From: owner-jewel-digest To: jewel-digest@smoe.org Subject: jewel-digest V1 #261 Reply-To: jewel@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-jewel-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "jewel-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. jewel-digest Monday, 10 June 1996 Volume 01 : Number 261 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Some bad vibes [jewel] hi, i'm new!!! Possible media coverage for JewelStock Re: Some bad vibes re:Possible media coverage for JewelStock Re: MTV TIMES TO CALL! Re: Possible media coverage for JewelStock *** WANTED: Samplers and Promos *** The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment [none] Re: cassette label maker program? Re: The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment [jewel] i have a suggestion.... nothing much... dates the concert location... where??? Does Jewel Smoke? Charity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gregdunn@indy.net (Greg Dunn) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:48:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Some bad vibes >As I read about the preperations for jewelstock and the countless other >ventures regarding jewel from this list I can't help but stop and think >that there exist on this list quite a few people who really need to calm >down. Ok, so what am I refering to? Well the fact that some people here >on this list fancy themselves as the end all jewel fan. I sympathize with this and intend no criticisms; but please let's not forget that JEWEL agreed to do this specifically for her mailing list fans. Since she's decided it'll be free -- or a benefit -- we can hardly lobby her to expand the concert to others! I too will abide completely with her wishes, but she's at least partly trusting us to handle this without squabbling. "Everyday Angels" we must continue to try to be... She IS a national recording artist, and sooner or later she'll be in a venue where everyone can see her. Right now she wants this as a kind of impromptu, "thank you" present to her list supporters. Partly, I'm sure, because the limitations already imposed (out of necessity) will keep all but the most dedicated of her supporters from attending. This is going to happen because it's a very low-additional-stress thing for Jewel. She knows we'll be polite and respectful; she knows we'll give her space and not insist on a certain length or setlist; and she can relax a bit and concentrate on ALL of us enjoying ourselves. She does NOT need a full-blown trial-of-fire concert right in the middle of her already stressful recording session. To try to turn this into an "introduce-the-newbies" session doesn't seem to be what Jewel had in mind, either. I'm sure no one is trying to turn this into an "exclusion" event; in fact I suspect the small, "friends only" aspect of this is the major reason that Jewel is agreeing to break her schedule and treat us to the memory of a lifetime. I see this as no different from a family reunion where it would be counterproductive to invite, say, neighbors, co-workers, schoolmates, etc. Hiranya, please correct me if I'm wrong. Jewel, thank you. - -- | Greg Dunn | "Information is not knowledge; | | GregDunn@aol.com | knowledge is not wisdom; | | gregdunn@indy.net | wisdom is not truth." | | Greg@gdunn.nawc-ad-indy.navy.mil | -- Frank Zappa | ------------------------------ From: kaps@kktv.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:49:26 -0500 Subject: [jewel] hi, i'm new!!! hi pplz i'm kaps, i love jewel and alanis and i want a bootleg tape ofthe innerchange sessions, would someone help me out here, eh? - -- kaps in rainy NYC kaps' jewel song of the moment: "race care driver" ------------------------------ From: Andrew Levstein Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 18:19:02 -0400 Subject: Possible media coverage for JewelStock Before anyone tries to flame me, please realize that I fully intend to respect the secrecy of this concert, and I fully agree with limiting it to list members and a couple of guests. That being said... I have a loose connection to the Pop/Rock columnist of the Toronto Star (Peter Howell). IF everyone agreed, I could tip him off about the concert, so that he could write about it in his "Cyberpop" column (On Mondays, he writes a column about music news/events on the internet - this would definately qualify!) Since we don't want the public descending on Woodstock the day of the concert, I could tell him only a day or two before the event. (Assuming the concert is on a Thursday, it wouldn't be covered in the newspaper, until the following Monday, ensuring that only invitees and their guests know about it.) It might be pretty cool for our little endevour to get some coverage, to show the world what a few dedicated fans can put together in a short time, and also to show how caring an artist Jewel is, for recognizing and wanting to thank her internet fans. As I said before, I have NO intention of telling him anything unless I get overwhelming group approval. Just as a side note, Peter Howell is also a correspondant for Addicted To Noise (The online music info website). This is just an early post, to get an idea of what people think. Feel free to post your opinion, or e-mail me privately. Thanks Andrew Levstein lev@idirect.com ------------------------------ From: "James H. Judd" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:28:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Some bad vibes Hello, I don't claim to be a huge Jewel fan- i considered not going to the concert. I merely begged that people don't bring 10 others who don't yet appreciate Jewel (as one lister said he was planning). In Atlanta the crowd was what i would consider good- there was some showboating in the audience and a drunk or two but most of the rest of the floor audience was attentive with only the occasional cry for yodeling. If such an auidience was at JewelStock, i would be disapointed. In addition up behind me were some people who were there who hadn't heard of Jewel before or didn't respect her and disrupted my listening experience. I am but one little lister, and my voice is equal to yours. I'm sorry if i sound like i think otherwise. There are many people whom i respect much more than myself on this list. The last thing i want to sound is prideful. > ...people who really need to calm > down. Ok, so what am I refering to? Well the fact that some people here > on this list fancy themselves as the end all jewel fan. Like the whole > idea on 'Rare Angels' being a list only venture, or asking people to only > bring one person to JewelStock (Because then there would be too many > people there and whoever would come that is a jewel Newbie woould talk > and my oh my how it is such a terrible thing for someone to talk during a > show). ... > (as in the case of James' post about > limiting numbers at the show and newbies wanting Jewel to Yodel). Or even > worse you are going to have people > that, while actually believing in what they are trying to help There are plenty of opportunities to get exposure to Jewel other than this concert. I always try to introduce people, and want to help her popularity. It's the nature of this concert that makes it different- maybe you don't remember duff's original intentions. (she started the idea) Again, i'm sorry everyone for any "hogging" of the list i've done. James _________________________________________________________________________ Auburn University Eng. Network Services Web/Lab Guy Computer Science Grad Student http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~juddjam ------------------------------ From: kaps@kktv.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:25:46 -0500 Subject: re:Possible media coverage for JewelStock all right i've had it thats enough confuzzion for da kaps today.....what the HELL is JewelStock? When and where is it? Can somebody fly me out so I can go!??!?!?!!?!?!??!??! - -- kaps kaps jewel song of gthe moment: "ywmfm" ------------------------------ From: "Brett M. Eskin" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:34:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MTV TIMES TO CALL! MTV does not take requests into account when they do the Top 20. - --Brett On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Will Chinda wrote: > OK, if everyone on this list call 1-800-DIAL-MTV as many times as possible > during the next week and requests "You Were Meant For Me" we may be able to > get it on the top 20. Next week we'll see if we can get WWSYS into no. 1. > Anyone going nuts planning Jewelstock shouldn't waste time by doing this. > I'll try and see which are the best times to get through. > > Will C. (will81) > > "If I die before I learn to speak, > Will money pay for all the days > I lived awake but half asleep?" > > -Primitive Radio Gods > ------------------------------ From: "Brett M. Eskin" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Possible media coverage for JewelStock Here is one vote against media coverage. Someone will find out without our telling. That's just what we need,. 1000 people that can't get in waiting outside. Please just keep this simple. Please, everyone, don't ruin it. - --BRett On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Andrew Levstein wrote: > Before anyone tries to flame me, please realize that I fully intend to > respect the secrecy of this concert, and I fully agree with limiting it to > list members and a couple of guests. That being said... > I have a loose connection to the Pop/Rock columnist of the Toronto Star > (Peter Howell). IF everyone agreed, I could tip him off about the concert, > so that he could write about it in his "Cyberpop" column (On Mondays, he > writes a column about music news/events on the internet - this would > definately qualify!) > Since we don't want the public descending on Woodstock the day of the > concert, I could tell him only a day or two before the event. (Assuming the > concert is on a Thursday, it wouldn't be covered in the newspaper, until the > following Monday, ensuring that only invitees and their guests know about it.) > It might be pretty cool for our little endevour to get some coverage, to > show the world what a few dedicated fans can put together in a short time, > and also to show how caring an artist Jewel is, for recognizing and wanting > to thank her internet fans. As I said before, I have NO intention of > telling him anything unless I get overwhelming group approval. > Just as a side note, Peter Howell is also a correspondant for Addicted To > Noise (The online music info website). > > This is just an early post, to get an idea of what people think. Feel free > to post your opinion, or e-mail me privately. > > Thanks > > Andrew Levstein > lev@idirect.com > ------------------------------ From: mooncricket@juno.com (Melanie M. Evans) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:58:55 PST Subject: *** WANTED: Samplers and Promos *** Does anyone happen to have any of the promos and samplers that Atlantic distributed such as Save the Linoleum or Phyllis Barnaby Gets a Bra, etc, etc. etc. I'm looking for all the Jewel I can get my hands on. All replies appreciated. ------------------------------ From: Mike Connell Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 20:05:23 -0400 Subject: The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment Angels, I am convinced, some poor sole on this list will have this experience tonight. John (or Jane) Doe, a member of the list since day 2, went on vacation to "anywhere" on Friday May 31st. June 1st Jewel gets nailed with a frisbee and there's mega EMAILs on the list, June 4th she's on Leno, more mega-EMAILs, the Hiranya Bombshell on Thursday night, more EMAILs. Mr. Doe gets home tonight, fires up his Netscape for the first time in 11 days, and sees...."receiving message 1 of 687" and instantly goes into cyber-shock. The horror....the horror..... Mike Connell - -- __ __ ____ _ _ ____ ( \/ )(_ _)( )/ )( ___) ) ( _)(_ ) ( )__) (_/\/\_)(____)(_)\_)(____) ------------------------------ From: schoon@thor.pla-net.net Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 19:12:31 -0500 Subject: [none] Everybody just chill out a little. Stop flaming people's suggestions, cause you'll get flamed later by someone else. I just read an attack on someone and three (maybe four others nailed him). Come on, we're all friends here. We share a common goal, and that is JewelStock. Hiryana knows a lot more about what's going on then any of us. Let's not step on her toes everytime she posts more info. Don't take the next step until Hiryana gets us more. what we need to be able to do now is say: "Okay, the list has suggested July X (Whatever we vote for). Is that okay with Jewel and the venue you have chosen?" Just don't go to Hiryana and say, "This is the date we want!" (too demanding) Everybody vote if you want to have a say on the date. All you have to do is e-mail Akira. If you don't like him being in charge, by voting (participating) he isn't in control and just represents us. Thanks for your time, Mikey ------------------------------ From: gwarder@icis.on.ca (Geoff Warder) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:31:45 -0500 Subject: Re: cassette label maker program? You can try Avery's Label Maker Pro. It's available for Macintosh and IBM. You can even then use the Avery pre-cut cassette labels (or any other brand that uses the same dimensions) and it makes all of your labels quick and easy. The software comes with templates for audio cassette labels, video tape labels, envelope labels and a bunch of address labels. Geoff Warder gwarder@icis.on.ca =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Quote of the day: "Quiet Pinky, or I shall have to hurt you." - The Brain =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: "Robert W. Campbell" Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 20:30:54 -0700 Subject: Re: The Mega-EMAIL Bombardment I don't claim to have been here since day one, but I did get this shock when I wen to DC for the week (Last saturday for the Stand for Children and hopes to see Jewel until Saturday the 8th). About 700 messages is exactly what I received. It took me a few hours to go through them all. I'm happy that Jewel is catching on nationally though, and hope it continues for her as long as she wants. ROB. Mike Connell wrote: > > Angels, > > I am convinced, some poor sole on this list will have this experience > tonight. John (or Jane) Doe, a member of the list since day 2, went on > vacation to "anywhere" on Friday May 31st.June 1st Jewel gets nailed with a > frisbee and there's mega EMAILs on the list, June 4th she's on Leno, more > mega-EMAILs, the Hiranya Bombshell on Thursday night, more EMAILs. Mr. Doe > gets home tonight, fires up his Netscape for the first time in 11 days, and > sees...."receiving message 1 of 687" and instantly goes into cyber-shock. > The horror....the horror..... ------------------------------ From: kaps@kktv.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:47:24 -0500 Subject: [jewel] i have a suggestion.... hi guys......uh, i'm on the alanis list as well, and the MJIFC, and it gets hard, when there is only one list I'm on that doesn't have a header to discriminate what is a personal mail and what is an 'Everyday Angels' mail. could we all start putting [jewel] or [angels[ or something like that in front of the subject? thanx - -- kaps jewel quote of the moment: 'i'm not enchanted by "the biz", I like to be around things that remind me of home, and I'm not dazed by this "fame" that i'm apparently enjoying." ------------------------------ From: Akira Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:15:43 -0400 Subject: nothing much... Angels... I'm just writing to see if my email postings are getting better. Some of you ssaid that my computer was messed up.... = signs and such appeared at random.... I hope i fixed it by now.... Anyway.. Just wanted to write something on the list besides Jewelstock. It has gotten way too much hype, and out of hand than i would have thought. Let's be angels together... and stop bickering among ourselves. Constructive suggestions are good, put downs suck.... I mean Jewel might be watching right now... and think..... remember:" Maybe if we were surrounded in beauty, someday we would become what we see. Anyone can start a conflict, its harder yet to disregard it. I'd rather see the world from another angle, we are everyday angels, be careful with me, cause i like to stay that way." ~Jewel Peace ------------------------------ From: Luis Araujo Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 22:23:55 -0400 Subject: dates I'd like to beg and grovel for a friday date. It is hard for some of us to get a couple of days off. Actually, my co-driver can't take 2 days off either. I guess in this case 2 dats sure would be nice! Regards ------------------------------ From: Truna@aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:47:18 -0400 Subject: the concert location... where??? ummmm, is there gonna be that jewel concert nearnyc... oh yeah, i know this is stupid, but where's woodstock gobnna be held? ------------------------------ From: pjk@cybercom.net (Philip J. Kelnhofer) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:30:32 -0400 Subject: Does Jewel Smoke? That's right it's a post not about the concert, T-shirts, or bootlegs. After hearing it several times (once live the others on tape) I noticed that at the Boston show (5/18/96) she specifically said that she didn't smoke. On one of the boots I have she said the federalies (sp?) ask her if she smoked and she said yes. Hmm... a little inconsitent. What does everyone think. pjk ------------------------------ From: jeffpete@primenet.com (jeffrey peterson) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:01:38 -0700 (MST) Subject: Charity Hi everyone, I know we are all getting bombarded with mail and I'm sorry to add to the pile, but thats what we're here for right? :) Hiranya's suggestion of a benefit show is a great one. I used to live in Alaska as well and I shiver everytime I see the damage the fires have done, and are still doing. I wouldn't mind giving money at the door for this cause. Maybe if we approached it from this angle we could get a venue for a lower cost, and maybe even free. I also wouldn't mind paying extra for tshirts if we said profits would go to the charity that we choose. One thing that is starting to concern me, it is going to be very, very hard to keep this thing a secret, especially once a venue has been decided on. I imagine Akira and gang are trying not to give too many specifics to the "outsiders" they are dealing with. I can just hear advertising... "Jewel will be playing a benefit show at Woodstock, come see this great performer and help raise money for a good cause." All the sudden instead of an intimate group of a few hundred there are 50,000 people expecting another Woodtsock.... Just a bad thought..... Take care everyone, Jeff ------------------------------ End of jewel-digest V1 #261 ***************************