. He is? i'll try and watch it. he's really good! ------------------------------ From: Debbie Jaret Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:20:39 -0700 Subject: yay!! I just had to go through 200+ messages on this list, because I was busy all weekend, but it was worth it because... I am now a college graduate!!!!!!!! Yee-ha!!!! ...um, are any of you hiring a sociology and religious studies major? (ha ha) oh well, I tried. Anyway, congrats to everyone who is graduating HS/college this month...and sorry for the non-Jewel content (except to say to my leaves that I'll be able to start the tapes tomorrow now that my family is about to go back home!! thanks for waiting) Deb ------------------------------ From: volt@best.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 19:08:18 -0700 Subject: Re: MTV Top 20 At 07:22 PM 6/16/96 -0500, derrick.karacostas@utmb.edu wrote: > >A local radio station here also mentioned some info >about her before playing WWSYS today. Like her having done 3 soundtracks, Can somebody please enumerate these soundtracks? I'd like to check out what else she's done. TIA, volt ------------------------------ From: SkinnyPete@aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:10:53 -0400 Subject: Skinny Pete's personal intro. Everyone is writing the list and giving little introductions but I never formally introduced myself, so I thought that you all would like to know a little about me. Well, I have green, scaly skin, a soft yellow underbelly with a series of fin-like ridges running down my spine and tail. Although lizardlike in shape, I can grow anything up to thirty feet in length with huge teeth that can bite off great rocks and trees. I inhabit arid and sub-tropical zones and have a daffy duck tattoo. While some tribes hail me as a god I am most well known for my ability to count the number of words in any given sentence without really having to think (31). I enjoy archery, target vomiting, sarcasm, Jewel, speling beez, and long romantic walks on the beach. In my spare time I'm queen of England. - Skinny Pete p.s. See my new homepage at "www.skinnious.petious/jewel/animal-rights/oxy-medicated-pads/armor/hockey/ABB A/jackson5/vampire-slayer/just-joking/this-is-fake" ------------------------------ From: Piglet Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:16:07 +0600 Subject: Movie References and... Just finished watching Henry and June (the film about the relationship between Anais Nin and Henery Miller)...all I can say is wow. It has been so long, might even be the first film to completly draw me in to such a point where everything else is blocked out. The scene towards the end with June and Henery fighting and then Anais and June alone what emotion what power what acting. Don't know if this is Ulma Thurmon's first film, she plays June, but she was just amazing what an actress. The director, don't remember his name, got them to completly get into their roles. If you do not know anything about these people this film is a great introduction, the film that Anais wanted to tell her story. A movie that I would buy. Then there is the Pavro Naruda (sp) movie, Lousia and Her Blue Guitar) the man who may have just inspired Jewel to get Big Blue, El Postino or the Postman. Though the film is subtitled it draws you in so much that you don't even notice them anymore. This film may of ment so much to me cause I first saw it in an old one theater cinema that is currently being refirbished, sort of looks like the theater from the old Muppet Show. Also at the time I was falling in love with a beautiful young lady and ended up repeating her full name over and over, if you've seen the movie you will know what I mean. Wonderful movie. Also for those that didn't know the main actor dies soon after the film was finished from heart disease, that is on of the reasons why he is filmed in the shadows for most of the movie because he is so pail faced. love, love, passion, excitment, sensuality, eroticism, longing, life, love, love And when you cry you were never nothing less than beautiful so don't you weep I'm your angel standing by Jewel moves me, she makes me feel my heart in my chest, pumping the life through me well friends I have homework to finish and its late goodnight everyone and Jewel where ever you are... Robb (Sailor Jove) [w/ guests 12' Godzilla and Fuzzy the purple bear] You might be let down, I'm not a hermaphrodite. Hey few are. - -Clerks-its a movie, its a way of life ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #281 ***************************