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jewel-digest              Wednesday, 12 June 1996      Volume 01 : Number 269

                               Today's Subjects:
                               -----------------
       Java joe show
       Seattle Tree Structure
       Apolgies (re: Java joe show postings)
       Re: LTD: When I Was With You
       Seattle tree BRANCH 2 - IMPORTANT!!
       The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment
       "Isn't that big yet," he says.
       New songs (was Re: Jessica--Petition from Fans)
       How can I....?
       I thought I was getting old.
       Re: Re Smoking : My Soapbox.
       Re: I thought I was getting old.
       Re[2]: Jessica--Petition from Fans

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From: John Knepp <jknepp19@mail.idt.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:52:27 -0700
Subject: Java joe show

I was at the second java joe show and I just want to say 
that it was great no matter circumstances surrounding the 
performance. The movement of the concert outside just 
allowed for even a better memory. The quality of the 
performance was excellent. The only less than cool part 
was joe's damned greedy nature. Oh yeah and this Aussie 
dude who stepped on this young girl, spilt beer on her and 
called her a b*tch for her trouble. Enough of the negative 
Jewel is one of my  favorite female singers and I cannot 
wait untill she returns.

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From: David Carta <dcarta@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Radio Angels

Hello,

I'm looking for my Radio Angels Tape Tree contact.  Her name was Amanda
(Heaton?) and she lived in Fremont.  I sent her a tape a while back and have
sent her a few e-mail since, but I have gotten no tape back nor any replies
to my e-mail.  Does anyone on the list know how I might contact Amanda?  I'm
really looking forward to getting this tape....

Thanks!

- -David Carta
dcarta@ucsd.edu

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From: "Diane F. Fisli" <dff@peterwhite.com>
Subject: Re: Peter WHO? and DW

Okay, here's a good place to start:

>> P.S. Can anybody tell me why Peter White looks so upset on the back cover of
>> LWNY? I can't figure that one out.
>
>Well, seeing as how its DANNY White, he's probably ticked off at you for 
>confusing him with his older brother, Peter.

Danny White, for some unknown reason, seems to like to appear as a "mystery
man"...  Peter says it's because he's not comfortable with doing the "PR
thing", such as appearing at an autograph session, etc...  He just wants to
do the music and go home and live a normal life without being a "star"...

Actually Danny is very nice, even tho he appears to be morose most of the
time he can smile and laugh and all that stuff...  He's just "deep"...  It's
the quiet ones you have to watch out for!  ;-)

>
>Ooops. Is Peter White someone real (i.e. a somewhat popular musician) or did
>that just pop into my head?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jeff
>

I can hear Peter laughing at that one already!  And I am, too...  I'll begin
to worry when I *don't* have to explain who Peter is, to most people...
Maybe when he's on the cover of People Magazine or Time, or (god forbid) the
Enquirer...  :)

>>Actually,  LWNY has a few songs relating to Basia's failed romance with 
>>the aforementioned Mr White (Danny not Peter)   Could that be the souce 
>>of his gloom?
>>Just a thought :-)
>>Joel
>>

I think the break-up was a mutually agreed-upon thing...  They're (Danny &
Basia) still working together, and still on very good terms...

>Somebody slap me if I'm wrong, but I thought the two of them were married
>(presently, that is).
>
>Jeff, the uninformed
>

Heh heh...  But not *that* good of terms...  ;-)

>>P.S. Can anybody tell me why Peter White looks so upset on the back cover of
>>LWNY? I can't figure that one out.
>
>Hey, Jeff. He looks so upset because :
>
>*Basia is steping on his feet. And unfortunately, she just arrived
>from her Sunday golf and wearing those golf shoes. :->
>
>*The album was so succesful and a big hit, but the popularity goes
>only to Basia.
>
>*Basia recieves more money from the royalty and percentage of live
>concert tickets than he does.
>
>*His finger is stuck dead in the piano's drawer when Basia accidently
>bump it closed while he was playing it.
>
>*Basia told him that he was a great pianist and composer but has a bad
>breath.
>
>*He's found out that Basia got a date with someone named Peter Black.
>
>and finally the most disturbing one:
>
>*He was told by her doctor that Basia was once a man.
>
>
>ps: onnly jokes. She's still a great singer, OK!
>

These are really funny!!!  Peter White once had an Al Stewart tune he
co-penned attributed to Al Stewart and Peter *Green*...  Ah, obscurity...  

Hey I believe that this "lite jazz" or NAC (new adult contemporary) format
stuff is actually becoming the new MOR (middle of the road)...  Time or
Newsweek or someone like that did a HUGE story (so huge I missed it
entirely, but this is what I hear) about it some weeks back...  Us
baby-boomers have money, like this stuff, and are buying it!  What a concept!

>> Ooops. Is Peter White someone real (i.e. a somewhat popular musician) or did
>> that just pop into my head?
>
>Man, I do NOT want to be around when Diane gets that message... ;)
>
>JSL.

Don't worry, Jeff @ Rust I'll let ya live...  ;-)

Actually, if you'd give Peter White's stuff half a chance, it's really
pretty good.  (my biased opinion, naturally, but there ya have it!)  Peter's
newest album will be out hopefully within a month or so (and might even
include a cut with Basia singing on it)(keep thinking good thoughts, guys!),
but in the interim, try "Promenade" for PW-penned tunes, or "Reflections"
for covers you will recognize...  Or if you like Al ("Year Of The Cat")
Stewart, check out his "Rhymes In Rooms" cd for an acoustic duo live set
with PW...

And yep, PW's a darned busy musician, he's on a *LOT* of albums because he
likes to work with (and learn from) a lot of different people...  

All in a day's work!

(Bless USRobotics!)

- --Di.

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Gadzooks, I've missed a lot since I've been out of touch!  Will tackle this
in a couple of posts...

>On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Jeff @ Rust Systems wrote:
>
>> Okay, he also put out some solo albums and played on "Y Can't Tori Read",
>
And Roach responded:
>Oh my god... no way! Peter White!!?!?
>
Uh huh.  He's there, somewhere, with his guitar...  Try and find him...  ;-)

I'm back from an unfortunately enforced vacation from the net -- my modem
died.  After struggling and struggling with the tech support people, they
sent me a new one which also did not work.  I was impatiently awaiting a
check so I could go out and buy a RELIABLE modem, and the check arrived
Tuesday...  SO...  Here I am, with 52 or so backlogged e-mails to go
through...  Just caught this and thought I'd respond...

I think before my modem died I might have popped up to say that it looks
like the PW/Basia tune will happen...  Haven't heard definitely yet...  

Don't buy a Cardinal modem...  USRobotics, that's the one to buy...

Glad to be back...  

- --Di.

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At 01:15 AM 6/1/96 EDT, Meng & others wrote:
(Meng)>am wondering if anyone knows of a Basia Fan Club and 
>other details like tour dates.  

(JSL)>that Biggin Hill address on the 
>albums is probably just a correspondence address. 

Actually, that Biggin Hill address is to their (Basia & Danny's) business
office.  Peter (White, remember him?) (HA!) told me that they *do* read
their mail, try to write, you never know, maybe Ms. T. or Danny White will
answer!

If you'd like to write to *Peter* White, try him at P.O. Box 15906, North
Hollywood CA, 91615.  He tries to respond to all notes he receives, so it's
much more likely you'll get some kind of reply!  :)


(Phil)>See, the original posting had it _Spike Jones_, which is different. I am 
>sure I am the only one here who recalls him at all. 

Not true.  Somewhere in my collection of weird records I have a 78 (before
my time, really, it was my PARENT's record) of Spike Jones doing "Der
Fuhrer's Face" - a trite but funny slam on the Nazis and their salute to
Adolf Hitler...

Now *Jonze*, well...  I am not much in the mainstream of things, locked in
my little apartment in the middle of Lost Angeles without any benefit of
cable TV (gasp!), but I DID see that "Buddy Holly" vid...  It's just another
case of sampling, to my mind...  Only instead of sound, it's video...  Sure,
it's artfully done, I saw the vid as "cute", and all that, but a *GOD*???
Well.  Orson Wells, Stanley Kubrick, or Francois Truffaut he ain't...
They're not gods either, but I'll watch their movies time and again...  That
Jonze vid?  Once was fine...

Maybe I just need to see some other stuff he's done, but from what I've read
here, more than likely just once will probably do...

Then again, this is coming from someone who freely admits she honestly
appreciates such (stupid) comedy classics as the very obscure Sylvester
Stallone movie "Oscar"...  Let's face it, I do enjoy a good worn-out old
joke from time to time!  (heh!)

Wakka-Wakka!   

- --Di.

    oh, and btw, JSL wrote:  >VH-1 sucks. Plain and simple.<

Sad how it's fallen.  They used to play great stuff, too.  Now they're a
pale imitation of what MTV used to be before they got into sports.  ;-)

    And Phil >TSI (I think I'm the only one on the planet who actually didn't
    mind it)<

I liked it too.  Jeez, Phil, we must be of the same age/background...

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From: "Ken Winchenbach" <walden@nh.ultranet.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:55:29 +0000
Subject: Seattle Tree Structure

     Below is the structure for the Seattle Tape Tree.  All sign-ups 
are over, so if you are not signed up and suddenly decide you want 
the tape, you'll have to arrange something yourself.  Perhaps you can 
email one of the branches and see if they are willing to take on a 
straggler.
     
      If you are a leaf on the tree, than look down through the list 
and find your name.  Your name and email address will be under the 
heading of one of the branches.  That person listed is your branch.  
That is who you will be getting the tape from.  Please email them and 
start to make arrangements to get the tape.  DO NOT WAIT TO HEAR FROM 
YOUR BRANCH.  It is your duty to contact them.  

     If you are sure you signed up, but cannot find your name 
anywhere, you can let me know.  But I'll be gone in a few days, so it 
would probably be easier for you to just find someone to take you on 
as a straggler.  Unfortunately I'm not going to be around to 
straighten out any problems with the tree, so I hope that it runs 
smoothly, and you can all iron out your problems yourself.

      On a private note to all the branches.  Please let me know if 
you have gotten the tape or not, if you haven't already.  And also, 
please remember to send me a tape, blank or not.  I'm going to be 
gone, so I won't be able to remind you.

                      Ken Winchenbach
                         68 Linden St.
                       Exeter, NH 03833

Ok, here it is:

Branch 1: Adam Longfellow <xenomorph@sprynet.com>
     -Roger Branstetter <rbranste@grove.ufl.edu>
     -Sandy Jones <bluemoon@gacoast.COM>
     -J.J. Cooper <jjcooper@mto.infi.net>
     -Derrick Karacostas <derrick.karacostas@utmb.edu>
     -James Judd <juddjam@eng.auburn.edu>
     -Lauren Wilshusen <jplummer@trip.net>
     -Robert Ellsworth <rhe@hiwaay.net>
     -Kay Frye <KKFRYE@aol.com>
     -John Van Derlofske <vando@liger.uah.edu>

Branch 2: Andrew Levstein <lev@direct.com>
     -James McGarry <jmcgarry@UoGuelph.CA>
     -St. John Moore <smoore@direct.ca>
     -Ryan Cleveland <clevland@kendaco.telebyte.com>
     -Matthew Kortas <korasma@acm.msu.edu>
     -Matthew Reynolds <mreynold@uoguelph.ca>
     -Luis Araujo <laraujo@passport.ca>
     -Hollie White <WHITE17@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
     -Bryce Wood <zombie2@ix.netcom.com>

Branch 3: Bob Kollmeyer <rjk1@cs.wustl.edu>
     -W. Michael Smith <DocHarley@msn.com>
     -Kamyar Aram <aram.1@osu.edu>
     -Mike Reams <ratbert@gnn.com> or <mreams@cerner.com>
     -Bill Swideriski <bswider@aol.com>
     -Laura Capello <lcapello@student.longview.cc.mo.us>
     -Jennifer Van Dine <vandinej@pilot.msu.edu>
     -Jeremy D. Smith <corgan@sciboard.spdlan.louisville.edu>
     -Lisa Schiller <schiller@dave-world.net>
     -Rich Christy <Rich978@aol.com>
     -Jason Evans <jjonline@midwest.net>

Branch 4: Brett Eskin <bmeskin@mailbox.syr.edu>
     -Brendan Pugh <bpugh@earthlink.net>
     -David Mocko <mocko@climate.gfsc.nasa.gov>
     -Matthew Nowakowski <honda@wam.umd.edu>
     -Heidi Heller <ho@his.com>
     -Doug Smith <bs00017@epfl2.epflbalto.org>
     -Mark Nissley <nestle@ptd.net>
     -Eric Penna <Vchesnutt@aol.com>
     -Steve Sak <ssak@well.com>

Branch 5: Debbie Jaret <djaret@ucsd.edu>
     -Ken Lee <kenmlee@ix.netcom.com>
     -Jason Szeto <szetoj@uclink.berkeley.edu>
     -Mark Lipawen <adbivium@yahoo.com>
     -Kasie Morgan <Kmorgan632@aol.com>
     -Jeff Farrell <5858@connectnet.com>
     -Timothy D. Celmer <KPHQ23A@prodigy.com>
     -Mark Salamon <marksalamon@earthlink.net>
     -Kurt Jensen <kajensen@puc.edu>
     -Mark McCormick <markmc@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
     -Christian Sinclair <csinclair@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>

Branch 6: Dennis Harris <ddhaoc@aol.com>
     -Dave Liebson <dliebson@mit.edu>
     -Chris Snyder <gegertha@tiac.net>
     -P.J. Kelnhofer <pjk@cybercom.net>
     -Bradley Gerard Vargovick <g10683@email.mot.com>
     -Ed Hodgin <edhodgin@email.unc.edu>
     -Aaron Walker <lazlo@nebula.net>
     -Gary McDonald <macdonga@cs.bc.edu>
     -Dave Wilbur <moppage@aol.com>
     -Terrill Chalmers <tsc@efn.org>
     -Jeff Lash <jefflash@map.com>

Branch 7: Gerrit Kruidhof <amethyst@endor.org>
     -Tom Proven <provent@pls.lib.ca.us>
     -Carolyn Salvador <Truthseecr@aol.com>
     -Sabra R. Beddes <Sabra.Richardson@m.cc.utah.edu>
     -Siamik Naficy <snaficy@ucla.edu>
     -Jeff Peterson <jeffpete@primenet.com>
     -Hope Tiedt <hopet@netnet.net>
     -Jason Aeschilman <1aeschja@mystic.slcc.edu>
     -Peter Mielech <pwmielech@stthomas.edu>
     -Scott Hamilton <ska4me@primenet.com>

Branch 8: Linus Gelber <linus@panix.com>
     -Anthony Amato <AA@worldnet.att.net>
     -Bob Damis <bdamis@aol.com>
     -James Close <jsclose@salamander.net>
     -Angela <Angela6359@aol.com>
     -Jeffrey Eden <je42@columbia.edu>
     -Bill Goodliff <BillSA3@aol.com>
     -Maarten van Dantzich <mvd@eskimo.com>

Branch 9: Mike Gonzalez <speedygo@interramp.com>
     -Eric Montas <RoninAM@worldnet.att.net>
     -Sean Hooks <SHOOKS@drew.edu>
     -Jay Klein <klein@way.com>
     -Rob Beckham <beck@netside.com>
     -Allison Bieller <big_al@erinet.com>
     -Michael Szabo <cheezy@newreach.net>

Branch 10: Paul Kim <pkkim@unix.amherst.edu>
     -Robb Leigh <rleigh@vt.edu>
     -Michael Solomon <michael.solomon@chronicle.com>
     -Brian Mendonca <bgmendon@mintz.com>
     -Sam Lindsey <Lindsey@virginia.edu>
     -Lauren Phipps <jphipps207@aol.com>
     -Kelley Churgin <satnin@netcom.com>
     -Katie Johnson <K8tMae@aol.com>
     -Patricia Harada <bailey96@erols.com>

                ---------K e n----------      
                      <<Old Black>>
                   walden@nh.ultranet.com
             http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~wink/
               "You must live as you think,
       or sooner or later you will think as you live."

------------------------------

From: jeffw (Jeff Wasilko)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:52:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Apolgies (re: Java joe show postings)

I made a typo while approving some mail that came in during the
night, which resulted in multiple copies of multiple messages
being sent out....

Sorry for the inconvenience....I'll be sure I've had my caffiene
in the future (-:

- -Jeff

------------------------------

From: "jeffrey hanson" <jeffrey_hanson@NSDGATE3.nsd.fmc.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:59:16 cdt
Subject: Re: LTD: When I Was With You

>When I Was With You  by Jewel Kilcher and Joy Eden Harrison
Ahh, I'm beginning to see what happened on the Innerchange tapes.  This song was
written by Jewel and Steve Poltz--Jewel wrote the lyrics, but the music (melody)
was written by Steve for a song with different lyrics that appears on Morning 
Wood.  This was Jewel's response to that song, told from the female's point of 
view.

>Do you remember when we were younger, 
>all those crazy things that we used to do?
>You'd play my hips like drumsets
>and sing all your favorite Stevie Wonder tunes
>When I was with ya.

>Do you remember we did everything together?
>I'd share my otter pops with you.
>And we would sing in all the slimy slimy barrooms
>We'd watch for your cousin Ed on the evening news
>When I was with ya

>I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold
>And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old
>And I'd read you the classified ads in bed
>And you would point out all the miserable lives 
>that I could have had instead of being with you

>Could've been Whoopi Goldberg's breasts

>Do you remember when you wrote all those letters?
>Though I admit they were kind of sick
>But still I knew I was your honey sugar dumpling
>and just like a good line you'd alweys be there to lick
                      lime
>When I was with ya

>Do you remember when you took all those classes?
>All those crazy gadgets you would fix
>I hated how cluttered our apartment was
>I hated our landlord Harry, he was such a dick
>When I was with ya

>I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold
>And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old
>And I'd read you the classified ads in bed
>And you would point out all the miserable lives 
>that I could have had instead of being with you

>Could've been Richard Nixon's last pair of clean underwear ?????
  never could understand the rest of this line either--going down the river?

>Do you remember when we went to Mexico 
>and stayed in that cute little place
>We were honin' our fine love-makin' skills
>and you tattoed "I love you" on your face
>When I was with ya

>I still remember the last time that I saw you
>You left me with a hotdog in my hand
>Was it cause I didn't want a pickle or was it a pretty senorita
>Oh well, there was always stuff that I didn't understand
>When I was with ya

>I'd warm your tootsies up, they're always so cold
>And I'd fix you supper from leftovers two weeks old
>And I'd read you the classified ads in bed
>And you would point out all the miserable lives 
>that I could have had instead of being with you
>Being with you
>Being with you
- ----------------------x---------------------



     Tom   email: provent@pls.lib.ca.us

"You have a fire down in genius, subtlety
 And you slip through the fingers of ambiguity."

"You can always detect the breaking of a voice
Or you can always defect and walk away from the choice."




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From: Andrew Levstein <lev@idirect.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:00:00 -0400
Subject: Seattle tree BRANCH 2 - IMPORTANT!!

For all of you who are signed up to Branch 2 (that would be me, Andrew)
please note that Ken made a small but important typo in my e-mail address.
It currently reads:  lev@direct.com
It SHOULD read lev@idirect.com  (Idirect - short for Internet Direct, my ISP)

Pretty much everyone makes that mistake because the "i" is small, especially
next to the "@" sign.

Anyway, e-mail me to get the ball rolling on your tapes.

Cheers!

Andrew Levstein
lev@idirect.com


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From: Karl M Fields <kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:55:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment

On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Mike Connell wrote:

> Angels,
> 
> I am convinced, some poor sole on this list will have this experience 
> tonight. John (or Jane) Doe, a member of the list since day 2, went on 
> vacation to "anywhere" on Friday May 31st. June 1st Jewel gets nailed with a 
> frisbee and there's mega EMAILs on the list, June 4th she's on Leno, more 
> mega-EMAILs, the Hiranya Bombshell on Thursday night, more EMAILs. Mr. Doe 
> gets home tonight, fires up his Netscape for the first time in 11 days, and 
> sees...."receiving message 1 of 687" and instantly goes into cyber-shock.
> The horror....the horror.....

I just checked 172 messages in an hour, baby.  I also decided to drop
Physics II and take it next semester so I could better tend to my mail.  
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Karl M Fields
kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu


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From: Karl M Fields <kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:00:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Isn't that big yet," he says.

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Philip J. Kelnhofer wrote:

> I really don't think we should have to worry since Woodstock is far enough
> from even New York City a lot of people aren't  going to drive a couple
> hours just because Jewel is giving a show.  She isn't that big yet. 

A couple of hours from New York City!!?  I plan to drive about 20 hours
from Florida.  

Karl M Fields
kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu


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From: pjk@cybercom.net (Philip J. Kelnhofer)
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:09:00 -0400
Subject: New songs (was Re: Jessica--Petition from Fans)

>Ditto! In spades! :-) I want to hear what Jewel wants to do. I'm happiest
>with her music when I get something I didn't expect. Its more fun that

I totally agree with this.  While some (or many) of the songs on the next
album will ones we have heard, I don't want to get an album of songs that
are two years old.
This happened with the last Pearl Jam album. They had been playing all of
the songs on _Vitalogy_ so for long in concert by the time the album came
out many fans has heard the songs or had them on boots.
Don't get me wrong I will buy the new album no matter what's on it, but I
would love to be suprised with some new songs or new versions of old songs.

>Keep on Truckin' :-) (just sticking with the 60's theme of late :-) )
>
>James.

pjk

- --
"Proper treatment will cure a cold in seven days,
but left to itself a cold will hang on for about a week"
                                        - Henry G. Felsen



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From: MSiegel203@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:08:49 -0400
Subject: How can I....?

I want to be on this tree thing...I live in the DC area. (I dont know if that
matters or not.) I dont really have any stuff to offer like other recordings
but am interested in joining....

msiegel203@aol.com


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From: Karl M Fields <kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:06:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: I thought I was getting old.

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 Ddhaoc@aol.com wrote:
 
> * I have made a professional living doing hands-on commercial art, design and
> illustration since 1978.

Hell, I was only born at the end of November 1977.  How old are you
people?

Karl "With a dollar to spend on $.02 comments" Fields
kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu


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From: Karl M Fields <kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:18:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re Smoking : My Soapbox.

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, John wrote:

> Attention Jewel Mailing list type folks!        
> 
>         Did that work?  Just wanted to see...Anyway...I just got through
> reading the thread on Jewel and smoking and I'm wicked happy!  See...there
> are so few (dare I use the word) popular artists on the music scene who will
> admit to not smoking.  In particular I'm talking about weed.

You speak the truth, my friend.  Personally I don't see what is so
appealing about diverting a considerable portion of American capital from
the economic circular flow into the hands of two bit drug lords for an
altered state of mind.  Imagine if all that money was spent on Jewel CD's.

>          In my humble way, I just wanted to commend Jewel for not travelling
> that route that many people in the music industry are easily, and in some
> cases, tragically,  lead down. I now have another reason to respect Jewel.
> Oh..and  I heard she writes pretty good songs too.....KIDDING!!  Aint; she
> the greatest?

Once again, you speak the truth.  She is the greatest.

>         Oh well...I'll step down from the soapbox and let someone else get
> up here and flame me to the ends of the earth.  Thanks for listening. And
> remember, it's just my opinion....respect it and I'll respect yours.

If anyone doesn't respect your opinion, let me know.  I'll kick their
butt.

> "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
> 
> 		---Dante Hicks
 
This movie rules.

Karl "I love this place" Fields
kmf29184@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu


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From: Chopped Liver <watkins@selway.umt.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:42:22 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: I thought I was getting old.

On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Karl M Fields wrote:
> 
> Hell, I was only born at the end of November 1977.  How old are you
> people?

Someone did a survey of this list not long ago which included age.  Maybe 
they'd agree to post the results again.  You'll find that Jewel appeals 
to a wide range of people in almost every aspect (age, politics, 
religion, etc.)  I'm a 45 year old, ultra-liberal atheist. I've seen 
people as young as 15 here.  It's great, isn't it?

Chopped Liver (Charlie)
watkins@selway.umt.edu



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From: "jeffrey hanson" <jeffrey_hanson@NSDGATE3.nsd.fmc.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 10:38:12 cdt
Subject: Re[2]: Jessica--Petition from Fans

>On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Dan Stark wrote:
>> While I like this song too (it's actually my recording on Rare Angels), I'm
>> not sure I like the idea of petitioning Jewel to put it on the next CD.  In
>> fact, I'm sure that would be quite ineffective, since I think Jewel is
>> artisic enough to put what she believes is her best on her next album.  And
>> that's actually what I would like to hear from the CD anyway. We already
>> have a pretty good copy of Jessica on tape, and Jewel has already released
>> it in revised form as Emily so I think it's unlikely she'll be putting out
>> the Jessica version.

>On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, James McGarry wrote:
>Ditto! In spades! :-) I want to hear what Jewel wants to do. I'm happiest 
>with her music when I get something I didn't expect. Its more fun that 
>way and I trust Jewel to put only the very best stuff out on cd. And as 
>Dan says it _is_ on RA and out as _Emily_. And if you feel really 
>strongly about it, send her a letter, I'm sure she would be touched by 
>personal letters about one of her songs, regardless. :-)

I have to agree with both these guys.  I prefer Jewel do what she wants to do, 
and not be influenced by public opinion--even if that public is her loyal fan 
base.  I think Jewel succumbing to these types of public pressures is more a 
form of "selling out" than touring with a band or reworking songs in full 
arrangements, which some on this list seem to see as selling out. Also, for 
those people who think that Jewel playing anything but solo acoustic guitar is 
selling out, I heartily disagree.  I think Jewel's first album was primarily 
solo acoustic guitar only because that's what she had experience doing and what 
she could afford to do at the time.  SHe owned an acoustic guitar--so that's 
what she used.  She had a strong enough voice and guitar skills that the record 
company felt the songs could stand on their own without a lot of extra 
production--and it was much cheaper to produce the album without adding a lot of
studio musicians, etc.--thus keeping Jewel's indebtedness to Atlantic and 
Atlantic's own investment risk to a minimum.

Now that she has a successful album behind her, I expect Atlantic and Jewel 
herself to be more willing to invest in more studio time, hire studio musicians,
etc. Jewel now has much more experience working with other performers, and is 
beginning to broaden her vision as a songwriter--now being able to "see" full 
arrangements of songs where before this might not have even occurred to her as 
possible.

I certainly don't object to sending Jewel the petition, or having people sign 
it,  if they believe in it.  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I'm 
sure Jewel appreciates any input she receives from fans.  But I don't think its 
in the artist's best interests to become too concerned with what their fans 
think, nor do I feel its the role of fans to try to direct an artist's career.  
But then I don't even like it when people shout out  requests at 
concerts--unless of course the artist specifically asks for requests.  

Jeff Hanson



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